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Old July 30th, 2012, 12:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It seems that my wifi is sleeping even though I have it set not to. After a few minutes of my screen being off, I do not get emails, WhatsApp messages, etc. As soon as I hit the power button to bring the screen back on, though, they all immediately come in.

Anyone else see this or have any ideas?

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I was having that problem, too, particularly would notice when you wake up the phone fairly often it would take a few seconds to reconnect to WiFi as though it had been SLEEEEEPING, even though it's set to never sleep! I got fed up and did a factory reset, which seems to have fixed it. However, I'm actually exchanging mine because it continues to ignore my custom ringtones (on the stock email client). I have a refurbished one arriving tomorrow (uh oh...)

They're working on getting root back over at XDA and that's really the best solution to fix the inherent quirks that every android phone seems to have. BTW my boss got his phone the same day from the same vendor and his stock email client notifications are screwed up, too.....
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Didn't help......

EDIT: On the phone with HTC, apparently it's a feature. Argh......
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Spent the lion's share of the day trying to get to the bottom of this issue, and I think I have (though no fix). It seems like this is a Sense 4 issue, as there are threads over on xda with the same issue on an Evo 4G. Same issue. Push notifications are delayed when the phone is in sleep. It is extremely frustrating and HTC better be working on a fix.....
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Spent the lion's share of the day trying to get to the bottom of this issue, and I think I have (though no fix). It seems like this is a Sense 4 issue, as there are threads over on xda with the same issue on an Evo 4G. Same issue. Push notifications are delayed when the phone is in sleep. It is extremely frustrating and HTC better be working on a fix.....
I hear ya!!

Just as an update, I did get my refurbished phone the other day, and no surprise, it has the same issues with WiFi sleep and improper notifications sounds over the email client (when using Microsoft Exchange), so nothing has really changed for me. I had to do a battery pull this morning for it to even connect to my WiFi at work, so that really sucks
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You should contact HTC:

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If enough of us complain, maybe they'll fix it.
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First they call their crippled multi-tasking a "feature" and now wifi connection giong to sleep is a "feature." Man some of you guys must REALLY love Sense or REALLY hate Touchwiz or REALLY hate big screens to have chosen the Inc4g over the SGS3!
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First they call their crippled multi-tasking a "feature" and now wifi connection giong to sleep is a "feature." Man some of you guys must REALLY love Sense or REALLY hate Touchwiz or REALLY hate big screens to have chosen the Inc4g over the SGS3!
Speaking strictly for myself it's that we had such good luck with the OG Incredible (still a kickass phone, I gave it to my daughter- wish I had it back) and Incredible 2, we figured we couldn't go wrong with the latest and greatest. I'm sure a little CM9 will fix this mess- it's just a matter of when...

Plus the size of the Galaxy... I can see people from across the room holding these things and it just doesn't look right: bigger and bigger and bigger, some of us are a little leery of that trend, and we wanted to support something smaller.

Your point is well taken, however. Certainly on specs (and features I've been reading about) the Galaxy has us beat.
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First they call their crippled multi-tasking a "feature" and now wifi connection giong to sleep is a "feature." Man some of you guys must REALLY love Sense or REALLY hate Touchwiz or REALLY hate big screens to have chosen the Inc4g over the SGS3!
I have a really hard time with anything Samsung. Their smartphones just have such a track record of crap.

But yes, I am more than a little pissed off about the wifi sleep issue. The multitasking isn't an issue, though.

If HTC would fix the wifi sleep and reprogram the task switcher button to a menu button and eliminate the on-screen menu button, the Inc4G would be just about perfect.
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I have a really hard time with anything Samsung. Their smartphones just have such a track record of crap.

But yes, I am more than a little pissed off about the wifi sleep issue. The multitasking isn't an issue, though.

If HTC would fix the wifi sleep and reprogram the task switcher button to a menu button and eliminate the on-screen menu button, the Inc4G would be just about perfect.
I just don't get the track record of crap though. I can understand the galaxy nexus radio sucking, and some past Samsungs having horrible gps, but ALL of the SGS 2 variants are on ICS now, which is more than we can say for HTC/Motorola/Pantech/LG/Sony etc. Also, the GPS on the SGS 3 has been noted by many people (and I can add myself to the list) to lock on in a matter of 3 seconds or less and keep a strong lock using 10+ satellites.

