Stevie Jobs already got his lunch handed to him once by Bill Gates and Co. when he sued MS over the Windows O.S. back in the early 90's and after getting his lip bloodied knows better not to **** with the 300 lb. Gorilla.
LMAO!
Exactly. Steve Jobs is a fuc stick. I love that douched-up picture of him holding an ipad (classy name btw) like a bald Charlton Heston holding the ten commandments... what a tool! lol F u Steve - Androids gonna kick your a$$! Ha! Open Development is the way!
Sorry I know this was OT but I had to get my licks in too - feels oh so good!
To try and get back on topic, does anyone imagine there will be supply issues once the Incredible is released? Anyone planning on camping out in front of their neighborhood VZW store the night before it's release to insure they get their hands on one?
that was the way he put it. I mentioned snapdragon and he said the only way verizon would have htc was with it. I didn't know they were the same, but he obviously made the same mistake.
that was the way he put it. I mentioned snapdragon and he said the only way verizon would have htc was with it. I didn't know they were the same, but he obviously made the same mistake.
Oh not going after you, one just has to question how "in the know" a source is if they don't even know that Snapdragon is Qualcomm's newest processor.
I understand. The thing I was most interested in was the speed of LTE and thaty he said there would be 3 LG android phones this year. We have heard 6 new android phones this year: 3 LG?, incredible, N1, and maybe the moto shadow.
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that was the way he put it. I mentioned snapdragon and he said the only way verizon would have htc was with it. I didn't know they were the same, but he obviously made the same mistake.
Probably not your best source for anything Incredible and/or Android related. (I hope he has his LTE info down since I read thats what you were more interested it)
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Am I missing something? This doesn't seem to say anything except speculation about the incredible.
Nope. Has almost nothing on the Incredible and puts nothing new to the table. Not sure his/her reasoning for posting that article..?
Right and is it coincidence that since Apple filed it's lawsuit against HTC a week or so ago that there's been very little news, let alone concrete news, of an official Android based HTC manufactured phone being released? Think about it, folks!
We've heard rumors of the Incredible coming to VZW and even a inventory stock no. in their system, yet no solid or public information regarding it's release let alone specs on the darn thing.
The same can be said for the N1. Is it going to be offered through Verizon and/or available on Verizon's system, but sold through Google? If so, when? Oh, but wait.......there's a screen issue with the phone, so that needs to be fixed first before it's VZW ready. Hmmmm................funny how the timing of screen issue ran concurrent with Apple's lawsuit filing against HTC.
Believe me, I'm not one to put a lot of stock in conspiracy theories, but I do find it odd how literally all rumored news of the Incredible and N1 for Verizon has all but dried up. Prior to Apple's suit you had videos of the Incredible appearing, photo images being posted on peoples Twitter and Flickr accounts, which were abruptly removed post the Apple lawsuit filing, with no real news forthcoming since - just a lot of reguritated speculation and rumors, with most of it seeming to have originated here.
Who really knows when and if HTC Android phones such as the Incredible, Desire, Supersonic and Legend will find their way to the U.S. market? Even though the N1 is already out, perhaps Verizon is getting cold feet with HTC and is afraid of being sued by Apple should they make it available directly or indirectly on their network? No one really knows for certain. It's just peculiar and strange how the news information pipeline on virtually all new U.S. bound HTC Android phones has all but dried up since the Apple lawsuit announcement - save for the Desire, which is rumored to be going to T-Mob now after it had originally been assigned to AT&T, but who really knows there as well?
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Right and is it coincidence that since Apple filed it's lawsuit against HTC a week or so ago that there's been very little news, let alone concrete news, of an official Android based HTC manufactured phone being released? Think about it, folks!
We've heard rumors of the Incredible coming to VZW and even a inventory stock no. in their system, yet no solid or public information regarding it's release let alone specs on the darn thing.
The same can be said for the N1. Is it going to be offered through Verizon and/or available on Verizon's system, but sold through Google? If so, when? Oh, but wait.......there's a screen issue with the phone, so that needs to be fixed first before it's VZW ready. Hmmmm................funny how the timing of screen issue ran concurrent with Apple's lawsuit filing against HTC.
