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Old April 2nd, 2010, 01:37 PM   #22051 (permalink)
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kcoan3, I have always been a proponent that the name will change but after seeing this, do you think it is likely they will actually keep the name?

Edit: Nevermind, I see you answered my question above. Thanks again!!
Well, since they aren't calling Devour the Calgary, I'd say the Cellebrite listing still gives no credence to keeping the name Incredible.

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-yea.. no guarantees on a date but for reference, the devour showed up as the calgary in the cellebrite about a week before it was released. I will still continue to bug my source tho..

-a cellbrite machine is something vzw uses to transfer numbers and photos between phones...


EDIT :-still no guarantees they call it the incredible but as it gets closer its looking better and better

You may not have looked at this, but do you happen to know when the Devour went from Calgary to Devour in that system? Was it before the official Announcment or the more likely scenario was changed to Devour After the official announcement, but before the release?
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It has other carriers phones listed on there because if a sprint customer came in to a Verizon store and wanted to sigh up with Verizon they would be able to transfer their info from their sprint phone onto their Verizon phone.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Appreciate what you are doing but, a dumb question...why is the HTC Mogul on there if it's a Sprint phone? Am I just missing something?
so when people decide to switch over from sprint they can save their shit.
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LOOKEY WHAT I FOUND!!! I did a little digging today and found that the cellebrite machine needed to be updated... no big deal. So after the update I checked for our baby and low and behold!!! IT WAS THERE!!!. So what does this mean??? It means that WE ARE CLOSE TO RELEASE!!!! Just another nail in the coffin. here is the pic for proof...





sorry if this has been posted already..
This is a true representation of what the cellbrite display screen looks like in retail.
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It is has something to do with erectile dysfunction (seriously though here is a link describing what it is: Cellebrite machine outs Motorola Calgary/Devour for Verizon (Phone Arena News)

This would be bad news cause according some comments on that link this was a repost of an earlier siting back in October. Devour just came out last month and showed up in Cellebrite 5 months prior to release.
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Isn't the Mogul, or vx6800 on vzw too?
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You may not have looked at this, but do you happen to know when the Devour went from Calgary to Devour in that system? Was it before the official Announcment or the more likely scenario was changed to Devour After the official announcement, but before the release?
Having a source check his all cellbrite machine for me for confirmation. He will also check OLT system for online trainings.
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Isn't the Mogul, or vx6800 on vzw too?
Yup - mine is on its last legs.
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This is a true representation of what the cellbrite display screen looks like in retail.
Maybe the major sites are gonna be a little gunshy about automatically posting information from this thread to their sites after last night's debacle. I give it till 2:00 Central time.
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kcoan3, There have been rumors that the N1 will relaese at the same time as the Incredible and that it will be serviced in-store. Can you confirm whether or not the N1 is in the Cellebrite system at this time?
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Published on: 21 January, 2010 by PhoneArena Team

and my souce submitted that photo to android central....
Yeah, but what about this one on Oct 13?
Motorola Sholes and Calgary appear on Verizon's internal screens (Phone Arena News)
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Additionally, I use my phone for business. I cannot tolerate ONE DROPPED CALL!

Until 2000 I was with Cingular (now ATT), I was shocked that there were people actually getting service INSIDE STORES! Turns out it was VZ customers. I've switched and have never looked back. If I get one dropped call in two months, now, I'm peeved.

Finally, VZ has been very, very good to me. They've bent over backwards to help me out when I've done stupid things, such as losing my xv 6900. They gave me another one for a two year contract price just 4 months after I got the original one at the two year contract price!!!

They've done several things like that for me. I know that I am a high paying customer, who pays on time, etc, but they really have bent over backwards. They just never had the good smartphones, until now.

They are now teasing us with two or three state of the art phones. I can't wait. Literally. I can't. Am I complaining about not getting the Incredible, bitterly? Uh huh. Do I love VZ. I do.
I get it Steven....and understand you have multiple phones with your entire family on Verizon. For you it probably doesn't make sense. That's why I said...it's not going to be for everyone. But for some...in a WiMax area...it may be a killer deal! And as far as dropped calls...I exaggerated a bit to be fair....but I probably only get about 1 or 2 calls at most dropped per month. I'm not even sure that has been because of Sprint since I work at a job where there can be a bit of interference.

