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Old April 13th, 2012, 05:10 PM   #301 (permalink)
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Not necessarily. It all depends on what type of qhd they used. There is a huge difference between the moto qhd and others with pixelation. Not to mention if it is 4" then it would be much harder to see.
I believe that the Motos use pentile, even for their LCDs, yes? That will make a difference as well.

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Maybe the inc 4g will use the same qhd screen as the HTC sensation 4g.
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Maybe the inc 4g will use the same qhd screen as the HTC sensation 4g.
If this is the version of the one s and uses amoled screen I think it will be different than the sensation since it doesn't use amoled.
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Talking 4.3" screen confirmed

It has been widely know by most that the Incredible 4G is identical to the HTC One S other than body style and now we have the smoking gun proof.

The Incredible 4G has a 4.3" screen.

There is no doubt about this as even there is no such thing as a 4" AMOLED qHD display manufactured by any screen manufacturer out there. Yes I have checked. No screen manufacturer makes 4" qHD AMOLED screens.

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It has been widely know by most that the Incredible 4G is identical to the HTC One S other than body style and now we have the smoking gun proof.

The Incredible 4G has a 4.3" screen.

There is no doubt about this as even there is no such thing as a 4" AMOLED qHD display manufactured by any screen manufacturer out there. Yes I have checked. No screen manufacturer makes 4" qHD AMOLED screens.

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This could be the first of that type?
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Im sorry but no, no manufacturer produces a 4" qHD screen. I checked all the offering from all screen manufacturers as this has been bugging me for a while now.

Not only that but the One S release date is April 25th just one day before the Incredible 4G. This is because they are the exact same phones just different body styles.
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Im sorry but no, no manufacturer produces a 4" qHD screen. I checked all the offering from all screen manufacturers as this has been bugging me for a while now.

Not only that but the One S release date is April 25th just one day before the Incredible 4G. This is because they are the exact same phones just different body styles.
Clearly if this was the first it wouldn't be on the site of any manufacturer yet. Not saying it won't be 4.3" but just saying
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Clearly if this was the first it wouldn't be on the site of any manufacturer yet. Not saying it won't be 4.3" but just saying
That does not make any sense. If its not on the manufacturers website as an offering it is not produced.....manufactures dont make things they dont offer...
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Sounds plausible, I buy it. But that could just be me hoping for a 4.3
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Im not sure what the phone on the left is, but it isn't the Inc 4g. All of the pics, and with ICS show it with 3 buttons and not 4. I am all for it being a 4.3" screen, but this isn't a pic of it. http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/wm_4.jpg showing a screenshot of the specs of the phone, and if you look on the bottom, only 3 buttons.
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I agree, compare it to the new three key layout , more recent pictures, one with the same method in the OP.

Just to say, I strongly think it will have a 4.3" inch display also...
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I'd say from a business standpoint, a 4.3" is the best bet. By going with 4.3" on all of their One S variants, they can save money through economies of scale. No sense in making a 4" screen just for one version.
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I'd say from a business standpoint, a 4.3" is the best bet. By going with 4.3" on all of their One S variants, they can save money through economies of scale. No sense in making a 4" screen just for one version.
But since they are using slcd 2 and amoled they still will be paying more since it isn't all the same type of screens across the board.
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I think the phone on the left is one of the original leaked photos of the DInc4g which did all have the 4-key layout. If that is so, the pic isn't not the DInc4g, but it also isn't the most updated photo...

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It has been widely know by most that the Incredible 4G is identical to the HTC One S other than body style and now we have the smoking gun proof...
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If you'll notice, they are definitely NOT the same phone. The camera is in a different place, flash on opposite sides and the curve at the edge of the phone is much more pronounced on the HTC One S.
They are similar at best.
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If you'll notice, they are definitely NOT the same phone. The camera is in a different place, flash on opposite sides and the curve at the edge of the phone is much more pronounced on the HTC One S.
They are similar at best.
Yes they are the same.