Believe me, I'm not one to put a lot of stock in conspiracy theories, but I do find it odd how literally all rumored news of the Incredible and N1 for Verizon has all but dried up. Prior to Apple's suit you had videos of the Incredible appearing, photo images being posted on peoples Twitter and Flickr accounts, which were abruptly removed post the Apple lawsuit filing, with no real news forthcoming since - just a lot of reguritated speculation and rumors, with most of it seeming to have originated here.
Who really knows when and if HTC Android phones such as the Incredible, Desire, Supersonic and Legend will find their way to the U.S. market? Even though the N1 is already out, perhaps Verizon is getting cold feet with HTC and is afraid of being sued by Apple should they make it available directly or indirectly on their network? No one really knows for certain. It's just peculiar and strange how the news information pipeline on virtually all new U.S. bound HTC Android phones has all but dried up since the Apple lawsuit announcement - save for the Desire, which is rumored to be going to T-Mob now after it had originally been assigned to AT&T, but who really knows there as well?
Or, maybe they're just waiting till CTIA to announce the phone. I'm not buying the lawsuit affecting the Incredible release.
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Right and is it coincidence that since Apple filed it's lawsuit against HTC a week or so ago that there's been very little news, let alone concrete news, of an official Android based HTC manufactured phone being released? Think about it, folks!
We've heard rumors of the Incredible coming to VZW and even a inventory stock no. in their system, yet no solid or public information regarding it's release let alone specs on the darn thing.
The same can be said for the N1. Is it going to be offered through Verizon and/or available on Verizon's system, but sold through Google? If so, when? Oh, but wait.......there's a screen issue with the phone, so that needs to be fixed first before it's VZW ready. Hmmmm................funny how the timing of screen issue ran concurrent with Apple's lawsuit filing against HTC.
Believe me, I'm not one to put a lot of stock in conspiracy theories, but I do find it odd how literally all rumored news of the Incredible and N1 for Verizon has all but dried up. Prior to Apple's suit you had videos of the Incredible appearing, photo images being posted on peoples Twitter and Flickr accounts, which were abruptly removed post the Apple lawsuit filing, with no real news forthcoming since - just a lot of reguritated speculation and rumors, with most of it seeming to have originated here.
Who really knows when and if HTC Android phones such as the Incredible, Desire, Supersonic and Legend will find their way to the U.S. market? Even though the N1 is already out, perhaps Verizon is getting cold feet with HTC and is afraid of being sued by Apple should they make it available directly or indirectly on their network? No one really knows for certain. It's just peculiar and strange how the news information pipeline on virtually all new U.S. bound HTC Android phones has all but dried up since the Apple lawsuit announcement - save for the Desire, which is rumored to be going to T-Mob now after it had originally been assigned to AT&T, but who really knows there as well?
hmm maybe, but nahh, we haven't heard anything because it is the calm before the storm... The storm being CTIA. I think *hit is gonna blow wide open at CTIA
Or, maybe they're just waiting till CTIA to announce the phone. I'm not buying the lawsuit affecting the Incredible release.
haha damn, beat me to it!!!
2 days ago HTC replied to me and there were NO delays in any launches and they didn't really seem concerned about the lawsuit.
Now take that for what it is worth and they wouldn't tell me if they were concerned, but the e-mail was re-assuring and they said they would let their customers knows pretty much ASAP with news about the lawsuit.
As of recently (like last 2 days) I would say the opposite of above... We have received fresh news and quality rumors. If anything I would say the device is shaping up to be a big deal.
While watching american idol i seen a commercial about the iphone the man starts out to say ''It's kinda Incredible" in my mind i added.. but not really! lol i was leaning towards the N1 but after the rumors now the red is gone more ram better camera and all that good stuff im in a rock and a hard place i will just have to wait til both is out now and decide really enjoying reading all these leaks and rumors guys keep them coming!
Or, maybe they're just waiting till CTIA to announce the phone. I'm not buying the lawsuit affecting the Incredible release.
That's fine. I don't fault you or anyone for feeling that way. But what will you think or do if there's no official news of the phone coming to VZW when CTIA comes and goes?