If Samsung is dominating the handset sales numbers and the SGS2 and SGS3 are far and away the best sellers it seems to me like they would be excellent phones. I mean I don't think tens of millions of people would have bought a "track record of crap." Definitely some, because not all consumers are aware consumers, but tens of millions? Nahhhhh, it must be a good phone

The HTC Inc4g I think is better than any other android on VZW except for SGS3. But yeah, my wife LOVES the smaller 4" screen and if you want smaller it's really the only option. Plus we cancelled our home internet and just use VZW LTE Hotspot so she won't run into the wifi issue.
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Speaking strictly for myself it's that we had such good luck with the OG Incredible (still a kickass phone, I gave it to my daughter- wish I had it back) and Incredible 2, we figured we couldn't go wrong with the latest and greatest. I'm sure a little CM9 will fix this mess- it's just a matter of when...

Plus the size of the Galaxy... I can see people from across the room holding these things and it just doesn't look right: bigger and bigger and bigger, some of us are a little leery of that trend, and we wanted to support something smaller.

Your point is well taken, however. Certainly on specs (and features I've been reading about) the Galaxy has us beat.
Yeah I guess if I didn't watch Netflix, or read e-books or play a lot of games, I wouldn't be ok going to such a large screen size. But since that makes up a decent amount of my phone use, it is a welcome change from the iphones 3.5 to the SGS3s 4.8. But if i was mainly making calls and texting, I would want a much smaller form factor to be like a compact phone phone and not a multimedia device.
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BTW, I complained about this today. I think this problem is worse than people realize, basically makes push notifications totally unreliable. I also noticed I'm not automatically connecting to WiFi at all in places where I should. Hopefully some other people have noticed this by now, and they'll complain as well...
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With about ten million sold there should be an affordable ebay model to play with when the next latest and greatest comes along. For now, when I watch movies or net flix or sports I guess it will be the old fashioned way. My 50 inch flat screen, while reclining and using my 4g3 as a phone.
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it's called HTC smart sync, were working on incluing inot our rom a toggle to turn this off
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it's called HTC smart sync, were working on incluing inot our rom a toggle to turn this off
According to HTC, Smart Sync only kicks in after your phone has been asleep for 15 minutes between midnight and 7 am, yet our problem seems to occur throughout the day. Do you think they just went nuts with it on the Incredible? On pg 156 of the user's manual (the PDF) they talk about this, but the choices to modify the Peak Sync > Smart Sync as it says in the manual don't really exist.

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I don't think SmartSync is the problem. There's an app that turns that off. I installed the app but still have the problem. Of course, that assumes the app actually works which is hard to verify.
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As I posted in another thread:

I think I have solved the issue. There are apps in the Market that keep wifi alive while in sleep mode. I installed this one last night and my push notifications are suddenly real time again. It looks to be a pretty small impact on battery life, but I will monitor.

Of course, had HTC not decided to put the wifi to sleep 15 minutes after the screen goes off, this wouldn't be an issue......
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The only place I've ever seen the Smart Sync option was setting up a POP3/IMAP email account using the Mail app. It's one of the options for how often to sync mail.

Editorial: I've been dealing w/ HTC support a lot the past week trying to resolve an issue where stock mail app does not sync gmail. I have to say their techs are not very knowledable. I am not sure if they're just new to ICS, or new to this phone, or what. For example, one of the techs swore up and down that "push mail" was one of the sync frequency options using the stock mail app. I even sent a screen shot... and still got a response that the push mail setting does not exist :|
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I think I have solved the issue. There are apps in the Market that keep wifi alive while in sleep mode. I installed this one last night and my push notifications are suddenly real time again. It looks to be a pretty small impact on battery life, but I will monitor.

Of course, had HTC not decided to put the wifi to sleep 15 minutes after the screen goes off, this wouldn't be an issue......

I never asked you this, but are you using Microsoft Exchange? This is where most of my problems with this exist. I'm on vacation right now, so I'll report back later with that app you suggested, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the issues at least partially lie with HTC and Exchange. An obvious solution would have been to use a different client, like K-9 mail, but they don't have support for 2010 Exchange.
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The only place I've ever seen the Smart Sync option was setting up a POP3/IMAP email account using the Mail app. It's one of the options for how often to sync mail.

