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Old October 25th, 2011, 07:20 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Verizon is letting me get an early upgrade for a $20 fee, and they are letting me keep my unlimited data plan. Too bad they shortened the test drive period to 2 weeks.

A coworker just got the iPhone 4S, and it works flawlessly. The selling point for me was the ability to view ICS file attachments (calendar meeting invitations) in e-mail, and the ability to add them to my calendar WITHOUT having exchange e-mail. Now I know why Apple has coined the slogan "it just works" because it does just that! That's been my one true pet-peeve about the Incredible... that, and having to perform factory resets three times over the last 18 months. Siri is a very handy (and very cool) tool as well.

I have loved the Incredible, she's been a good phone for me. I've decided that it's time to give the iPhone a test run when it arrives next Monday.

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Old October 26th, 2011, 11:30 AM   #52 (permalink)
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I may be leaving the DInc earlier than I thought. I've been been eyeballing the DInc 2 and have fondled it a few times in the store now. I may be ready to take our relationship to the next step. It seems, from what I've read, to be a refresh/upgrade of the DInc. Has the front facing camera that I like and runs faster than the original DInc. I don't need a dual-core processor and I still think 4G is kind of half-baked at this point. I can snag a DInc 2 off ebay for $200 and hold on to my upgrade until 4G is more stable, the 4G phones get decent battery life and NFC is more widely available. The slightly bigger size might help me make piece with the idea that my next phone in a year or so will probably have a 6-7" screen and I'll need a personal assistance to carry it around for me and hold it while I dial. It's a slight upgrade, but if I can get it without burning an upgrade and wait until there's actually a handset I'm interested in it, I'm ok with that. If I get a year and a half of use out of the DInc 2 I'll be happy.
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I'm with many of the people here: No plans to "upgrade" until there's a worthy model. That means a reasonably sized screen (4"), NFC chip, 4G, solid battery life, solid build quality, etc. I haven't seen anything yet for Verizon that fills that ticket. The GSII is the closest but it's not available on Big Red.

Basically, take the Droid RAZR w/ motorola build quality, drop the screen size a bit, add an NFC chip, and let me turn off Blur.
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I'm with many of the people here: No plans to "upgrade" until there's a worthy model. That means a reasonably sized screen (4"), NFC chip, 4G, solid battery life, solid build quality, etc. I haven't seen anything yet for Verizon that fills that ticket. The GSII is the closest but it's not available on Big Red.

Basically, take the Droid RAZR w/ motorola build quality, drop the screen size a bit, add an NFC chip, and let me turn off Blur.
I need a removable battery and an SD card as well.
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Old October 27th, 2011, 03:03 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I absolutely would never consider a smartphone that didn't have a removable battery.
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DInc2 comes in tomorrow. Plan on performing a final backup of everything on the DInc using TB, then, once the SD card is transferred to the new phone, it will be dead. As my major gripe with it is the lack of battery life my plan is to simply leave it turned on until the battery dies and it fades to black for the last time. Seems poetic somehow.
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DInc2 comes in tomorrow. Plan on performing a final backup of everything on the DInc using TB, then, once the SD card is transferred to the new phone, it will be dead. As my major gripe with it is the lack of battery life my plan is to simply leave it turned on until the battery dies and it fades to black for the last time. Seems poetic somehow.

Put it's death on YouTube, we'll start a trend of Droid incredible snuff films.
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Old October 30th, 2011, 12:32 PM   #58 (permalink)
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My DInc won't die. The replacement came in and I couldn't get it activated. Long, long, long story short the phone had been stolen, but never reported stolen. It was still on someone's account and they were still paying for it.
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Goodbye? I plan to upgrade my wife's flip phone to a smartphone with ICS on it. Don't know what yet but when I do (after the first of the year) I will be getting rid of her flip phone and giving her the INC. So it is not good bye for me entirely. Just a "Hello" from my wife.
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I was feeling some interest in the Galaxy Nexus until reading that it won't have an SD slot. Nothing else out there really seems like that much of an upgrade, so I guess I'll be hanging onto the DInc for a while. With CM7 nightlies it's like having a new phone every few days anyway.

