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Old April 2nd, 2010, 04:32 PM   #22201 (permalink)
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Sorry Steven.........I've never done this before Have a great weekend.
lol, he'll still have trouble reading this...

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maybe it will be announced on monday
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Just saw this a few moments ago. Seems Apple is trying to pee in the corn flakes again.

Verizon Nexus One Release Update: Import Restrictions To U.S.

Hopefully their suit fails. Wonder what would happen if some of us users started filing suit against Apple for holding up progress and preventing fair competition by trying to create a smartphone monopoly. I wonder if a few hundred folks did that if they'd get the idea?

(just pondering, don't take my idea too seriously, but I am really tired of Apple stomping on any competition they face. Competition means better, less expensive things for us consumers.)
Well thats interesting because they are after the HTC phones namely running Android and even more specific probably sense. They can't hault all HTC phone imports because HTC does make other phones that don't run android (which is what Apple is suing over). At least that's how I have read the situation. Most of the patent infringements are towards Android, and since its not against Google, I assume they are attacking Sense.

I wouldn't worry about that situation just yet. When it gets to a point of concern, you can bet Google will step in and defend their open platform.
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I established my credentials with an actual photo of proof. I have nothing to prove to anyone. The photo I submitted is 100% real.
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There's been 2 pics from separate sources which is why we assume its confirmed. Did you do a manual update or did it ask you for an update? Maybe said update hasn't been pushed to your machine yet.

Just a thought.
Those 2 pics appear to be one in the same just cropped differently.
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I did a manual, maybe they're rolling the update out slowly but there's no point to do that, if there's 2 separate pics than maybe I'll try again tomorrow. It said there was a new update available from last night, early morning, like 4/02 at 2AM, but no Incredible from update... Maybe mine is just being ******ed
Or, maybe they aren't shipping any to Milwaukee so they didn't figure your machine needed that update
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You know, I've been saving money for the incredible thinking I wouldn't have enough money, now I have like $700 in my jar of savings
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Those 2 pics appear to be one in the same just cropped differently.
They are two different photos, the one that's close up is even more in focus than the other picture. It's pretty obvious they are two different pictures.
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Welcome, Mom. Thank you for the info. Just a request, when you post, would you mind using the regular font? I'm 51 and need reading glasses for small things. Regular font is ok for me here, but I couldn't read the font you selected. Thanks!

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ROFL!!! I thought I was the only one having problems with that post! Dammit where are my reading glasses... i had them 5 min ago. Can't see to find the damn things!
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I tried to post this earlier. Damn Storm.

Anyway, I spoke to a new source a while ago. An assistant retail manager who knew nothing about the Incredible.

But more importantly, I wanted to remind everyone of the annual upgrade.

For those of u who are not eligible for a regular every 20 months upgrade, don't forget that the primary line on a plan of 39.99 or higher is eligible for an annual upgrade every 12 months. So if ur family all got new phones a year ago today, you should have ONE line that is eligible to upgrade right away. The annual upgrade costs $20 in addition to the regular sale price of the device.

An annual upgrade will erase your current contract and start an new 24 mth contract (but of course we know that line will be eligible in 12 months).

PLUS...DON'T FORGET if u have gotten the motoDroid or the Eris to get u by until the Incredible appears, just go back to your old phone. Your money will be refunded and your contract will be erased. Then u will be eligible for the Incredible when it is released. No need to exchange or keep some phone u r not satisfied with. GO BACK TO UR OLD DEVICE!
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FYI..............

On Wednesday I signed another two year contract with Verizon and got the Eris (loved the functionality of the Droid, but hated how big it was - looked too clunky for a female). Needless to say I enjoy playing on the Eris BUT (and a big BUT here) the battery life is TERRIBLE.

I showed my neighbor my new phone (he is a major gadget geek) and his comment was, "Why did you buy that? Verizon has some new phones coming out anytime!" I immediately called the manager at the Verizon store (he was the one who helped me with my Eris). I explained the battery life, etc and then asked about the Incredible. I told him that I wanted to return my phone. He said hang onto it for a couple of weeks and swap it when they were available. I said "Are you sure it will be in before my 30 days are up?" His response was, "YES!" He said to give it a couple of weeks and to play around with the Eris in the meantime (I came from a BB and am not very technically savvy).
sounds more as if he's trying to make it so you'll forget to return it and be stuck w/ something you really don't want.

