How are the quotes so screwed up- now it looks like I asked that question.
What he meant was Verizon will be getting the N1 but will only be sold through Google And they will be getting the Incredible in stores ( that counts as both)
Edit:Oops- thanks dbag for fixing the quote
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As I said, some detailed info we might not get until close to launch. And sorry, I haven't been following everything for this phone as much as you guys so what is it that you want to specifically know about the ROM? I will have to double check on the camcorder resolutions, and yeah it will but I heard that CarWash.apk was a little buggy. Look for release version 1.14b in the next few days
do you have any idea on the price? will it have a 3.5mm headphone jack?
Guys, here is what I can tell you. I work for Verizon and we will be getting both. What you guys saw with that little information about the ESN and Programming and stuff is an extension of our Knowledge Base. There are hidden pages in InfoManager and there are quite a few I have found that no one on the internet even knows about yet. So yes, we are getting the Nexus One and the Incredible.
Now, on both of those pages, there is no release date or pricing yet. Because of people leaking information, there probably won't be much info until a few days before launch. Sometimes though, the user guides get posted up internally a few weeks before launch. Neither of these phone have the user guide posted yet.
Oh yes also, we will not be selling the Nexus One in the stores. Google.com/phones only. Any questions, please ask. I will do what I can to answer them.
With all respect, I don't understand why people are posting confirmed things over and over and over again.
[quote=pragmatous;517218]Rumor has it it's the nexus one and incredible; however, I would argue that perhaps it's the HTC Desire coming to Verizon.
I actually like the HTC desire :P
Ha Ha.... be careful.. this is how rumors get started. I wonder how long it will be before the "news" sites will be repoting that there is a ap for the Incredible so it will wash the car. and the Desire is coming!!! I hope my new Incredible will walk the dog for me... surely there is an ap for that?!
Rumor has it it's the nexus one and incredible; however, I would argue that perhaps it's the HTC Desire coming to Verizon.
I actually like the HTC desire :P
Ha Ha.... be careful.. this is how rumors get started. I wonder how long it will be before the "news" sites will be repoting that there is a ap for the Incredible so it will wash the car. and the Desire is coming!!! I hope my new Incredible will walk the dog for me... surely there is an ap for that?!
A blessed Easter to you guys! Off to church with the family. Reeling with Desire-N1-Incredible-in store, on-line, ROM, wash my car and walk my dog.....oh my,....how am I suppose to pay attention to the sermon??? Take some time off today to enjoy your own INCREDIBLE families.....
Breaking news from Verizon: "5 day online exclusive... get your hands on the LG enV touch $39.99".... are they kidding?
Even if I didn't know about the incredible... I would be like.... and? so? big deal!! I have been eligible for an upgrade for almost a year.... and I didn't buy it a year ago!!
hehe - Doesn't matter to me. The Desire is the phone i'm looking for exactly. If the Incredible is slightly better so be it. Has anyone looked at the Desire? Has almost the same look and specs as the incredible. With two exceptions; Desire has MORE RAM but LESS ROM.
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Ha Ha.... be careful.. this is how rumors get started. I wonder how long it will be before the "news" sites will be repoting that there is a ap for the Incredible so it will wash the car. and the Desire is coming!!! I hope my new Incredible will walk the dog for me... surely there is an ap for that?!
No mac's here!!! I wouldn't even know what to do with one if someone gave it to me. I have heard they are great for photo editing. so maybe... just sayin... oh nevermind.
Well.. have to get ready for Easter dinner... happy Easter all!!!
I hope when I get back someone will have been watching TV today and the announcement came out that the phone will be out to celebrate vzw's anniversary. Ahh what a NICE dream!!
On a side note... I am getting better at texting on the bb tour with the tiny little buttons... so maybe I will have an Incredible texting experience with the virtual keypad... the keys are at least bigger and don't require reading glasses to find the tiny little symbols... takes me forever to find the ? and the ! and the @.
Breaking news from Verizon: "5 day online exclusive... get your hands on the LG enV touch $39.99".... are they kidding?
Even if I didn't know about the incredible... I would be like.... and? so? big deal!! I have been eligible for an upgrade for almost a year.... and I didn't buy it a year ago!!
Everything is relative - my teenage daughter is pleading with me to order it while it's still on sale. I hate the fact that it requires even the $10 data plan (we have 6 kids, 2 family plans, those bills add up fast) but their "feature" phones are really pretty blah.