PS. Anybody know what the prospects are for ICS on the DInc? I mean via Cyanogenmod - I'm sure we won't get it officially.
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I was feeling some interest in the Galaxy Nexus until reading that it won't have an SD slot. Nothing else out there really seems like that much of an upgrade, so I guess I'll be hanging onto the DInc for a while. With CM7 nightlies it's like having a new phone every few days anyway.

PS. Anybody know what the prospects are for ICS on the DInc? I mean via Cyanogenmod - I'm sure we won't get it officially.
I'm very confident will get it, the Dinc is based on a popular platform, and it shouldn't be that different porting AOSP (stock android from source code) ICS than it was porting AOSP Gingerbread.
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I'm very confident will get it, the Dinc is based on a popular platform, and it shouldn't be that different porting AOSP (stock android from source code) ICS than it was porting AOSP Gingerbread.

I believe miui will be moving to ics and it.would be shocking if cm7 didn't have it running.on inc first
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 12:40 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Put it's death on YouTube, we'll start a trend of Droid incredible snuff films.
When I read this I pictured...

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Love my Inc but time to move on to something better. Galaxy Nexus here I come.
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Currently trying to get myself and my wife on a family plan. For awhile now I've had Verizon (coverage) and she's had AT&T (iPhone). First, we tried Verizon, but they botched it. Tomorrow will be their last chance to fix their mistake. If they fix it, we stay and I get a Galaxy Nexus. If they fail to fix it, we go to AT&T (kept her line open until we decide) and I purchase and unlocked Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Nexus.
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Finally got my DInc2 in. Spent 5 hours yesterday getting it set up, updated (came out of the box w/Froyo on it), rooted, backup restored and then tweaking all the things that you can't restore from backup (BT pairings, wifi setup, screen lock, display, etc.....) So this is my first day with it. I'm torn at the moment. I really have mixed feelings about the large size. At times I feel like I could smack someone with it and do some serious damage. We'll see if it can win me over or I'll go back to the DInc.
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So does everybody feel the development of ROMs for the Inc is now going to come to an end? I see this forum has really come to a crawl. I haven't decided which way I am going to go yet, but if the developers are moving to other phones now, then that may help me decide. These new phones with the huge screens and huge price tags is turning me off.
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So does everybody feel the development of ROMs for the Inc is now going to come to an end? I see this forum has really come to a crawl. I haven't decided which way I am going to go yet, but if the developers are moving to other phones now, then that may help me decide. These new phones with the huge screens and huge price tags is turning me off.

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So does everybody feel the development of ROMs for the Inc is now going to come to an end? I see this forum has really come to a crawl. I haven't decided which way I am going to go yet, but if the developers are moving to other phones now, then that may help me decide. These new phones with the huge screens and huge price tags is turning me off.
I think we'll see a serious slow down until the source code for ICS is released. Then there's a chance some of them may try to see what they can do.
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I think we'll see a serious slow down until the source code for ICS is released. Then there's a chance some of them may try to see what they can do.
Ya, my gut tells me if I want the latest updates in software, I will most likely have to upgrade to a new phone. I just think the developers will move to what people are using and I don't think that will be the Inc for to much longer. Maybe some like myself may hold onto it for a fair amount of time yet, but it seems most are moving on.
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So the HTC Rezound came out today, is everybody jumping ship?
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So the HTC Rezound came out today, is everybody jumping ship?
I've officially jumped ship to the DInc2. I've had it for a week and I will not be going back to the DInc unless I have to for an emergency. The DInc2's battery life is the killer feature for me.
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Well... I ended up making my decision earlier than I had planned, due to: (1) finding out that VZW is lighting up 4G in my area on Thursday (unexpected, thought it wasn't going to be till next summer) and (2) finding out that I am in fact eligible for the 2 year renewal pricing now, instead of waiting till December 28 like I thought I had to.

So, without further ado... yes, my new HTC Rezound (I still think it's a stupid name) will be here tomorrow.