Btw....I've only been scanning the threads here today. I've really enjoyed the people, the sleuths, and the humor here. And I am still very curious about the Incredible. So anyway....I scanned and saw a lot of talk about hdmi. I assume it's already been mentioned...but the EVO 4G has this capability too. Really, if that phone were coming to Verizon....a good many of you would be wetting themselves. For people like me...happy with Sprint...it's an alternative. I'm still not sure about the larger size and how that will feel in hand...but I'm leaning that way. And it looks like you guys are getting your phone soon. And to be honest....I may break down and join you...been waiting a long time. But my lust over WiMax and a cheaper plan is very real. Anyway, I won't bore you with this anymore. I just think a few people here...NOT EVERYONE....would be quite surprised to see the new videos of the EVO and how much it is a very cool phone. Back to lurking...Adios!
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Used in store to transfer data from old phone to new phone
Okej, I get what Cellebrite is now.

If I understand it correctly, the list shows possible phones to transer data to/from? or is it some kind of history of latest transfers?

And someone with access to the Cellebrite device at Verizon has taken a picture of it?
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Sorry if this was already mentioned. I did a search and it looks like the Droid showed up in the Cellebrite system on Oct. 13 and was release on Nov. 6th wasn't it?

Verizon employees see the Motorola Sholes and Calgary emerge in internal tools? Boy Genius Report

Not that it gives any solid info, as the length until release is different for each phone.

(edited to fix typo above)
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This would be bad news cause according some comments on that link this was a repost of an earlier siting back in October. Devour just came out last month and showed up in Cellebrite 5 months prior to release.
"Sholes" (early codename for Droid) and "Calgary" (Devour) showed up at the same time on the Cellebrite, according to the old articles. Droid launched 3 weeks later, while the Devour launched months later.

MY INTERPRETATION: Both phones were ready around the same time, but VZW decided to do a timed launch for some reason. This seems to just be a good indicator that the phone is ready to launch, not that VZW is ready to launch the phone. Still good to know, nonetheless!
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Okej, I get what Cellebrite is now.

If I understand it correctly, the list shows possible phones to transer data to/from? or is som kind of history of latest transfers?

And someone with access to the Cellebrite device at Verizon has taken a picture of it?
I don't know about history, but the rest is correct
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correct me if I'm wrong....

(and sorry if I'm getting OT on this as this is moot since apparently the Incredible won't have HDMI, so I promise this is my last post pertaining to this!!)

...but if we were to purchase a 32 Gb micro SD card for the phone and just keep a few videos stored on there at a time, there shouldn't be any problem in storing them in their native resolution and replaying them in their full glory on a HDTV?
No so long as there's a program to decode it and the bitrate isn't too high for the phone. It may be at this time that full res movies are too much for the hardware. I really don't know. I do know the PSP had problems with that.
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"Sholes" (early codename for Droid) and "Calgary" (Devour) showed up at the same time on the Cellebrite, according to the old articles. Droid launched 3 weeks later, while the Devour launched months later.

MY INTERPRETATION: Both phones were ready around the same time, but VZW decided to do a timed launch for some reason. This seems to just be a good indicator that the phone is ready to launch, not that VZW is ready to launch the phone. Still good to know, nonetheless!
Agreed, at the same time Verizon was launching a whole marketing campaign around Droid's release. If they don't do anything super special like that for the Incredible, I'd imagine we could see her sooner than later, within a week or two tops I'd hope.
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and my souce submitted that photo to android central....
So that cellebrite photo, was released Jan 21? -so the INC has been in the system that long?

That'd put our INC in the system for about as long as the Devour prior to release if we get a late April launch
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the N1 is in the cellbrite.. but it could just be in there because its avaliable on other carriers. and we have know idea if it will be serviced in stores..

my bet is no
A retail store manager of mine has said the N1 will not be sold in stores. As far as support, she said that she hasn't received that info.
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which leads me to ask, now that things are headed in a positive direction:

What browser do you all plan on using for the Incredible?

