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Old May 25th, 2011, 10:26 PM   #51 (permalink)
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quick question - enable or disable always on mobile data? have people here who are seeing such good battery life left it on or is it off?

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Angry Display eating battery?

My new HTC DINC 2 doesn't seem to hold a charge longer than a day, with only minimal use. If I use the Internet or play games it runs down faster. I have checked the battery usage and the Display seems to be the biggest user -- currently it is using 86% of the battery, and I have it set really low, at the far left end of the scale. It is so low I can barely see the screen! But this does not seem to have any effect on the battery usage. Any ideas?
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My new HTC DINC 2 doesn't seem to hold a charge longer than a day, with only minimal use. If I use the Internet or play games it runs down faster. I have checked the battery usage and the Display seems to be the biggest user -- currently it is using 86% of the battery, and I have it set really low, at the far left end of the scale. It is so low I can barely see the screen! But this does not seem to have any effect on the battery usage. Any ideas?

What is your screen timeout set to?
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quick question - enable or disable always on mobile data? have people here who are seeing such good battery life left it on or is it off?
My always on mobile is turned off. It's the first thing I did when I got mine. I think it turns the radios off when the phone is asleep. I can wait until I wake up to sync my information.
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One thing you all have to keep in mind is that the percentages you see in the battery usage menu isn't the percentage of the total battery capacity used, it's the percentage of what's used up the battery so far. So no matter what, all the percentages have to add up to ~100%. Usually the display is what takes up half/most of the battery unless you use a data intensive app (such as a audio/video streaming app) with the screen off a lot. So don't fret if you see that the display is taking up 80%+ of your battery, that just means that no other apps have really been running to use it up or that you've actually had the screen on for a while doing other things.
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Thanks T4rd! Today, after several days in the 80 percent range, it is down below 50% all say so far! Maybe it got afraid I was going to take it back to Verizon?
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My screen time-out is set to 2 minutes.
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mountaineerdixie -- how do you disable always on mobile data?
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Default 14 hours of light/moderate use and out - not impressed

I just got this phone couple of days ago after dumping the droid 2 global cos of its lousy bttery. Today was first full day of normal use - not really impressed. After 14 hours I am almost out of juice completely. Didn't have any widgets or WiFi/GPS/bluetooth on at all. Brightness is at auto. Stuff I did - checked BBC, played Sudoku for 10-15 mins, browsed a bit and 5-6 emails.
Here's the detailed consumption break:

14h 0 m 3s since unplugged
Display: 68%
(2hr 25m on)
Cell Standby: 13%
(14h: time without Signal 12%)
Voice Calls: 8%
(10 m)
Phone Idle: 5%
(11h 35m)
Android System: 4%
Plugin Sample: 2%


The last two-I don't really understand - but they dont seem to be the offenders.
What peeves me is that based on these numbers - it seems I have a talk time of max 125 mins (I am in New York - so the reception is decent except when in subway)- the phone is rated for something ridiculous like 6hrs +. The total display on time
is little over 3.5 hrs!

Want to know if people are getting similar use out of their battery or somethings is wrong with mine.
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I too am having this problem. I will try doing the block buster deal cuz my battery life is in the can and i just bought the phone. Will report
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2hrs unplugged and I'm down to 79%. It is my second day of use so far. I do not have that PVMtpServiceStart thing running that some other people have been describing.
How is everybody getting the screen shots? I saw something about SDKandroid and hooking it up to a laptop?
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I too am having this problem. I will try doing the block buster deal cuz my battery life is in the can and i just bought the phone. Will report
I had to updated the blockbuster app and then that pmtwhatever service quit chewing through the battery. No I can make it a full day with phones calls, push corporate email and yahoo polling every 15 mins. I'm light on apps though. Mostly just use the browser throughout the day.

