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Old November 30th, 2011, 02:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm usually not one to put on the tinfoil hat, but it seems more than appropriate here. I'm rooted. Any instructions on how to remove this crap?
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I'm usually not one to put on the tinfoil hat, but it seems more than appropriate here. I'm rooted. Any instructions on how to remove this crap?

If you're rooted, it has most likely been disabled by the developer of whichever ROM you're using. I'm not sure our phones even came with this installed in the first place, but you can always PM the developer and ask if you're curious.
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I can't believe they log passwords!!! How can I find out if my HTC Incredible 2 has Carrier IQ installed?
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This is some shady stuff. Not that I have anything to hide, but yeah, definitely leaves one feeling a little insecure.
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Notsure Verizon and Carrier IQ

The article I read today stated that Verizon does not use Carrier IQ software on any of their phones, I will have to look for it and find the link, in the meantime I will read the article of the original post...

We dodged the bullet the last time with the massive security breach article exposing the hTC sense logger file.

Found it here...

http://www.slashgear.com/developer-reveals-hidden-carrier-iq-smartphone-app-logging-everything-you-do-30198935/
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If you're rooted, it has most likely been disabled by the developer of whichever ROM you're using. I'm not sure our phones even came with this installed in the first place, but you can always PM the developer and ask if you're curious.
I just run stock rooted. I don't bother with ROMS.
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I can't believe they log passwords!!! How can I find out if my HTC Incredible 2 has Carrier IQ installed?
Download "AnyCut" from the market. Look for anything with"IQ" in it.
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I can't believe they log passwords!!! How can I find out if my HTC Incredible 2 has Carrier IQ installed?
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The Inc2 (and every other VZW phone) does not have CarrierIQ on it.

http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/26...rier-iq-denial
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The Inc2 (and every other VZW phone) does not have CarrierIQ on it.

http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/26...rier-iq-denial
What else is there that we don't know about yet?
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Tons. But we have to cross each bridge as we get to it.
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Surprised astronomical

This Carrier IQ company must have a VERY large database/serverfarm to handle/process/store all this information coming from all the phones it is on.
That is a astronomical amount of data.
I work at an online shipping company and I know what we have to process all our info, I just can't imagine how big their processing network is!
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This Carrier IQ company must have a VERY large database/serverfarm to handle/process/store all this information coming from all the phones it is on.
That is a astronomical amount of data.
I work at an online shipping company and I know what we have to process all our info, I just can't imagine how big their processing network is!
That assumes that all of the data is sent. Even if the data is logged, I'd be surprised if all of it, or even close to all of it, is sent.
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The Inc2 (and every other VZW phone) does not have CarrierIQ on it.

http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/26...rier-iq-denial
And you just outright believe them? LOL

No way - I won't believe that statement from Verizon until I've seen it proven by a 3rd party. CiQ stated they don't log anything, but it's been overly proven they do.
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And you just outright believe them? LOL

No way - I won't believe that statement from Verizon until I've seen it proven by a 3rd party. CiQ stated they don't log anything, but it's been overly proven they do.
I have been following threads on various forums about this topic (forums cellular related and not) and no one with a VZW phone has it on their phone.

That certainly gives significant credibility to their statement. And, VZW knows full well that if it's on there people will find it, so there's no chance they would make such a matter of fact statement regarding it if it weren't true.

Are they using somebody else's product to do the same thing? Maybe. Are they using CarrierIQ? No chance.
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I wish Verizon would make this available to me so I could prove to them that their network sucks. They lost a tower in downtown Sisters, OR and it took me three trouble tickets over six weeks to get them to look at it.
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And you just outright believe them? LOL

No way - I won't believe that statement from Verizon until I've seen it proven by a 3rd party. CiQ stated they don't log anything, but it's been overly proven they do.
There's an app you can run on your phone to check. I checked my DInc2. It found nothing for whatever that's worth.
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Security researcher responds to CarrierIQ with video proof ? Cell Phones & Mobile Device Technology News & Updates | Geek.com

Interesting but I'm not putting on my tinfoil hat. But I live in an aluminum clad trailer.
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AT&T, Sprint confirm use of Carrier IQ software on handsets - Computerworld
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I have been following threads on various forums about this topic (forums cellular related and not) and no one with a VZW phone has it on their phone.

