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Old February 17th, 2010, 04:34 PM   #901 (permalink)
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Hell yeah! That's maybe as close as we'll get to a Desire on Verizon...and I think I'm ok with that. I was kinda planning to not root or hack my next phone but for sense on a N1 it'd probably be worth it.
I've also been thinking for those that go for the N1 rather than the Incredible, ya think there's any way to still cash in a new every 2 credit....with Verizon and Googles new ETF I'm trying to find a loophole to get my $100.
I really doubt you can use your NE2, if you are buying the phone from Google directly.

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HTC Desire ROM gets ported to Nexus One, brings Sense with it | Android Central

This looks promising. I could live with the Nexus. However, I would love to have that great looking HTC Desire on VZW.

The thing is, on crap networks like AT&T and T-Mobile, they have to have the best phones because they don't have coverage. On VZW, they feel that it isn't necessary because, hey, we are all not willing to switch, and VZW knows that. So they can release whatever they want -- good or bad -- because we will stay with them.
If I had a dollar for every time Ruben has said how much he wants that Desire on VZW, I'd have enough money for a plane ticket to fly to the UK and get him one!
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I think the key is a lot of people are waiting for a Android device from Verizon worth owning. The two they currently have sure are not.
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If I had a dollar for every time Ruben has said how much he wants that Desire on VZW, I'd have enough money for a plane ticket to fly to the UK and get him one!
You bet. I can't make myself more clear to say how much I would love to have it...you know the rest.

Anyway, when the HTC guy said that it would be up with most of their main networks on all countries, was he actually saying the Desire itself, or a different variant? He did say something like, "I am proud to say that a record high or our key partner networks in every country have accepted the Desire." I am, of course, paraphrasing, but I'm gonna focus on that.
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I really doubt you can use your NE2, if you are buying the phone from Google directly.
Agreed, hence finding a loophole to not lose the $100 credit. I've been shocked how much Eris's are going for without contract on ebay, which got me thinking... if I could use my NE2 to get a Eris, dump it on ebay to subsidize the purchase of a N1. But I don't know how exactly the ETF works if you're just activating a different phone
This is all based on the possibility that the Incredible doesn't deliver on it's name or N1 being released first.

And just for the record, after playing this guessing/waiting game with Verizon and HTC before, I don't think Verizon will see the Desire at all, nor will it become our Nexus 1. The Incredible maybe a sibling but will have a unique look specific for Verizon....ie. Hero and Eris. Just my opinion.
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I think no matter what Verizon needs to do something fast. Its sad when people are entertaining the idea of t-mobile over Verizon, but I can honestly say I have looked and read some reviews of their service myself. I will say though Verizon while expensive has been great to me for years so I sit and wait for them to offer a phone worth picking up. I will also have a really hard time leaving my BB Tour.
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I think no matter what Verizon needs to do something fast. Its sad when people are entertaining the idea of t-mobile over Verizon, but I can honestly say I have looked and read some reviews of their service myself. I will say though Verizon while expensive has been great to me for years so I sit and wait for them to offer a phone worth picking up. I will also have a really hard time leaving my BB Tour.
...and that is exactly why Verizon doesn't care if you get your phone soon or not.
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True, but service matters. Sadly I know in my area the only other carrier worth entertaining is Sprint and they are not offering much either.

You also can't rule out whatever deal Verizon worked with Motorola. They may have committed a specific time to the Droid. They all do it as well as volume commitments. Now why anyone would bank anything on any device made my Motorola is beyond me but thats a whole separate conversation.
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You bet. I can't make myself more clear to say how much I would love to have it...you know the rest.

Anyway, when the HTC guy said that it would be up with most of their main networks on all countries, was he actually saying the Desire itself, or a different variant? He did say something like, "I am proud to say that a record high or our key partner networks in every country have accepted the Desire." I am, of course, paraphrasing, but I'm gonna focus on that.

i was also wondering about that.... i hope they get the desire and we just need to wait till CTIA to find out if we are or not. Any way you put it desire, incredible or nexus one(in the order i perfer) one of them for sure or maybe all three will be coming to verizon. we just dont know yet. but the light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter soon we will be out and in the know
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I think one or more has to be coming soon.. I do like the idea of a Nexus with a touchpad vs trackball but people say they never use it anyways.