Although, everything I'm seeing here and from a mutual friend irl the Inc is supposed to be out before end of month.

Though he states he likes his droid better, but then not everyone will like the same thing.






and before it's asked yes hes testing it, no he won't bring the phone out and show it around or give anything other than a smirk /bleh
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HA ha! This is the best line: "the HTC Incredible, of which Verizon is hoarding 156,709 units in some dank warehouse"
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Well thats interesting because they are after the HTC phones namely running Android and even more specific probably sense. They can't hault all HTC phone imports because HTC does make other phones that don't run android (which is what Apple is suing over). At least that's how I have read the situation. Most of the patent infringements are towards Android, and since its not against Google, I assume they are attacking Sense.

I wouldn't worry about that situation just yet. When it gets to a point of concern, you can bet Google will step in and defend their open platform.
Actually, it's all about Google, and Android. The NY Times had an excellent article about 3 wks ago on the Apple-Google relationship. Revealed some inside info about their whole history, including a quote of Steve Jobs saying "if you implement multi-touch, I'll sue you!"... read at the link if interested.

I for one, believe there is ZERO chance that this import ban that Apple is requesting has any chance of success. Not worried in the least...

Apple?s Spat With Google Is Getting Personal - NYTimes.com
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I just talked to my friend who is an area manager with Verizon in Hawaii and he did confirm that the incredible is in the warehouse, but he doesn't know which one. He told me the delay in releasing the incredible is do to the Google N1 phone and Verizon has been bickering with Google about carrying the N1 in the store and going back and forth. He said it would be released soon and he will be in his store on Tuesday and will check the system and call me with any news. He will call me when the phone is going to be released too so I can get one from him.

He also said that he has the Eris and has not been happy with it and is also waiting for the Incredible.
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Actually, it's all about Google, and Android. The NY Times had an excellent article about 3 wks ago on the Apple-Google relationship. Revealed some inside info about their whole history, including a quote of Steve Jobs saying "if you implement multi-touch, I'll sue you!"... read at the link if interested.

I for one, believe there is ZERO chance that this import ban that Apple is requesting has any chance of success. Not worried in the least...
Oh I agree Apple's beef is with Google, not with HTC. But they attacked HTC, not Google directly. They could have sued Google for their OS infringing on their patents (which seem to present in all flavors of Android) but they did not. Which I find interesting, clearly they are afraid of that scenario. Either way its a lose lose situation, and the best thing that could happen is we get the patent rules/guidelines overhauled. Some of those patents are just silly.

Here's the link to Engadgets breakdown of the patents in question...

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/02/apple-vs-htc-a-patent-breakdown/

Basically its an attack on Android and Google directed through HTC. I'm just waiting for Google to step in, though they are not legally obliged to do so.
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Wooo hooooo!!!
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I am an attorney and while I do not directly deal in patents, I do have a good overall understanding of the relief Apple is seeking and the underlying issues. My take: it's a longshot for Apple, at best. Time will tell...
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I just talked to my friend who is an area manager with Verizon in Hawaii and he did confirm that the incredible is in the warehouse, but he doesn't know which one. He told me the delay in releasing the incredible is do to the Google N1 phone and Verizon has been bickering with Google about carrying the N1 in the store and going back and forth. He said it would be released soon and he will be in his store on Tuesday and will check the system and call me with any news. He will call me when the phone is going to be released too so I can get one from him.

He also said that he has the Eris and has not been happy with it and is also waiting for the Incredible.
I wonder which VZ CSR to believe.

They're coming out in March, April, May, June and August and January.....
They're not coming out because the N1. because of the fight with Steve Jobs, they're not coming out because of a problem in the software/hardware.

