brichi

Hi guys, I have an iPhone now and have some quick questions before I pre order the Incredible

I know you cannot do voice and data at the same time on verizon which I think is really a joke with technology now a days but:

with WiFi OFF

1. what happens if I am browsing the net and someone tries to call? will the call come through or go right to VM

2. What if I am using the gps to travel somewhere, does this mean I will never receive phone calls the whole trip? I know some of it gets cached but I am sure it accesses the network a lot throughout a trip.

3. If I am on a phone call, does this mean I cannot receive or send texts?

4. and vice versa to 3, If i am texting back and forth between a couple of people does this stop phone calls from coming in?

thank you for any info you guys can give, i appreciate it

jwm2

LOL, i'm not even going to bother with this thread. Why don't you stay with at&t and leave the inferior phones & services to the rest of us

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techguy

I am a current Verizon customer and I think these are some valid questions I would like to know also.

If you don't have anything good to say about someone's posting, there is no need to bash them.

amarryat

1). Your web surfing will be interrupted and the phone will ring.
2). Phone call will come in. Not sure how the gps software will handle the inability to get data during the call.
3). You can send and receive texts while on a phone call
4). Calls come in when you are texting.

Last edited by amarryat; April 25th, 2010 at 08:02 PM.

benson304

Stay with your iPhone.

brichi

why do you have to be such an ass, I asked honest questions from what I have read on different forums and wanted to get answers from actual Droid users. And don't talk about inferior phones when obviously the iPhone has been inferior for a couple of years and everyone tries to be just like it... Thanks for nothing


amarryat and Benson,, Thank you very much for the answers, I appreciate it

amarryat

You're welcome. Keep in mind I am a current Blackberry Storm user, and that is how it works. Data/voice should not be any different on another phone though.

brichi

awesome, do you notice it ever really becoming an issue in everyday use?

heyeaglefn

Never been a problem for me.

amarryat

Nope, and that's why I always thought the ATT TV ad highlighting that deficiency was a joke.

Voice always takes priority, so you won't ever miss a call.

jlb0305

1) Data is paused while on call and can resume after. (BB Storm & moto Droid tested)
2)GPS as far as I know still works but any map updates from net are paused until end of call. Atleast this is what happened on moto droid. It picked back up fine after call.
3)Text can occur while on call because text is sent on voice lines.
4)Voice can occur while texting.



EDIT: Sorry had this page up and forgot to refresh b4 posting.

Last edited by jlb0305; April 25th, 2010 at 08:09 PM. Reason: woops

benson304

The only difference, which is what they are mainly referring to in these commercials, is that you can't be on the phone and then log into the browser and load websites.

brichi

ok, this is all great so far, my main concern is that I would not miss a call because a web page was loading or an email happen to be coming in the same time someone was dialing my number (I get a lot of email constantly coming through for work)

FrozenIpaq

I just had my roommate test this with his Motorola Droid.

Here's what we did:

1) Droid loading a webpage
2) While loading, I called him
3) While loading he got the notification that I was calling, after 1-2 rings on my end (I called him and noticed that it was 1-2 rings before his phone registered me as calling him).

So: Yes, you will receive calls when you are loading a webpage

wangznthangz

You wont miss a call no matter what is going on. I even get my calls when I'm tethered to my laptop.

jpallen77

Calls take priority qver everything else. Gps will work while on a call if you have gps on and not just using network location. I still get turn-by-turn directions while on a call, the maps will refresh when call is over. Text and e-mail notifications will come in within seconds after calls are over. As far as web pages loading, they will pause for a call and resume automaticly as soon as call is over. This all works on my Eris running 2.1(rooted) which is the same as incredible just less memory and a slower processor. You wont miss being able to surf web while on calls wich you can still do on VZW if you are connected on Wifi, which overrides data connection. Lose the I-JUNK and come to a real network, we welcome you with open arms.

brichi

jpallen77 and wangznthangz - hahaha on the I-JUNK, thx for the info

frozenipaq - thank you for testing!!

amarryat

Texts come in during the call and don't wait until after.

ChiTownJim

If you are connected to WiFi you can talk, surf the web , send a text and recieve a text all the sametime.

if you are on the phone on 3g or 1x you will still be able to send and recieve texts while on a phone call.

jwm2

Do you know what inferior means? Might want to look it up. Your tone in the original post was condesending, you were acting like you come from a much better phone and network and don't fathom how we'd live with the technology we are given. The fact of the matter is the android platform has alot to offer. Dont you think maybe the engineers making these phones would have put some thought into the situation before proceeding with designing the unit? Do you honestly think that while the gps is on everything else ceases to work? That while you are surfing the web the telephone function is turned off? I don't think its asking too much for some of the people that are new here to do some research before posting such questions. If you do the required research and still have questions then by all means feel free to ask them. But its pretty obvious the first thing you did was sign up with an account so you could get others to spoon feed you the information. I've given out lots of information on various threads here and in the droid eris section. I guess its too much for me to expect the same maturity from incredible users, but hey thats my fault.

