1) Flaming the Mods will only get this new thread shutdown.
2) Don't blame the Mods as it's their job to do what was done. While we may have been enjoying, it the fact is that it's up to the Mods to make sure things stay on topic regardless. There is no exception/thread by thread basis
3) It's not really that big of a deal to have to post to another thread. I understand everyone's frustration but it's not as if we have to reinvent the wheel. Just look for a new thread title.
It will be okay everyone. If anything this is HTC and Verizon's fault. If those summa bitches would let us know when the damn Incredible was coming out we wouldn't be here now would we ?
Perhaps the mods could have explain their arbitrary line they drew to determine what is "on-topic" in an "official" forum where nothing about the phone in question is actually official except for the name! Were we only supposed to post about the name? How its spelled, the font? But wait that would only be opinions and nothing concrete which must surely be off topic to the Basij's who run this place.
To me "on topic" means anything about the phone past or future. Which means anything that might interfere with future updates or possible future crippling all due to a certain lawsuit is on topic because of the effect on the phone.
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From what NKT was saying and showing the Incredible (there I mentioned the phone so this is on topic) is in the last cycle of its testing phase is not completed testing. As for 2 weeks, there are probably phases. You still find things needing fixing. Broken stuff is analyzed and new task lists go out making phases of the testing. so the back and forth may take more then 2 weeks.
Absolutely. Wasn't it confirmed though that the testers had to return their phones to VZW? I suppose that could mean that more tweaks need to me made, and they will have to test agin. On the other hand, it seems that word was that the testers really liked the Incredible. Isn't it possible that the phone passed, and has been approved for final production/release?
TBH this is only half right, like I have said before if they feel the market is right and the phones do not have any total failures in the initial stages of testing (be it hardware ir software) they will move along with the release. It has happened before and will happen again, the most recent example being the N1. Had they completed the testing phases they would have realized the screen cracking issue and the multi-touch hardware issue.
I see. So basically I'm going off on the ideal and not reality, awesome! Oh well as long as the Incredible (now an on topic post) doesn't summon daemons from another dimension to steal my soul I guess I can live with whatever problems it may have.
Though I wonder if my ideal testing scenario is close to Verizon's methods as they've been known for being bastards in the testing area.
Unfortunately, as a Storm 1 user, I can say that plan was an epic FAIL! I'm not sure that VZW would risk repeating the same mistake.
Well alot of that had to do with basic design. No amount of testing was going to fix surepress so the Incredible will have a leg up. As long as there are no hardware problems and no major software problems I say launch the thing.
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Well alot of that had to do with basic design. No amount of testing was going to fix surepress so the Incredible will have a leg up. As long as there are no hardware problems and no major software problems I say launch the thing.
With that sir, I absolutely agree- bring on the Incredible! It sounds like Incredible is in a much better state now than the Storm ever was/will be.
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I'm still curious about the variance in hardware between what NKT had in hand (no onboard 6.8ish gb storage) and Sericson (on board storage).
I can't imagine something like that would change from test to launch. Something on the outside like the back or bezel, sure. But an internal component like that? I would doubt it.
I can't imagine something like that would change from test to launch. Something on the outside like the back or bezel, sure. But an internal component like that? I would doubt it.
Oh i agree, i'm just curious which is the actual spec as we've heard of both version very recently and both sources are credible.
Unfortunately, as a Storm 1 user, I can say that plan was an epic FAIL! I'm not sure that VZW would risk repeating the same mistake.
Hey trust me I know how you feel, I have a storm 1 had to get it after my curve died ( and by died I mean dropping it from the 3rd story apt... long story). But it was a 3rd gen and the problems my company found were fixed but the other problems arose. It was Verizon's and RIMs rush to get out a potential iPhone killer that caused it, and truth be told Verizon isn't very good at learning from mistakes.
Absolutely. Wasn't it confirmed though that the testers had to return their phones to VZW? I suppose that could mean that more tweaks need to me made, and they will have to test agin. On the other hand, it seems that word was that the testers really liked the Incredible. Isn't it possible that the phone passed, and has been approved for final production/release?
My source at VZW told me that he was going to get his hardware revision yesterday. As far as the revision he said "HTC needed to bring a better product. It went from being a middle level item to a high end."
When I asked about a release date he said very soon.
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To be fair the Incredible has a lineage. The Storm really didn't. Had the Storm 2 been the Storm 1 things would have been much better for Blackberry.
And yet still, I read the other day that BB has recalled a bunch of Storm 2's for screen problems- it seems they just can't get that touch screen right.
In reference to the questions about the Saturday release date I believe this isn't completely uncommon. As far as I can remember when I lined up to get my BB Tour (yes, I deserve a flame for that) it was on a day that I was off of work so it had to have been a Saturday or a Sunday.
After further digging it was July 12, 2009...a Sunday oddly enough...
Oh i agree, i'm just curious which is the actual spec as we've heard of both version very recently and both sources are credible.
