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Old September 13th, 2011, 07:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Gingerbread battery life

Anyone else notice their battery life improved with Gingerbread? Mine is significantly better. I'm off the charger ~20 hours and still at 63% battery life having used the phone the same way I have been for the past year.

If I look at what has been using the battery, the trend is also different. Usually cell standby and phone idle are at the top of the list being much higher than the rest. Now display is using the most battery.

Display 39%, cell standby 27%, phone idle 24%, maps 8%, android OS 2%

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Mine is actually worse. I'm contemplating a phone reset.
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Old September 13th, 2011, 10:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Mine's better as well. I am rooted and have the official OTA with no tweaks and while I don't have the success the OP has, it is noticeably better.
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Mine is a lot better. By a lot I mean at the end of the day I still have over 40% as I used to have 20-25%. I did a full factory reset so it could have been something I installed on Froyo that has not been re-installed on GB.
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I am rooted with the OTA ROM from XDA and I have no difference. Don't know if that is because the ROM doesn't include the Kernel?? Not sure..
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Mine is actually worse. I'm contemplating a phone reset.

You can also install system panel, and see if any apps seem to be using too much cpu. And if they are try uninstalling/reinstalling them.
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Any other services, etc. that I should turn off? Thanks.
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Battery life is a lot better!
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I did a full factory reset so it could have been something I installed on Froyo that has not been re-installed on GB.
^ This.

We used to call it the "placebo effect" back in the days of WinMo5 and 6. A new ROM often, if you do a full wipe, has the effect of making the phone perform better not because it's a better ROM, but because you cleaned all the crap off the phone that was slowing it down under the old ROM. Just something to keep in mind.

Seriously, most battery life issues are not caused by the ROM, but by apps installed after the phone is initialized. You can't really judge battery life until you've been running the same configuration for a couple of weeks.
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Old September 16th, 2011, 07:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
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^ This.

We used to call it the "placebo effect" back in the days of WinMo5 and 6. A new ROM often, if you do a full wipe, has the effect of making the phone perform better not because it's a better ROM, but because you cleaned all the crap off the phone that was slowing it down under the old ROM. Just something to keep in mind.

Seriously, most battery life issues are not caused by the ROM, but by apps installed after the phone is initialized. You can't really judge battery life until you've been running the same configuration for a couple of weeks.
I have to respectfully disagree with you answerman. Perhaps if you said, reload the same OS you were using, but upgrading? No. In my case, I had a backup of my apps before the upgrade. I checked after the upgrade, no apps were lost.

It makes perfect sense the new OS has many battery life improvements. Also, my radio was upgraded as well so it's possible there is less battery drain there as well.
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I have to respectfully disagree with you answerman. Perhaps if you said, reload the same OS you were using, but upgrading? No. In my case, I had a backup of my apps before the upgrade. I checked after the upgrade, no apps were lost.

It makes perfect sense the new OS has many battery life improvements. Also, my radio was upgraded as well so it's possible there is less battery drain there as well.
Oh, don't get me wrong. Gingerbread (and the new kernel and radio) do have some improvements that can improve battery life. How significant of an increase is going to vary from one user to another (especially in the case of the radio, which is very region specific... a radio that works well in the Northeast may completely suck wind in the Midwest).

Yes, it is a little better. However, my concern is with people thinking that the Gingerbread OTA is going to take their Incredible which had a battery life of 10 hours under Froyo and turn it into a 48 hour wondermachine.

My personal experience (and admittedly I'm on the lighter side of the user profile): under stock but rooted Froyo, I was getting about 56 hours on a charge. Under Nils Business Gingersense (which is the same version of Android as the OTA) I'm getting about 58 hours. Not enough of a change in my book to believe it's all due to switching to Gingerbread.

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I work in a rare Verizon dead zone and with froyo I'd have to charge my phone after 9 hours. Now, rooted with gb ota, otherwise with same config I made it through a 24 hour shift and I'm just over 50%. For me it was a huge change. My feeling is the new radio for some reason doesn't waste as much energy searching for a signal. Used to be 30% or higher time without signal and now it's single digits.
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My phone just updated yesterday. It was plugged in to the charger all night, unplugged at 8 this morning. I checked the battery thing and it said the Android OS was using 71% of the battery life. It's been less than 7 hours and my battery is already under 10%. This is ridiculous.
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My phone just updated yesterday. It was plugged in to the charger all night, unplugged at 8 this morning. I checked the battery thing and it said the Android OS was using 71% of the battery life. It's been less than 7 hours and my battery is already under 10%. This is ridiculous.
The battery statistics take a few charge cycles to become accurate after an update. you can install System Panel (on the market) or something similar to try and find if something is using an aberrantly high amount of CPU or network.