Going to have a 4/28 AMOLED Incredible in really nice shape with a bunch of accessories up for sale soon, if anyone's interested...
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I'll be putting mine up for sale shortly. Looked at it sadly today after hearing about the fixed GB update rolling out.
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Deactivated mine yesterday and got the GB update notification immediately after

Think I'm gonna root the Inc real quick (if I feel like learning how)
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I'll be putting mine up for sale shortly. Looked at it sadly today after hearing about the fixed GB update rolling out.
No one's keeping their DInc as a backup? What happens if you lose/destroy your current phone somehow?
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No one's keeping their DInc as a backup? What happens if you lose/destroy your current phone somehow?

When I get new phone, I will use Inc as everything but phone using wifi and backup phone
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I'm exploring the possibility of signing up with a SIP service and configuring the DInc for SIP. It looks like it does it natively. Then I can set up said SIP number on GVoice and use the DInc around the house as another cordless handset.
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Deactivated mine yesterday and got the GB update notification immediately after

Think I'm gonna root the Inc real quick (if I feel like learning how)

I know you can do it. You can fix computers, you can root the DInc
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When I get new phone, I will use Inc as everything but phone using wifi and backup phone
Mine will probably become a dedicated alarm clock. Not sure how much other use it would get between my new Droid sweet awesomeness deluxe, nook color, non-iPod, and the fact there is literally at least 1 computer within 4 feet of me 95% of the time.
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No one's keeping their DInc as a backup? What happens if you lose/destroy your current phone somehow?
I switched to AT&T, so it's useless to me. However, if I see an intl Galaxy S or Incredible S for under $100 within the next year, I could see myself getting one for development and as a backup.
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I switched to AT&T, so it's useless to me. However, if I see an intl Galaxy S or Incredible S for under $100 within the next year, I could see myself getting one for development and as a backup.
Part of the reason why I bought the DInc 2 was because it's a world phone. I can take it to any other carrier other than Sprint if I want to which is nice.
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Part of the reason why I bought the DInc 2 was because it's a world phone. I can take it to any other carrier other than Sprint if I want to which is nice.
That's true, but I made the decision that I would from now on only purchased a true unlocked phone (not a carrier-branded phone that has since been unlocked). My new device has an unlocked bootloader, no carrier bloat, and some features that you generally don't find in US phones. Also, due to not being an AT&T branded phone, I'm able to use their $10 unlimited data plan for non-smartphones. If I keep the phone for 2 years, it virtually pays for itself in the data plan savings.
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Dear DINC,

As one who typically has no problem giving his opinion, I find these words very difficult to say. Before I say them I want you know one thing - I STILL LOVE YOU. Your were my first (smartphone). You taught me all about apps, widgets and the delicate balance of battery use and conservation.

I will never forget the wonderful memories - like the time we first met. I stood at the door waiting for the Fedex driver to bring you to me. I recall running inside and ripping open the packaging just to see your small AMOLED face.

We spent the next several hours just learning about each other - I read your entire manual online. And you provided me with access to every widget and app I would ever want.

I recall lying in bed with you - just looking at you. And programming you. I got very little sleep those first few nights.

From that day on, you have been by my side, creating wonderful memories for me. You freed me from having to use an outdated Garmin - we navigated on so many long drives together! When I was waiting to get my haircut at Super Cuts, I would pull you out and either play with you or read the news. I recall when I strapped you to my RC airplane and it crashed violently in a cornfield 1/2 mile away. I thought I lost you forever, but I went home and Lookout gave me the exact location where you were. I still have that video as you went down into the corn.

I recall how cute you were when I would turn you on. You would say, "DROOOOOIIIIID" - I miss that.

I remember so often that people would see me with you and they would ask who you were - I proudly said, "This is a DROID INCREDIBLE - the best damn Droid phone on the market!"

Unfortunately, things have changed lately. I admit that I'm a sucker for big displays . I also wanted a display that held up better in bright sunlight. There are a few other reasons, but I know they won't make you feel any better. Please understand - IT'S ME, NOT YOU.

I have begun a relationship with the HTC Rezound. So far, she is everything I want in a phone. You were too - it's just I think I would like to have another phone.

Like most men do, I have kept you in my closet. In the event the Rezound does not work out - I will reach out to you and turn you on again.

I will always love you.