One other thing you may want to confirm with Verizon level 2 tech support is that your CDMA programming is correct. Mine was not and my home tower was set incorrectly. They had me manually change and the phone has performed better ever since then.
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I had to updated the blockbuster app and then that pmtwhatever service quit chewing through the battery. No I can make it a full day with phones calls, push corporate email and yahoo polling every 15 mins. I'm light on apps though. Mostly just use the browser throughout the day.

One other thing you may want to confirm with Verizon level 2 tech support is that your CDMA programming is correct. Mine was not and my home tower was set incorrectly. They had me manually change and the phone has performed better ever since then.
i downloaded the blockbuster app which i assume updated the version of the already installed blockbuster app that's causing the "pmtwhatever" to overload the system. it did nothing. I tried to go into the app and update it there, but it still did nothing.
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Do you see "pmtwhatever" running under whats using the battery?
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Ugh. My battery life still blows, contemplating a factory reset as a few people have reported better battery life after. Has anybody else done this?
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Ugh. My battery life still blows, contemplating a factory reset as a few people have reported better battery life after. Has anybody else done this?

Well I did the factory reset and battery life still sucks - guess I'll just have to leave chargers and cables in every car and at work. :-/
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When you have a wireless signal available for data, use that instead and turn mobile networking OFF, That is a HUGE battery saver!
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When you have a wireless signal available for data, use that instead and turn mobile networking OFF, That is a HUGE battery saver!

I've been doing that since day 1. Any other tips?
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Things have been solid for me still, I am going to try the phone with always on mobile data turned off, and see. I have been in the 15-18 hour range.

Cheers to everyone for the tips!
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Things have been solid for me still, I am going to try the phone with always on mobile data turned off, and see. I have been in the 15-18 hour range.

Cheers to everyone for the tips!

What all have you done to be able to get that and how heavy a user are you?
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OK, I have always on background data off. I am still not entirely sure of what that does, but it seems to help with the battery and makes no difference to me.

Data off when not in use (switch widget pro), which makes a huge difference. So easy to flick the widget on and check it as compulsively as you like.

When using phone indoors I use a low brightness setting, when outdoors I crank it up, but really try to turn it back down.

Always go wifi when available (training myself for the one day when Verizon finds some way to **** me and un-grandfather me), but this does help.

I am not using a task killer, the phandroid video was pretty interesting and worth checking out.

I use the phone a lot, email and twitter especially. I will say that I update via text message when not uploading a photo (and without turning data on).

I think the key is using your 3g sparingly, not because you need to, but because you can. This thing has a b/g/n wifi card, which is impressive for a phone. It's really a best practice to funnel as much of your data use through that as possible. It is faster and less battery taxing.

Other than that, I don't think I am doing anything special.
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A factory reset does help. I had to do it twice before seeing an improvement though
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I realize that I AM doing something different, I am bump charging. I charge the phone overnight powered off, do a quick boot (the phone wakes at 95-96% charged), turn it off again and it charges for another 30 min or so.

Doing that gets me an extra couple of hours on standby (cell only, no data, no use) easy.

How do you take a screenshot of your phone to show off battery use statistics?
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I realize that I AM doing something different, I am bump charging. I charge the phone overnight powered off, do a quick boot (the phone wakes at 95-96% charged), turn it off again and it charges for another 30 min or so.

Doing that gets me an extra couple of hours on standby (cell only, no data, no use) easy.