That certainly gives significant credibility to their statement. And, VZW knows full well that if it's on there people will find it, so there's no chance they would make such a matter of fact statement regarding it if it weren't true.

Are they using somebody else's product to do the same thing? Maybe. Are they using CarrierIQ? No chance.
There's a some truth to this too.. I've run TrevE's app a while back and it came back clean (assuming I ran it properly), but I'm also on a rooted CM7 Dinc with a few extra mods. Ok - I'm fairly certain MY device is clean, but that's not to say that I trust Verizon. That's not to say there's "no chance."

Only time will tell. I think the next few weeks will be quite interesting as this thing is blowing up rather quickly. In just the last hour, there were 10,000 downloads of Trev's app. Whoa... there's a lot of paranoia out there today!

I think today is the day I go into business selling tin hats for smartphones!
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2011/12/01/al-franken-carrier-iq_n_1123942.html
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I kinda like the thought that some carriers are trying to improve their networks. Verizon just sticks their head in the sand and declares that their network is perfect.

* NPR has picked this story up. The sky is falling.
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I kinda like the thought that some carriers are trying to improve their networks. Verizon just sticks their head in the sand and declares that their network is perfect.
Sure, they're overpriced and their in-store customer service leaves something to be desired, but all in all, I'm happier with then than I have been with any other carrier. AND, they were smart enough to not jump on the Carrier IQ bandwagon! Even if people aren't doing anything wrong, no one wants a third party "snooping" on their personal life (even if Carrier IQ has done nothing wrong). EULAs are bullshit! The important material that they know you won't read should be broken down for the average consumer to understand. Sneaky bastards!
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Sure, they're overpriced and their in-store customer service leaves something to be desired, but all in all, I'm happier with then than I have been with any other carrier. AND, they were smart enough to not jump on the Carrier IQ bandwagon! Even if people aren't doing anything wrong, no one wants a third party "snooping" on their personal life (even if Carrier IQ has done nothing wrong). EULAs are bullshit! The important material that they know you won't read should be broken down for the average consumer to understand. Sneaky bastards!
Ditto - Verizon, imo, does have better call quality than other carriers.

It's one thing to have Verizon do their own snooping on a phone that I pay them to use (their service). Fine. I've opted out where I can (thanks for the choice), but to have a 3rd party do the snooping for you, not give you a choice, and not let you know that it's happening? FAIL.

If this were done on a desktop system (apple or PC), it would be immediately flagged as a virus / malware and would be immediately squashed. Why does it matter that that it's on my phone instead? I probably do as include as much sensitive information on my phone as I do on my computer. If we want better service, let us figure it out, just like we have been doing for the past 30 years.
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here we go with more media overreaction (and just plain not understanding things) in the name of ratings.

I'm not a programer or developer or anything like that, but I can follow the arguments (seems a rare ability today)

Yes, Carrier IQ is alarming, every other app asks you and informs you of what it does. So, that's an issue.

But from what I can tell from that guys vid, he's not saying CIQ is logging anything, or sending anything to anyone. What he's showing is CIQ is "listening" to all those things. Regular apps would alert you it has the ability to listen to those things before you install it. Like my folder manager apps tells me it has access to services that cost me money, it can call phone number, so I can direct dial a contact from a folder, a feature I never use.

So, this isn't a case of CIQ spying on anyone (at least not yet) Its a case of an application not giving express warning of the things it has access to before its installed on your phone. I'm not worried my folder manager app is secretly logging my phone calls. My weather app tells me it has access to my location and internet, it could secretly be compiling a database of my movements and sending it to the NSA... but chances are its not.

So a worry, yes... but not to the level of some secret NSA spying program. I highly doubt Sprint (Verizon doesn't use CIQ) is compiling databases of everyone's text messages and phone calls (why would they want to?). Though it does seem the ability is in place if they wanted to, and customers haven't been told about that potential.


But again, why would they want to? Its a lot of data to manage, for what benefit? Government might like the ability, so if the carriers did spy on all of our keystrokes, its only going to open the possiblity that a government agency at some point tries to get their hands on it, (like they try to get ISPs to turn over info), not to mention all the laws that might be violated in the first place, and it equals big legal mess for the carrier. So again, why would a carrier want to collect all that data?