Is it merely coincidence that T-Mobile is literally rushing the HTC HD2 to market all of a sudden with Windows Mobile 6.5 on it, when it won't even be upgradable to Win Phone 7, which is really the O.S. most users are going to want? I suspect this may be a knee-jerk reaction on their part to have something "new" to talk about in their phone line in lieu of scrapping the HTC Android phones they had hoped bring to market prior to or shortly after CTIA.
I may be wrong and hope that I am, but there's just a lot of weird unexplainable shit happening since the Apple lawsuit filing.
^^^^ If nothing is announced I will just chill and wait for more information. It's not like CTIA is GUARANTEED to be an annoucment. It is just our logical guessing
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That's fine. I don't fault you or anyone for feeling that way. But what will you think or do if there's no official news of the phone coming to VZW when CTIA comes and goes?
Is it merely coincidence that T-Mobile is literally rushing the HTC HD2 to market all of a sudden with Windows Mobile 6.5 on it, when it won't even be upgradable to Win Phone 7, which is really the O.S. most users are going to want? I suspect this may be a knee-jerk reaction on their part to have something "new" to talk about in their phone line in lieu of scrapping the HTC Android phones they had hoped bring to market prior to or shortly after CTIA.
I may be wrong and hope that I am, but there's just a lot of weird unexplainable shit happening since the Apple lawsuit filing.
They didn't have any other Android phones scheduled to come out soon....However we knew about the HD2 since MWC which of course was before the lawsuit. I really think you're seeing stuff that isn't there.
As of recently (like last 2 days) I would say the opposite of above... We have received fresh news and quality rumors. If anything I would say the device is shaping up to be a big deal.
Quality rumors from who - NKT who claims he'll be "testing" an Incredible soon? Oh, yeah, I've got one coming in the mail to me next week and will be sure to give you the specs on it when it arrives.
All kidding aside, testing is one thing and I suspect HTC will continue testing handsets while all this legal rigmarole with Apple is going on, but if they were served a "cease and desist" there's a real possibility you won't see a new HTC handset running Android released in the U.S. anytime soon.
Quality rumors from who - NKT who claims he'll be "testing" an Incredible soon? Oh, yeah, I've got one coming in the mail to me next week and will be sure to give you the specs on it when it arrives.
All kidding aside, testing is one thing and I suspect HTC will continue testing handsets while all this legal rigmarole with Apple is going on, but if they were served a "cease and desist" there's a real possibility you won't see a new HTC handset running Android released in the U.S. anytime soon.
No need to put NKT down or any other forum member for that matter. He seems credible and if not at least it is POSITIVE. Keeping people interested and on the look-out. I'm not gonna argue with you. I just like to stay positive and if things don't come out like I hope/expected I don't let it bother me... Try that sometime
BTW, let us know how that testing goes
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They didn't have any other Android phones scheduled to come out soon....However we knew about the HD2 since MWC which of course was before the lawsuit. I really think you're seeing stuff that isn't there.
I hadn't heard anything "official" regarding the HD2 coming to T-Moblie in the U.S. in March that came out of MWC. Correct me if I'm wrong. They may have announced they were getting it sometime the first half of this year, but I think they've caught a lot of people by surprise with the speed in which they intend to bring it to market, as the Net is blowing up over this right now.
I hadn't heard anything "official" regarding the HD2 coming to T-Moblie in the U.S. in March that came out of MWC. Correct me if I'm wrong. They may have announced they were getting it sometime the first half of this year, but I think they've caught a lot of people by surprise with the speed in which they intend to bring it to market, as the Net is blowing up over this right now.
So you're worried that phones that haven't been announced haven't been released yet, but raise flags when announced phones get released? How long have we known about the hd2, what since last fall, but it wasn't announced as coming to the US till MWC.
I'm a graphic designer by night and think I have knack for aesthetics. I'm a fairly anal-retentive person so I like my gadgets in perfect condition, all the time. So now that you understand a bit of where I'm coming from...here's what I think is needed for the "perfect phone."