brichi

first off, I have been on this thread all week and weekend following the phone debating to switch, I did research the hell out of the data portions but like i said I WANTED TO HEAR IT FROM ACTUAL INCREDIBLE OWNERS thinking maybe they were able to do something different so you can go on the web while talking without having to use WiFi. I have been on the iPhone for years and am looking for a change because I hate ATT and am sick of the iPhone and believe the INC has more to offer. By no means at all was my starting post condescending, I was just asking a god damn question. I go on a lot of forums DJ related and not once have I responded to someone asking a question like you did, if you come on here just to insult then dont respond at all, A simple "this has been discussed before on the forum" would have done, Any thing I found was a general answer on Verizons network, Again, I wanted to know if Droid 2.1 did something different to allow it. I mainly sign up on forums to observe, research and help people, very rarely do I ask questions mainly to avoid miserable, arrogant dickheads like yourself,

So once again, thx for nothing

p.s., yes I was wrong on the inferior sentence, I know what it means and read what you wrote wrong because i was so thrown back by your asshole reply

p.s.s - Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still ******ed

Last edited by brichi; April 25th, 2010 at 09:46 PM.

elrabin

1: Data ceases and the call comes in and rings

2: Data ceases and the call comes in and rings. Your route is saved and the GPS will continue to direct you UNLESS you get off route and it would need data to recalculate.

3: Texts are carried within the phones "check in" signal to the tower, being on a call SHOULDN'T interupt, but i'm not 100% sure.

4: Call will come in.

brichi

thanks again for everyone that answered, You really helped me on my decision to pre-order the Inc. tomorrow. I guess if the mods can and want they can lock this thread being that I am sure JWM2 will respond again with a ridiculous post and it will go on and on with stuff not even related to the post anymore.

Thanky you,
Brian

eleazar

I'm also coming from an iPhone and I had these EXACT same questions. Thank you for asking them Brichi. I don't know why jwm got so defensive when it's obvious you weren't just trolling the forum.

Thanks for the answers guys. I'm very relieved to hear that I'll be able to receive/send txt's while on the Incredible. I rarely send txt's while on the phone, but I frequently receive them. I just wish my work had wifi so I wouldn't even have to worry about it.

brichi

No problem eleazar, thanks for jumping in and responding

g'night all, Looking forward to this release and ill be back looking at more info tomorrow!

Last edited by brichi; April 25th, 2010 at 10:04 PM.

dm33

Sounds like jwm2 has some issues.

Meanwhile I thought its a perfectly reasonable question.
Generally the limitation has to do with the communications technology, CDMA/EVDO vs. GSM/UMTS not with the platform, iPhone vs. Android.

With GSM, voice and data are essentially on separate channels and can run simultaneously. That's also why you can get different coverage and why GSM and UMTS (data) usually are running on different frequencies.
CDMA/EVDO are sharing the channel.

Thanks for the useful responses, thats reassuring. I used to have a good LG phone on Sprint. I'd tether through the phone often. There was a setting on that phone that determined if voice or data had priority. The default was voice, not data. To change the setting, I had to break into some debug mode and flip the flag. Every time I'd power off the phone, the setting would flip back. It was a royal pain.

Glad to hear that it sounds like the common convention has changed so that voice has priority.

Mr. Spontaneous

Another thing you might want to note - if you're in a call and on 3G you won't receive email (since email is data). This isn't a dealbreaker for me as all the mail starts to get delivered as soon as you hang up, but, if you're an email junkie, don't be surprised :-)

XxICEMAN720xX

I don't know what planet you are from but I suggest you immerse yourself in as much television and youtube to rot your brain asap.

A cell phones number one priority is to make calls. I have an iPhone. I have T-Mobile network. I have never not received a phone call because I was surfing the web or playing a game on an app. GPS and texting will not keep you from receiving calls. Tell us exactly Who convinced you otherwise so we can break his legs for you?

USofPlutarchy

LOL! Yeah, everyone has been excluding multitasking, folders, a decent camera w/flash, removable batteries, widgets, etc, etc. But then when Apple announced they were including the first two in 4.0, everyone else copied them right? lol I swear to god Apple people are the most delusional individuals I've ever seen...

wase4711

wanted to just jump in here for a sec

been an iphone owner for several years, and, also getting ready to dump mine for a Android/incredible..
I was wondering the same things as Brichi, basically, because ATT has been very vocal in saying through their ads and marketing that Verizon people cant get data and be on a phone call at the same time. It was absolutely a fair and valid question that he posted here, and I am glad that there are so many helpful and friendly members here to answer these types of questions.
I am a technology guru, and have had dozens of different phones/smart phones since 1986 when cell phones first came around, and I had the same questions as Brichi, not because I am some moronic douche bag who's brain is rotted by TV/You tube, as someone earlier suggested...
These types of forums thrive because of the spirit of help and co operation, NOT insults and put downs.

