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Old March 11th, 2010, 06:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just like the title says. Do any of you regret using the leaked version of 2.1? If so, why?

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Not in a million years. Best thing I've done to the phone so far. Can't wait for root though!
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Ditto. Ditto. Ditto.
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I actually only had 1.5 for for about 1 week before the 2.1 leak came out. During that week, I was just adding apps and messing around with whatever I could. I personally don't really notice a big difference. Cept for the phone lag is gone now. I suppose I don't regret switching, even thought I don't remember 1.5 very well.
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I actually only had 1.5 for for about 1 week before the 2.1 leak came out. During that week, I was just adding apps and messing around with whatever I could. I personally don't really notice a big difference. Cept for the phone lag is gone now. I suppose I don't regret switching, even thought I don't remember 1.5 very well.
make a long story short. he doesn't regret switching to 2.1


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I do. The phone messes up when I need it the most. Too many bugs for it to be functional. Far too many crashes and stalls. Too many restarts to fix an issue that never had a problem with before. I think it's a leak, and I'm paying for updating it now. The OTA will be a relief for me, as my phone will finally operate normally. I can see why it's a tester's build. Not stable nor is it able to be a permanent solution.

Overall the features are cool and the phone is snappier as well as utilizing RAM and processes efficiently. So, I say 2.1 is a vast improvement from 1.5 but as it is the tester's build, not gonna make any definite statements until I see final OTA. I don't want to see the same issues with final as I'm seeing now or I'm selling this piece to the dev's and getting something else.
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I do. The phone messes up when I need it the most. Too many bugs for it to be functional. Far too many crashes and stalls. Too many restarts to fix an issue that never had a problem with before. I think it's a leak, and I'm paying for updating it now. The OTA will be a relief for me, as my phone will finally operate normally. I can see why it's a tester's build. Not stable nor is it able to be a permanent solution.

Overall the features are cool and the phone is snappier as well as utilizing RAM and processes efficiently. So, I say 2.1 is a vast improvement from 1.5 but as it is the tester's build, not gonna make any definite statements until I see final OTA. I don't want to see the same issues with final as I'm seeing now or I'm selling this piece to the dev's and getting something else.
Just when I am about to leave work and go home and make my phone 2.1 I read this and then it makes me think... ehh maybe i should wait? But if i wait and in 2months still no update and others are saying 2.1 is close to flawless why not go to 2.1? Or what happens if 2.1 OTA update never comes out and or it has the same file name and we can't recieve the OTA update? Ughh the suspense is killing me. (i'll prob. go home tonight and jump to 2.1 anyways. lol)
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Not in a million years. Best thing I've done to the phone so far. Can't wait for root though!
What about the tester's build do you find better that makes your phone the best thing you've done so far?
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I would love to upgrade to 2.1, but after reading some reviews, I couldn't stand to lose a bar or two of signal. Well, my battery couldn't stand to lose it anyway.

I would love to make the phone snappier, but I'm not sure the trade offs are worth it right now.
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Just when I am about to leave work and go home and make my phone 2.1 I read this and then it makes me think... ehh maybe i should wait? But if i wait and in 2months still no update and others are saying 2.1 is close to flawless why not go to 2.1? Or what happens if 2.1 OTA update never comes out and or it has the same file name and we can't recieve the OTA update? Ughh the suspense is killing me. (i'll prob. go home tonight and jump to 2.1 anyways. lol)
It's not flawless, and anyone who tells you that is a fanboy and not looking out for your best interests, nor are they helping the community with unbiased opinions. Whoopeeee!!! the best thing ever made!!! OMG

It's crap to do that. Anyway, wait for it. It's ok but not what the experience should be. Hang it out until 2.1 OTA. My honest opinion. Its not worth messing with your phone or experience to update with a questionable build of 2.1.
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I would love to upgrade to 2.1, but after reading some reviews, I couldn't stand to lose a bar or two of signal. Well, my battery couldn't stand to lose it anyway.