As of right now, the closest to a "perfect" phone is the iPhone. However, it is getting dated...quickly. The chrome bezel HAS TO GO, it's a bit to thick and the screen has crap resolution. The OS is looking dated as well, it's is in dire needs of a refresh, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
Based on that... here's what the phone needs to capture the attention of the masses:
- Huge, vivid screen. Has to be at least 3.7" and at least the resolution of the N1, anything less -- crap. The seal has to be excellent, because I do not tolerate dust under the screen (IMO the Droid has the best screen on the market at this time).
- Haptic buttons, no physical buttons on the front of the device. Physical buttons break and collect dust in their seams, they're ugly.
- Same or similar button layout of the Droid (power button on top, vol up/down buttons and a camera button. Make the clicks solid and crisp, without any play in them. (the Droid suffers horribly with button play).
- Keep the device not much larger than the viewing area of the screen, I hate seeing blank space, leave enough room for the speakers, the antenna and the microphone, nothing more.
- Speaker - the Droid has an exceptional speaker...loud, clear, crisp. Anything less should not even be considered.
- No physical keyboard. While i like having one, they are never implemented properly. I hate any play in my devices, they have to feel PERECTLY well built, i hate hearing clicking when i tap on a corner of the screen, thing like that. I don't see anyway to avoid these issues, so leave the physical keyboard out all together.
- Smooth. It has to feel good in the hand, i like a glossy back, it just feels "nice." I also would like it to be as scratch resistance as possible, because I do not like cluttering up the device with a case.
- Quality camera... let's face it, the cell phone is something we have nearly everywhere we go, we need it to take pictures worth keeping or videos worth sharing. The quality and responsiveness of the camera needs to be top notch.
- Less is more. Less things to detract attention from the overall look, keep the colors basic, not too many logos or seams, etc. (N1 has the look if there was no trackball and the height of the phone was shortened a bit).
- Customizeable, why not! People like to modify things they own to make them theirs. This is why we offer our Colorlays for the Droid (GrafiXpressions - Express yourself in vinyl form!.... I think the Incredible would do great allowing the customer to choose colors for the battery cover. Personally I love the edgieness of the Red...but others may not. So sell them for $30 a pop and make some money off people who want to customize!
To me...at this point, the Incredible has everything needed to be a great phone, but until we see more and actually touch and feel it, i'm not sure if it will be that "perfect" phone.
Nice! Someone who is on the same level with me on the design and quality quality of cell phone
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I'm not putting him down per se, but how many people that have claimed to have seen the phone, touched the device or are testing the handset post photo's, videos, Tweets, heck....even become members in this forum and post comments about their experience with it, but don't offer a slew of concrete information on the darn thing!? If I had a Ben Franklin for each one I'd be rich by now. NewsRadio alone would have made me a mint!
I think that there are so many people that want this phone to be "real" so badly (including myself) that they're willing to put their faith in just about anyone that seems to have a shred of credible information on it, but at the end of the day who really knows?
Until I hear official word from Verizon or see actual photos, videos and specs of the "to be released" phone, I'm not putting my faith in anything being claimed here.
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I'm not putting him down per se, but how many people that have claimed to have seen the phone, touched the device or are testing the handset post photo's, videos, Tweets, heck....even become members in this forum and post comments about their experience with it, but don't offer a slew of concrete information on the darn thing!? If I had a Ben Franklin for each one I'd be rich by now. NewsRadio alone would have made me a mint!
I think that there are so many people that want this phone to be "real" so badly (including myself) that they're willing to put their faith in just about anyone that seems to have a shred of credible information on it, but at the end of the day who really knows?
Until I hear official word from Verizon or see actual photos, videos and specs of the "to be released" phone, I'm not putting my faith in anything being claimed here.
Thats fair enough. You are 100% entitled to your own opinion. I guess we'll just wait and see. What else can we do right?