Also, don't the carriers already have access to every text and phone call you make, you are running it through their network...
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At a whopping $100 a day violation took place...

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The suits allege that as customers were using their phones, the handset makers were surreptitiously monitoring and collecting private information without permission.
There has been no evidence, that I've seen (am I wrong) that the carriers were logging or collecting ANY information via CIQ.

This is what I mean, we love to be outraged over things (no matter how trivial)... senators can grandstand and show you they are really looking out for you, and try to justify their existence. Lawyers can cash in. The media jack up their ratings when people tune it to hear about the "outrageous scandal." There is no perspective left in the world.
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Isn't that the real reason we're on the internet anyways? The only reason people like to get online is to...

A.) bitch about everything we can because no one in real life will listen

B.) download music and movies because the music/movie industries are so goddamn overpriced

C.) buy shit from Amazon.com

D.) check for new ROMs to install on our Android devices

E.) read all of the ridiculously funny comments on Gizmodo

F.) hope to find a BangBros user name and password

G.) gossip about secretive software installed on cell phones

Other than the aformentioned things, there's really no other reason to pay for internet. Well, besides to play Call of Duty online.
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Isn't that the real reason we're on the internet anyways? The only reason people like to get online is to...

A.) bitch about everything we can because no one in real life will listen

B.) download music and movies because the music/movie industries are so goddamn overpriced

C.) buy shit from Amazon.com

D.) check for new ROMs to install on our Android devices

E.) read all of the ridiculously funny comments on Gizmodo

F.) hope to find a BangBros user name and password

G.) gossip about secretive software installed on cell phones

Other than the aformentioned things, there's really no other reason to pay for internet. Well, besides to play Call of Duty online.
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reading the comments of that story though almost makes me cry, we've become a bunch of ******s...


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oh. I don't think they have been unjustly accused of anything.
and the carriers are up to their eyeballs in it too!! if they need battery life info, put a bunch of phone in a lab. or allow customers to opt in and out or monitoring !!! this is illegal wiretaping and privacy invasion
wiretapping? Why exactly would the carriers want a database of your text messages (data they already have flowing thorough their network and could save at any time?)


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1) The CIA controls most US major media
2) The CIA severely violates your privacy rights all the time, and the CarrierIQ is a small part of the business
3) The CIA owns CarrierIQ and Declan McCullagh
4) All good Americans should rise to the defense of their nation against the systemic infiltration of our system by rogue government agencies like the CIA. No one else will do it for you.

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Ok, so why not let users aware from the beginning? And why not offer the simple option to refuse the "service"?
A fair question... but I don't think it rises to the level of a Senate investigation.

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CNET is losing credibility. This article seems like damage control disinformation on behalf of . . . spy agencies? The key logging denial is obviously NOT TRUE because we all SAW the log file with "Hello World" in it. It appears CNET is a mouthpiece for Big Brother. SHAME on CNET.
Oh dear, please shut up and go occupy something.

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If CIQ isn't transmitting personal data and it isn't being recorded anywhere, than why would CIQ invest the programming resources (i.e. money) necessary to capture that data in the first place?

Mr. McCullagh is either an industry shill, or very, very naive.

I am researching right now how to root my Droid and expunge this sick POS spyware if found.
Do all these people have some fantasy their a secret agent, with all kinds of juicy national secrets that carriers and governments are trying to get their hands on? News flash, your life isn't that special, Verizon doesn't care you <3 your girlfriend.


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Once again, it means nothing for CIQ to gave access to Rebecca Bace (I don't even care who she is!) No one should put any secrete software without my knowledge. It is simply illegal (or why do they hide?) to pre-install any in-installable, non-OS related software into an equipment that I legally and financially owned without my consent. It is just that black and white!
I'm sure you don't understand or are aware of 50% of the software running on your phone or any device.
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Yes, Carrier IQ is alarming, every other app asks you and informs you of what it does. So, that's an issue.