I would love to make the phone snappier, but I'm not sure the trade offs are worth it right now.
Yeah, that's another thing that bothers me but it hasn't made the signal any worse. So I would say it's not calibrated to show true signal strength.
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I'd recommend everyone who can't decide if they want to switch or stay; to keep 1.5 until all the bugs are worked out of 2.1. The bugs will end up making you upset about the upgrade and regret it your choice. But for those who are gung-ho about 2.1, run over to my 2.1 Tutorial or click the link on my Signature and upgrade! Let us know how it goes.
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It's not flawless, and anyone who tells you that is a fanboy and not looking out for your best interests, nor are they helping the community with unbiased opinions. Whoopeeee!!! the best thing ever made!!! OMG

It's crap to do that. Anyway, wait for it. It's ok but not what the experience should be. Hang it out until 2.1 OTA. My honest opinion. Its not worth messing with your phone or experience to update with a questionable build of 2.1.
What happens if 2.1 OTA update never comes or it's 2.0 or something instead of 2.1?

Or if I did go to 2.1 and only 2.0 update came out or 2.1 with the same file name. That would stink as well. However, seeing the youtube video's and stuff make me want to switch to 2.1 just because I personally think 1.5 isn't even flawless and freezes up a lot and during calls. Only thing that would make me not want 2.1 is if my signal goes to crap since at work I am already at zero bars or no service and parts of the building at 1 bar.
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Speed. Zero crashes. Everything but one app I had on 1.5 works. (Calorie Counter) I love all the little tweaks to the UI that they made, like the Settings list, it just looks cleaner. All in all, I'm very glad I upgraded, and am looking forward to the official OTA update to fix the sign in issue.
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I'd recommend everyone who can't decide if they want to switch or stay; to keep 1.5 until all the bugs are worked out of 2.1. The bugs will end up making you upset about the upgrade and regret it your choice. But for those who are gung-ho about 2.1, run over to my 2.1 Tutorial or click the link on my Signature and upgrade! Let us know how it goes.
I'm about to update to 2.1 Just going to read everything in caddyman's post about all the bug's. Chances are half the bugs might not even affect me. The ones on the first page that he listed honestly wouldn't even bother me so why not go to 2.1? I am going to read all the pages and double check but if everything works better and it's just certain app's or random things that are small chances are all around 2.1 would be better than 1.5

At least I personally think 1.5 is laggy and anoying in calls sometimes and has a lot of other problems knowing it's an offical update.
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Speed. Zero crashes. Everything but one app I had on 1.5 works. (Calorie Counter) I love all the little tweaks to the UI that they made, like the Settings list, it just looks cleaner. All in all, I'm very glad I upgraded, and am looking forward to the official OTA update to fix the sign in issue.
Sign in issue only happens when you start the phone right? So if you leave your phone on all the time you don't have to worry about it.
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Yeah, that's another thing that bothers me but it hasn't made the signal any worse. So I would say it's not calibrated to show true signal strength.
+1 on that. I've used my phone in BFE Kansas that most phone's don't get good signal and I get perfect signal. I'm no fanboy by any means, but I do like 2.1 over 1.5. I can live with the issues, which for me, aren't that bad.
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Sign in issue only happens when you start the phone right? So if you leave your phone on all the time you don't have to worry about it.
Yup, never have a problem otherwise. Knock on wood...
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I love that I upgraded to 2.1! We just got back from a vacation to Florida where the Nav/search features were very handy. Phone doesn't lag as much with the messaging app, facebook contact sync(as in adding phone numbers from facebook to my contacts) YouTube works GREAT! The gmail login is a bit of a hassle and I have noticed a slight decrease in battery(which I'm sure with a few more setting tweaks I can make go away) Besides the leaked version doesn't void the warranty. If it changes something you don't like you could have VZW replace it for you and get a fresh start with 1.5. Its a no lose situation really.
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I put my thoughts in. Believe what you will. I would like to see how. Your update went if do it.
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i've been happy with everything except the fact that i can't make calls about 50% of the time. but i had issues before i updated. i couldn't make calls like 25% of the time. so it's gotten worse and it was bad before. probably my phone. i've just been putting off going into verizon and getting a replacement. i don't want a refurb. anyway, the problem is that either i can't hear the caller or they can't hear me about 50% of the time. and occasionally a call will come in and the ringer won't work. but it's the audio that is the problem.
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I've had issue with people not hearing me, but not with calls not connecting. I honestly haven't made many calls since the update as we've been on vacation so i can't tell if its better or worse. I know what you mean about not wanting a refurb. But if this update caused a problem that I couldn't live with I think I would have to bite the bullet.
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I agree as well. Since i beat my Eris into submission and forced 2.1 down it's body, I’ve not been making many calls or using the phone much at all actually. But of course, past all of the technology and cool features, it's still a phone; so hopefully Google and HTC can make the calling a priority to make it bigger and better than before.
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Lots of good feedback. Thanks guys. This thread helped me make up my mind and I'm waiting for the OTA. Definitely not the decision I wanted to make but trying to be smart about it.
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I love that I upgraded to 2.1! We just got back from a vacation to Florida where the Nav/search features were very handy. Phone doesn't lag as much with the messaging app, facebook contact sync(as in adding phone numbers from facebook to my contacts) YouTube works GREAT! The gmail login is a bit of a hassle and I have noticed a slight decrease in battery(which I'm sure with a few more setting tweaks I can make go away) Besides the leaked version doesn't void the warranty. If it changes something you don't like you could have VZW replace it for you and get a fresh start with 1.5. Its a no lose situation really.
Wow you make it sound so good minus [all the little side issues].