What would be the most functional?

Meaning:

I've always used Firefox for the computer, found it to be infinitely superior to IE. But I hear all kinds of browsers being bandied about lately....
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So that cellebrite photo, was released Jan 21? -so the INC has been in the system that long?

That'd put our INC in the system for about as long as the Devour prior to release if we get a late April launch

No, the 1/21 date was for the Calgary but actually it was posted prior to that in October.
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NO NO NO ... lol the incredible photo was taken today.. the other one about the calgary was taken in january
Ok ok. Thanks for clearing that up - Haven't had enough caffiene yet today.
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Unfortunately, testman has been up and down for months now, and has never given us any hope for the Incredible. So I say 'no'.
Didn't the testman site have a promo up for the Incredible briefly? I thought someone posted a screenshot yesterday?? I saw it on the Internet so it must be true, right???
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I sense Verizon has never been too enthusiastic about this whole N1 thing, anyway, what with Google handling all the sales. Maybe that's why all along they've been simultaneously developing the Incredible.

After all, besides me, who else is going to be so enthusiastic about buying a phone they've never touched?

Case in point, I was in NYC last weekend and saw a T-Mobile store and wanted to show my wife the N1. Oops, stupid me! You have to buy it from Google. What the hell kind of marketing campaign is that?
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One change I feel Google should make going forward with their new phone marketing campaign (& hire), is to have a display unit in all the carrier stores that will allow it. Now, some carriers may not agree to put out display units that they can't sell directly, but some would. I think that would drive their sales higher. In addition, if they could negotiate with the carriers to put a Google kiosk in stores, customers would be able to order right after getting to touch and try out the N1, N2, etc.

My guess on what appears to be Verizon's lack of enthusiasm for getting the N1 available asap is one or both of; (1) they are requiring that certain bugs be fixed before they allow the phone on their network - a reputation thing, or (2) they don't want to make it too good of a situation for Google and have them do extremely well due to the fear of potential direct competition in the future. These carriers are leery as to where Google is going in the wireless business. If they help them achieve certain milestones, will Google just turnaround and thanks - now we're going it on our own...? Kind of a love/hate relationship...?

All just theory and speculation on my part...
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Didn't the testman site have a promo up for the Incredible briefly? I thought someone posted a screenshot yesterday?? I saw it on the Internet so it must be true, right???
was a very obvious april fools
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which leads me to ask, now that things are headed in a positive direction:

What browser do you all plan on using for the Incredible?

What would be the most functional?
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Hey everybody -

I am a long time lurker and this is my first post. I have an LG Dare and it has served me well, but I want to upgrade to Android. I was extremely close (in the store, waiting to see a rep) to getting the Moto Droid back in November but decided to wait for something similar (meaning Android, awesome huge screen) but without the clunky and unnecessary keyoard. I heard something like that was coming (Passion, Bravo, etc) and eventually stumbled onto this forum and have been reading it non-stop for about 3 weeks. A lot of you guys and gals are really funny.

In response to the quote above, I just wanted to point out that from what I have read, the Shadow does not have a keyboard. A lot of people are getting the Shadow and the possible Droid 2 confused. I don't mean to call anybody out for a mistake in my first post - just trying to clear up some confusion

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which leads me to ask, now that things are headed in a positive direction:

What browser do you all plan on using for the Incredible?

What would be the most functional?

Meaning:

I've always used Firefox for the computer, found it to be infinitely superior to IE. But I hear all kinds of browsers being bandied about lately....
Opera, Firefox, and Skyfire all available on Android. I'll take all three please I love how no one is telling us which browser we must use. *cough*Apple*cough*Microsoft*cough*

Yes you heard that right. Microsoft is blocking third party browsers on Mobile 7.
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If native multi touch: Native Browser then Fennec
Native multi touch disabled: Dolphin then Fennec
I'm beginning to think I'm the only one out there who strongly dislikes Dolphin. Sure, it has multitouch, but it's very unpolished.

Stock browser will definitely have multitouch since this is running Sense (and the stock 2.1 phones have multitouch too).

