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Old June 30th, 2010, 04:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Money 720p video/3g hot spot and froyo soon
Little birdie told me about verizon talking about releasing froyo soon but before that an ota for 720p video and 3g hot spot. Just telling you what I heard from verizon/htc... that a birdie overheard

EDIT: HTC first to get froyo, mobile hot spot is $20 a month

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Care to elaborate on this "little birdie?" Are we talking about a CSR from VZW? Someone higher up? A rep from HTC?
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Can't elaborate other than he/ she was in a Verizon Htc meeting. Enough said
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Can't elaborate other than he/ she was in a Verizon Htc meeting. Enough said
Not really.
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Then don't believe it I don't care. I'm not disproving Jesus here. Its phone software. Very realistic stuff.
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Little birdie better be right dammit! I would love to see froyo and the other functions availible to us before the DX users. And FWIW 06stang isn't a troll and at the same time stang you should have seen that coming with this thread....
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Then don't believe it I don't care. I'm not disproving Jesus here. Its phone software. Very realistic stuff.
the burden of proof is on Jesus anyway
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Thanks, goat. I got some little green android guy keychains from the meeting too. And a red htc metal bottle opener.
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i love the drama on this thread lol.... but i still love you guys

edit: i want one
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I hope so... Especially on the video. The sensor is certainly capable.

I want facial recognition like the EVO's have.
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Thanks, goat. I got some little green android guy keychains from the meeting too. And a red htc metal bottle opener.
You know people are now going to ask for pics of those things... reminds me of a certain man from montana and a little box he once saw...
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Thanks, goat. I got some little green android guy keychains from the meeting too. And a red htc metal bottle opener.
Feeling generous?? Id love to have an android key chain...
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Ill take pics. Not a big deal. Also Mobile Hot Spot cost $20/month
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Little birdie better be right dammit! I would love to see froyo and the other functions availible to us before the DX users. And FWIW 06stang isn't a troll and at the same time stang you should have seen that coming with this thread....
ok, I know that it really doesn't effect me, but I want it before the DX'ers. Shove it in there faces.
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No sorry. Its mine. I have an incredible Incredible lanyard with your name on it though

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Thanks, goat. I got some little green android guy keychains from the meeting too. And a red htc metal bottle opener.
Hey, I believe you. Do not pay attention to those personas.

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i believe it too... and hopefully it doesnt suck to bad when you record with it...
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How soon is soon, I wonder. And I hope they manage to fix issues some ppl are experiencing before adding the gee wiz stuff.
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How soon is soon, I wonder. And I hope they manage to fix issues some ppl are experiencing before adding the gee wiz stuff.
I asked the same thing. I asked about the rumored ota to fix signal and voice issues and the person didn't know. Maybe its rolled up in it.
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Why not just give us 720p from the beginning, if it can be activated with an update?
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That would be nice
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720p for sure: that is the only thing, other than battery, that I wish was better on this phone. Other than that it's awesome. Can't wait for Froyo.
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Why not just give us 720p from the beginning, if it can be activated with an update?
Two reasons:
1) The EVO debuted 720p and it was probably an agreement with Sprint to be first with this feature on an htc phone.
2) The final software build for the Incredible was at the end of april when the Evo and its software was still in the test phase. The feature may not have been ready for the market when the Incredible was released.
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I can't wait for the forward facing camera to be activated via a otap
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Do people really pay another $20 a month for a hot spot, on top of the at least $90 a month for the service/data plan?!

Sure, id love to have the mobile hot spot, but ill be damned if im going to pay $20 a month for it. If my bill is already over a hundred w/ taxes, I wouldnt pay an extra $10 for it.
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Do people really pay another $20 a month for a hot spot, on top of the at least $90 a month for the service/data plan?!