Editorial: I've been dealing w/ HTC support a lot the past week trying to resolve an issue where stock mail app does not sync gmail. I have to say their techs are not very knowledable. I am not sure if they're just new to ICS, or new to this phone, or what. For example, one of the techs swore up and down that "push mail" was one of the sync frequency options using the stock mail app. I even sent a screen shot... and still got a response that the push mail setting does not exist :|
To sum up my situation, is that I believe that Smart Sync has been activated on our phones, even though the choice isn't really there (at least when setting up an Exchange account), and furthermore that Smart Sync, which is supposed to only kick in during "deep sleep" (15+ minutes asleep) between the hours of midnight and 7am, instead it is doing it at all times of the day. Other people don't report having that problem (perhaps maybe their phones aren't asleep for 15+ minutes to give a true test), but this is my second phone, and they've both exhibited the same behavior
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I never asked you this, but are you using Microsoft Exchange? This is where most of my problems with this exist. I'm on vacation right now, so I'll report back later with that app you suggested, but I have this sneaking suspicion that the issues at least partially lie with HTC and Exchange. An obvious solution would have been to use a different client, like K-9 mail, but they don't have support for 2010 Exchange.
Yes, my email is Exchange based. And I am not using the stock email client, as it is nowhere near as powerful as I need/want. I am using TouchDown. I also see the same delayed notifications while using WhatsApp, however, so I am not 100% on board with this just being an HTC/Exchange issue.

By the way, day 2 with the app that prevents wifi sleep and push notifications are still perfect. Yesterday was an unusual battery usage day, so I cannot yet comment on the affect the app has on battery life. Today is pretty standard, so I should have a decent idea tonight.
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For some reason, this issue you were talking about never really sank in (to the brain).

I have issues with Wifi and Microsoft Exchange. And I'm really thinking it's MS Exchange because I had the OG Inc, Razr, Rezound, and now Inc 4g. ALL of the phones stop pushing Exhange notifications regardless if the wifi is asleep. Obviously it's not a Sense issue as I had a Razr for a few months and the problem continued.

If work email is important that time/day, I don't use wifi. It sucks, but I don't know if it's the email client on the phones end, or MS, or what.
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For some reason, this issue you were talking about never really sank in (to the brain).

I have issues with Wifi and Microsoft Exchange. And I'm really thinking it's MS Exchange because I had the OG Inc, Razr, Rezound, and now Inc 4g. ALL of the phones stop pushing Exhange notifications regardless if the wifi is asleep. Obviously it's not a Sense issue as I had a Razr for a few months and the problem continued.

If work email is important that time/day, I don't use wifi. It sucks, but I don't know if it's the email client on the phones end, or MS, or what.
I had no such issues on my Inc2.
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I had no such issues on my Inc2.
I don't know what to tell you then. What were you running on the Inc2 that is different than the phones I listed? Mine were all stock (just upgraded to whatever the companies put out). Were you unlocked, rooted, all that jazz? Did you load a different version of Android? Obviously something is going on from OG Inc to all the newer phones.
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Battery is definitely impacted by keeping the wifi out of sleep, but not enough to be a huge issue. My math says it is reducing the battery by maybe 5-10%. I will still easily make it from when I get up (7:00) to when I plug it in for the night (10:30-11:00). That's all I need.
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Yes, my email is Exchange based. And I am not using the stock email client, as it is nowhere near as powerful as I need/want. I am using TouchDown. I also see the same delayed notifications while using WhatsApp, however, so I am not 100% on board with this just being an HTC/Exchange issue.

By the way, day 2 with the app that prevents wifi sleep and push notifications are still perfect. Yesterday was an unusual battery usage day, so I cannot yet comment on the affect the app has on battery life. Today is pretty standard, so I should have a decent idea tonight.
Cool, do you have both boxes checked on that app's settings, or just the top one?
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For some reason, this issue you were talking about never really sank in (to the brain).

I have issues with Wifi and Microsoft Exchange. And I'm really thinking it's MS Exchange because I had the OG Inc, Razr, Rezound, and now Inc 4g. ALL of the phones stop pushing Exhange notifications regardless if the wifi is asleep. Obviously it's not a Sense issue as I had a Razr for a few months and the problem continued.

If work email is important that time/day, I don't use wifi. It sucks, but I don't know if it's the email client on the phones end, or MS, or what.
thanks for that, that thickens the plot somewhat, since I'm reduced to playing detective. All I know is that my OG Dinc, which was rooted and running CM7 never had an issue whatsoever with any of this. I'm thinking it's something to do with the way the stock email client interacts with MS Exchange while on WiFi, but we shall see...
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Cool, do you have both boxes checked on that app's settings, or just the top one?

Both, but that was just a guess.
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I'm interested in getting this phone on second line for my wife as it seems to be the only decent 4" android on VZW. But this issue seems odd and concerning to me.

WiFi shouldn't sleep when it's set to stay on always. So that's up to HTC to fix it. But even when it sleeps, 3G/4G radio should be enabled for it to maintain data connection and receive emails, refreshes, etc. So when WiFi sleeps, there is no data connection at all in standby? That seems strange as most android phones that I am aware switches to 3G/4G radio when WiFi is off.
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Correct, no data when WiFi goes into sleep. Push notifications are delayed, and an app relying on data (ScoreMobile, for example) won't update.

