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Old March 15th, 2010, 01:39 AM   #6551 (permalink)
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You'll have to forgive my ignorance on this. I know that a movie is a large file, and its size is determined by the video quality. But if a video is streamed to a phone, how much more bandwidth does it use compared to say NFL Superfan where you can watch all NFL games on the device?
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That was done on March 2nd. So maybe the Incredible could be given 720p video and a Netflix streaming to the phone over wi-fi would be insanely incredible :P

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You'll have to forgive my ignorance on this. I know that a movie is a large file, and its size is determined by the video quality. But if a video is streamed to a phone, how much more bandwidth does it use compared to say NFL Superfan where you can watch all NFL games on the device?
You make a good point there.

I have a Netflix account, so I wouldn't mind streaming movies into my phone on long day trips or something.
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so are there going to be any news coming out tomorrow? like i have been reading about
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I guess we'll have to wait and see if there is anything that happens at the gdgt party tomorrow, but I would have to say I can't imagine any test devices being there...but I could be wrong. We'll probably have to wait for definitive news at CTIA a week from tomorrow.

Edit: After I said that, I noticed that a Windows Phone 7 Series will be available for a hands-on, so maybe we will hear some rumblings tomorrow. HTC is a Silver level sponsor for the event.
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I would assume just the Desire and HDmini but not the Incredible. I think the Incredible will be announced through VZW, similar to the Droid. (whereas, the Desire, Legend, HDmini didn't have locked carriers, the Incredible is exclusively on VZW, which, IMO, makes a difference in terms of announcements)
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Here's a thought - stop being so lazy and check back here tomorrow!! What a concept!!
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I think he was asking about the 1GB RAM, in which case you post would be discrediting that. It says 512MB of RAM in yours. I believe it was Stericson who said expect 512 but be pleasantly surprised if 1GB does come with it.. or something to that effect.
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I update this google doc as I read posts with links to certain posts in this thread so I don't have to search for posts later when I want to find out where something was said. Maybe someone else can find this useful too.

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Grokr, a simple "thanks" just didn't seem adequate - I found that to be an extremely useful post! Much thanks, bud!!
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Grokr, a simple "thanks" just didn't seem adequate - I found that to be an extremely useful post! Much thanks, bud!!
Cool, your welcome . At a certain point this thread blew up with posts so I had to do something to help me keep things straight.
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I update this google doc as I read posts with links to certain posts in this thread so I don't have to search for posts later when I want to find out where something was said. Maybe someone else can find this useful too.

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Nice. You should ask the OP to edit that in.
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Nice. You should ask the OP to edit that in.
Good idea. Just PMd the OP.
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So what are you going to do with this phone, aside from making call!? C'mon ppl, give me some techy answers..lol..
From what I have seen in androids marketplace...Honestly.... I expect to handle my ssh need for backing up my database's d/l and install upgrades to my forum (not big priority but would be nice) Update my sites with flash support basically do every thing I do with my net book.... OK almost...LOL Oh and take pics and Video of girls on the stripper pole in my bar.... oh and text and google....lol
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From what I have seen in androids marketplace...Honestly.... I expect to handle my ssh need for backing up my database's d/l and install upgrades to my forum (not big priority but would be nice) Update my sites with flash support basically do every thing I do with my net book.... OK almost...LOL Oh and take pics and Video of girls on the stripper pole in my bar.... oh and text and google....lol

LOL Nice. Man I hope it comes with 720p Recording. AND I really wish that the 8mp Camera is a legit one. I mean it IS Incredible. :P (the Incredible puns are not going to get old anytime soon..oops there's another one..lol..)
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My opinion on a few things. So if you dont want to read my, "off topic clog" as some people are putting it, move along. I for one love this thread because its more than just an incredible news thread. Everyone is SO informative for un-tech savvy people like me. Its a place we can ask questions and everyone is very nice and supportive. Thats what makes this thread so...... Incredible hehe. Part of the reason why I even chose this phone to be my first android is because of this thread.