They're in the warehouse, The're still in Taiwan,.........


and so my head spins!
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I want a freaking phone..........we can dig up all this info but not a release date lol

I appreciate all the work, but it's only clarifying like the "within two weeks" thing............is it that difficult for someone to maybe know someone? that knows the release date and is willing to share it with us?

pwettyy pweaseee

btw was shopping the whole day so yea, i missed a lot but read all the important stuff with a lot of thanks.
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I want a freaking phone..........we can dig up all this info but not a release date lol

I appreciate all the work, but it's only clarifying like the "within two weeks" thing............is it that difficult for someone to maybe know someone? that knows the release date and is willing to share it with us?

pwettyy pweaseee

btw was shopping the whole day so yea, i missed a lot but read all the important stuff with a lot of thanks.
it's been an increeeeeeeddddiiiibbbllllyyyy lllllllooooooooooonnnnnnnnnngggggggg 2 weeks
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Not to name names or try to flame anyone, I just find it odd that the majority of the people who get positive news (i.e. just talked to a manager/csr/friend-who-knew-a-guy-that-dated-a-girl) have a relatively low post count or are "first time , long-timers" the cynic in me is telling me to take what they say at it's face value but the Steven58 in me wants to throw them a ticker tape parade. Just saying I can't be the only one that feels this way...
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Not to name names or try to flame anyone, I just find it odd that the majority of the people who get positive news (i.e. just talked to a manager/csr/friend-who-knew-a-guy-that-dated-a-girl) have a relatively low post count or are "first time , long-timers" the cynic in me is telling me to take what they say at it's face value but the Steven58 in me wants to throw them a ticker tape parade. Just saying I can't be the only one that feels this way...
wait.....what am i doing "in" you?
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I tried to post this earlier. Damn Storm.

Anyway, I spoke to a new source a while ago. An assistant retail manager who knew nothing about the Incredible.

But more importantly, I wanted to remind everyone of the annual upgrade.

For those of u who are not eligible for a regular every 20 months upgrade, don't forget that the primary line on a plan of 39.99 or higher is eligible for an annual upgrade every 12 months. So if ur family all got new phones a year ago today, you should have ONE line that is eligible to upgrade right away. The annual upgrade costs $20 in addition to the regular sale price of the device.

An annual upgrade will erase your current contract and start an new 24 mth contract (but of course we know that line will be eligible in 12 months).

PLUS...DON'T FORGET if u have gotten the motoDroid or the Eris to get u by until the Incredible appears, just go back to your old phone. Your money will be refunded and your contract will be erased. Then u will be eligible for the Incredible when it is released. No need to exchange or keep some phone u r not satisfied with. GO BACK TO UR OLD DEVICE!
Just curious, you pay the extra 20 AND lose your NE2 no? (I have a friend that works for VZW, and I believe this is what she told me - and thus made it not worth upgrading every year)
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it's ok it was just the tip
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Not to name names or try to flame anyone, I just find it odd that the majority of the people who get positive news (i.e. just talked to a manager/csr/friend-who-knew-a-guy-that-dated-a-girl) have a relatively low post count or are "first time , long-timers" the cynic in me is telling me to take what they say at it's face value but the Steven58 in me wants to throw them a ticker tape parade. Just saying I can't be the only one that feels this way...
We were all once new members, so who cares. Most of the stories people are posting are similar anyways, and nothing new (directed towards the "Oh well my VZW CSR said this month!!!".. how many times have we heard that one?). Unless someone comes out and says "the release date is ____", there really isn't any problem with newcomers posting stories that have been beat down to a pulp.
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Those 2 pics appear to be one in the same just cropped differently.
It would appear that way probably because the cellebrite devices are pretty much identical to each other.

Plus the sources of each separate photo are very well trusted in this forum, so you have to take that into account. Add in the fact that AF and Berryscoop checked with their internal sources as well and got confirmation, you're talking about several different folks all confirming its existence in cellebrite. I'd say from that standpoint alone, there is a much higher likelihood that it is legitimate rather than it being a coordinated conspiracy between separate sources that probably don't know each other.
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That was............................









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I wonder which VZ CSR to believe.

They're coming out in March, April, May, June and August and January.....
They're not coming out because the N1. because of the fight with Steve Jobs, they're not coming out because of a problem in the software/hardware.