No need to put NKT down. He seems credible and if not at least it is POSITIVE. Keeping people interested and on the look-out. I'm not gonna argue with you. I just like to stay positive and if things don't come out like I hope/expected I don't let it bother me... Try that sometime
BTW, let us know how that testing goes
Let's face it - the majority of us here are extremely impatient! We want new news on the Incredible and we want it NOW. Trouble is, we aren't getting what we want. We're getting fragments of things which may or may not be accurate. So we have no choice but to digest them and hope that they stay down. Our patience is tested almost daily now as one Messiah after another gallops in here - tossing scraps to the information-starved masses with the promise of returning tomorrow with more. Just in the past couple of weeks there was Sarab Singh, DevDroidian (who, thanks to his pics, has the best credibility), and now NKT. They vanish into the nether regions of cyberspace as our patience is tested once again. While we hope they resurface soon with more information for us, it's all we can do to gaze forlornly at our existing phones while hoping for an Incredible sunrise in the not-too-distant future. In a very unique way - we're the ones keeping eachother from going off the deep end!
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I'm not putting him down per se, but how many people that have claimed to have seen the phone, touched the device or are testing the handset post photo's, videos, Tweets, heck....even become members in this forum and post comments about their experience with it, but don't offer a slew of concrete information on the darn thing!? If I had a Ben Franklin for each one I'd be rich by now. NewsRadio alone would have made me a mint!
I think that there are so many people that want this phone to be "real" so badly (including myself) that they're willing to put their faith in just about anyone that seems to have a shred of credible information on it, but at the end of the day who really knows?
Until I hear official word from Verizon or see actual photos, videos and specs of the "to be released" phone, I'm not putting my faith in anything being claimed here.
Your first claim is somewhat invalid. You're asking people who have signed confidentiality contracts to reveal everything about a product that is supposed to be hidden from the public. Are you saying that you'd risk your career by completely putting yourself out there to people you don't know? If youre answer is what I hope it is, which is no, then that is the reason why these people can't give you concrete info. Not only that, but at this phase, the phone is not in a finalized stage, so how can they give you more than what they know themselves.
No one is forcing you to believe anything claimed within this thread. Thats why its a rumor right? If you don't want to believe any of it, then that is your choice. Just as, us putting faith in what we believe is real.. that is my choice. I think thats what you're missing here. A disclaimer for this thread and any speculations should be: TAKE IT FOR WHAT ITS WORTH. If you don't believe it, fine. Move on. And if you want to wait until you hear official word, then there really isn't any point in reading this thread right? I mean, from what I can tell, none of us here are capable of making official announcements for Verizon. I know I explained this situation VERY clearly to, I think Montana?, about rumors and posts in this thread. Having this thread and the people that are willing to share is a privledge. The amount of trust you entitle each of these speculations is entirely up to you.
Not attacking you, so don't take it personal.
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Let's face it - the majority of us here are extremely impatient! We want new news on the Incredible and we want it NOW. Trouble is, we aren't getting what we want. We're getting fragments of things which may or may not be accurate. So we have no choice but to digest them and hope that they stay down. Our patience is tested almost daily now as one Messiah after another gallops in here - tossing scraps to the information-starved masses with the promise of returning tomorrow with more. Just in the past couple of weeks there was Sarab Singh, DevDroidian (who, thanks to his pics, has the best credibility), and now NKT. They vanish into the nether regions of cyberspace as our patience is tested once again. While we hope they resurface again with more information for us, it's all we can do to gaze forlornly at our existing phones while hoping for an Incredible sunrise in the not-too-distant future. In a very unique way - we're the ones keeping eachother from going off the deep end!
Let's face it - the majority of us here are extremely impatient! We want new news on the Incredible and we want it NOW. Trouble is, we aren't getting what we want. We're getting fragments of things which may or may not be accurate. So we have no choice but to digest them and hope that they stay down. Our patience is tested almost daily now as one Messiah after another gallops in here - tossing scraps to the information-starved masses with the promise of returning tomorrow with more. Just in the past couple of weeks there was Sarab Singh, DevDroidian (who, thanks to his pics, has the best credibility), and now NKT. They vanish into the nether regions of cyberspace as our patience is tested once again. While we hope they resurface again with more information for us, it's all we can do to gaze forlornly at our existing phones while hoping for an Incredible sunrise in the not-too-distant future. In a very unique way - we're the ones keeping eachother from going off the deep end!
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Your first claim is somewhat invalid. You're asking .
Not attacking you, so don't take it personal.