So... I am simply a lurker, although after everything got so crazy, I didn't lurk quite as much. So, if what I am about to say has already been said recently, I apologize because one would need to be a full-time lurker in order to truly keep up with this thread. Anyhoo, at church this morning, I talked to a Verizon manager and asked him "What can you tell me about the N1 or the Incredible?" He said, "I know about the Incredible, and it is supposed to be amazing, and it is supposed to be out next month." No denials, no probing necessary.
Anyways, thanks for eating up all of my spare time with this thread! And again, if this was useless info, please disregard and label me as a "one-post loser."
Breaking news from Verizon: "5 day online exclusive... get your hands on the LG enV touch $39.99".... are they kidding?
Even if I didn't know about the incredible... I would be like.... and? so? big deal!! I have been eligible for an upgrade for almost a year.... and I didn't buy it a year ago!!
it's actually free, not 40$, maybe they're clearing them out for that samsung reality we saw on the calendar? or better yet...the incredible! 4/5 is a monday (tomorrow) so maybe on tuesday they plan on releasing the incredible and reality? just wishful thinking..
Nevermind about the Desire - it has no 3g support in the US.
So that leaves me torn between the Nexus one and the incredible
"For those in the US, the Nexus One remains the obvious choice. The Desire lacks US 3G/UMTS support and HTC told us that they have no plans to release a specific version of the handset with that added in"
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So... I am simply a lurker, although after everything got so crazy, I didn't lurk quite as much. So, if what I am about to say has already been said recently, I apologize because one would need to be a full-time lurker in order to truly keep up with this thread. Anyhoo, at church this morning, I talked to a Verizon manager and asked him "What can you tell me about the N1 or the Incredible?" He said, "I know about the Incredible, and it is supposed to be amazing, and it is supposed to be out next month." No denials, no probing necessary.
Anyways, thanks for eating up all of my spare time with this thread! And again, if this was useless info, please disregard and label me as a "one-post loser."
Good day to all!
May I make a suggestion. The next time someone gets information from a Verizon manager or employee, please ask them if their info is from within the company, or from leaks on the net!
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May I make a suggestion. The next time someone gets information from a Verizon manager or employee, please ask them if their info is from within the company, or from leaks on the net!
The thing that I don't get why people don't understand is, the lower level employees/managers at the stores do not know anything about the Incredible.
The simple fact is, if they heard anything it would have leaked by now, so everything they are telling people is either speculation, rumors, or something that they have come up with on their own.
Verizon wouldn't tell their lower managers information about this, then believe it wasn't going to leak.
well it would take a while to summarize everything that has been said about the release date since that tidbit has been posted, so your best bet would be to just read back a few pages and see.
Basically, we still know nothing concrete in terms of the release date...just that it's "near," which we've been hearing for, oh, a few months now.
does anyone remember how the calendar said "additional android handset"
maybe that means the 28th is the launch of another android handset for april, meaning there will be one sooner in april than the 28th...?
Im not sure any phone can live up to all the hype this thread has built up. Sure its going to be a great phone but I already know I'm going to want the next best phone six months after getting the Incredible. Its inevitable. I just hope it doesnt disappoint me from the get go.
Everything is relative - my teenage daughter is pleading with me to order it while it's still on sale. I hate the fact that it requires even the $10 data plan (we have 6 kids, 2 family plans, those bills add up fast) but their "feature" phones are really pretty blah.
I agree it is a great phone for a teenager.... not to mention I was going to get one ....don't even get me started on the data plan thing.... that is what started this mess in the first place!! I got ticked when they required the data plans because I didn't want one but I decided if I have to pay for one I was going to get one that I could get some use out of because the 9.99 plan is a JOKE. So... I played right into Verizon's hands and am now paying for a 29.99 data plan. It started with the droid which I did not like and next thing I know I am obsessed with a phone that does not exist. and.... end up stuck witha bb tour while I wait. I suppose I could have hooked my dare back up.
It really tickes me off that they think they get to dictate to me that I HAVE to provide my 10 year old with internet access. I especially love the part where I can block it but pay for it anyway. If it were not for the fact that verizon is the only one around here with decent service.. well Alltel is pretty good here but they are becoming AT&T in this area... but every one I know is on verizon and I would lose the free m2m minutes and we use a ton, I would have jumped ship just over the principle of the thing. I got scared of the my circle that we would not have enough of them to put everyone we talk to on. The LAST I wanted was to increase my bill. I definately feel for anyone who has kids on a family plan expecially more than one. Right now it doesn't make that much difference to me because "father of the year" hooked up her phone, got her internet access, and pays the bill... but if he decides he isn't going to to it anymore I will be stuck and the "simple" phones suck!!