It's an issue, but the app I found seems to fix it. I'd rather it not be broken, of course, but for now at least I get my notifications on time.
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thanks for that, that thickens the plot somewhat, since I'm reduced to playing detective. All I know is that my OG Dinc, which was rooted and running CM7 never had an issue whatsoever with any of this. I'm thinking it's something to do with the way the stock email client interacts with MS Exchange while on WiFi, but we shall see...
I may have to go the route hilmar2k did with other apps to force notifications.
The one thing I thought was strange was that MS Exchange never pushes email on wifi. If i put my phone on wifi, forget notifications, I can't get email. Even if I hit refresh within the email (stock email client on Moto/HTC), nothing.

Do we think it's an Android issue? Or maybe just a MSE/wifi issue? Hmmm...would love to get this fixed. I may try what hilmar2k did, but I like getting 36 hours on a charge w/o wifi. lol.
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I may have to go the route hilmar2k did with other apps to force notifications.
The one thing I thought was strange was that MS Exchange never pushes email on wifi. If i put my phone on wifi, forget notifications, I can't get email. Even if I hit refresh within the email (stock email client on Moto/HTC), nothing.

Do we think it's an Android issue? Or maybe just a MSE/wifi issue? Hmmm...would love to get this fixed. I may try what hilmar2k did, but I like getting 36 hours on a charge w/o wifi. lol.
I had issues with Exchange and wifi with the stock email client on my Inc2. Oddly, it wasn't every wifi network. I finally switched to TouchDown (sooo much better) and that solved the issue.

By the way, you'll likely get even better battery life with wifi on. Wifi uses less power than cellular for data. When I was having the Exchange issues I had to turn wifi off until I figured it out and my battery life suffered tremendously. To be fair, that was on the Inc2, not the Inc4G, but I think the results would be similar.
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Correct, no data when WiFi goes into sleep. Push notifications are delayed, and an app relying on data (ScoreMobile, for example) won't update.

It's an issue, but the app I found seems to fix it. I'd rather it not be broken, of course, but for now at least I get my notifications on time.
I see. Wow that sucks. Then it seems to me HTC got two WiFi issues to fix. Wifi sleeping in standby is one thing, but not connecting with data radio when Wifi sleeps is another and even worse issue. I don't know any other android phone that doesn't switch to data radio when Wifi sleeps in standby. Hopefully HTC addresses this soon.
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I see. Wow that sucks. Then it seems to me HTC got two WiFi issues to fix. Wifi sleeping in standby is one thing, but not connecting with data radio when Wifi sleeps is another and even worse issue. I don't know any other android phone that doesn't switch to data radio when Wifi sleeps in standby. Hopefully HTC addresses this soon.
Hold on a second, if you set keep wifi on during sleep to "Never", the phone will switch over to cellular for data. The phone isn't supposed to switch over to cellular when you have it set to "Always", it's supposed to keep wifi from sleeping. The issue is it isn't. One problem, not two.
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Hold on a second, if you set keep wifi on during sleep to "Never", the phone will switch over to cellular for data. The phone isn't supposed to switch over to cellular when you have it set to "Always", it's supposed to keep wifi from sleeping. The issue is it isn't. One problem, not two.
I see. Then it's better than what I was worried.
But even when it's set to keep Wifi on always, it should switch over to cell data radio when you leave the Wifi connection area saved in phone. Is that working fine?
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I see. Then it's better than what I was worried.
But even when it's set to keep Wifi on always, it should switch over to cell data radio when you leave the Wifi connection area saved in phone. Is that working fine?
Yup.
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I have an Evo LTE. This issue seems to affect the entire HTC One line. Trying to compile a list of complaints from across the web. See here:
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I have an Evo LTE. This issue seems to affect the entire HTC One line. Trying to compile a list of complaints from across the web. See here:
Re: Notifications Late on Wifi when screen is off. FIX THIS HTC!!! - HTC EVO
The app I linked to in post #17 in this thread seems to solve the issue. HTC still needs to fix it, and the app is just a band-aid, but for now, it's a functional band-aid....
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The app I linked to in post #17 in this thread seems to solve the issue. HTC still needs to fix it, and the app is just a band-aid, but for now, it's a functional band-aid....
I have started to test that app, and so far it is working, but I think it is because it keeps the phone in a partial wake lock. I'm using better battery stats to monitor wake locks, and that app has already #1 on the list of wake lock time. It also takes up 5MB of RAM as a running process. I'll see how battery life holds up. It may not be any better than checking the "best wifi performance" option in the advanced wifi settings. I've tested that option for several days, and the battery drain while sleeping is significant. If you don't even use the phone all day, you'll still lose around 60% of your battery.
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I have started to test that app, and so far it is working, but I think it is because it keeps the phone in a partial wake lock. I'm using better battery stats to monitor wake locks, and that app has already #1 on the list of wake lock time. It also takes up 5MB of RAM as a running process. I'll see how battery life holds up. It may not be any better than checking the "best wifi performance" option in the advanced wifi settings. I've tested that option for several days, and the battery drain while sleeping is significant. If you don't even use the phone all day, you'll still lose around 60% of your battery.
Battery drain with it is fairly minimal. Noticeable, but I don't think anywhere near what "best wifi..." would be. I had that option enabled for a day on my Inc2, and the battery life was horrendous. I am not seeing that kind of hit to battery life with the app running.