How do you take a screenshot of your phone to show off battery use statistics?
screenshot only with root. sounds like there is a way to do it by connecting your phone to the computer... but once you do that, battery stats might change... you might have a quick second to snap it though... maybe check on google or someone
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I've curiously read this thread and something has me wondering. With all the screen shots of battery usage none shows dialer using any battery? Mine always shows dialer using my battery. Not a lot but 5 or 6%. Why is this?
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I've curiously read this thread and something has me wondering. With all the screen shots of battery usage none shows dialer using any battery? Mine always shows dialer using my battery. Not a lot but 5 or 6%. Why is this?
your making phone calls while everyone else isn't?
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I've curiously read this thread and something has me wondering. With all the screen shots of battery usage none shows dialer using any battery? Mine always shows dialer using my battery. Not a lot but 5 or 6%. Why is this?
Good question. The short answer is I had just gotten the phone hours before and had yet to make any phone calls at the time I took the screen shots.
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Good question. The short answer is I had just gotten the phone hours before and had yet to make any phone calls at the time I took the screen shots.
And now does your phone show dialer as using battery?
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Yes, it does.
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got it, nevermind
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Is the verizon extended battery worth the extra bulk? Can I play on the regular battery all day? (sirius app, poker, browse)
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For me the answer is a resounding yes. It does add some bulk, but not like I thought it would. Honestly, I think it feels better in the hand than with the stock battery. Was told to expect 1.5x stock battery life, which seems to be spot-on after a week of use. Only bummer is missing the kickstand feature of the shell/holster combo, which the device no longer fits.

Like you, I was worried about the added bulk. But they took one out of the box & let me put the cover on my phone to get a feel for it, & that convinced me. Probably not a bad idea to try before you buy, if your Verizon folks are as accomodating.

Btw, I'm speaking of the oem 2150 mah battery & cover. My apologies if you were thinking of one of the other available extended batteries.
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Even if you havent set them up to be used the stock, news, and weather built into htc sense will ping and sync in the background. I manually went into the settings>>accounts & sync and disable sync on stocks, news, and set weather at auto update every 3 hours. Also as has been mentioned try turning brightness down and setting screen timeouts to 30 seconds...
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Great tips everyone!!

Keep them coming. Hows everyone feel about renaming this thread Battery tips (or something) and making it a sticky since their is obviously plenty of people that will still benefit from this?

Respond here or PM me nate or anyone else.

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Since display has been using such a large percentage of the battery, I have made it a habit to keep the screen as low as possible.
Another thing I am trying is a very dark theme on everything I can. Homescreen minimal with a black background to keep power useage low.
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I thought black only helped power usage if it was an amoled screen?
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I have never heard that. Interesting.
It only makes sense to me that the brighter the screen is, the more energy is being used. If the screen used as much energy on a black screen as it did on a white, the excess energy that is not coming out in the form of light waves would have to come out as heat, sound, or motion.
This comes from my very basic understandings of physics and energy. I don't claim to know everything about how these screens work. Just deducing
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1. Set preferred Network to CDMA Mode (not Global unless you plan to be out of country).

2. Manually control your screen brightness and set to lowest level you can tolerate.

3. Download Juice Defender. I would recommend the following settings:
a Set profile to customize
b. enable mobile data and wifi. This lets Juicedefender control when your 3G and wifi are turned on and off.
c. set wifi preferred and enable location. This remembers the wifi networks you like to connect to and will attempt do to so before turning on 3G. Wifi always uses less power then 3G.
c. enable schedule and set to a time frame when juicedefender will turn on your 3G or wifi to let data sync occur. I've got mine set for 30 minutes. If I don't turn on my screen for 30 minutes, JD will turn on 3G or wifi, perform a data sync, and turn it back off. This throttling on and off of the radios on the phone saves a lot of juice. So far haven't seen any issues with the Dinc2.
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a Set profile to customize
b. enable mobile data and wifi. This lets Juicedefender control when your 3G and wifi are turned on and off.
c. set wifi preferred and enable location. This remembers the wifi networks you like to connect to and will attempt do to so before turning on 3G. Wifi always uses less power then 3G.
c. enable schedule and set to a time frame when juicedefender will turn on your 3G or wifi to let data sync occur. I've got mine set for 30 minutes. If I don't turn on my screen for 30 minutes, JD will turn on 3G or wifi, perform a data sync, and turn it back off. This throttling on and off of the radios on the phone saves a lot of juice. So far haven't seen any issues with the Dinc2.
I use Juice Defender and like it too. Note that some of the features above are not available in the free version. Also, for some reason JD Plus and JD Ultimate are cheaper through the Amazon Android store. Currently I'm using "Plus", which only cost $1.50, and it offers all the features you mentioned.
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I thought black only helped power usage if it was an amoled screen?