Stock browser > all others for the time being. That could all change after further development of Fennec, though!
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does the "OU" in your username = Sooners fan?
I hope so that would make 2 of us lol I have season tkts.
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i'm beginning to think i'm the only one out there who strongly dislikes dolphin. Sure, it has multitouch, but it's very unpolished.

Stock browser will definitely have multitouch since this is running sense (and the stock 2.1 phones have multitouch too).

Stock browser > all others for the time being. That could all change after further development of fennec, though!
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I don't know how others feel, but I would never buy a phone on the internet. I like the fact that when I buy a phone at a verizon store that they will service or exchange my phone right there. Personal service... I love it!
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Completely agree.
not me. I wouldn't a problem buying online at all. I can see why many folks would, but I spend A LOT of time looking at specs, features, measurements, etc, that I would be comfortable doing it. Now, if you didn't have at least a 14-day return (no costs!) policy, I would not be one of the firsts. I would wait to read other's reviews and comments.

I buy so much stuff online these days, it's just no big deal for me.
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This is why I want an android phone because it appears that Google is providing a lot of freedom to developers to do as they wish with total competition.

MS makes you use there browser and Apple makes you use their lousy safari browser.

Android also has a larger app market than MS does. I hate apple so iphone isn't an option.

I want to be able to walk in a verizon store and upgrade my phone to a smart phone. Hence my excitement for the incredible.

I plan on using the phone as my gps, mp3 player, pda, and of course phone.

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Opera, Firefox, and Skyfire all available on Android. I'll take all three please I love how no one is telling us which browser we must use. *cough*Apple*cough*Microsoft*cough*

Yes you heard that right. Microsoft is blocking third party browsers on Mobile 7.
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a couple of thoughts on this...

One change I feel Google should make going forward with their new phone marketing campaign (& hire), is to have a display unit in all the carrier stores that will allow it. Now, some carriers may not agree to put out display units that they can't sell directly, but some would. I think that would drive their sales higher. In addition, if they could negotiate with the carriers to put a Google kiosk in stores, customers would be able to order right after getting to touch and try out the N1, N2, etc.

My guess on what appears to be Verizon's lack of enthusiasm for getting the N1 available asap is one or both of; (1) they are requiring that certain bugs be fixed before they allow the phone on their network - a reputation thing, or (2) they don't want to make it too good of a situation for Google and have them do extremely well due to the fear of potential direct competition in the future. These carriers are leery as to where Google is going in the wireless business. If they help them achieve certain milestones, will Google just turnaround and thanks - now we're going it on our own...? Kind of a love/hate relationship...?

All just theory and speculation on my part...
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does the "OU" in your username = Sooners fan?
Actually I am a graduate of Oakland University in suburban Detroit. You may have seen our team get smoked by Pittsburgh in the first round of the NCAA tournament this year.
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Actually I am a graduate of Oakland University in suburban Detroit. You may have seen our team get smoked by Pittsburgh in the first round of the NCAA tournament this year.
Or by North Carolina in the first round a few years ago.
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Alright, everyone have a great weekend, I'm on my way out the office door to see the soon to be misses. I've got a 4hr drive ahead of me, so prob. won't be back on until Sunday evening. Lets hope for good things, maybe the Easter Bunny will leave us a late present that isn't rabbit crap and resembles an Incredible.

If not, that rabbit will look mighty fine on my plate next to my mashed potatoes.
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Or by North Carolina in the first round a few years ago.
Correct.

But for a small commuter school, just making the tournament twice in 5 years is a pretty good accomplishment, right?

Edit: For those of you who don't care at all about the INCREDIBLE NCAA tournament, I am sorry for the OT banter!
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not me. I wouldn't a problem buying online at all. I can see why many folks would, but I spend A LOT of time looking at specs, features, measurements, etc, that I would be comfortable doing it. Now, if you didn't have at least a 14-day return (no costs!) policy, I would not be one of the firsts. I would wait to read other's reviews and comments.

I buy so much stuff online these days, it's just no big deal for me.
I don't buy all that much online... but after waiting for now a full year with my new every 2 ready.. i know this phone is what I want. I plan on ordering it the second it's available and not looking back.
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Alright, everyone have a great weekend, I'm on my way out the office door to see the soon to be misses. I've got a 4hr drive ahead of me, so prob. won't be back on until Sunday evening. Lets hope for good things, maybe the Easter Bunny will leave us a late present that isn't rabbit crap and resembles an Incredible.