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That's true, but I made the decision that I would from now on only purchased a true unlocked phone (not a carrier-branded phone that has since been unlocked). My new device has an unlocked bootloader, no carrier bloat, and some features that you generally don't find in US phones. Also, due to not being an AT&T branded phone, I'm able to use their $10 unlimited data plan for non-smartphones. If I keep the phone for 2 years, it virtually pays for itself in the data plan savings.
Is there a difference between buying an unlocked phone and buying a carrier phone and unlocking it? There's a huge difference in price. You're locked into a contract with a carrier of course. Besides that is there a difference?

I can't do business with ATT. They have horrid coverage here in town and have screwed me over majorly before.
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Old November 16th, 2011, 12:24 PM   #86 (permalink)
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I'm not ready to say good-bye just yet. Hurry up Galaxy Nexus!
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Old November 16th, 2011, 04:03 PM   #87 (permalink)
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Is there a difference between buying an unlocked phone and buying a carrier phone and unlocking it? There's a huge difference in price. You're locked into a contract with a carrier of course. Besides that is there a difference?

I can't do business with ATT. They have horrid coverage here in town and have screwed me over majorly before.
It's the IMEI number. If it's a phone that AT&T sells, then the IMEI is forever loaded into their system. If they don't sell it, it's not in their system and the phone shows up as a dumb phone on their end.

An example would be the Galaxy S2. Just because the AT&T version is called the Galaxy S2 doesn't mean it's the same version. The international version is called GT-I9100, while the AT&T branded version is the SGH-I777. These have different sets of IMEI numbers. You can unlocked the carrier branded version, but you'll still have to root it to remove the carrier bloat, and you'll still have to pay full price for unlimited data.
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Old November 16th, 2011, 07:46 PM   #88 (permalink)
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6 weeks or so til I can upgrade. My wife is looking at the DInc 2 to replace her DInc, I however am trying to decided between the Razr, Rezound, or Bionic. I know I want dual core but I still haven't set my self on 4G so if these are still too expensive end of dec ($250-$300 is a little much for a phone I'm going to replace in like 20 months) I may end up with a droid 3 or something.
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6 weeks or so til I can upgrade. My wife is looking at the DInc 2 to replace her DInc, I however am trying to decided between the Razr, Rezound, or Bionic. I know I want dual core but I still haven't set my self on 4G so if these are still too expensive end of dec ($250-$300 is a little much for a phone I'm going to replace in like 20 months) I may end up with a droid 3 or something.

I would stay away from the bionic, most say the RAZR is what the bionic should of been.
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Old November 16th, 2011, 10:00 PM   #90 (permalink)
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I would stay away from the bionic, most say the RAZR is what the bionic should of been.
Just worried about battery life with a non-removable battery. I had 3 batts for my DInc for when i was on travel. Swapped them out on long plane rides, wouldn't be able to do that with Razr.

Spec wise its basically the same phone aside from size. only real diff is the extra 200 MHz. Both are supposed to get ICS first quarter next year according to VZ so OS version isn't really an issue. Plus at 1 GHz, my Dinc doesn't feel slow now that I have the GB update.

I think I'm gonna take a trip to VZ this week to look and decide over the next month. $20 extra to up early isn't worth it when I'm only getting a $30 NE2 credit now. I remember like 4-6 years ago it was $100 then last time it was down to $50. For this one I'm down to $30 and found out they got rid of it entirely after this upgrade. Its looking like using best buy, walmart, or wirefly is gonna end up being cheaper. Just wouldn't be able to keep my unlimited data (not that I go over 2 GB most of the time).
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Old November 17th, 2011, 08:15 AM   #91 (permalink)
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It's the IMEI number. If it's a phone that AT&T sells, then the IMEI is forever loaded into their system. If they don't sell it, it's not in their system and the phone shows up as a dumb phone on their end.