EDIT: case in point, I just flashed a new version of my ROM this morning. My phone has been at 5% battery for 6 hours now. Give it a couple days, and you can speed/improve the process by calibrating the battery (run the battery down COMPLETELY, till it dies. I usually then boot it into recovery and let it sit there till it dies again but that is probably unnecessary. Then let the phone charge COMPLETELy, leaving it on the charger preferably turned off for something like 6-12 hours.)
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So far my battery life is better. And no issues so far so content till I can get me some ICS. LOL
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I'm also on the better battery team. And like OP, cell standby and phone idle used to use the most battery but no longer do.
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I only have had the update for a day, and it is better. About 8 hours so far and at 75% Not as good as some are showing, but better than I usually have
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Holy sh*tballs my battery life has doubled. I forgot to charge my phone last night, as I usually do, and it still has about 85% left.

It used to be nearly dead in the morning if I forgot to charge it.

I did have it plugged in yesterday evening while I did my factory reset and loading the updates etc, but the uptime is over 11 hours right now.

My phone is like a brand new phone, so I put a new cover on it and this will keep me from getting a new one.
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I was wondering if it was a fluke after the first update but even with the second one much better battery life. Happy for now.
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My wife got both the updates yesterday so she is on ver 4.08.605.2 and has been noticing lousy battery life.

I just checked....and see that DIALER has been using 31 % which sounds kinda strange to me.

I did a battery pull......and reset the uptime clock which is now 00.04.17.....when I go to battery use, however, up top it shows......13h 24m 41s on battery..... WTF???

Dialer still shows at 31 %

Also....seems very slow to charge.
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I've only had the update for a couple of days and the battery life seems a bit better but I think I'll wait a week or so before I make any real judgements.

The thing that I don't like is I no longer have the option to shut down the phone completely and leave it off so that I can bump charge in the morning without pulling the battery. The new Power Off option just puts the phone to sleep and that's why it starts up so quickly. But the charging circuit in the software is still active in the shutdown mode and doesn't allow the battery to fully charge as it did before the updates - the LED stays green indicating a full charge. Bump charging gave me an added 6 to 8 hours of up time on average. So now I have to remove the Inc from its case, pull the back off and pull the battery in order to bump charge. Kind of a PITA.
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I've only had the update for a couple of days and the battery life seems a bit better but I think I'll wait a week or so before I make any real judgements.

The thing that I don't like is I no longer have the option to shut down the phone completely and leave it off so that I can bump charge in the morning without pulling the battery. The new Power Off option just puts the phone to sleep and that's why it starts up so quickly. But the charging circuit in the software is still active in the shutdown mode and doesn't allow the battery to fully charge as it did before the updates - the LED stays green indicating a full charge. Bump charging gave me an added 6 to 8 hours of up time on average. So now I have to remove the Inc from its case, pull the back off and pull the battery in order to bump charge. Kind of a PITA.
turn off fast boot...then it will shut down like normal.
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turn off fast boot...then it will shut down like normal.
where do i turn off fast boot?

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On my ROM it's under menu> settings> manage applications.
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My battery life is worse. It drops within 10 minutes. I did notice it will not bump charge anymore.
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Parkschr as euph_22 pointed out, it's under menu> settings> manage applications.
Don't know if you caught that but wanted to point it out just in case
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I am rooted with the OTA ROM from XDA and I have no difference. Don't know if that is because the ROM doesn't include the Kernel?? Not sure..

Would someone mind explaining this to me? I am rooted and just installed the Gingerbread ROM. Apparently, doing so doesn't fully bring the phone up to date? What are the kernel and the radio, and should I be doing something else to get those updated?
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I got the notification that a system update was available (again) on Saturday morning along with a almost dead battery. I attempted to download it and appeared to work until it stayed on the rebooting screen. I ended up stopping it. Well fastforwarding to this morning I wake up to find another almost dead battery. This has become unacceptable and now I'm scrambling to find a solution. Has anyone experienced is in correlation to the recent update. I'm unable to get to 4.08. I'm stuck on 4.06.
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I got the notification that a system update was available (again) on Saturday morning along with a almost dead battery. I attempted to download it and appeared to work until it stayed on the rebooting screen. I ended up stopping it. Well fastforwarding to this morning I wake up to find another almost dead battery. This has become unacceptable and now I'm scrambling to find a solution. Has anyone experienced is in correlation to the recent update. I'm unable to get to 4.08. I'm stuck on 4.06.
Go to this thread to get the 4.08 update tricks....scroll down to the last couple of pages in the thread for the method on how to get the update to resend.

Gingerbread 2.3 was here, then gone, now it's back

My wife had terrible battery life AFTER getting the update.....a factory reset fixed the problem and now it's better than ever.
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Does turning off 4G and using wifi pull less battery juice or the same as it would if I just left the 4G on and didn't use wifi?
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Does turning off 4G and using wifi pull less battery juice or the same as it would if I just left the 4G on and didn't use wifi?
Wifi should use less battery, but you probably should ask the Samsung S2 forum. They would know significantly more about that.
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Go to this thread to get the 4.08 update tricks....scroll down to the last couple of pages in the thread for the method on how to get the update to resend.

