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Old April 29th, 2011, 07:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Okay. I'm starting my first full day with the Dinc2 on a fresh charge. Unplugged it this morning at 7:15 AM EST. I'll post updates on this thread throughout the day and let you know how the consumption is going. Just to set a baseline for this experiment, as everyone may have slightly different results than me...

-I'm using wifi throughout the day
-I have my screen timeout set to 1min
-Variable brightness
-Bluetooth off (really... who keeps it on all day??)
-GPS off
-Auto-Sync on (gmail, facebook, backup assistant)

These are pretty conservative settings but this is usually how my day goes for me. This weekend i'll put it through more rigorous testing as i'm away from my desk where I get cushy wifi all day.

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Thank goodness we have someone to test this. It's a deciding factor for me.

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Mid-Morning update coming shortly! I was stuck in a product release meeting for over an hour this morning (ack!).
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First update!

As of 10:45am I am at 90% battery. I have been unplugged for 3 hours and 30 minutes. Here's the rundown of what is using the battery

Display - 53%
Android System 22%
Cell Standby - 8%
Phone Idle - 7%
Wi-Fi - 4%
Android OS - 2%
Gmail - 2%
Market - 2%

Looking at the Android System details:

CPU total - 4m 59s
CPU foreground - 32s
Data sent - 75.72 KB
Data received - 221.17 KB

I'm in the process of installing the Android SDK so I can get you guys some screen shots instead of me having to type this all out.

I'll post another update sometime in the noon-hour as i'll be out and about and using 3G.
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Second Update!

Okay... Over my lunch break I decided to run some errands so I turned off my WiFi and went 3G and fired up Pandora. I had it running for almost a full hour and the decrease was minimal. I went from 90% down to 80%. I'm going by the battery gauge found in Settings>About Phone>Battery. I can't say for sure where the percentage remaining is but it's somewhere between 80 and 90%.

Here's how the battery use breaks down:

-Display 49%
-Android System 19%
-MediaServer 15%
-Cell Standby 7%
-Phone Idle 6%
-Wi-Fi 2%
-Android OS 2%

In my opinion I feel, so far, that this phone is just sipping the battery juice. I know that on my Dinc1 at this point Pandora would have taken a big bite out of my battery power.

Things are looking pretty good at this point...
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Here's some screen captures. Unfortunately I cannot tell the phone not to charge on USB so I made sure I kept the phone plugged in for only a few seconds while I captured the screen. I know it's not ideal... but I don't think it will affect the overall experiment.



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Quick update... The battery has not moved! This is simply astounding to me. My Dinc1 would be down near 50% by now doing absolutely nothing all day. Dinc2 is still somewhere between 80 and 90%.

Dinc2 over at phonescoop shows that the standby time is over twice that of the Dinc1.

http://tinyurl.com/5s63vbm

More update action coming later tonight.
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With minimal usage mine is at 80% after 10 hours of being unplugged. Pretty impressed so far.
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Hmmm...my battery performance is not so stellar. But, I have TouchDown and when I had push enabled, I got a significant amount of exchange email today. I'm going to a similar test like this tomorrow.
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The more people we have doing these tests the better.
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9pm... Still going strong. After work I went to the bar and fired up the 3G. Played some games, downloaded a couple apps, facebook, and posted on the best forum in the world using the Phandroid app (srsly awesome app).

I'm down a bit in the battery department but no where near I would have been with my Dinc1. Check the screen grabs below.

The battery is holding up very well!!



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Last update for today. I better make this quick... my laptop is about to die. I can't, however, say the same for my Dinc2. I still have 40% battery left!
I've spent the majority of my day on WiFi, which as I mentioned in the first post is a typical weekday for me. I'll be doing another round of testing tomorrow and will spend more time on 3G instead of WiFi and lots and lots of streaming music. I anticipate that my phone will be sufficiently drained by this time tomorrow but I know that will still be better than the Dinc1.