So a worry, yes... but not to the level of some secret NSA spying program. I highly doubt Sprint (Verizon doesn't use CIQ) is compiling databases of everyone's text messages and phone calls (why would they want to?). Though it does seem the ability is in place if they wanted to, and customers haven't been told about that potential.
This is like saying it's OK to have a backdoor installed on your phone as long as it isn't being used. Is that really ok with you? People who live in the "1st world" may not feel government surveillance is a problem, but have a look at the 3rd world and see what's possible. It may be coming to a theater near you.
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This is like saying it's OK to have a backdoor installed on your phone as long as it isn't being used. Is that really ok with you? People who live in the "1st world" may not feel government surveillance is a problem, but have a look at the 3rd world and see what's possible. It may be coming to a theater near you.
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I have nothing to hide.
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I am not ok with my right to privacy being violated, whether the government, authorities or anyone else says I have the right or not. I will fight to keep what I see as my inalienable rights.
I see it like not allowing us to have locks on our doors. Or shades on our windows.
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+1

I have nothing to hide.
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I am not ok with my right to privacy being violated. Whether the government, authorities, or anyone else says I have the right or not. I will fight to keep what I see as my inalienable rights.
I see it like not allowing us to have locks on our doors. Or shades on our windows.
Thanks for debunking the "nothing to hide" POV. I believe that many people who think government surveillance isn't a problem because they're not engaging in criminal activity would be very, very upset to find themselves being surveilled. Having nothing to hide is not the same as placing no value on personal privacy.
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This is like saying it's OK to have a backdoor installed on your phone as long as it isn't being used. Is that really ok with you? People who live in the "1st world" may not feel government surveillance is a problem, but have a look at the 3rd world and see what's possible. It may be coming to a theater near you.
This is really a joke of an argument. If government spying is what your trying to avoid by making such a big deal out of carrier IQ because the TV told you to... then why are you even using a cell phone at all? All your communications on that device are as secure as a sandwich warped in plastic. But now, because the TV and internets are talking about one specific avenue of possible penetration, (like talking about a particular hole in a colander) your all worked up.


All your data is already flowing through your carrier, they need no back door. The fact you would trust your carrier with every word said to every number called, every text message and every bit of data you move, but not some obscure analytic tool is near comical.

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I have nothing to hide.
BUT...
I am not ok with my right to privacy being violated, whether the government, authorities or anyone else says I have the right or not. I will fight to keep what I see as my inalienable rights.
I see it like not allowing us to have locks on our doors. Or shades on our windows.
But why do you see it that way? Because TV or some blog told you to? Because you just like to be outraged? The carriers already have way more access to your info. No one said you can't lock, hide or make more secure your data and communications. Step one would be not using Android, maybe the most insecure mobile platform around. There are plenty of steps you can take to make yourself more secure if you feel the need, no one has taken anything from you that I can see.

If yall are as worried about privacy as you say, CIQ is the least of your worries.


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Thanks for debunking the "nothing to hide" POV. I believe that many people who think government surveillance isn't a problem because they're not engaging in criminal activity would be very, very upset to find themselves being surveilled. Having nothing to hide is not the same as placing no value on personal privacy.
Seriously WTF, you guys must be like 16 watching lots of TV. I mean, I agree with what you've said here, I just don't think a diagnostic tool on a mass produced out of the box piece of hardware comes really close to that level.

Yeah, people should have been notified, and there is probably something buried in your contract agreement about it. I just have trouble buying this was designed and implemented as a backdoor spying solution... even harder to swallow its part of some NSA program and CIQ is a front.

Its the carriers wanting to collect as much information as possible about how their networks preform in the wild, so they could make them better than the competitor and make more money... in that desire for more and more info I think they got greedy and said, we'll just stick CIQ in the core, and not say anything about, that way no one can opt out and we'll have access to all that network data.

Is that an issue, yeah, I don't like it, but thats one reason I root and run custom ROMs. But, don't forget, by doing that your also trusting whoever wrote the ROM not to have stuck something nasty inside it.
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This is really a joke of an argument. If government spying is what your trying to avoid by making such a big deal out of carrier IQ because the TV told you to... then why are you even using a cell phone at all?

All your data is already flowing through your carrier, they need no back door. The fact you would trust your carrier with every word said to every number called, every text message and every bit of data you move, but not some obscure analytic tool is near comical.