Messaging and profile management are a much larger concern...
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Ok, so I email Phil Nickinson from Android Central.
Hey since your at the MWC could you tell me if they have the Htc incredible being
shown there? I know it is a variation of the bravo and the nexus one. I would really like to know about the ram/rom on the Incredible. Any info would be cool thanks. Just
to add I love the website and appreciate all the work you guys are doing.
Stay safe

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No Incredible. Next month at CTIA, maybe. We'll be there.
Sent by Android on a Nexus One.

March 23-25. Verizon wireless will be in booth 1034. (I looked it up on the CTIA website.) Maybe then we will get the news we want.
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Ok, so I email Phil Nickinson from Android Central.
Hey since your at the MWC could you tell me if they have the Htc incredible being
shown there? I know it is a variation of the bravo and the nexus one. I would really like to know about the ram/rom on the Incredible. Any info would be cool thanks. Just
to add I love the website and appreciate all the work you guys are doing.
Stay safe

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No Incredible. Next month at CTIA, maybe. We'll be there.
Sent by Android on a Nexus One.

March 23-25. Verizon wireless will be in booth 1034. (I looked it up on the CTIA website.) Maybe then we will get the news we want.


- Very good information...maybe it is CTIA that we're all waiting for. I honestly think the Incredible is our Desire...would I prefer the Euro version, that'll be a "wait and see" answer. We all know something is coming to Verizon based on the splash screen on the Incredible video unit; it's just a matter of what it'll look like. The edges are more square on the unit we saw, assuming it will look like that, and the HW buttons were replaced with the capacitive buttons. I am sure Verizon wants to keep some uniformity with their Android units, so they are identifiable.

Not sure if the phone will be released in March/April, but my gut feeling is it will be announced with a short wait for release. I do believe that Verizon is getting the point on not waiting to release a powerful (sought after) phone. We know the network is the best; so now the phones need to be to take the wind out of AT&T.

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I keep looking at the images of the Incredible and then images of the Desire. The dual flashes on the back of the Incredible, the larger lens, the meatier back... I wouldn't be surprised if the Incredible ends up being the more feature rich of the two.

As for looks, oh well. I like the idea of having a monstorous looking phone as long as it kicks major ass to anything else around.
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I keep looking at the images of the Incredible and then images of the Desire. The dual flashes on the back of the Incredible, the larger lens, the meatier back... I wouldn't be surprised if the Incredible ends up being the more feature rich of the two.

As for looks, oh well. I like the idea of having a monstorous looking phone as long as it kicks major ass to anything else around.
i agree, i just wish it wasn't so rectangular like the iphone. maybe that'll change like the bravo-to-desire, but if there's already videos of it, that might not be possible.
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correct me if I'm wrong but, if Sense gets modded onto the N1 then you would essentially have a Desire...and since the N1 is coming to Verizon then you got a Verizon version of the desire with a few minor differences correct?
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correct me if I'm wrong but, if Sense gets modded onto the N1 then you would essentially have a Desire...and since the N1 is coming to Verizon then you got a Verizon version of the desire with a few minor differences correct?
sure, if you dont mind risking bricking your phone
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correct me if I'm wrong but, if Sense gets modded onto the N1 then you would essentially have a Desire...and since the N1 is coming to Verizon then you got a Verizon version of the desire with a few minor differences correct?
I agree, that is the way a phone should look though!
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I agree, that is the way a phone should look though!
no doubt, I do think it looks better...my thing is since every Verizon phone has its unique look but is essentially the same phone as another phone on another network and the Desire is essentially the same phone as the N1 and the N1 is confirmed to come to verizon couldn't the desire very well be verizons N1?
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not to mention does anybody really know when that video was actually shot of the "incredible" maybe it could be older and they already redesigned it to the desire idk just saying...I really just do not see a whole design team looking at that phone with that red back and them all agreeing man this thing is sexy
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The date on the phone was Feb. 6
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The date on the phone was Feb. 6
damn, there goes my theory well looks like they should've just put all the cool stuff on the incredible into this phone and call it the "incredible"
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Ok, so I email Phil Nickinson from Android Central.
Hey since your at the MWC could you tell me if they have the Htc incredible being
shown there? I know it is a variation of the bravo and the nexus one. I would really like to know about the ram/rom on the Incredible. Any info would be cool thanks. Just
to add I love the website and appreciate all the work you guys are doing.
Stay safe

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No Incredible. Next month at CTIA, maybe. We'll be there.
Sent by Android on a Nexus One.