HTC uses the exactsame parts for the Incredible 4G and the One S just configured in a different body style. This is the exact same case as with the original Nexus One and Original incredible. They were the exact same phones only configured in a different body styles for different wireless carries (T-Mobile and Verizon). Add in the fact that both the One S and Incredible 4G are being released at the same time (April 25th for One S and April 26th for Inc. 4G)

Also note that the 4" screen in the Inc2 is 16:10 ratio.

qHD screen ratio is 16:9 which means that a 4" qHD screen would be SMALLER screen than the 4" in the Inc2. There is no way HTC will put in a smaller screen in the Incredible 4G. This is further proof that the screen is indeed 4.3" Even further more, a 4" qHD AMOLED display does not even exist and is not produced by any screen manufacturer, you can check all the offerings from screen manufacturers, no such thing.....(smoking gun proof )

I think everyone needs to just face the facts and proof that the screen on the Incredible 4G is in fact 4.3" there is no denying this anymore.
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Im not sure what the phone on the left is, but it isn't the Inc 4g. All of the pics, and with ICS show it with 3 buttons and not 4. I am all for it being a 4.3" screen, but this isn't a pic of it. http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/wm_4.jpg showing a screenshot of the specs of the phone, and if you look on the bottom, only 3 buttons.
Its the same phone just an earlier pic of it as stated before. Simply google pictures of the Incredible 4G and you will see for yourself. Version 3 has the 3-button layout
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I think we would all appreciate some proof other than you just saying they have all the same parts. Otherwise your "smoking gun" is just smoke. You typing something doesn't make it true. Care to give some evidence?
I would also argue that just because a device carries the same screen (not verified) and same processor (not verified as far as I've seen) or the same amount of memory does not mean it is the same device. Release date has nothing to do with it either.
Many Ford vehicles share engines, brake drums, and transmissions but that does not mean they are the same vehicle.

Please give some evidence for the claims you're making.

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I think we would all appreciate some proof other than you just saying they have all the same parts. Otherwise your "smoking gun" is just smoke. You typing something doesn't make it true. Care to give some evidence?
I would also argue that just because a device carries the same screen (not verified) and same processor (not verified as far as I've seen) or the same amount of memory does not mean it is the same device. Release date has nothing to do with it either.
Many Ford vehicles share engines, brake drums, and transmissions but that does not mean they are the same vehicle.

Please give some evidence for the claims you're making.

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Processor has already been confirmed, you know there are already Incredible 4G benchmarks showing the S4. Google will show dozens of websites hosting the benchmarks.

Also, Im not sure you clicked on the picture in the OP. The phones are incidental dimensions with identical screen placements and identical logo placements. They are indeed the same phones just like the Nexus One and Inc 1 were the exact same phones.

I know this is disappointing to the people who wanted a 4" screen but as stated before a 4" 16:9 qHD screen would be SMALLER than the 4" WVGA 16:10 screen on the incredible 2.
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I really only have a problem with the statement that they are the EXACT same phones. I admit I am nit picking here (maybe) but these are not the exact same phone if they are assemble differently and have different software, not to mention different radios (and who knows what else).
I can understand they share many specs and parts, but they do not share them all.
They may be very similar, granted. They are not the EXACT same phone.


I am however glad to see the DInc4G has a 4.3" screen. That is good news in my book!
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Thats fine, Im just letting everyone know that the Incredible 4G does indeed have a 4.3" and not a 4" like many people think. I know some of you are disappointed but there will be no 4" screened phone with the Snapdragon S4 chip on the Verizon network. The evidence is clear.
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Processor has already been confirmed, you know there are already Incredible 4G benchmarks showing the S4. Google will show dozens of websites hosting the benchmarks.

Also, Im not sure you clicked on the picture in the OP. The phones are incidental dimensions with identical screen placements and identical logo placements. They are indeed the same phones just like the Nexus One and Inc 1 were the exact same phones.