The iphone debate. Even if the iphone does come on verizon I dont want it. Dont get me wrong its a great phone. The main reason is everyone and thier mama has an iphone! I'd rather not have something so many people have. I used to not be too into specs but being here has peaked my interest. The way the phone looks is a big one for me. Everyone has thier preference on a phone and the look is one of mine. Thats a reason I wanted the desire. But I dont wanna make the move to at&t and I'd become too attached to this phone.

About the look of the Incredible. Everyone wants the flat back. But cmon now. At least its not that awkward redish back. I like the design. It sets this phone apart from others. And of course the specs and I wouldnt even have paid attention to the specs if it wasnt for this thread

My ne2 is up this month but I am willing to wait. Even if its in May. I'd rather they perfect the phone first then release it than release it when its not ready

I would have the eris if its wasnt for you guys hope this doesnt piss people off. Just my thoughts
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The iphone debate. Even if the iphone does come on verizon I dont want it. Dont get me wrong its a great phone. The main reason is everyone and thier mama has an iphone! I'd rather not have something so many people have. I used to not be too into specs but being here has peaked my interest. The way the phone looks is a big one for me. Everyone has thier preference on a phone and the look is one of mine. Thats a reason I wanted the desire. But I dont wanna make the move to at&t and I'd become too attached to this phone.
Believe me you're not alone on this one. In fact, there is quite a large group hoping the iPhone doesn't make it to Verizon. We definitely don't want it bogging down Verizon's 3G, although we all know it can handle it much better than AT&T's network.
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Anyone else having a hard time getting into the Phones section on vzw.com? I can get into my account but the "upgrade your phone" section won't load. Adding the Incredible to the website are we

In other news (yes off topic but relevant IMO):

Nexus One shipments headed to Verizon, Vodafone soon? -- Engadget
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No offense to Verizon employees but I don't think any of them are in the know.
This is 150% true. I, personally, know more than half a dozen people who work for Verizon. Be it in a Call Center or in a retail store. None of them have any clue what is coming out. Most of them know less about phones, networks and all of that than I do. It's kind of sad really.

They do, however, get "trainings" on new phones. Just before the new Palm phones showed up they got the inside scoop on them and were given basic details and how to respond to the customers and that sort of stuff. It's just the basics and from what I understand, most people simple click through and don't pay attention. I'd love to know some of the info, but they all seem to ignore it. *shrug*

Asking anyone from Verizon anything is damn near pointless. Assuming that because someone has a "connection" to Verizon that they know something or can get any special info is just silly. One my best friends, his wife and my girlfriend all work in the Call Center and all in different departments. They know less about the upcoming phone lineups than I do. I've got a buddy who is a middle-manager at a local store, he might know even less than they do. Most of the time when I ask about a phone they just say "When I get a training on it, I'll let you know".

Seriously, Verizon employees are black holes of phone info.
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I stopped at Best BuY over the weekend... Stopped by the Phones and probed for info... they of course were clueless.. they googled it and were shocked at the hits they got.

I bet they spent the rest of the day reading this thread... lol!!!
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No one is forcing you to read and participate in this thread. If you would like one on something less broad, then by all means, start your own thread on something specific.
You're missing the point. The admins created separate sub-forums for all the different Android devices for a good reason. This isn't a general discussion forum, and this thread's topic is anything but broad... "Official HTC Incredible Thead" is pretty specific. People will come to it looking for information about that handset, and won't have the time/inclination to wade through numerous posts about iPhones, carrier plans etc. Good info gets lost in the static, and people get disillusioned with the chaos and go elsewhere.

With almost 22K active members, and dozens of new ones joining us each day, the sub-forums have to be kept orderly.
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I read on the first post that the incredible is confirmed and will be running a 1 ghz snap dragon...but I have google alerts send me any news about the incredible and after reading the 10 new news articles they all say that it is running the 768 mhz snap dragon...which is right, who is right? I don't want to be confused!!! Here is one article stating 768

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Anyone else having a hard time getting into the Phones section on vzw.com? I can get into my account but the "upgrade your phone" section won't load. Adding the Incredible to the website are we

In other news (yes off topic but relevant IMO):

Nexus One shipments headed to Verizon, Vodafone soon? -- Engadget
I personally wouldn't read too much into the issues you're having on Verizon's website. I'm not sure about others, but I've had frequent issues with their website and it has never meant a thing.
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Does anyone know the model number of the phone?

is it ADR6300 or the FC# PB31200?
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Remote desktop is a feature of Windows OSes since Windows XP. Basically it lets you remote control the desktop. It pretty much lets me see the screen of my desktop and perform actions on it as if i was sitting in front of it.
check out logmein and see if that would be what you want.