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I've had issue with people not hearing me, but not with calls not connecting. I honestly haven't made many calls since the update as we've been on vacation so i can't tell if its better or worse. I know what you mean about not wanting a refurb. But if this update caused a problem that I couldn't live with I think I would have to bite the bullet.
Wait, you haven't really tested it? How can you make all those statements in favor?

I think people are on a cloud 9 and fail to see the technical issues of the build because they're blinded by having 2.1...yeah Youtube works now but how about other things.

Teeter-todder statements. Contradicting.
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I have to say I don't regret it at all, I have the bugs on the first page of caddy's thread and that's it. I did also upgrade my buddys phone from the same build off my computer, he has way more. Every one of his is from an app, he is a fiend with them. I know this because every few days he has a new problem and I fix it. I went from a razor to eris in November and haven't looked back. All the info I have is from the forums here. So thanks to Caddy,Otd and all the other usual posters for all the help.


edit: Just to be clear I'm not saying everyone should do it, but if you can deal with a few bumps and don't care about trading out a few apps and or inconveniences then do it. If you like the way your phone is don't. I like having a lot less lag, but I miss a few apps and my signal is down a bar(has not made any difference in calls for me anyway). If it turned out upgrading made it impossible to get the OTA I would learn to work with root. Do what you want it's your phone enjoy it whichever way!
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Wow you make it sound so good minus [all the little side issues].



Wait, you haven't really tested it? How can you make all those statements in favor?

I think people are on a cloud 9 and fail to see the technical issues of the build because they're blinded by having 2.1...yeah Youtube works now but how about other things.

Teeter-todder statements. Contradicting.
We get it!! You don't like the 2.1 upgrade you did. Enough already, please....
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Wouldn't go back even if I could.
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We get it!! You don't like the 2.1 upgrade you did. Enough already, please....
Let me be clear, if you don't get it... :P

Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say I don't like the 2.1 upgrade I did...I did a fine job of updating it...thank you. I regret doing it after the fact out of functionality's sake.

I like 2.1 and can't wait for the actual, "bug free," OTA. Don't interject unless you have something constructive to say.
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Ain't that the truth.
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Wow you make it sound so good minus [all the little side issues].



Wait, you haven't really tested it? How can you make all those statements in favor?

I think people are on a cloud 9 and fail to see the technical issues of the build because they're blinded by having 2.1...yeah Youtube works now but how about other things.