I know this is disappointing to the people who wanted a 4" screen but as stated before a 4" 16:9 qHD screen would be SMALLER than the 4" WVGA 16:10 screen on the incredible 2.
Kinda sounds like Incredible4G made a new screen name...
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Kinda sounds like Incredible4G made a new screen name...
Haha! I was trying not to say it, but there you go!
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Or Evan.... Anybody remember him? That guy was the greatest!!
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Until there is an official document out with official specs I won't believe any of this. Who's to say the photo in the OPs post is official, not been tampered with or photo shopped? Not sure why anybody would believe this. Right, can anybody say Evan? Why is it new members always seem to be able to start posts with all this information. The Inc 4G In Hand thread was also started by a new member... Believe it when I see it!!
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Until there is an official document out with official specs I won't believe any of this. Who's to say the photo in the OPs post is official, not been tampered with or photo shopped? Not sure why anybody would believe this. Right, can anybody say Evan? Why is it new members always seem to be able to start posts with all this information. The Inc 4G In Hand thread was also started by a new member... Believe it when I see it!!
The only thing that is known for sure is the processor from benchmarks, everything else is all people putting their 2 cents in from supposed leaked pics.
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Until there is an official document out with official specs I won't believe any of this. Who's to say the photo in the OPs post is official, not been tampered with or photo shopped? Not sure why anybody would believe this. Right, can anybody say Evan? Why is it new members always seem to be able to start posts with all this information. The Inc 4G In Hand thread was also started by a new member... Believe it when I see it!!
There is no "tampering" going on here. You can do the exact same thing I did and you will come to the same conclusion.....4.3" screen. There is no denying this. Here is the evidence so far..

4.3" screen evidence
  • Leaked pics are an exact match dimensionally to the One S
  • There is no screen manufacturer that produces 4" qHD AMOLED screens, not one.
  • HTC One S and Inc. 4G are launching at the same time (April 25 and April 26) because its the same phone just on two different carriers (T mobile and Verizon)
  • Verizon already released a 4" 4G phone 2 weeks ago to replace the Incredible 2......the LG Lucid
  • HTC Rezound (current 4.3" screened offering) has been on a fire sale for $0.00 - $50


4" screen evidence
  • Absolutely none


If we were in a court of law....case closed.
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There is no "tampering" going on here. You can do the exact same thing I did and you will come to the same conclusion.....4.3" screen. There is no denying this. Here is the evidence so far..

4.3" screen evidence
  • Leaked pics are an exact match dimensionally to the One S
  • There is no screen manufacturer that produces 4" qHD AMOLED screens, not one.
  • HTC One S and Inc. 4G are launching at the same time (April 25 and April 26) because its the same phone just on two different carriers (T mobile and Verizon)
  • Verizon already released a 4" 4G phone 2 weeks ago to replace the Incredible 2......the LG Lucid
  • HTC Rezound (current 4.3" screened offering) has been on a fire sale for $0.00 - $50


4" screen evidence
  • Absolutely none


If we were in a court of law....case closed.
Well then, perhaps it's not Amoled? Also, it's starting to look as if it won't release April 26th because Verizon would have probably announced it by now.
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There is no "tampering" going on here. You can do the exact same thing I did and you will come to the same conclusion.....4.3" screen. There is no denying this. Here is the evidence so far..

4.3" screen evidence
  • Leaked pics are an exact match dimensionally to the One S
  • There is no screen manufacturer that produces 4" qHD AMOLED screens, not one.
  • HTC One S and Inc. 4G are launching at the same time (April 25 and April 26) because its the same phone just on two different carriers (T mobile and Verizon)
  • Verizon already released a 4" 4G phone 2 weeks ago to replace the Incredible 2......the LG Lucid
  • HTC Rezound (current 4.3" screened offering) has been on a fire sale for $0.00 - $50


4" screen evidence
  • Absolutely none


If we were in a court of law....case closed.
The lucid isn't replacing the inc 2.
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Well then, perhaps it's not Amoled? Also, it's starting to look as if it won't release April 26th because Verizon would have probably announced it by now.
Verizon doesn't announce it much in advance. If anything a week before would be the max. Usually it is announced a few days before.
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Well then, perhaps it's not Amoled? Also, it's starting to look as if it won't release April 26th because Verizon would have probably announced it by now.
Already confirmed to be AMOLED. This is well known. Verizon does not and has not ever announced any Incredible until two days before its release. A simple look back at the Incredible 1 and 2 official Verizon announcement dates shows this.