Sure, id love to have the mobile hot spot, but ill be damned if im going to pay $20 a month for it. If my bill is already over a hundred w/ taxes, I wouldnt pay an extra $10 for it.
$90? What are you talking about? The minimum you'd pay for this phone is $39.99 (450 min. voice plan) + $29.99 (data plan) = 69.98 + taxes...
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and another "birdy" being BGR and/or Pocketnow reported Verizon may drop Incredible due to lack of availability...
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so froyo update is with conjuction with the 720p? that would be great. i hope it's by fall? but then again, i just want an easier way to root so i can get wifi tether.
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and another "birdy" being BGR and/or Pocketnow reported Verizon may drop Incredible due to lack of availability...
And another "birdy" told me that each incredible is actually made of gold stolen by free masons from various European monarchies.
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and another "birdy" told me that each incredible is actually made of gold stolen by free masons from various european monarchies.
I KNEW it!!!!
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Will the OTA fix the unresponsive screen issue found in some Incredibles?
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how soon would be first? and didnt HTC already say the other Euro HTC phones where getting 2.2 first?
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say again.?
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Ummm, there isn't a forward facing camera on the Inc.
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Hahaha. Sorry but the sarcasm in the original post about the camera made me laugh...and so did the picture.
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You'd be surprised of how many posts people have made thinking the proximity sensor is a front camera...
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No, I wouldn't.

Looking forward to the updates and the inevitable screaming when people find out that the frame rate on the 720p video makes it worthless.
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Looking forward to the updates and the inevitable screaming when people find out that the frame rate on the 720p video makes it worthless.
720p is within the realm of possibility but if it is anything like the EVO 4G, I don't want it- horrible bit-rate, horrible codec, horrible audio.
They should either do it right or don't do it at all. If it can't be as close as the iPhone 4, then don't even bother.

It definitely has the hardware but if it isn't implemented correctly, it will be horrible. Heck, I only get 15-22 fps on our incredible at 800x480 in low-light. I still get the low 9khz audio frequency.


The DINC uses the same Ominvision sensor as the EVO (http://www.ovt.com/download_document.php?type=sensor&sensorid=69).
Omnivision's spec state it can do 1080p. 720p is doable with the right camera app, the right bitrate, the right codec, and the right write-speed.


When I plugged my DINC into the debugger, all I see are API calls to a Qualcomm camera drivers when the camera is on.
This explains why the video/photos are horrible on both the DINC and EVO.
HTC's Droid Incredible doesn't use a Qualcomm sensor. They use a Omnivision sensor.

So what does that tell me? They didn't write an optimized camera app for the sensor. They're using a generic driver for their camera app.
When I plug in a Motorola Droid or any other Android phone, I see the right drivers being loaded up within their respective camera apps.
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LOL. I will believe the lil birdie when I see the OTA update message on my phone.
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720p is within the realm of possibility but if it is anything like the EVO 4G, I don't want it- horrible bit-rate, horrible codec, horrible audio.
They should either do it right or don't do it at all. If it can't be as close as the iPhone 4, then don't even bother.

It definitely has the hardware but if it isn't implemented correctly, it will be horrible. Heck, I only get 15-22 fps on our incredible at 800x480 in low-light. I still get the low 9khz audio frequency.


The DINC uses the same Ominvision sensor as the EVO (http://www.ovt.com/download_document.php?type=sensor&sensorid=69).
Omnivision's spec state it can do 1080p. 720p is doable with the right camera app, the right bitrate, the right codec, and the right write-speed.


When I plugged my DINC into the debugger, all I see are API calls to a Qualcomm camera drivers when the camera is on.
This explains why the video/photos are horrible on both the DINC and EVO.
HTC's Droid Incredible doesn't use a Qualcomm sensor. They use a Omnivision sensor.

So what does that tell me? They didn't write an optimized camera app for the sensor. They're using a generic driver for their camera app.
When I plug in a Motorola Droid or any other Android phone, I see the right drivers being loaded up within their respective camera apps.
Now that's a great explanation, much appreciated. It's always nice to read comments like this.
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The DINC uses the same Ominvision sensor as the EVO (http://www.ovt.com/download_document.php?type=sensor&sensorid=69).
Omnivision's spec state it can do 1080p. 720p is doable with the right camera app, the right bitrate, the right codec, and the right write-speed.
That spec sheet makes me mad. 1080p at 30FPS? 720p at 60FPS? And at 800x480 it barely pushes a decent frame rate? C'mon HTC! Make use of the hardware we paid for!
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Maybe the 720p video upgrade is also a cover for releasing the right driver.
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Little birdie told me about verizon talking about releasing froyo soon but before that an ota for 720p video and 3g hot spot. Just telling you what I heard from verizon/htc... that a birdie overheard

EDIT: HTC first to get froyo, mobile hot spot is $20 a month
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Ill take pics. Not a big deal. Also Mobile Hot Spot cost $20/month
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LOL! $20 for 3G hot spot. This made my day! FU Verizon!
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