Yeah, people should have been notified, and there is probably something buried in your contract agreement about it. I just have trouble buying this was designed and implemented as a backdoor spying solution... even harder to swallow its part of some NSA program and CIQ is a front
You are missing my point. I cannot say specifically what CIQ is, why it was put on phones, or how it could potentially be abused. I'm concerned about the larger issue of privacy Vs electronic surveillance. Last month the Supreme Court heard a case involving GPS tracking by law enforcement and it's impact on 4th amendment protections. This is rather important since it may redefine "probable cause" and the rules governing electronic surveillance. It is not possible in modern society to hide. Giving up cell phones, computers, credit cards, etc, is not a solution. Tracking cannot be avoided so there must be rules defining what is legal and what is not. Clandestine electronic tracking without "probable cause" should be affirmed as illegal and whenever it is discovered it should be made public. As you've said the carriers and the government already have the power. It is only the rule of law that restrains them. Regarding TV, I've seen reports about how foreign governments try to control civilian populations by turning off cell phone networks and internet access, or they go the other route and engage in targeted tracking. I don't think feeling concerned about this is childish.
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See what exactly what way? I don't think I get your question. Could you please be more specific?
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I don't watch T.V. or read much for blogs, let alone let them or you for that matter tell me what to think.
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Because you just like to be outraged?
Are you trying to make a point? Can I be upset? Is that ok with you?
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The carriers already have way more access to your info.
I know that silly. You think I wasn't aware of that when I gave it to them? They do not have access to everything CIQ would if it were on my phone.
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I do, I think. Not sure I know what you're trying to say here.
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Step one would be not using Android, maybe the most insecure mobile platform around.
You need to read up on things before you make bold and blanketing statements like this.

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There are plenty of steps you can take to make yourself more secure if you feel the need, no one has taken anything from you that I can see.
One of the steps I can and do employ to make myself more secure is to take action and talk to my peers about it. Fancy that, exactly what I'm doing here!
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If yall are as worried about privacy as you say, CIQ is the least of your worries.
So only the largest of fears are worth addressing?
You make a lot of assumptions.
It sound to me like you think we should all just roll over on our backs and take it up the pooper with a smile on our faces.
Be my guest, but don't expect me to do the same.
If you aren't concerned, then say so. If you think our concerns are unfounded, I'll even accept that. But don't be arrogant and offensive please.
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It sound to me like you think we should all just roll over on our backs and take it up the pooper with a smile on our faces.
Not to nitpick here, but it seems to me that rolling over on your back would be the most effective way to prevent taking up the pooper.
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Thanks for the "tip"
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Thanks, I was started to worry that things were getting too serious
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Here is information about another class action law suit being filed in response to Carrier IQ. Apple, Carrier IQ Inc, and six wireless carriers and phone manufacturers are named.

New Smartphone Suit re Data-Sharing Software Targets Apple, Wireless Cos, Device Makers, Carrier IQ - News - ABA Journal
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My understanding is that VZW has denied having Carrier IQ on any of it's phones and no one has come up with anything to contradict them as of now. So we are not being spied on. Other people are, but not us.
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The company behind the now-notorious Carrier IQ software that has been found to log every keystroke pressed, website visited and text message sent by 150 million mobile phone users said Friday it was shocked to learn that its software was doing that.
"We're as surprised as anybody to see all that information flowing," Andrew Coward, Carrier IQ's director of marketing, told CNNMoney in an interview. "It raises a lot of questions for the industry -- and not [only] for Carrier IQ."
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My understanding is that VZW has denied having Carrier IQ on any of it's phones and no one has come up with anything to contradict them as of now. So we are not being spied on. Other people are, but not us.
According to the free Carrier IQ detection program from the folks that make Lookout Mobile Security my Inc2 doesn't have it installed. So yes, CIQ doesn't appear to be an issue on Verizon phones, but more generally we don't know to what extent tracking is occurring on the Verizon network. Note the messages you get when you enable the three GPS based services (standard GPS, Verizon and Google services). Essentially they're EULAs, but you don't really know what you're agreeing to (well, I don't). I don't think this is something to be paranoid about, but it's good to be aware of.
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According to the free Carrier IQ detection program from the folks that make Lookout Mobile Security my Inc2 doesn't have it installed. So yes, CIQ doesn't appear to be an issue on Verizon phones, but more generally we don't know to what extent tracking is occurring on the Verizon network. Note the messages you get when you enable the three GPS based services (standard GPS, Verizon and Google services). Essentially they're EULAs, but you don't really know what you're agreeing to (well, I don't). I don't think this is something to be paranoid about, but it's good to be aware of.
I don't disagree with any of that.
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