Gingerbread 2.3 was here, then gone, now it's back

My wife had terrible battery life AFTER getting the update.....a factory reset fixed the problem and now it's better than ever.
I was hoping to avoid a factory reset. I guess I'm looking for a silver bullet but I'm afraid I'm SOL and will have to do the damn Factory reset. I'm ready to drop this phone for the Nexus. Any day Verizon......
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I was hoping to avoid a factory reset. I guess I'm looking for a silver bullet but I'm afraid I'm SOL and will have to do the damn Factory reset. I'm ready to drop this phone for the Nexus. Any day Verizon......
I don't know if this helps but there is an app called Juice Defender. I found it seems to help out a bit as far as battery life.
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Well I took the plunge and did a factory reset. I am now on 4.08. Woke up to a 33% battery after charging full before I went to bed. Battery use shows the screen using 50%, wifi at 10% and everything else below 10%. Is it the screen that is killing my battery? I have if off at night.... Could it be the battery itself(newer aftermarket 1900 battery)? I'm exploring the battery issue. I'm switching out to the original battery tonight and will use it over night and see what I wake up to. I've only downloaded certain apps since the factory reset that I use all the time like launcher x pro, app organizer and widget locker. That's where I'm at. It's either the battery itself or one of those apps staying awake. Or something else I have no idea about. Guess I'll see tomorrow morning.
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Since I got my tablet I don't use my DInc nearly as much as I used to doing non-phone stuff, but it can easily go three days without a recharge. I leave bluetooth and wifi on at all times. So while I'm not a power user on it, I find the battery life to be quite acceptable.
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Battery life has dropped a bit since the GB update. Biggest culprit seems to be Facebook (avg - 27%). Not rooted and auto-sync for FB is turned off. I have uninstalled it and reinstalled, all with no change.

Any ideas? Is there a FB setting I am missing? Thanks
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Any chance those of you with outstanding up-times could give us with less-than-desirable battery life the key to a long lasting battery?

Are your settings different then mine in such a drastic way? Is it mainly the way I use my phone?

I can only get, at best, 20 hours out of my Inc. I'd love to learn the way of long lasting battery!

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bcram, welcome to the forum.
Here are my basic settings.

Widgets in use:
BattStat
Weatherbug, set to update every hour.

Bluetooth - always on
WiFi Sleep Policy - never (I'm nearly always in a known WiFi spot, so this won't spend much time 'hunting', which I assume draws more battery than actually being connected)
Brightness - automatic (I'm generally indoors, so no need for a super bright display, typically it's at about 40% brightness).

In my experience active wallpapers are a HUGE battery drain, and some widgets are also. If your home screen is loaded with widgets, or you have widget(s) that update often try backing off on them.

I've used my phone for about 1.5 hours today doing various things and it's at 73% charge. This is fairly normal usage for me. If I were to not use it for the rest of the night it would lose another 3-5% or so by morning. At that rate I can go two more days and still have some charge remaining. In reality I wouldn't try for the third day on a single charge, I always plug it any night when it's around 50% (or less). Though when it's at 70-ish % at the end of the day, like today, I may or may not plug it in.

Edit: I used my phone last night for another 15 minutes or so, for email and texting. When I woke up this morning it showed a 64% charge.
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I'm so happy with my battery life and phone overall, I'm not getting a new phone for awhile even though I just became eligible.

Instead, I just got a Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 tablet. It's fun to read while I ride the train to work, plus our trains have free wifi.
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Battery life has dropped a bit since the GB update. Biggest culprit seems to be Facebook (avg - 27%). Not rooted and auto-sync for FB is turned off. I have uninstalled it and reinstalled, all with no change.

Any ideas? Is there a FB setting I am missing? Thanks
Not sure what I did, but my battery life is now the best it has ever been. Been awake for 8 hours and through normal use, sitting at 81%. Before GB, I'd be in the mid 60's. Fbook is no longer hogging the battery.

Also, turned off the fast boot so I can bump charge in the AM to 100%.
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So I've had the OTA gingerbread for awhile now and I can also report that my battery life is better, I'd say about 20-25% better than when I had Froyo. With the same pattern of daily use, by the end of the day I still have several bars of green where with Froyo I was starting to get yellow bars.

Most of all, I have noticed that my phone is so much snapier and actually quite fast at browsing, sometimes it feels like I have 4g speed but I know that's not the case, still going to the same webpages on my phone are alot quicker with gingerbread than when I had Froyo.

This will hold me out until the iphone 5 is released next year. I admit the original incredible has been good to me. The screen clarity is still amazing to me.
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I feel that battery life is better too.
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Has anyone noticed battery drain when leaving wifi on overnight? This has happened three times now. My internet connection at the house is solid so I'm not concerned there. More concerned with the GB update no playing well with wifi. Staying on 3g there are no problems, only when on wifi. This started after I factory reset for GB.
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I usually am on WiFi at home, and I haven't had that problem. Just one data point.
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