Anyone else?....
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The lucid isn't replacing the inc 2.
Thats funny because it already did . The Incredible 2 was pulled from the Verizon website right when the LG Lucid was released. The same will happen to the Rezound when the Incredible 4G is released. Why do you think there is a fire sale on the Rezound....

Incredible 2 replaced by LG Lucid - Both 4" phones

Rezound replaced by Incredible 4G - Both 4.3" phones

Anyone else?...
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Already confirmed to be AMOLED. This is well known. Verizon does not and has not ever announced any Incredible until two days before its release. A simple look back at the Incredible 1 and 2 official Verizon announcement dates would have shown you this.

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Verizon doesn't announce it much in advance. If anything a week before would be the max. Usually it is announced a few days before.
I was unaware of this. Thanks for letting me know. Also AMOLED has not been confirmed, NOTHING has. Its all leaks for now until something official is released. There's a difference between likeliness, and confirmed. The most trusted leaks we have are the benchmarks, and the leaked pics. But NOTHING is confirmed. You are starting to sound an awfully lot like Incredible4G with your repetitive use of the word "confirmed"
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I was unaware of this. Thanks for letting me know. Also AMOLED has not been confirmed, NOTHING has. Its all leaks for now until something official is released. There's a difference between likeliness, and confirmed. The most trusted leaks we have are the benchmarks, and the leaked pics. But NOTHING is confirmed. You are starting to sound an awfully lot like Incredible4G with your repetitive use of the word "confirmed"
Yeah Verizon likes to keep everything hush hush unless its the iphone because they can't really control those launches.
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Yeah Verizon likes to keep everything hush hush unless its the iphone because they can't really control those launches.
Ugh that's disappointing. We won't really know a release date til a few days before. I'm really hoping it comes out on April 26th with a 4" inch screen. I'd rather have a better looking screen than a bigger screen, since qHD is very likely at this point. I want to get rid of my old LG Ally so badly lol.
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Wow, this thread became popular since last I checked it This phone has a high probability of replacing my wife's original Incredible.
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I'm thinking this phone will at least have a 1.3mp front camera. It doesn't really make sense to downgrade a phone from the previous model (even though other specs are better, nothing should be downgraded). Also, we have to remember that the newest leaked pictures we got still might not be the final product. I could be wrong though, the One S has VGA.
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I'm thinking this phone will at least have a 1.3mp front camera. It doesn't really make sense to downgrade a phone from the previous model (even though other specs are better, nothing should be downgraded). Also, we have to remember that the newest leaked pictures we got still might not be the final product. I could be wrong though, the One S has VGA.
Well if it is the same as the one s like many of you are saying then it would have same specs. It is a step up from anything on verizon not to mention it is "mid range" like many on here are saying.
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Thats funny because it already did . The Incredible 2 was pulled from the Verizon website right when the LG Lucid was released. The same will happen to the Rezound when the Incredible 4G is released. Why do you think there is a fire sale on the Rezound....

Incredible 2 replaced by LG Lucid - Both 4" phones

Rezound replaced by Incredible 4G - Both 4.3" phones

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Except the inc 2 is still on their site. If they weren't carrying it they wouldn't have it on their site. Nice try though.
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I'm thinking this phone will at least have a 1.3mp front camera. It doesn't really make sense to downgrade a phone from the previous model (even though other specs are better, nothing should be downgraded). Also, we have to remember that the newest leaked pictures we got still might not be the final product. I could be wrong though, the One S has VGA.
One of the leaked pictures from android police showed a front facing vga camera, 1.3 would be better though!
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Except the inc 2 is still on their site. If they weren't carrying it they wouldn't have it on their site. Nice try though.
Correct and its discontinued. You can not and will not be able to order one and you have not been able to since the LC Lucid was released....try ordering one and see for yourself...nice try though...
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Yes it has VGA front camera, the phone has identical specs to the One S since its the same phone just different radio to comply with Verizon network.
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This thread seems fun... I'll be buying this phone regardless if it is 4" or 4.3", just wanted to critique the OP. I understand you are excited about your evidence, but its not really all that conclusive.