An example would be the Galaxy S2. Just because the AT&T version is called the Galaxy S2 doesn't mean it's the same version. The international version is called GT-I9100, while the AT&T branded version is the SGH-I777. These have different sets of IMEI numbers. You can unlocked the carrier branded version, but you'll still have to root it to remove the carrier bloat, and you'll still have to pay full price for unlimited data.
I hadn't thought of the IMEI. VZW is CDMA so I'm screwed anyway. I don't think you can buy an unlocked CDMA phone and take it to VZW or Sprint. I may be wrong though and probably am.
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Old November 17th, 2011, 09:38 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Old November 17th, 2011, 12:42 PM   #93 (permalink)
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I have had my Incredible for 10 months now and love it. This is my first smartphone, but I used the crap out of my Moto E815 until it died. Talk about battery life! I feel the same way about that phone that you guys do about the Incredible. I don't see a reason to upgrade from the Incredible unless something equally as enigmatic comes along.

I could do without the excessive advertising for Thunderbolt and Razr though...
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I hadn't thought of the IMEI. VZW is CDMA so I'm screwed anyway. I don't think you can buy an unlocked CDMA phone and take it to VZW or Sprint. I may be wrong though and probably am.
You're absolutely correct. For me, it's superior coverage (Verizon) versus unlocked phones (AT&T). When I found out that the Verizon Galaxy Nexus would still come with some Verizon apps installed (My Verizon, Backup Assistant, and one more likely app), I realized that Verizon would not cede control on any aspect of a phone not named iPhone. Due to this, I decided to bail.

The only reason that I rooted my Incredible in the first place was to remove Verizon's "customization." I shouldn't have to do that. And, so far, I haven't rooted my current phone.
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Old November 17th, 2011, 03:07 PM   #95 (permalink)
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I root every device I get just to get better backups of it. The so-called "bloatware" doesn't bother me at all. I don't ever use it, but I don't ever remove it either.
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Old November 17th, 2011, 03:58 PM   #96 (permalink)
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I root every device I get just to get better backups of it. The so-called "bloatware" doesn't bother me at all. I don't ever use it, but I don't ever remove it either.
It doesn't bother me either, but you should have the right to remove it. You did buy it... It's like a PC from Gateway... They have a lot of Gateway software on it, but you can go into Add Remove Programs and remove all of it if you wish.
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I root every device I get just to get better backups of it. The so-called "bloatware" doesn't bother me at all. I don't ever use it, but I don't ever remove it either.
I used to developer (and still maintain) an Incredible ROM called Liberation. The primary change from stock to Liberation was the removal of ALL Verizon apps, services, and framework. The result? A much smoother phone. Now, it still wasn't iPhone smooth, but it turned heads from my other Android using friends. It was VERY smooth for a phone with its specs.

It's one of those cases where ignorance is bliss. And no, I do not mean that as any kind of insult. I just mean that in the sense that if you were to load the ROM that I maintained, you likely wouldn't be able to tolerate the stock firmware.
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It's one of those cases where ignorance is bliss. And no, I do not mean that as any kind of insult. I just mean that in the sense that if you were to load the ROM that I maintained, you likely wouldn't be able to tolerate the stock firmware.
I was happy, till I found out I wasn't...
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I used to developer (and still maintain) an Incredible ROM called Liberation. The primary change from stock to Liberation was the removal of ALL Verizon apps, services, and framework. The result? A much smoother phone. Now, it still wasn't iPhone smooth, but it turned heads from my other Android using friends. It was VERY smooth for a phone with its specs.

It's one of those cases where ignorance is bliss. And no, I do not mean that as any kind of insult. I just mean that in the sense that if you were to load the ROM that I maintained, you likely wouldn't be able to tolerate the stock firmware.
I've actually run pure Cyanogen vs the Sense mods and personally, I haven't noticed any noticeable performance differences. Cyanogen seemed to run just a smidgen faster, but it's entirely possible that it was all in my head.
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You're absolutely correct. For me, it's superior coverage (Verizon) versus unlocked phones (AT&T). When I found out that the Verizon Galaxy Nexus would still come with some Verizon apps installed (My Verizon, Backup Assistant, and one more likely app), I realized that Verizon would not cede control on any aspect of a phone not named iPhone. Due to this, I decided to bail.

The only reason that I rooted my Incredible in the first place was to remove Verizon's "customization." I shouldn't have to do that. And, so far, I haven't rooted my current phone.
I have no issue with My Verizon and Backup Assistant being on the Prime. Those are actually value add apps that Verizon puts out as opposed to crap like Bing, Blockbuster, etc.
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