So here I am on Easter Sunday on here discussing an incredible yet invisible phone ..... dinner plans have changed so I am waiting for guests... and we all know miracles happen on Easter.... soooo.....I would love an incredible one.
Ya we can speculate until we start guessing that if the planets align just right and if jupiter matches up with the headquarters of verizon then maybe that means release is soon.
I mean really speculation is cool at first but after awhile it starts to sound like crazy talk.
I was playing with my brothers Moto droid the other day and man that phone is really cool. I'm very excited about getting my first smart phone and looking forward to whatever it is I end up getting.
Honestly anything I get is going to be better than what I have now. I have the envy 2. So I think I'd be happy with the moto droid, nexus one, or Incredible. However I really want the snapdragon processor.
Maybe if someone has experience with Sense UI they can elaborate their experience with it? The default UI is pretty basic I think - how does it compare to sense UI?
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does anyone remember how the calendar said "additional android handset"
maybe that means the 28th is the launch of another android handset for april, meaning there will be one sooner in april than the 28th...?
As long as you get a phone with the snapdragon processor you'll be fine. Hopefully not down clocked. the 1ghz processor should be fine for all apps out today and anything in the future for awhile.
I saw the size of apps in the android market and there isn't going to be any apps that is going to use up all 512MB(320 free) of RAM.
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Im not sure any phone can live up to all the hype this thread has built up. Sure its going to be a great phone but I already know I'm going to want the next best phone six months after getting the Incredible. Its inevitable. I just hope it doesnt disappoint me from the get go.
Im not sure any phone can live up to all the hype this thread has built up. Sure its going to be a great phone but I already know I'm going to want the next best phone six months after getting the Incredible. Its inevitable. I just hope it doesnt disappoint me from the get go.
Not me!!! I plan to keep my incredible for a long time... and I will NEVER look on the net for new phones coming out!!! Too stressful and I am too impatient and it takes way too much time out of my day to be glued to this forum speculating on when the phone is getting released. After this one... the next phone I get will be sitting on the shelf at verizon already released!! It will be the enV touch of the age.. but what I don't know will not hurt me.
The Verizon Nexus One will outsell the Incredible. Discuss.
You are not serious right? Here is my take. IF the nexus one is only sold online I can't imagine a scenario where it would outsell the Incredible.
Too many people depend on the fact that they can walk into verizon and walk out with a new replacement phone... not to mention many people still like to look at what they buy before they buy it. It isn't like a new shirt that you can order and the just return if you don't like it. For a whole lot of people that is their home phone!! The only connection with the outside world. Who wants to go back to their old phone? I think the ONLY way this could happen is if there is a huge difference in price. For some that will be a determining factor and lets face it.. anyone going from a dumb phone or even a bb either one would be an experience but I do NOT see it happening. The Incredible has too many upgrades that are very attractive. Not to mention... looks are important... and we think the incredible is way better lookin.
this will be my first Smart/android phone! In the mean time, im stuck with a POS motorola hint that stops recieving texts after there is 30 in the inbox
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It's Verizon and they seem to be run by drunk monkeys so that might be exactly what they are thinking.
I also think that even the most uninformed consumers would pick the incredible over the nexus. If there is an opportunity to compare the two phones.. camera, processor, ram/rom etc... use them on the internet there will not be much that could keep them in the nexus camp. Money maybe.. but If verizon does not at the very least service the phones... hands down it will be the Incredible on top.
Trust me todays generation buys online and if they like the look of the nexus they will buy it. People who don't know how to buy online probably wouldn't know how to use a smart phone :P
One thing I dislike about the nexus is the trackball :/ - that design is so ancient and makes the nexus look a 100 years old.
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I also think that even the most uninformed consumers would pick the incredible over the nexus. If there is an opportunity to compare the two phones.. camera, processor, ram/rom etc... use them on the internet there will not be much that could keep them in the nexus camp. Money maybe.. but If verizon does not at the very least service the phones... hands down it will be the Incredible on top.
I'm going to print that out and walk into a Verizon store. When they tell me their usual BS that that they've never heard of the device, I'll show them the print out. The look on their faces...
That is not a page that is readily accessible through Verizon's systems, so even if someone was looking for info on the phone, they would never find that. As previously stated, the only info that appears when searching for the Incredible are the spec sheets that NKT and I have posted. Trust me when I say that anything that an employee knows about the phone, they know from the internet- Verizon has not acknowledged the existence of this phone to any extent yet- except those tweets I suppose...