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My settings are similar to yours, and I'm using JuiceDefender Beta (which worked wonders on my Tbolt's battery life), and still only getting MAYBE 30 hours before I have to plug in. :/
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Yea, on my Dinc1 I used Advanced Task Killer religiously. I feel like it made a difference but there were plenty of people who say that it hurts more than it helps. So i'm deciding to not install any task management/killer app on my Dinc2 and just let the OS handle that. Looking at the running programs the OS appears to be doing a pretty good job on it's own so far.
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its where you bump the phone on the table while it charges.

seriously where you unplug the phone and then turn it off and plug the charger back in to the phone to charge it more. when plugged in the light will turn from green to yellow orange whatever color it is lol. Its suppose to charge the battery the rest of the way. Thats a bump charge.
 
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p.s. If you are having success with the battery then avoid the task manager at all costs. Whether you believed it helped or hurt your original Incredible.
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I am having horrible battery life. I just bought the phone yesterday! Help =(

I unplugged it from the charger at 6am....by 7am (with no use) it was down to 90%....it has been 5 hours since i unplugged. I talked on the phone for 1 hour and 11 min....other then that ocassional phone use but not much....

I am at 22% battery! AHHHH

I heard about the recharging the phone with the phone off. Any other suggestions?
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I am having horrible battery life. I just bought the phone yesterday! Help =(

I unplugged it from the charger at 6am....by 7am (with no use) it was down to 90%....it has been 5 hours since i unplugged. I talked on the phone for 1 hour and 11 min....other then that ocassional phone use but not much....

I am at 22% battery! AHHHH

I heard about the recharging the phone with the phone off. Any other suggestions?
Try this... Go to Settings>About Phone>Battery>Battery Use...

What does your phone say has been using the battery? Aside from the critical functions of the phone (display, cell standby, android os, etc...) what else has been using your phone? Anything stand out as suspicious? If so try disabling that app or removing it and see if that makes a difference. Also, how about the state of your peripherals such as WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, Syncing, etc.
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I just turned off my phone to charge. But before I turned it off it said something like 60% applications....30% phone call...10% display....10% other stuff. No wifi enabled and 40% brightness setting. I did have GPS on all the time and just disabled before turning off my phone to charge. What was suspicious was the 100-90% battery drain in one hour and my phone saying 90% was due to apps. At that moment I removed my news feed app in case that was the problem but battery still draining
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Okay. So that says something. You mentioned news feed... take a look at your apps and see which ones you have set as a widget on your screens? Those will drain your battery as they are constantly updating. So either remove them or throttle down the update rate.

Also, as someone mentioned in another thread, this is a new phone and you're gonna play with it... a lot... just like we all did. So during this time of experimentation with your new toy the battery will drain much faster. Once things start to settle down and it's back to life as usual the battery life will improve.
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I am having GREAT battery life. Some might say, it's Incredible!

My weather app updates every 3 hours and on-demand if I launch it.
Facebook widget...Mint.com widgets...Penguins Widget...audio manager widget...TouchDown mail widget...calendar widget...Pandora widget...and i keep brightness at 20% unless I'm out in a bright environment.

Sunday I unplugged at 6:40 a.m....I was on Wi-Fi for 75% of my day at home...played some games...got Exchange emails...GMail...texts...GTalk...minor web browsing. When I went to bed at 11:00 p.m. that night, I still had 52% battery left!
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Update....I turned on my phone 50min ago. Battery is at 87%

A program called PVMtpServiceStart took 60% of my battery..Display was 25%...voice is 6%.....android system 3%....cell standby 2%....phone idle 2%....android OS 2%.

What is PVMtpservice start. That was what I saw when I first took my phone off the charger this morning and I guess what i meant earlier which was applications drain
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A program called PVMtpServiceStart took 60% of my battery..Display was 25%...voice is 6%.....android system 3%....cell standby 2%....phone idle 2%....android OS 2%.

What is PVMtpservice start. That was what I saw when I first took my phone off the charger this morning and I guess what i meant earlier which was applications drain
After a little googling I found that PVMtpServiceStart is related to the blockbuster app that comes stock on our phones. If you go to the Android Market and update this app then go into the app and disable auto updates then restart your phone the service will no longer run.