Well if they want the Incredible to really go after the Iphone they need to either leave the internal storage as is or increase it. That way the user could (if they fork over more dough) get more storage on the incredible then on any iphone.
Hey trust me I know how you feel, I have a storm 1 had to get it after my curve died ( and by died I mean dropping it from the 3rd story apt... long story). But it was a 3rd gen and the problems my company found were fixed but the other problems arose. It was Verizon's and RIMs rush to get out a potential iPhone killer that caused it, and truth be told Verizon isn't very good at learning from mistakes.
Unfortunately, as a Storm 1 user, I can say that plan was an epic FAIL! I'm not sure that VZW would risk repeating the same mistake.
Yes, but the Storm 1 was a mostly new platform for BB and had many new moving parts that was new ground for BB. The Incredible is already much further along in development due to its htc predecessors.
Basically htc just added some more lipstick on the pig (red at that) and voila' INCREDIBLE!
My source at VZW told me that he was going to get his hardware revision yesterday. As far as the revision he said "HTC needed to bring a better product. It went from being a middle level item to a high end."
When I asked about a release date he said very soon.
In your opinion, would that explain the confusion with test unit specs (processor clock, on-board storage)?
I'm still curious about the variance in hardware between what NKT had in hand (no onboard 6.8ish gb storage) and Sericson (on board storage).
Not to speak for NKT but I think he only had it in his hand for a very short time. I believe he said some of what he stated was from his reading of the documentation that came with the phone. I also believe he later stated that he found evidence that went along with the onboard storage that Sericson stated when he went back through the materials.
TBH this is only half right, like I have said before if they feel the market is right and the phones do not have any total failures in the initial stages of testing (be it hardware ir software) they will move along with the release. It has happened before and will happen again, the most recent example being the N1. Had they completed the testing phases they would have realized the screen cracking issue and the multi-touch hardware issue.
Check out the N1 testing videos - maybe on youtube. They those suckers with this testing machine. Also tumbled them. It was impressive. After watching it you will only wonder what the hell type of jeans those people are wearing????
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I think that the carriers do not really care if they lose some money on the phones. They are recouping their costs on the 2 year contract. They are also counting on all of us to buy the phone when it comes out and meet whatever the breakeven mark is. You know that if they are charging $199.99 for the phone, it is not what they paid to buy the phone in bulk.
Not to speak for NKT but I think he only had it in his hand for a very short time. I believe he said some of what he stated was from his reading of the documentation that came with the phone. I also believe he later stated that he found evidence that went along with the onboard storage that Sericson stated when he went back through the materials.
Yes he made a post about the 8GB moviNAND storage listed in the documents which is the same memory that the Pre+ uses for onboard storage.
Check out the N1 testing videos - maybe on youtube. They those suckers with this testing machine. Also tumbled them. It was impressive. After watching it you will only wonder what the hell type of jeans those people are wearing????
Jeans made of hammers and razor blades of course...you don't have any? It's all the rage!
Not to speak for NKT but I think he only had it in his hand for a very short time. I believe he said some of what he stated was from his reading of the documentation that came with the phone. I also believe he later stated that he found evidence that went along with the onboard storage that Sericson stated when he went back through the materials.
Agreed, i remember all that, just trying to get a final confirmation now that the release is eminent. I also agree with the the other comments above that this would be further supported if HTC really did "high grade" this phone from a mid-tier product to a high end, but it begs the question, if that did happen, what other little tweaks were made? dual mic? 6.4 --> 8 mp? 768/850 Mhz --> 1 Ghz? 512 --> 1 gb RAM? etc...
Agreed, i remember all that, just trying to get a final confirmation now that the release is eminent. I also agree with the the other comments above that this would be further supported if HTC really did "high grade" this phone from a mid-tier product to a high end, but it begs the question, if that did happen, what other little tweaks were made? dual mic? 6.4 --> 8 mp? 768/850 Mhz --> 1 Ghz? 512 --> 1 gb RAM? etc...
I'm pretty confident that the Incredible has been 8MP the whole time, it just is defaulted to take pictures that come out as 6.4 MP.....just like if you take a picture with a 5MP camera, they probably will come out to 4.2 MP or something like that.
Perhaps the mods could have explain their arbitrary
To me "on topic" means anything about the phone past or future. Which means anything that might interfere with future updates or possible future crippling all due to a certain lawsuit is on topic because of the effect on the phone.
This is exactly how I feel and you can thank me for all of the the Apple lawsuit mumbo-jumbo yesterday on the old thread. Point is it wasn't without merit and the lawsuit COULD stand to potentially delay the release of any new HTC Android phones, including the Incredible. So how the heck is that "off topic" given that the thread title itself encompasses ALL THINGS INCREDIBLE and not specific topics such as specs, battery life, release date, photos of product seen in the wild, etc. etc.