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does anyone know the model number of the phone?

Is it adr6300 or the fc# pb31200?
adr6300

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Battery Life:

My source says that the battery honestly Sucks.

But *** doesnt know if it is just how *** uses the phone.

*** Took it off about 11 and it is down to 27% now after browsing some music streaming and some other fooling around on it.

That was a direct quote from the source.
I've been following this thread since Friday but have been unable to post - it's been killing me!

First - thank you NKT and Stericson for all the info.

NKT - How has your battery life compared to what Stericson reported?
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I read on the first post that the incredible is confirmed and will be running a 1 ghz snap dragon...but I have google alerts send me any news about the incredible and after reading the 10 new news articles they all say that it is running the 768 mhz snap dragon...which is right, who is right? I don't want to be confused!!! Here is one article stating 768

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I believe the consensus on it was that it was a 1ghz capable chip but underclocked to 768 to save battery.
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Anonimac,
Since you started this thread, do you think we should start an "Incredible battery saving techniques thread"? I have noticed them on some of the other sub-forums. Maybe basic techniques, links to other websites to prolong lithium ion batts, and apps to download that could aid in this? Just a thought..

I was going to start one, but didn't know if it was too early and I don't have a smartphone so I am not aware of any apps and stuff. What do you all think?

It seems this last week is going to be kinda rough until CTIA, it seems we have squeezed most of the specs/news from the Incredible sponge lol
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Anonimac,
Since you started this thread, do you think we should start an "Incredible battery saving techniques thread"? I have noticed them on some of the other sub-forums. Maybe basic techniques, links to other websites to prolong lithium ion batts, and apps to download that could aid in this? Just a thought..

I was going to start one, but didn't know if it was too early and I don't have a smartphone so I am not aware of any apps and stuff. What do you all think?

It seems this last week is going to be kinda rough until CTIA, it seems we have squeezed most of the specs/news from the Incredible sponge lol
What about a sticky thread (in one of the new sub-forums) instead of an entire different sub-forum?
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Yes, you could make very cheap calls to regular phone numbers, and if you called another person on skype, you could call for free.
If it were only that easy it would be a no-brainer for me to get the phone. However, unlike the U.S., it is next to impossible to find businesses in Europe that offer free Wi-Fi service. I'll never forget roaming the streets of Amsterdam toting my computer bag a year ago trying to find restaurants and/or cafe's with Wi-Fi service and was surprised by how few offered it. Ironically, McDonald's was the only place I could find a Wi-Fi hotspot and even then you had to pay by the hour for using the service. Where in the U.S. there's free Wi-Fi service in just about every coffee shop you walk into, save Starbucks, Europe is completely the opposite. One way or another you end up paying for service over there and Wi-Fi rates aren't cheap.
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What about a sticky thread (in one of the new sub-forums) instead of an entire different sub-forum?

That's actually, probably what I meant. I get confused between threads, forums, sub-forums, etc sometimes LOL thanks
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I read on the first post that the incredible is confirmed and will be running a 1 ghz snap dragon...but I have google alerts send me any news about the incredible and after reading the 10 new news articles they all say that it is running the 768 mhz snap dragon...which is right, who is right? I don't want to be confused!!! Here is one article stating 768

CLICK HERE
The 768 number comes from either Stericson or NKT which was the speed listed on a testing unit. Some tried to say that there we lesser snapdragon processors running at 768 but no one could provide a model number and the only proof seems to have been a 1ghz chip tested at lower speeds. This is probably where your articles are getting their information. Most likely the production units will not be at 768mhz.
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First off....I know I don't make the rules around here....and it is a very sensitive subject to some people....but sometimes it's hard to tell OFF Topic...to what is acceptable. For example, the Incredible will not have GSM or world phone capabilities...but it will have Skype. Now...I could....and one might argue that I should go investigage Skype and not ask any question about it here....but the way I see it....it's very pertinent to this phone and it's usability. And...I don't think it's anymore off topic than what color back plates might be offered in...or what batteries might be available. Now...you want to talk about OFF TOPIC? Try discussing sports teams or places to get a good burger! Or...try talking about the iPhone....but with NO reference to the Incredible. Am I wrong? I guess it really doesn't matter....it's the Moderators call...or perhaps someone else who has assigned themselves hall monitor.