You are not serious right? Here is my take. IF the nexus one is only sold online I can't imagine a scenario where it would outsell the Incredible.
Too many people depend on the fact that they can walk into verizon and walk out with a new replacement phone... not to mention many people still like to look at what they buy before they buy it. It isn't like a new shirt that you can order and the just return if you don't like it. For a whole lot of people that is their home phone!! The only connection with the outside world. Who wants to go back to their old phone? I think the ONLY way this could happen is if there is a huge difference in price. For some that will be a determining factor and lets face it.. anyone going from a dumb phone or even a bb either one would be an experience but I do NOT see it happening. The Incredible has too many upgrades that are very attractive. Not to mention... looks are important... and we think the incredible is way better lookin.
All good points, but here's the other side of the coin:
The N1 has all the "built-in" marketing and name recognition from all the other carriers.
Many people have already seen the N1 in the wild (T-Mobile, AT&T), and may have played with -- and liked -- the phone. No one has played with the Incredible in the wild.
The Incredible "upgrades" over the N1 are not the type that really wow the average consumer.
Aesthetics are in the eye of the beholder. Plenty of people have mocked the contoured back of the Incredible, and surely the red accent thing won't appeal to everyone. The N1 looks extremely professional, and definitely has appeal for the suit-and-tie crowd.
Very, very, very few people walk into a Verizon store intending or able to spend upwards of $300 on a replacement phone. The Incredible isn't going to be a spur-of-the-moment type purchase based on someone's in-store experience.
If you're too lazy/ignorant to get out in time if you don't like the service, then you deserve to be stuck. I think it's pretty cool that you get a trial month on a carrier with no financial penalties. If Verizon did the same, they might see a lot of people realizing how good their network is and switching.
Verizon has always done the same. Its called the Worry Free Guarantee- cancel within 30 days for free
I was hoping you could verify concerning the representation that the device will, in fact, come with an 8GB moviNANDe ROM. I see now that it is listed as "confirmed" in the HTC Incredible (evergreen) forum, although don't know when or how it graduated from its earlier unconfirmed status. What do you see about this, through your resources? I missed the circumstances of the earlier reclassification.
I would appreciate anyone's clarification.
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As I said, some detailed info we might not get until close to launch. And sorry, I haven't been following everything for this phone as much as you guys so what is it that you want to specifically know about the ROM? I will have to double check on the camcorder resolutions, and yeah it will but I heard that CarWash.apk was a little buggy. Look for release version 1.14b in the next few days
I also think that even the most uninformed consumers would pick the incredible over the nexus. If there is an opportunity to compare the two phones.. camera, processor, ram/rom etc... use them on the internet there will not be much that could keep them in the nexus camp. Money maybe.. but If verizon does not at the very least service the phones... hands down it will be the Incredible on top.
Processor and ram look to be equivalent. Incredible may have a better camera and more on-board storage. N1 has noise-cancellation technology. N1 has voice-input -- Incredible may or may not.
I.e., in terms of features, I think its wrong to think of the Incredible as an obvious pick. I personally think the Incredible is a better piece of hardware, but is the average consumer really going to give a darn about something called movinand? And if you have to explain it to them, you've already lost them....
Remember, the question isn't which is the better piece of tech ... its which will sell better.
All good points, but here's the other side of the coin:
The N1 has all the "built-in" marketing and name recognition from all the other carriers.
Many people have already seen the N1 in the wild (T-Mobile, AT&T), and may have played with -- and liked -- the phone. No one has played with the Incredible in the wild.
The Incredible "upgrades" over the N1 are not the type that really wow the average consumer.
Aesthetics are in the eye of the beholder. Plenty of people have mocked the contoured back of the Incredible, and surely the red accent thing won't appeal to everyone. The N1 looks extremely professional, and definitely has appeal for the suit-and-tie crowd.
Very, very, very few people walk into a Verizon store intending or able to spend upwards of $300 on a replacement phone. The Incredible isn't going to be a spur-of-the-moment type purchase based on someone's in-store experience.
even after all this time and all these carriers i have yet to see a single N1 in the wild, the reviews on the n1 so far have been so so. with the screen issues and such. Aesthetics may be a bit of a factor but remember in the latest pictures we have seen the only red on the incredible is a small sliver around the camera and the speaker grill...also remember the N1's trackball glows different colors (not exactly completely professional) and as far as price, I really doubt the incredible will be $300. i believe it might be $300 with a $100 rebate but I would be very surprised if many phones get released in this day and age above that magical $199 mark.
just my .02
sorry, after posting this and looking back, i see this is getting off topic so I will just leave it at that