If not, that rabbit will look mighty fine on my plate next to my mashed potatoes.
You too!

I'm heading out to spend some quality time with BOB (big orange ball) and the fam.

We'll reconvene Monday
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Correct.

But for a small commuter school, just making the tournament twice in 5 years is a pretty good accomplishment, right?
I came from a school in the Summit League.....South Dakota State University.
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I've been lurking for a couple of months now - here's the first official post:

Finally couldn't take it anymore after several visits to local stores where I, like many of you, have been unable to get any concrete information. So (why didn't I think of this earlier), I had someone in our IT group send an email to our Verizon sales rep about this phone that is making us all crazy. He stated that he doesn't have a release date, that it is "in testing" and he would put us on the list so that when he can take orders, we'll be first in line.

For various reasons, that does me no good, because corporately we're ditching our Blackberry Server and are requiring everyone to go to their own mobile device - this month! So I called the man, explained my situation and let him know that I needed something more concrete - that if Verizon wasn't in a position to provide worthy competitors to the EVO and iPhone, that I simply had to tell my employees to explore other options. I told him that I understand he probably doesn't have specific dates, but should have an idea, and if this phone is coming soon, he should tell me to "take a deep breath."

His response? "Take a deep breath." But then - and this is where it makes me crazy - he tells me that he knows they have the phones in the warehouse! Where do you think he got that bit of April Fool's goodness? Exactly...hold on, it gets better...

He said that he talked to a QA tester yesterday that has had the phone in his hands for TWO MONTHS!?!? Based on that conversation, he suggests that the rumors circulating for 3rd to 4th week of April release fall in line with what QA is saying.

So what did I learn? Well, I am more hopeful about an April reality now...maybe foolishly so. I also feel like I'm in the middle of this crazy information time-warp where the rumors (and April Fool's jokes) are actually being quoted by Verizon employees as fact - off the record of course.

I'm not sure I can make it another three weeks...
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a couple of thoughts on this...

One change I feel Google should make going forward with their new phone marketing campaign (& hire), is to have a display unit in all the carrier stores that will allow it. Now, some carriers may not agree to put out display units that they can't sell directly, but some would. I think that would drive their sales higher. In addition, if they could negotiate with the carriers to put a Google kiosk in stores, customers would be able to order right after getting to touch and try out the N1, N2, etc.

My guess on what appears to be Verizon's lack of enthusiasm for getting the N1 available asap is one or both of; (1) they are requiring that certain bugs be fixed before they allow the phone on their network - a reputation thing, or (2) they don't want to make it too good of a situation for Google and have them do extremely well due to the fear of potential direct competition in the future. These carriers are leery as to where Google is going in the wireless business. If they help them achieve certain milestones, will Google just turnaround and thanks - now we're going it on our own...? Kind of a love/hate relationship...?

All just theory and speculation on my part...
I agree with you that the N1, though it may not ever be sold in stores, they should at least have a test unit, or Google kiosk. It's not to much to ask for consumers to buy online, or I'm sure people have had phones shipped to them from their carrier etc. VZW could help you purchase the phone, through Google online, and have it shipped to you. I don't think customers would be that weird about it.

Why isn't the N1 available...I think the multitouch screen issue is a big reason. I haven't checked to see if that has been solved yet, but I would bet that VZW doesn't want to sell a phone like the N1, which lets face it is almost strictly targeting the type of people on this forum, the type of people who care about specs, and who would most certainly care about the screen issue with multitouch issues.

Are they afraid Google will eventually just turn on them and start offering their own service, no. Not a chance, yet. They support Droid full on, the N1, is just another phone running android. Verizon sells 3 of those already.

I would say the direct competition between releasing the N1 and the Incredible in the same time period would make it tough to sell N1 units. Maybe Google is holding out...the N1 and the Incredible are 2 similar devices and it would be hard for sales to sell one against the other (and the Incredible being in stores would mean it would probably win).
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