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4.3" screen evidence
  • Leaked pics are an exact match dimensionally to the One S
*** that is because they are both 16:9 resolution.

  • There is no screen manufacturer that produces 4" qHD AMOLED screens, not one.
*** this is where you need facts. I work for a company which designs and manufactures products specifically for individual customers, some of these customers being large corporations everyone in the world has heard of. These products cannot be found on any website or in any catalog, and only some of the employees from each company actually know we make them and who we sell them to. It is entirely possible that someone is making 4" screens specifically for this phone and it would be impossible to know for sure until the phone is released.

  • HTC One S and Inc. 4G are launching at the same time (April 25 and April 26) because its the same phone just on two different carriers (T mobile and Verizon)
*** April 26th is not a confirmed launch date. However, it is likely. And there is a really high probability that this is just a coincidence. The shell and camera lens placement are different on each phone, and the One S is all aluminum, the Inc4g appears plastic. As such, the internals will mount differently to the shell (tabs, screw holes, etc).

  • Verizon already released a 4" 4G phone 2 weeks ago to replace the Incredible 2......the LG Lucid
*** pretty irrelevant

  • HTC Rezound (current 4.3" screened offering) has been on a fire sale for $0.00 - $50
*** just making room for the next HTC flagship on Verizon.

4" screen evidence
  • Absolutely none
*** true. We just don't know.

If we were in a court of law....case closed.

*** go back to law school jk

So unless you are an industry insider, I'd say this is just another rumor resulting from pieced-together loose evidence. If you have some hard documented facts, I'd love to see them.
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I think Incredible4G has made a few screen names since he was banned, I'm guessing this is one of them.

The Inc4G being 4.3" would kinda make sense seeing has no top tier phone has had a 4" screen in quite some time. Only thing that doesn't make sense is putting out a phone with any spec that is worse than the 'outgoing' Rezound. Still, why would they phase out a phone that is barely 6 months old when the Inc2 has been around for years??
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I think Incredible4G has made a few screen names since he was banned, I'm guessing this is one of them.

The Inc4G being 4.3" would kinda make sense seeing has no top tier phone has had a 4" screen in quite some time. Only thing that doesn't make sense is putting out a phone with any spec that is worse than the 'outgoing' Rezound. Still, why would they phase out a phone that is barely 6 months old when the Inc2 has been around for years??
Because if this Is their version of the one s it will have the same specs as the one s. the inc 2 was only out for like a year. Android phones get moved out quick it's the nature of the beast with android.
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Well I know a 4.7 fits in my pocket fine so don't care if it's 4.0 or 4.3 inch. As long as it has rock solid features and performance this will likely be the phone I upgrade to next. I have held onto the Dink for nearly 2 years. Because it was a solid well performing phone. I want to replace with the same. Size not a major issue with me.
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I think the 4.3" is kind of like the goldilocks zone for screen sizes right now. With a range of 3.7"-5.3" out there, 4.3" seems like a conservative compromize. My current DInc2 with it's 4" has been a wonderful step up from the Eris and it's 3.2" but I think I'm ready for another small step up.
It is hard to go back down in size once you're used to something, so I think it prudent as an individual to make small steps up instead of leaping to a 4.7 screen.
Of course it is a very individualized preference and to each their own, but I am hopeful that this 4.3 speculation is correct
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The Dinc2 upon release, and for a long time afterwards, was the only phone with a 4.0"screen size that you could find...
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The Dinc2 upon release, and for a long time afterwards, was the only phone with a 4.0"screen size that you could find...
Really?! Wow!

Was that because there was just a void of 4", or was there very little larger too?
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