This is very strange because I haven't seen this service running much less eating my battery... so i'm not sure why it's running for you and not for me. Anyone else seeing this running in their current services?
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After a little googling I found that PVMtpServiceStart is related to the blockbuster app that comes stock on our phones. If you go to the Android Market and update this app then go into the app and disable auto updates then restart your phone the service will no longer run.

This is very strange because I haven't seen this service running much less eating my battery... so i'm not sure why it's running for you and not for me. Anyone else seeing this running in their current services?
Yes very unusual. I also googled and read what you read. I updated th blockbuster app and went to their settings tab and it does not let u change the updates. It actually only lets you active your phone or not activate it for the movies. That is all. I think they took those features off because i tried every possible way to find the auto sync feature with no luck.
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Just got the D.INC.2, and really like it. Very happy I passed on the fruit company offering .

First couple charges had a lot of standby time & less use (I let the phone drain overnight) - really good "up" time, around the 20 hour mark.

Today was a good test of heavy use, lots of angry birds, amazon music locker, talking on the phone, went running using map my run with GPS for an hour, ect. Heavy use. Still got 13 hours.

In both cases, app killer was used, 30-40% brightness, and when i was not using services, I turned them off i.e. datasync. Yay widgets.

I'm really happy. All I need is my otterbox to show up & i'll be all set. I figure after the novelty wears off and i stop compulsively playing with it, I'll be able to get through a full day no problem.
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After a little googling I found that PVMtpServiceStart is related to the blockbuster app that comes stock on our phones. If you go to the Android Market and update this app then go into the app and disable auto updates then restart your phone the service will no longer run.

This is very strange because I haven't seen this service running much less eating my battery... so i'm not sure why it's running for you and not for me. Anyone else seeing this running in their current services?
Good news. I fixed the problem. I went to the verizon store and they looked at my phone. They said the PVMtpServiceStart which was using all the battery is a phone program and can't be uninstalled but it also should not be running like that and likely a app was activating it to run constantly. They did a factory reset on my phone and the hope was that when apps got redownloaded to make sure each one did not activate PVMtpServiceStart. I didn't install all my apps back on and also did not see the PVMtpServiceStart get activated anymore...woohooo. I charged up my battery and played with it a little before bed....and of course a little this morning and through the day. My phone has been unplugged 16 hours and I still have 42% battery left. I guess this is what battery life looks like. YAY!
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Good to know. So what app do you think may have been the problem?
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Is there a way to stop apps running that I'm not using? like VZ Navagator, Facebook, Flickr. none are on any of my screens but when I look at the apps running they are listed.

Also I would call myself a Med User. Good amount of texting, some emails (gmail). check twitter 2-3x a day. I have screen down to 20% gps off, wifi off and I can't get thru 6 hrs.

What should I do..?
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I used my Inc2 all day yesterday and when I went to bed around 11, it was around 70-80%.

I ran the FM tuner for about 2 hours strait while I was out kayaking, had a few phone calls, lots of texting and email and some web browsing. MUCH better than my OG Droid, even on CM7.