Teeter-todder statements. Contradicting.
I haven't tested the CALL features of the phone as I've been on vacation. I've tested everything else I use on a daily basis. Nav works great, email works good for me minus the login issue. sms works great, menus are snappier, all apps I have run smoothly. The only person I talk to on the phone on a regular basis is my wife, and as we were on the beach together all this past week I haven't really talked to anyone on the phone.
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I guess I'm happy about the upgrade. The only Apps I really miss using on a dalily basis is using the Bank of America App...of course I can just use the web browser and I also miss the other Apps that require to use the browser and then you get that error message. Other than that, I guess I'm happy with the 2.1 upgrade. I am just hoping the OTA comes out soon. And for those that are worried, won't HTC have the software available for a PC to Phone download anyway?
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It's not perfect but I love it and wouldn't want to give it up.
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I don't regret it at all. Much happier with my phone. I was in the verge of selling it and going to the Moto Droid before I installed 2.1. Does anyone think the variations in problems from 2.1 might depend on which mirror you downloaded it from. I personally have not had ANY issues with 2.1.
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I like the new features, but the crashes get pretty annoying (text input panel just crashed a few secs ago). If you're doing anything critical with your phone, stick with 1.5. Speed seems about the same.
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I am glad I switched to 2.1. I think the 1.5 had bigger issues for being a final release. I can work around the minor flaws in 2.1
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My phone rocks now. The only thing bothering me is my inability to sync facebook contacts. Other than that, boosh.
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ugh it's like when i upgraded to 2.1 it was too buggy
but after getting a new eris and back to 1.5 it's laggy

Buggy & Speed Vs Lag & Stability...lol
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Nope -- works great. Other than having to relogin to Gmail every reboot, runs everything better than 1.5 -- esp battery life.
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....only had it on the phone for less than 24 hours though. Only problem would be having to log into gmail when the phone restarts that's it. Other than that the phone is a lot quicker. I would think the battery life would be worse because it dropped a little faster than I would of thought after un-plugging it but then again it's probably because I am using the phone more. However, the phone is a lot more snappy. I read through all 20pages of the bugs and everything else about 2.1 so I highly doubt I will get force closes as I already know what to stay away from or what to avoid.

*no regret so far
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I regret updating due to my pictures not showing up in gmail, the browser crashing randomly, losing all sound when making some phone calls, and a host of other issues. That being said, I do love some aspects of the leak. The speed is awesome, navigation is amazing....and I like being able to use the new market. It's a mixed bag...but I feel the things I lost were used more valuable to me than what I gained.

If the OTA fixes my bugs, I'll be in Heaven.
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No, I do not regret it. However, I am annoyed by these few issues...

  • Phone vibrates when making a call
  • Facebook photos on linked contacts are low-res
  • Need to re-login to google account each time I reboot
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+1 on that. I've used my phone in BFE Kansas that most phone's don't get good signal and I get perfect signal. I'm no fanboy by any means, but I do like 2.1 over 1.5. I can live with the issues, which for me, aren't that bad.
I used to live in BFE Kansas. Out along the blue river outside Marysville.
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I don't regret it. It's less buggy than 1.5 in my opinion (especially the version we had prior to MR1), and it solves a lot of issues I had with that.

I'm still having some issues with this, but the pros far outweigh the cons.

That being said, I'm actually re-flashing right now, but that's mostly because I'm trying to troubleshoot the embedded-images-in-gmail problem.
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My only gripe is the dialer is buggy now. And it freezes my phone at times. But i won;t look back. The feel is just so much better now.
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I am happy with the 2.1 now on my phone too. Only had 1.5 for about a week, so I guess I have nothing to feel sorry from not having it. My wife on the other hand has not been as thrilled with me putting 2.1 on hers. She has now had the phone glitch (not making a sound) 3 times since I did it. She calls or gets a call and nothing for sound. Call does connect, but neither side hears anything. She has never used headphones or connected a bluetooth either on her phone, so it isn't that for her. She blames me and I know from searching that this seems to be a big problem for a long time before 2.1 and still nothing to fix it except shutting the phone off. Really annoying her now.

But she will be happy soon, I hope. Hurry OTA for her at least.
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no regrets at all. would do it all over again in a heartbeat.
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