If whoever started the thread wanted to reduce it to a certain subset of topics then that should have been made clear from the get go or else new threads that were item/topic specific should have been created in its place. The shutting down of the thread is not the fault of myself or any poster here, as far as I'm concerned, but more a problem of the broad nature of the thread title itself.
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This is exactly how I feel and you can thank me for all of the the Apple lawsuit mumbo-jumbo yesterday on the old thread. Point is it wasn't without merit and the lawsuit COULD stand to potentially delay the release of any new HTC Android phones, including the Incredible. So how the heck is that "off topic" given that the thread title itself encompasses ALL THINGS INCREDIBLE and not specific topics such as specs, battery life, release date, photos of product seen in the wild, etc. etc.
If whoever started the thread wanted to reduce it to a certain subset of topics then that should have been made clear from the get go or else new threads that were item/topic specific should have been created in its place. The shutting down of the thread is not the fault of myself or any poster here, as far as I'm concerned, but more a problem of the broad nature of the thread title itself.
How did i know this would somehow come to be my fault...j/k
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Agreed, i remember all that, just trying to get a final confirmation now that the release is eminent. I also agree with the the other comments above that this would be further supported if HTC really did "high grade" this phone from a mid-tier product to a high end, but it begs the question, if that did happen, what other little tweaks were made? dual mic? 6.4 --> 8 mp? 768/850 Mhz --> 1 Ghz? 512 --> 1 gb RAM? etc...
My guess would be that they "high graded" the device when we saw the last round of improvements stated by NKT and Sericson when the memory jumped to 512, onboard memory appeared, etc. I don't think we are talking about it now making another jump. Most likely the revision phones that testers are getting now are probably the final revision and free phones for being testers. Any changes are most likely cosmetic and software tweaks.
How did i know this would somehow come to be my fault...j/k
Hey, stay on topic! J/k j/k
I love the "water cooler" feel this thread has. I picked up a droid after holding out for one whole day... I plan on taking it back at or before launch. So I have been coming here to get my Incredible news fix since page 27 or so... back when I thought what was huge.
Keep it up and I hope this afternoons news turns out true.
How did i know this would somehow come to be my fault...j/k
LOL!! Not your fault at all, you've been awesome and still are AWESOME! You blew me away today with that red rendering of the phone. I would actually pay a premium for that color if it was an option. "Hello, Verizon. Anybody home or listening!?"
LOL!! Not your fault at all, you've been awesome and still are AWESOME! You blew me away today with that red rendering of the phone. I would actually pay a premium for that color if it was an option. "Hello, Verizon. Anybody home or listening!?"
Yes, I believe I would pay extra for that also, very impressive.
I'm very interested in this phone. Right now I have a Touch Pro 2 and the only thing stopping me from getting the Incredible is Slingbox. I haven't been able to find many updates on when/if sling is going to make an application for Android. I read something about a release in the summer but that hasn't been confirmed. Do you guys think it's worth the wait to ditch Windows Mobile for Android and just wait patiently for sling?
If it is available on the 27th, even close to the assumed specs, it blows away any other phone that most of us are going to get it no matter what - I am..and my NE2 isn't up until Feb 2011.
Correct. Could be it was the Incredible all along and they either got it confused with the N1 or simply wrong.
I made an attempt to check the original source, but because of the limitations of google translate, I had no idea how to enter a Chinese search term to find the original article to see if it had been modified in any way.
Correct. Could be it was the Incredible all along and they either got it confused with the N1 or simply wrong.
That was BGR's take on the article -
"If HTC is shipping anything to Verizon, it’s most likely the HTC-branded Incredible (with HTC Sense UI); the Verizon-compatible Nexus One is, in all likelihood, being shipped to Google’s distribution partner Brightpoint." - Boy Genius Report
anyone else feel like we are the only people that know about this phone
Yes, but it won't last for long. When folks who cannot peruse this thread during the day get home from work or school, it's going to explode in here - especially with one or two more confirmations of the phone being released on the 27th. At that point it will be a pure waiting game and an exciting build up to the release. It's like once you know it's coming the entire dialogue will shift from all this speculation regarding specs, release dates, battery life, etc. to things like, "What's the first thing you're going to do with the Incredible once you have it?" That will be much more fun to discuss then some of the stuff previous to this.
Check out the N1 testing videos - maybe on youtube. They those suckers with this testing machine. Also tumbled them. It was impressive. After watching it you will only wonder what the hell type of jeans those people are wearing????
Just watched the vid, very very similar to what we do here. Everything but the tumbling. I'm surpirised that they had a test set up specifically for pocketing the n1 but are still having issues. But then again it is in house testing and their failure parameters can be a little...biased towards what they feel will help keep their conscience clear.
I called two different Verizon stores and they had never even heard of the incredible till I had them google it.
It was mentioned several times in the old thread that the stores sometimes won't know about a new phone coming to them until as little as two days before its released, so this does not come as a surprise.
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It's quite a day on the message board!