March 23-25. Verizon wireless will be in booth 1034. (I looked it up on the CTIA website.) Maybe then we will get the news we want.
I honestly don't think I will be holding out another month just for INFORMATION, not even an actual PHONE, just info about it...and that's a MAYBE on the info.
Guess I will be picking up an Eris next week.
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I think the key is a lot of people are waiting for a Android device from Verizon worth owning. The two they currently have sure are not.
Ding, Ding, Ding. Bingo. that's why I'm very patient with people who ask "should I wait or get the droid" and I'm pi$$ed at those who say "you'll never have the newest because something new is always coming out. THAT'S NOT THE POINT. The point is that while the Droid and Eris may be nice, they're definitely not top tier.
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no doubt, I do think it looks better...my thing is since every Verizon phone has its unique look but is essentially the same phone as another phone on another network and the Desire is essentially the same phone as the N1 and the N1 is confirmed to come to verizon couldn't the desire very well be verizons N1?
No. The Desire is not the Nexus One for Verizon. I'll bet you all my money on that. The Desire is the competitor of the Nexus. The Nexus was made by google and will always look like that with the Google plain Android 2.1 (which isn't that bad).
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No. The Desire is not the Nexus One for Verizon. I'll bet you all my money on that. The Desire is the competitor of the Nexus. The Nexus was made by google and will always look like that with the Google plain Android 2.1 (which isn't that bad).
I'm not doubting you on that boss, as you seem like the guy that is the one of the experts on here and I'm just throwing things out there but, correct me if I'm wrong but, didn't HTC make the Nexus one for google?
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I'm not doubting you on that boss, as you seem like the guy that is the one of the experts on here and I'm just throwing things out there but, correct me if I'm wrong but, didn't HTC make the Nexus one for google?
Yes; However, HTC only makes the phone. That's it... THAT IS IT. Most of the guides that did hands-on talked about how the Nexus was its competitor and the issues and HTC pretty much took everything wrong with the Nexus and fixed it with the Desire. i.e. physical buttons, optical trackpad
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Yes; However, HTC only makes the phone. That's it... THAT IS IT. Most of the guides that did hands-on talked about how the Nexus was its competitor and the issues and HTC pretty much took everything wrong with the Nexus and fixed it with the Desire. i.e. physical buttons, optical trackpad
word, so being as the desire is the N1 competitor I'm assuming that more than likely Verizon will not get the N1...which is epic fail
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word, so being as the desire is the N1 competitor I'm assuming that more than likely Verizon will not get the N1...which is epic fail
Verizon has confirmed getting the Nexus One.
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The only way I would see Verizon getting a N1 like device is it the N1 will only be available from Google when it is released supporting Verizons network. It would not make sense for Verizon to offer two nearly identical devices. With that said the odds of all three are simple... Not going to happen.
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It has occurred to me that with all this talk and hype regarding the Desire and the N1 that the Incredible has suddenly become a back-burner dark horse. Just because there have been a few photos of it floated around with an odd-colored back plate doesn't necessarily mean that Big Red won't have it spruced up by its release date. I mean, the Desire came out of NOWHERE and blew all the other phones out of the water - literally overnight. Who's to say that the final version of the Incredible won't be stellar as well? HTC and Verizon still have time, and I'm sure that group of collaborators has taken notice of everyone falling all over themselves regarding the looks and specs of the Desire. I mean, you don't call your product "The Incredible" and then don't have the balls to back it up, right?