My only widgets are the HTC clock/weather which updates every 3 hours and GMail unread count.
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anyone can say whether or not there actually is break-in period for these batteries? i'm wondering because so far i am getting pretty poor battery life on my phone. hoping that its a break-in period i have to get through before seeing what everyone else has been seeing.
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The caveat to this post is that I do not know anything about the battery technology. With that out of the way, my battery seems way better now that it has been through a few cycles. I don't think that my use has changed dramatically from my first post. I wish I had some science to back it up but I don't.
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yeah I've seen posts going both ways so I'm wondering what people are experiencing. I think that there is too much disagfreement about the science of it all, but experience, imo, trumps the science. So I'm just hoping that I can find some good news here (that there is a break-in period)
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yeah I've seen posts going both ways so I'm wondering what people are experiencing. I think that there is too much disagfreement about the science of it all, but experience, imo, trumps the science. So I'm just hoping that I can find some good news here (that there is a break-in period)
I can say this. I have had this phone for almost 2 weeks. The first 4 days I could not get 5hrs with out it going down to 20% not I can go all day with Mod use. What changed? Not sure. I can say I took off the CNN app. All others I left. But I can say I did 2-3 factory re-sets. wiping the phone. Then it started lasting better. IS that break in?
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sounds like it. good news to hear. hope to see the same!
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I love my phone.. a lot, but I am still not having much luck with battery life. I have tried virtually every solution offered above, have deleted a ton of apps.. (which is a shame, cause part of the reason I got this phone was because of the apps), and it still drops so fast.. I must be missing something. Yesterday, about noon it was at 46%.. set it on the table while gardening, No wifi on, no gsp... and 3 hours later it was 19%
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Yesterday, about noon it was at 46%.. set it on the table while gardening, No wifi on, no gsp... and 3 hours later it was 19%
It has to be from sync'ing too often and/or hyperactive widgets. Not sure what else would cause the battery to drain so much while sitting idle. Weak cellular signal causing it to search and/or boost radio output?

Have you looked at the report on Settings>About Phone>Battery? It would be nice to know the before/after numbers after letting it sit idle for 3 hours.
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It has to be from sync'ing too often and/or hyperactive widgets. Not sure what else would cause the battery to drain so much while sitting idle. Weak cellular signal causing it to search and/or boost radio output?
Good signal. Only have mail to sync often.. but will double check the others..

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Have you looked at the report on Settings>About Phone>Battery? It would be nice to know the before/after numbers after letting it sit idle for 3 hours.
Just read about that so going to be checking after it runs down some today.. When I looked after charging it over night, it looked identical to the screen grab Nate posted above a ways. It has just dropped from 99% to 89% in about an hour of no use, other than a few txt messages and an e-mail. Says
Display 68%
Cell Standby 12%
Phone idle 11%
Android System 4%
Android OS 3%
Com.htc.launcher 2%

Does that tell anyone anything??
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I changed Face book to Manual refresh and twitter to 4 hours.. the highest option.. not sure where google calendar syncs.. but looking for it..
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For a few text messages and a couple of emails, that seems very high. Is your display staying on and not going out?

Edit - mine has been off the charger for 8 hours, is at 74%, and my display number is 28%
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For a few text messages and a couple of emails, that seems very high. Is your display staying on and not going out?

Edit - mine has been off the charger for 8 hours, is at 74%, and my display number is 28%
I have it to time out in 2 minutes, but usually screen lock to turn it off sooner.. a habit when I put it down... could pushing the screen lock be doing it?????
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I have it to time out in 2 minutes, but usually screen lock to turn it off sooner.. a habit when I put it down... could pushing the screen lock be doing it?????
Mine is set for 30 seconds. You should try setting it there and see what happens.
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Mine is set for 30 seconds. You should try setting it there and see what happens.
K.. I use the voice to text feature for txt messages sometimes.. is that a bad battery hog?
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K.. I use the voice to text feature for txt messages sometimes.. is that a bad battery hog?
I don't think so. I do that all the time too. And I use Nuance's Flex-T9 keyboard which is great and has the VTT option as well.
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Try turning off VIBRATION...i noticed a big difference if you dont always keep it on vibrate
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Hmmm...my battery performance is not so stellar. But, I have TouchDown and when I had push enabled, I got a significant amount of exchange email today. I'm going to a similar test like this tomorrow.

At a full charge I only get 3-4 hrs on the battery life with just mild use.
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Got it to a full charge on Monday and took it off battery at 10:41am.

With moderate usage (app downloads/updates, e-mail syncing, 15 minutes playing games, small amount of voice - 30/45 minutes, max, random web browsing, facebook/e-mail/twitter/tapatalk).

Connected to WiFi while at work and at home. I turn the WiFi off while I am driving and also turned syncing off while I slept.

I started writing this around 5:10pm, Tuesday, so at 30.5 hours off charge, I still have about 30% of my battery left.
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