They're in the warehouse, The're still in Taiwan,.........


and so my head spins!
Exactly. I'm personally disregarding posts that come through people with friends working for Verizon. We've had lots of confirmation that they won't be told until the last minute, so if they give info it's not something from Verizon's corporate office. Once every 'my friend at Verizon' story is the same we'll know it's close. I think in most every case it's not posters or employees being malicious, they're trying to help as best they can, it's just that there's nothing real to offer at this point.

Until then, at least we're getting a bit of info today. It was great to see the Cellebrite photos, since it's been so long since there's been anything reported that wasn't speculation.
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We were all once new members, so who cares. Most of the stories people are posting are similar anyways, and nothing new (directed towards the "Oh well my VZW CSR said this month!!!".. how many times have we heard that one?). Unless someone comes out and says "the release date is ____", there really isn't any problem with newcomers posting stories that have been beat down to a pulp.
Believe you me, I enjoy hearing about other people's interactions with anyone that may have info regarding the incredible. I just really don't know how to take that info. Because it's never conscise and to the point and it all ways ends in a vague and amiguos way. I appreciate any and all info regarding the incredible I just hate hate hate getting my hopes up and am truly trying to stay detached from any info that isn't a sales receipt for the damn phone. I think I do my best to keep things light in this thread and I welcome all new comers, I was just merely stating how I felt about it and was trying to see if anyone felt the same as I do.
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Not to name names or try to flame anyone, I just find it odd that the majority of the people who get positive news (i.e. just talked to a manager/csr/friend-who-knew-a-guy-that-dated-a-girl) have a relatively low post count or are "first time , long-timers" the cynic in me is telling me to take what they say at it's face value but the Steven58 in me wants to throw them a ticker tape parade. Just saying I can't be the only one that feels this way...
I see what you're saying, but I tend to think that a lot of newer members are drawn to this site, lurk and read posts, and finally feel comfortable in telling their story when they feel as if they finally have something to add. There is always a comment or situation which led us all to jump from lurking status to trying to contribute or add to the discussion
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If the ITC's investigation concludes that HTC products violate Apple's patents, the body has the authority to bar the sale and importation of the products in the U.S. Such investigations typically take several months. The ITC said it would set a target date for completion of the investigation within 45 days of instituting it.

So, if I read this correctly, there is more than enough time for verizon to stop sitting on their hands and get these phones on the street.
But will they?
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Exactly. I'm personally disregarding posts that come through people with friends working for Verizon. We've had lots of confirmation that they won't be told until the last minute, so if they give info it's not something from Verizon's corporate office. Once every 'my friend at Verizon' story is the same we'll know it's close. I think in most every case it's not posters or employees being malicious, they're trying to help as best they can, it's just that there's nothing real to offer at this point.

Until then, at least we're getting a bit of info today. It was great to see the Cellebrite photos, since it's been so long since there's been anything reported that wasn't speculation.
Well, I'm not quite as skeptical, I just feel that perhaps some of those CSR's are getting their info. from us!
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meh it all won't matter as everyone here is gonna buy the HTC EVO 4g anyway when we find out that the incredible won't be out until October!

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Believe you me, I enjoy hearing about other people's interactions with anyone that may have info regarding the incredible. I just really don't know how to take that info. Because it's never conscise and to the point and it all ways ends in a vague and amibuos was. I appreciate any and all info regarding the incredible I just hate hate hate getting my hopes up and am truly trying to stay detached from any info that isn't a sales receipt for the damn phone. I think I do my best to keep things light in this thread and I welcome all new comers, I was just merely stating how I felt about it and was trying to see if anyone felt the same as I do.
I totally understand. And to be honest, I just skip over the posts about "well I went into my VZW store today and had a talk with the CSR and he said this month!" because they're pointless to me. And for the posts that seem to hold some value, I show my appreciation by "Thank"ing them, however still will have my reserves until its been officially announced. This does not mean I don't appreciate what others have tried to dig up, but at the same time, just like yourself, I want it to come out of the horse's mouth.
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I am done with this thread. At least for a while. Kappy is taking a week or so to clear his head. I was giving him a daily break down of the going ons in here. Could someone else please take over?
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If the ITC's investigation concludes that HTC products violate Apple's patents, the body has the authority to bar the sale and importation of the products in the U.S. Such investigations typically take several months. The ITC said it would set a target date for completion of the investigation within 45 days of instituting it.