Currently, the Desire is a pipe dream for the States, and the N1 won't have the support that I'd like to have. I have concluded that the Incredible is the phone that I will be anticipating the most.
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I also think the N1 is the best bet to be released in the near future. The others are a quarter away.
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word, so being as the desire is the N1 competitor I'm assuming that more than likely Verizon will not get the N1...which is epic fail
Verizon IS getting A Nexus One, Nexus One Phone - Web meets phone.. No guarantee that it will look identical to the current N1, but the big key to this whole discussion is the N1 will not have HTC Sense. HTC does make the hardware for the N1 but google is pushing the N1 with stock android. That's where the Verizon sold Incredible comes in. Hopefully similar spec hardware to the N1/Desire/Bravo but Sense equipped.



Edit: A N1 will be sold to function on Verizon's network. Verizon will not be selling it in stores or tech support.
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my bad I meant to write the desire lol I knew that
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The n1 will not change in appearance when it comes to VZW. I can swear by that.
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Ruben,

Historically CDMA devices are a bit thicker, I have read the reason before but it escapes me at the moment. I agree no major differences though.
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It has occurred to me that with all this talk and hype regarding the Desire and the N1 that the Incredible has suddenly become a back-burner dark horse. Just because there have been a few photos of it floated around with an odd-colored back plate doesn't necessarily mean that Big Red won't have it spruced up by its release date. I mean, the Desire came out of NOWHERE and blew all the other phones out of the water - literally overnight. Who's to say that the final version of the Incredible won't be stellar as well? HTC and Verizon still have time, and I'm sure that group of collaborators has taken notice of everyone falling all over themselves regarding the looks and specs of the Desire. I mean, you don't call your product "The Incredible" and then don't have the balls to back it up, right?

Currently, the Desire is a pipe dream for the States, and the N1 won't have the support that I'd like to have. I have concluded that the Incredible is the phone that I will be anticipating the most.
I couldn't agree more...I haven't been in the mood/mind set to post comments, but I have been reading most of the posts in the past 5 days...I have to say there has been a good amount of Incredible bashing which is totally unwarranted because all the specs that have been released are just speculation. Like Montana said, no one really knows for sure what Verizon and HTC have up their sleeves in terms of the phones hardware and styling...the desire came out of nowhere and shocked us all, and the incredible could do the same over here in the states. And I've been studying the video and pics over the past few days, and I came to the conclusion that the sleek all black front with black optical track pad and capacitive touch buttons is drop dead sexy. IDK how someone could say its not...yea it does look iphone ish, but who cares...almost EVER full front touch screen phone looks iphone ish lol.
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The n1 will not change in appearance when it comes to VZW. I can swear by that.
Wouldn't you think they'd at least replace the track ball with an optical one?
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^ This is the Nexus one sold by Google. They wouldn't change anything. Can you imagine the customer loyalty -- it would go down the drain. You can't just give us a better version.
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I also think the N1 is the best bet to be released in the near future. The others are a quarter away.
Sounding more and more likely. But I'm still keeping my fingers crossed to see an Incredible late March.


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It has occurred to me that with all this talk and hype regarding the Desire and the N1 that the Incredible has suddenly become a back-burner dark horse. Just because there have been a few photos of it floated around with an odd-colored back plate doesn't necessarily mean that Big Red won't have it spruced up by its release date. I mean, the Desire came out of NOWHERE and blew all the other phones out of the water - literally overnight. Who's to say that the final version of the Incredible won't be stellar as well? HTC and Verizon still have time, and I'm sure that group of collaborators has taken notice of everyone falling all over themselves regarding the looks and specs of the Desire. I mean, you don't call your product "The Incredible" and then don't have the balls to back it up, right?

Currently, the Desire is a pipe dream for the States, and the N1 won't have the support that I'd like to have. I have concluded that the Incredible is the phone that I will be anticipating the most.
I really hope so, and being as they want to burn AT&T, I just do not think that any design team would make that a final design as well, maybe their holding out more to May/June to compete with an iPhone announcement.
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Currently, the Desire is a pipe dream for the States, and the N1 won't have the support that I'd like to have. I have concluded that the Incredible is the phone that I will be anticipating the most.
If the Incredible is the best bet we Verizon customers have, safe to say I'll be anticipating the new LTE network and the global compatibility it may offer. Time to go battery hunting for my razr.
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^ This is the Nexus one sold by Google. They wouldn't change anything. Can you imagine the customer loyalty -- it would go down the drain. You can't just give us a better version.
Yes, I know it's the Google phone. I just thought that when it goes to VZW, they might differentiate it a bit for them. Just sayin'.
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I keep looking at the images of the Incredible and then images of the Desire. The dual flashes on the back of the Incredible, the larger lens, the meatier back... I wouldn't be surprised if the Incredible ends up being the more feature rich of the two.