I get that this is the OFFICIAL HTC INCREDIBLE forum...but until the phone comes out...how can anything be "official". With all this said (and off topic) I am sure this post might be deleted. Btw....thank you to the people who replied about the Skype function. What that tells me is...if I want to make a call...I better look for a McDonalds and be willing to pay. As luck would have it...I might not even get to go to Europe again before this phone is old news....but if I am lucky enough to return for vacation....it will be an option...and I won't have to feel cheated that I don't have a GSM phone.
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First off....I know I don't make the rules around here....and it is a very sensitive subject to some people....but sometimes it's hard to tell OFF Topic...to what is acceptable. For example, the Incredible will not have GSM or world phone capabilities...but it will have Skype. Now...I could....and one might argue that I should go investigage Skype and not ask any question about it here....but the way I see it....it's very pertinent to this phone and it's usability. And...I don't think it's anymore off topic than what color back plates might be offered in...or what batteries might be available. Now...you want to talk about OFF TOPIC? Try discussing sports teams or places to get a good burger! Or...try talking about the iPhone....but with NO reference to the Incredible. Am I wrong? I guess it really doesn't matter....it's the Moderators call...or perhaps someone else who has assigned themselves hall monitor.

I get that this is the OFFICIAL HTC INCREDIBLE forum...but until the phone comes out...how can anything be "official". With all this said (and off topic) I am sure this post might be deleted. Btw....thank you to the people who replied about the Skype function. What that tells me is...if I want to make a call...I better look for a McDonalds and be willing to pay. As luck would have it...I might not even get to go to Europe again before this phone is old news....but if I am lucky enough to return for vacation....it will be an option...and I won't have to feel cheated that I don't have a GSM phone.
Skype will be running on the 3G side of the phone or wifi. This is why Verizon is getting an exclusive deal. I would guess android or blackberry devices on Verizon will now be a worldphone with this. No need of adding the expense of a sim card to the phone where you could switch carriers later. Sounds like a smart move for Verizon to make you stay with them. I could be reading into their strategy wrong. Here is some links anyways.

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So there are 8 days until CTIA in VEGAS!!! Is anyone's heart beating as fast as mine?
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^^^ lol, everyone is excited. Is anyone putting any weight behind the rumors (a few pages back) that there will be some sort of a pre-CTIA annoucment on the 19th? Possibly something on the Incredible?

With ATT making some annoucments this morning (4 new phones and new service plans) maybe VZW will want to 1 up them?
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Yeah... One up them with the Devour. Isn't is suppose to be on VZW today? I know its been in stores like Walmart and Best Buy, but I seem to recall the 15th as the day VZW starts selling it online.
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Skype will be running on the 3G side of the phone or wifi. This is why Verizon is getting an exclusive deal. I would guess android or blackberry devices on Verizon will now be a worldphone with this. No need of adding the expense of a sim card to the phone where you could switch carriers later. Sounds like a smart move for Verizon to make you stay with them. I could be reading into their strategy wrong. Here is some links anyways.

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Verizon Wireless and Skype join forces to create a global mobile calling community - About Skype
Sounds very cool....thank you for the links! So, correct me if I'm wrong...but I read nothing that would change how our phone will work in places such as Europe...where the network is different. We will ultimately have to get our Incredible phones to a WiFi spot...yes? I think this is awesome and does indeed somewhat circumvent the need for a sim card. If you can find a WiFi spot...then you will have service. That's just one more reason to dig this phone!
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Yeah... One up them with the Devour. Isn't is suppose to be on VZW today? I know its been in stores like Walmart and Best Buy, but I seem to recall the 15th as the day VZW starts selling it online.
Official launch date for the Devour for VZW is the 25th.
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It doesn't seem like Verizon is ever interested in overshadowing AT&T, so I am not expecting any announcements on the 19th
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My CIO is going to CTIA. I'd be jealous if I wasn't going to Mexico on Vacation.
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^^^ lol, everyone is excited. Is anyone putting any weight behind the rumors (a few pages back) that there will be some sort of a pre-CTIA annoucment on the 19th? Possibly something on the Incredible?