No offense taken whatsoever, yet I find it ironic when someone claims to have seen or come in contact with the Incredible folks here either A. doubt the validity of their claims initially and query the crap out of them and/or B. immediately want to know specs and when that information isn't forthcoming for the reasons you expressed, then point A. is reverted back to quite often and that person gets attacked.
Bottom line. We all agree that the phone exits. In what form it will be released and when and perhaps even if it will be released is a guessing game right now.
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Bottom line. We all agree that the phone exits. In what form it will be released and when and perhaps even if it will be released is a guessing game right now.
Yup. Which is why I'm going to blow a fuse if nothing is announced at CTIA (at the latest)
I hope that they shape this phone up to look like the sexy Desire. Man, what a good looking phone. Verizon, although it may seem the other way, aren't as dumb as we think. I would assume that they would make a phone according to whom they are marketing it. So, if they are marketing it towards us (power, business users), then I think we should be fine.
Yup. Which is why I'm going to blow a fuse if nothing is announced at CTIA (at the latest)
Woop, if CTIA comes and goes without a shred of "real" news regarding some kind of Ferrari of an HTC Android phone coming to VZW you and I will both show up with torches and pitchforks outside their corporate office, as there will be hell to pay!
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Is it me or has this thread turned all softy/kumbaya on me over the last few pages?
As much as it has been a pleasure talking to you fellas and ladies.. I, for one, will be HAPPY once this thread is gone, and when all of us stop posting, because that can only mean that the phone has been released and that I won't have time to check the forums due to me being occupied by my Incredible
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Is it me or has this thread turned all softy/kumbaya on me over the last few pages?
As much as it has been a pleasure talking to you fellas and ladies.. I, for one, will be HAPPY once this thread is gone, and when all of us stop posting, because that can only mean that the phone has been released and that I won't have time to check the forums due to me being occupied by my Incredible
Or better yet, you could check the forums *from* your Incredible
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I'm not putting him down per se, but how many people that have claimed to have seen the phone, touched the device or are testing the handset post photo's, videos, Tweets, heck....even become members in this forum and post comments about their experience with it, but don't offer a slew of concrete information on the darn thing!? If I had a Ben Franklin for each one I'd be rich by now. NewsRadio alone would have made me a mint!
I think that there are so many people that want this phone to be "real" so badly (including myself) that they're willing to put their faith in just about anyone that seems to have a shred of credible information on it, but at the end of the day who really knows?
Until I hear official word from Verizon or see actual photos, videos and specs of the "to be released" phone, I'm not putting my faith in anything being claimed here.
He never said he was going to be testing it. You did.
He said he may be getting some hands on time in the next week. Also, it's pretty unfair to compare NKT to Knewsnothing-io. Take some time to review his posting history before you belittle him. You should be thanking him and hoping he comes back after/if he does get to fondle the damn thing to share what he finds out.
He never said he was going to be testing it. You did.
He said he may be getting some hands on time in the next week. Also, it's pretty unfair to compare NKT to Knewsnothing-io. Take some time to review his posting history before you belittle him. You should be thanking him and hoping he comes back after/if he does get to fondle the damn thing to share what he finds out.
... I think the thread came to a screeching halt once the word "fondle" emerged...
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If the Incredible is announced at the CTIA, how long do you think before it hits the stores? My contract is up 4/3. Plus, I wanted to know if I uploaded the avatar thing correct.
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If the Incredible is announced at the CTIA, how long would do you think before it hits the stores? My contract is up 4/3. Plus, I wanted to know if I uploaded the avatar thing correct.
If they are going to announce it at CTIA I think they would release the phone sometime in early to mid April but I guess we can't be sure exactly when.
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If the Incredible is announced at the CTIA, how long do you think before it hits the stores? My contract is up 4/3. Plus, I wanted to know if I uploaded the avatar thing correct.
I'd give it a 2-3 week window before it drops. Let the hype build up amongst the tech bloggers and their readers.
F u Steve - Androids gonna kick your a$$! Ha! Open Development is the way! 
Keeping people interested and on the look-out. I'm not gonna argue with you. I just like to stay positive and if things don't come out like I hope/expected I don't let it bother me... Try that sometime 