As for looks, oh well. I like the idea of having a monstorous looking phone as long as it kicks major ass to anything else around.
+1 That's exactly what I've been thinking. I just refuse to believe that the Incredible is as bland as everyone assumes it might be. I think Verizon has some tricks up their sleeves. That's just my opinion though. But you're right, the key words are "feature rich." Great point
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It has occurred to me that with all this talk and hype regarding the Desire and the N1 that the Incredible has suddenly become a back-burner dark horse. Just because there have been a few photos of it floated around with an odd-colored back plate doesn't necessarily mean that Big Red won't have it spruced up by its release date. I mean, the Desire came out of NOWHERE and blew all the other phones out of the water - literally overnight. Who's to say that the final version of the Incredible won't be stellar as well? HTC and Verizon still have time, and I'm sure that group of collaborators has taken notice of everyone falling all over themselves regarding the looks and specs of the Desire. I mean, you don't call your product "The Incredible" and then don't have the balls to back it up, right?

Currently, the Desire is a pipe dream for the States, and the N1 won't have the support that I'd like to have. I have concluded that the Incredible is the phone that I will be anticipating the most.
+1 You Montana boys sure do have a good head on your shoulders. Exactly what I've been thinking lately. I haven't been posting near as much as I was in the past, because I'm just kinda sitting back and waiting for the Incredible. It's going to be a fantastic phone and we are CERTAIN that it is coming to Verizon, because of the Verizon boot screen in the video. So...all of this talk about the desire is great and fun and interesting, but sorry to say so guys, I'm going to have to say that my current opinion is that the Incredible is going to beat the Desire in the specs department. The RAM is just speculation and hearsay, and what we've seen so far may be kinda tacky looking to some people, but look how much the Bravo/Desire changed from the first pictures we saw of it a few weeks ago to now. It changed IMMENSELY! If that can happen to the Bravo, now the Desire, think of what all can happen to the Incredible in a month's time or more. I'm full throttle about the Incredible. The rest of these phones are just an appetizer until the badass main course is brought out. (OK, that was kinda ***. haha)
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Glad to see the Incredible thread is back on the Incredible band wagon LOL
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+1 That's exactly what I've been thinking. I just refuse to believe that the Incredible is as bland as everyone assumes it might be. I think Verizon has some tricks up their sleeves. That's just my opinion though. But you're right, the key words are "feature rich." Great point
Although most of us prefer the Desire visually, following this thinking, if Verizon really is holding out on specs and this thing is truly INCREDIBLE...doesn't the minimal face and single pane of glass look of the Incredible lend itself to iPhone comparisons and potentially a generally accepted "iPhone killer"... I know, I know, I hate that phrase but looking at the big picture, ya know, the other 98% of phone buyers that is still the benchmark for a smart/media phone.
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+1 You Montana boys sure do have a good head on your shoulders. Exactly what I've been thinking lately. I haven't been posting near as much as I was in the past, because I'm just kinda sitting back and waiting for the Incredible. It's going to be a fantastic phone and we are CERTAIN that it is coming to Verizon, because of the Verizon boot screen in the video. So...all of this talk about the desire is great and fun and interesting, but sorry to say so guys, I'm going to have to say that my current opinion is that the Incredible is going to beat the Desire in the specs department. The RAM is just speculation and hearsay, and what we've seen so far may be kinda tacky looking to some people, but look how much the Bravo/Desire changed from the first pictures we saw of it a few weeks ago to now. It changed IMMENSELY! If that can happen to the Bravo, now the Desire, think of what all can happen to the Incredible in a month's time or more. I'm full throttle about the Incredible. The rest of these phones are just an appetizer until the badass main course is brought out. (OK, that was kinda ***. haha)
I like your attitude lol
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For those looking at the eris to hold them- users are reporting getting the 2.1 update!

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MontanaMan, you make great points!
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Oh interesting on the Eris... I've pondered picking one up off ebay just to mess with.
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