With ATT making some annoucments this morning (4 new phones and new service plans) maybe VZW will want to 1 up them?
The phones they are getting do not sound that great.

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^^^ lol, everyone is excited. Is anyone putting any weight behind the rumors (a few pages back) that there will be some sort of a pre-CTIA annoucment on the 19th? Possibly something on the Incredible?

With ATT making some annoucments this morning (4 new phones and new service plans) maybe VZW will want to 1 up them?
But they are 4 phones no one on here would want. I think the 19th idea comes from the fact its the last news cycle day before CTIA begins. Might be a good idea but I doubt it since there have been no invitations to a Verizon or HTC presser have been sent to places like Engadget or what not. Hence we're waiting for CTIA for official word or leaks right before it.
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Do you think there would be a press event or just a press release? I don't think that VZW or HTC are holding any events or new conferences or whatever at CTIA...hmmm
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Do you think there would be a press event or just a press release? I don't think that VZW or HTC are holding any events or new conferences or whatever at CTIA...hmmm
But both HTC and Verizon have booths at CTIA. Honestly, if the specs from this forum are true, I dont think a press conference is needed as word will get around pretty fast.
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Sounds very cool....thank you for the links! So, correct me if I'm wrong...but I read nothing that would change how our phone will work in places such as Europe...where the network is different. We will ultimately have to get our Incredible phones to a WiFi spot...yes? I think this is awesome and does indeed somewhat circumvent the need for a sim card. If you can find a WiFi spot...then you will have service. That's just one more reason to dig this phone!
I think wifi in the beginning but 3G will work on other networks over there at a later date. I am not sure which spectrum Verizon is using for the data plan. Skype will work on the data plan. Also, keep in mind that the qualcomm chip in the Verizon phones can handle GSM networks. I am thinking that with Verizon going with LTE and other countries doing the same that something is in the works for crossing over on networks for skype users. This would be a plus for Europe travelers coming to the states as well.
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Do you think there would be a press event or just a press release? I don't think that VZW or HTC are holding any events or new conferences or whatever at CTIA...hmmm
Looking at the official schedule no wireless company seems to have a presser setup for CTIA. But Verizon or HTC could have a presentation at their booth. HTC has a pretty big booth (not the biggest but big) and is only literally a couple booths down from Verizon's (1034)
http://www.ctiawireless.com/docs/W2010_Overview.pdf
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Looking at the official schedule no wireless company seems to have a presser setup for CTIA. But Verizon or HTC could have a presentation at their booth. HTC has a pretty big booth (not the biggest but big) and is only literally a couple booths down from Verizon's (1034)
http://www.ctiawireless.com/docs/W2010_Overview.pdf
Yea I was thinking that also...I've never been to an expo of any kind so IDK how this would work out at the booth or whatever. I feel there has to be an announcement of some kind, its already the end of Q1, we need another high powered android device on VZW.
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The phones they are getting do not sound that great.


True, I didn't think they were impressive. It was just a thought. CTIA it is then!
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Yea I was thinking that also...I've never been to an expo of any kind so IDK how this would work out at the booth or whatever. I feel there has to be an announcement of some kind, its already the end of Q1, we need another high powered android device on VZW.
Well if its something like E3 you would announce and demo a product at the booth. They could put out a press release and have a number of Incredibles at the Verizon or HTC booth for the press to play with.
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Well if its something like E3 you would announce and demo a product at the booth. They could put out a press release and have a number of Incredibles at the Verizon or HTC booth for the press to play with.
I guess thats what I have been assuming VZW would do all along (in the absence of press releases). I'm not sure they could escape the angry press mobs if all they did was come with pictures of the Incredible.

Is there any device from last year's CTIA someone can draw an analogy to? i.e. Was there a hyped device that was revealed ala booth demos?
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