I still end my day at 40%+ battery after 15+ hours off the charger.
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Battery drain with it is fairly minimal. Noticeable, but I don't think anywhere near what "best wifi..." would be. I had that option enabled for a day on my Inc2, and the battery life was horrendous. I am not seeing that kind of hit to battery life with the app running.

I still end my day at 40%+ battery after 15+ hours off the charger.
Well, the good news is that it doesn't seem to be completely draining my battery. I had it running overnight and only lost 3%. Also, only lost 23% so far today after 8 hours. I decided on a different app. It explains what all the options are for trying to keep wifi alive. Workaround 2 is a partial wakelock like the app you suggested. Obviously your results won't match mine since I have an Evo LTE. I really hope they fix this in a future update.

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Well, the good news is that it doesn't seem to be completely draining my battery. I had it running overnight and only lost 3%. Also, only lost 23% so far today after 8 hours. I decided on a different app. It explains what all the options are for trying to keep wifi alive. Workaround 2 is a partial wakelock like the app you suggested. Obviously your results won't match mine since I have an Evo LTE. I really hope they fix this in a future update.

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What about that app do you like better than the one I am using?
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What about that app do you like better than the one I am using?
I just liked that it is a little more transparent as to what it is doing in order to keep wifi awake. However, I think I finally realized what that 2nd checkbox is for on the REGPON app. It actually stops the wakelock service whenever you turn your wifi off. I may give that one a try for a while and see if there's any difference.
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I just liked that it is a little more transparent as to what it is doing in order to keep wifi awake. However, I think I finally realized what that 2nd checkbox is for on the REGPON app. It actually stops the wakelock service whenever you turn your wifi off. I may give that one a try for a while and see if there's any difference.
Should I have both boxes checked (using REGPON app)? Not sure about the whole meaning of the Wakelock thing?
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Should I have both boxes checked (using REGPON app)? Not sure about the whole meaning of the Wakelock thing?
Yes, I would check both. The first one is necessary to actually start the process that keeps wifi alive, and the second is optional, but It is nice that it stops the process when you turn wifi off.

A wakelock is something that keeps your phone from going into deep sleep. Usually it will cause a significant battery drain, but after testing these, I still get good battery life.
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What about that app do you like better than the one I am using?
One thing I just discovered is that the REGPON app has to be restarted after a reboot, while the Wifi Keep Alive app will restart on its own after a reboot.
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Not for me it doesn't.
Hmm, it does restart on its own, just not as fast. I also noticed it stops the wake lock service when it's not connected to wifi, so I think it's a keeper.
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Hmm, it does restart on its own, just not as fast. I also noticed it stops the wake lock service when it's not connected to wifi, so I think it's a keeper.
After reading this, I checked my REGON app and both boxes were un-checked (for no apparent reason other than reboots), so there is definitely a problem there. I will try the other app. Thanks for staying on top of this, guys.

This is definitely a quirky phone for me thus far, not as good as my experience with the OG Dinc, quite frankly. Some apps just don't seem to work on ICS very well. And even simple little things, like it being tough to see if boxes are checked, or the green syncing icon, or the bold font on the stock text message app and email apps (to signify unread or not) are kind of aggravating. I'm aware there are third party apps that are better and would take care of these problems. But I'm still hoping for root to come, and I know a factory reset would then be on the way, so I'm kind of just sticking with Sense for now, knowing I'll be exploring in the future. The thing is, once we have root and can use NAND backup/restore, a factory reset is a piece of cake. Now it's a pain in the arse.
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