What little I have been able to find on this indicates only flourescent back lit LCD displays use more power to display black than white. I haven't been able to find much about our display, so if anyone has info on the tech used for our display, please share. Sometimes my Google skills are lacking.

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1. Set preferred Network to CDMA Mode (not Global unless you plan to be out of country).

2. Manually control your screen brightness and set to lowest level you can tolerate.

3. Download Juice Defender. I would recommend the following settings:
a Set profile to customize
b. enable mobile data and wifi. This lets Juicedefender control when your 3G and wifi are turned on and off.
c. set wifi preferred and enable location. This remembers the wifi networks you like to connect to and will attempt do to so before turning on 3G. Wifi always uses less power then 3G.
c. enable schedule and set to a time frame when juicedefender will turn on your 3G or wifi to let data sync occur. I've got mine set for 30 minutes. If I don't turn on my screen for 30 minutes, JD will turn on 3G or wifi, perform a data sync, and turn it back off. This throttling on and off of the radios on the phone saves a lot of juice. So far haven't seen any issues with the Dinc2.
A big thanks for posting this up. I just discovered juice defender & was spending time tweaking it out.

One question though, does it look for wifi every 15 min? If so I may need to adjust b/c at home there is wifi and at school there is wifi, but we only use hardwire connections at NPS. So - is it spending a lot of time / juice looking for wifi, or not really? I am stoked that juice defender is much more automated than me toggling my settings on and off all the time.
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A big thanks for posting this up. I just discovered juice defender & was spending time tweaking it out.

One question though, does it look for wifi every 15 min? If so I may need to adjust b/c at home there is wifi and at school there is wifi, but we only use hardwire connections at NPS. So - is it spending a lot of time / juice looking for wifi, or not really? I am stoked that juice defender is much more automated than me toggling my settings on and off all the time.

The application learns the location of your preferred wifi spots and knows when to scan for the wifi signal. If it's not close to the location then it automatically connects to 3g.
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All good tips. But I can't believe no one has yet to mention Live Wallpaper on this thread. Ditch the Live Wallpaper. It's a cpu hog
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I am also having trouble with that mpt service eating up my battery. However, I can't seem to find a way to factory reset my phone. I tried checking under settings > privacy, but no such option exists. Any suggestions?
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I am also having trouble with that mpt service eating up my battery. However, I can't seem to find a way to factory reset my phone. I tried checking under settings > privacy, but no such option exists. Any suggestions?
well not sure factory reset is the first thing I would try but you can find it undermenu>settings>sd phone storage>factory reset
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Thanks, I found it under that menu. I will give it a try and see what happens!
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Here's my stats so far with medium usage today:
10h 24m unplugged with 56% left

Usage:
Display - 29%
Dialer - 23%
Standby - 14%
Phone idle - 10%
Voice calls - 6%
Wifi - 5%
System/Maps/Camera - 3%
OS/Phandroid - 2%
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Well the factory reset worked for getting rid of the MTP service, but only for a day. It's back on there now, eating up my battery life again. I've been checking frequently over the past few days after everything I do on my phone, and I noticed it came back on when I plugged it into my computer. I was trying to get it to sync with the app doubleTwist on my computer, but not having very good luck. Could it be that app, or something else?
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I use Y5 Battery saver as it is simpler than juice defender for toggling wifi.
I turned off syncing for things I don't use like stocks, news and backup assistant (in accounts) and turned down things like weather to once a day. I don't use any email services that poll (like every 15 min) that just wastes juice. I use push exchange, push email from verizon as in termediary or a push app like the yahoo app. POP is the worst on battery. IMAP is a little better. I set a off peak schedule and over night the phone doesn't drain. The battery seems as good as my X which was as good as an iphone4. Just have to adjust properly. My BT is on all the time because I use it a lot. Doesn't seem to use much juice. 1.5 days is typical for me with use.
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