So, if I read this correctly, there is more than enough time for verizon to stop sitting on their hands and get these phones on the street.
But will they?
Well after VZW is done sitting on their hands they will perform something that I like to call "the stranger" adn once that act is completed they have to clean up the mess make a sandwich and take a nap. After all that they may still have time to get a couple of phones out into the market.
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Well, I'm not quite as skeptical, I just feel that perhaps some of those CSR's are getting their info. from us!
Hehe. It probably sounded more harsh than I meant it. I appreciate the people's efforts, it's just that I think you're right. People either don't know, or they've read speculation here and then are reporting it as fact back.

Like TheGoatLantern and others, I just can't get back on the rollercoaster until I know the track doesn't disappear at the top of the ride.
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Hehe. It probably sounded more harsh than I meant it. I appreciate the people's efforts, it's just that I think you're right. People either don't know, or they've read speculation here and then are reporting it as fact back.

Like TheGoatLantern and others, I just can't get back on the rollercoaster until I know the track doesn't disappear at the top of the ride.
I am just trying to take it all in and make this thread as fun as possible, gotta do something while we wait, right?
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Here's what I see as the "truth" part of the CSR stories. We are hearing "two weeks." I got the same kind of thing from them when I asked them when the Pre Plus was going to come out.. So, I believe that part of it!

EDIT: they should make a movie about happening behind the scenes with this phone...the corporate drama!
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Well thats interesting because they are after the HTC phones namely running Android and even more specific probably sense. They can't hault all HTC phone imports because HTC does make other phones that don't run android (which is what Apple is suing over). At least that's how I have read the situation. Most of the patent infringements are towards Android, and since its not against Google, I assume they are attacking Sense.

I wouldn't worry about that situation just yet. When it gets to a point of concern, you can bet Google will step in and defend their open platform.
You are right on that one. Apple sued HTC because they are the "little guys" and they did not want to take on Google directly. HTC doesn't have what Google has: very deep pockets! Google can go toe to toe with Apple and the whole universe knows that. However, IMHO, if Google gets dragged into this it will be the mother of all corporate battles.
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Personally i don't care if the stories are truth or made up. They give me something to read and give hope even if its false hope that soon there will be a verizon incredible phone. Sit back and relax. Enjoy the posts for whatever they may be!
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Well after VZW is done sitting on their hands they will perform something that I like to call "the stranger" adn once that act is completed they have to clean up the mess make a sandwich and take a nap. After all that they may still have time to get a couple of phones out into the market.
Is it possible that Verizon is worried that if they sell more Android phones, and Apple should ultimately win their case (highly unlikely IMHO), they will be dragged into the whole mess as a co-conspirator? We're talking millions of dollars here.
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Not to name names or try to flame anyone, I just find it odd that the majority of the people who get positive news (i.e. just talked to a manager/csr/friend-who-knew-a-guy-that-dated-a-girl) have a relatively low post count or are "first time , long-timers" the cynic in me is telling me to take what they say at it's face value but the Steven58 in me wants to throw them a ticker tape parade. Just saying I can't be the only one that feels this way...
I've said before (and been thanked for the comment): in my experience, some of the best inside tips come from people with very few posts. Yes our resident insiders may get new information, but often new information comes to someone who doesn't regularly post here. They decide to share the leak, search for discussion boards, and find that this is the most active one.

To be honest, none of the long-time high-post-count folks in this thread -- other that NKT -- have demonstrated reliable access to non-public information.

Edited to add: I'm not demeaning our CSR contributors to this thread, but let's be honest: CSR information is one-step removed from public information anyway. When I refer to inside news, I mean stuff that comes from VZW or HTC technical departments, marketing departments, strategy departments, and QA testers.
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