Ok everyone, here is the deal. I don't even know where to start or how much I'll have left out by the time I end this post so.. Rather than spend forever trying to do some formal thing and make this perfect I'm going to just type, and when done, post.
READ THIS POST. It is long, yes. Read it.
First thought I have on this: users were asked over and over again to keep the thread on topic. This did not happen so the thread was eventually closed. This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone, nor should they be angry with the mods for doing it. What was their other option? Stand by and let members walk all over them and the requests/statements they've made? No. Their job isn't to make suggestions and hope people follow. It is to MODERATE. The moderator was doing his job and moderating. Seeings how so many people were choosing to ignore him, all I can think to say is "Uhh, ba-duh people."
Second thought - I see the pride thing, etc, but seriously guys. You have a whole forum here. I do see the value of the thread. I'm sayin'... you'd be fine without it.
Now with that said..
I've thought about this all night and morning. I was going to come in this morning, reopen and merge threads and make a post, and instead have been sidetracked with a buncha complaints splattered around badmouthing staff and the "official we're mad" thread, etc. These had effectively changed my mind. But, I'm trying to look at the big picture and sometimes special circumstances can allow for things to be done outside the norm. So that is what I'm going to do.
But not without making a best effort to get people to read this post first.
I'm going to merge the two threads, and reopen. The original post needs to be continually updated by Anonimac with news that the group as a whole considers important enough - like he's been doing. Should it get to where he cannot, come up with who can - and we'll remake the thread under their name and merge it over. I am going to make an edit on the OP myself, and it is to stay intact. It will say something to the effect of: he his making a best effort to keep the OP up to date, not all posts are on topic seeing how it is sorta your hang out, but that this doesn't excuse members from listening to the mods. You are still to follow rules. Be polite, don't flame people, this sort of thing.
If people want to make new threads about something they can (and should!), and THOSE THREADS are to remain on topic as per usual. Those threads will not be merged onto the big thread. The information in those threads can be re-posted in the big one, that's fine.
I'm going to close all threads about this. The I'm mad thread, whatever else pops up in the time of my typing this. (I see a poll now). This everyone will live with. If you have feedback or want to voice your opinions on the matter do it on THIS THREAD.
All mod-hate, ignoring, etc up till now - amnesty. This is everyone's one warning. Infractions will follow. When a mod asks you to do or to stop doing something, oblige. If you're not okay with a moderator action/decision, PM an admin.
Let me stress this is happening because it is a special circumstance in which this seems an okay solution for reasons that are inside my head. I'm not obligated to explain any further than what gets put in this post.. It is not because we're being overwhelmed with upset users. We're not overwhelmed. This really isn't that big a deal for us to handle, either way we choose to do it. It also, and I'm only saying this because of some reply I saw somewhere, is not at all because we're afraid we're going to lose traffic to boycotting. Let whoever said that understand: AF has been doing just fine a long time. We do appreciate you all being here, it's great, we love our community, and I hope you all choose to remain here but, seriously - you're not making AF. If everyone angry with this situation boycotted and left to some other site.. we would see minimal change in traffic. Trust me on that.
So to sum up. Merging and opening. Anonimac it's on you at this point to keep the OP updated. Should you move on and the thread is still kickin', we'll assign it to someone else. Users are encouraged to create new threads for things, and those will be kept on topic. Info into those can be cross-posted to the big thread. Everyone needs to understand, mad or not, that the moderator was doing his job, and it was THE GROUPS fault for choosing to ignore his repeated requests, that it got closed. As mods pop onto the thread in the future, as they inevitably will, I highly suggest you listen to what they have to say and if you have a problem with it let me know. Don't go ignoring the mods. They're doing what they are supposed to do.
All of this may change in the future, when the phone is announced or something, but for now we'll continue like this and see how it goes.
I assure you the mods will go along with this decision fine. They may offer an opinion that supports or goes against this decision to me, and that's fine. They're encouraged to do that. But they will be mature about it. I hope that all of you will too. Please do not continue to bash the staff for doing their jobs. The whole "power happy" or whatever stuff - I'm tired of seeing it, to be honest. I wouldn't call waiting until you've been ignored 5 times to close a thread, power happy.
Happy posting, do hope everyone can keep it cool like this. Let's see some of that policing-yourselves thing I keep reading.
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Can I make a suggestion that the thread title be changed to probably not be the "Official" thread until it's released and then we could have an Offical thread when it's released for those that get the phone to talk about it.
I've thought about this all night and morning. I was going to come in this morning, reopen and merge threads and make a post, and instead have been sidetracked with a buncha complaints splattered around badmouthing staff and the "official we're mad" thread, etc. These had effectively changed my mind. But, I'm trying to look at the big picture and sometimes special circumstances can allow for things to be done outside the norm. So that is what I'm going to do.
I apologize if I offended anyone. The Official: "I'm Mad They Closed the ***Official HTC Incredible Thread*** Thread" was meant tongue-in-cheek. More importantly, I intended it to be a place where people could vent and keep the other threads on topic.
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Can I make a suggestion that the thread title be changed to probably not be the "Official" thread until it's released and then we could have an Offical thread when it's released for those that get the phone to talk about it.
I think it's okay. Seeings how it's not released nothing is really official anyway. But it IS officially 'incredible'.
I'm hoping (and almost expecting, but I know better) when the phone actually is released the thread will die away and new threads will be created for issues anyway. But we'll see.
If many more feel this way though.. Speak up, or give a thanks to MrSmoofy's post.
I think it's okay. Seeings how it's not released nothing is really official anyway. But it IS officially 'incredible'.
I'm hoping (and almost expecting, but I know better) when the phone actually is released the thread will die away and new threads will be created for issues anyway. But we'll see.
If many more feel this way though.. Speak up, or give a thanks to MrSmoofy's post.
That's fine by me you are the bestest forum admin ever, and I mean it I've been on some forums that are just train wrecks, it's very nice to see both the mod's and admins care about everyone.
I'm good either way. I just like having everything in 1 post, all the previous news/speculation, etc. Its easier to find everything we have been talking about and keeps us all together. It's kind of turned into it own little community and I'd help any of those guys/gals out with info. or whatever they needed
I think it's okay. Seeings how it's not released nothing is really official anyway. But it IS officially 'incredible'.
I'm hoping (and almost expecting, but I know better) when the phone actually is released the thread will die away and new threads will be created for issues anyway. But we'll see.
If many more feel this way though.. Speak up, or give a thanks to MrSmoofy's post.
I agree. Nothing is really official until it is released, or at least announced by a manufacturer or carrier. Lot's of people title threads like this though and I am fine with it either way.
The big thing is that I'm not really sure what the title would be?
Thanks Phases.. You did the right thing. This monster is waaayy.. too large to mess with. IT'S THE BEST THREAD ON THE NET FOR THE INCREDIBLE! I was afraid the response would get outa hand.
I think this thread needs to be handled like the Atlanta police deals with the rush hour traffic.. They just stay the hell out of the way till theres a train wreck, then come clean up the mess.
so, am I to understand that when the phone comes out we have to start a new thread discussing the phone and its features?
When the phone comes out you are to use the entire forum as intended. Have an issue? Start a thread so someone can answer it and it can be found/referenced by others. Found a great tip? Start a thread.. etc.
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Regarding ***Official HTC Incredible Thread*** - EVERYONE READ ME