thanks again to those that helped with these questions!

brichi

hahahaha, yes many iPhone users (not I) are delusional and think nothing else compares BUT you, I and everyone else knows that the iPhone changed the way smartphone touchscreens are made and what they have to live up to, It's not an opinion it's a fact. Once the iPhone came out every touch screen phone that followed was compared to it for a reason, Even the incredible right away was compared, the firs thing many people question is, Will it work as good, smooth as the iPhone. I am not talking about the multitasking and stuff yo mentioned, it is more the fact of a GOOD smooth touch screen that actually works well and is intuitive for the average user to use

Hahaha, just from people I know that use it, I will send them a pic via emailand they cannot open it till we get off the phone which is not a big deal to me, I just wanted to doublecheck that the role wasn't also reversed where if an email was coming in the phone call would be blocked which has been answered thx to all the usefull info you guys have given. again, this wouldn't be a deal breaker for me but I was just checking into it so I had no surprises next week


Again, guys I didn't come on hear for a pissing match between the iPhone and Verizon phones, I really wanna switch (and am preordering the htc today) and just wanted to confirm what Verizon can and cannot do based on the ATT commercials we see everyday....

thank you wase4711, well put......

Last edited by brichi; April 26th, 2010 at 07:31 AM.

felkdogg

Brichi, another thing you may have not realized is that your Verizon phone will work the same way your Iphone works if you spend a lot of time on the EDGE network. Only the ATT 3G network has the ability to surf and use data at the same time. However on EDGE, the data connection cannot occur at the same time as a voice call is in progress and in some cases (on older EDGE towers)when you are accessing data when a call comes in, the call would actually be sent straight to voicemail.

So if you haven't noticed this fallback anytime you have been on EDGE with your Iphone then you surely won't have a problem now.

rushmore

No offense to the OP, but this looked like a bait thread, hence the replies

Luke Wilson aleady answered these questions on TV a bunch of times. Of course, you need to find decent At&t coverage to get the performance he talks about Also use the device just for that function and be a 24/7 multi-tasker.

GPS still works when you lose phone signal, but any map areas not updated yet would be a problem. Since the newer map app loads the whole route, it should not be an issue.

Last edited by rushmore; April 26th, 2010 at 08:10 AM.

rmjdees

it you are not in a 3G area on ATT, there are a lot of times that I miss calls because I am on the web.

Only 3G on ATT allows voice and data at the same time. I'm using a G1 on ATT so I don't get any 3G data currently, but am looking at Verizon, since ATT keeps crippling their phones.

dm33

Funny. Actually you're wrong. Even the iPhone cannot do simultaneous voice and data when over EDGE.
If you have an iPhone on T-Mobile, you can only use EDGE. Remember we're not talking about WiFi.

You just haven't noticed missing a call. When you're using data, it connects, downloads the data, disconnects. If a call comes in while you're disconnected, thats fine. But if you're actively downloading something it won't work. Phone will never ring. Call goes to voicemail. Try downloading a big file, or streaming a big video through YouTube and call your phone as its downloading.

hexto

This thread is proof that advertisement works. I don't know of anyone who's ever NEEDED to use data while talking. brichi asked legitimate questions and I'm glad they were answered but I hope that no one actually makes a decision as to who to go with based on ad wars. The truth of the matter is that if the iPhone was on a different network it'd be even greater and great Android phones like the Incredible on a great network will definitely lead to very satisfied users.

Hell I've been using an HTC VX6900 (Touch/Vogue) for 26 months and running Android on it for the last year exclusively cause no VZW phone impressed me until the Droid but I don't like physical keyboards and I wasn't about to go back to AT&T and miss calls.

jfunk

Just wanted to chime in because I wasn't sure if it was clearly stated earlier, but TEXTS will always come through. They use the voice signal, not the data signal, so there is no conflict there.

jfunk

lol..advertisement has nothing to do with wanting data and voice at the same time. I'm sticking with Verizon for the foreseeable future because they simply have the best coverage in my area, but that doesn't mean I don't wish I could do voice & data simultaneously.

You seriously can't think of any times you'd use that? You've never talked to a friend on the phone while looking up something on the web? Never emailed them something and wanted to talk to them while they looked it over?

It's not a deal breaker by any means, but it's certainly not pure marketing fluff either. The biggest problem with those ads is they fail to mention that it only works in their tiny 3G coverage areas and it works just like Verizon in the other 90% of their coverage areas.

amarryat

From what I just read above your post, it sounds like ATT has an even worse characteristic in the EDGE areas. With Verizon, if you are surfing and a call comes in, it will interrupt your surfing and ring the phone. But according to a poster above, if you are on EDGE and surfing, if a call comes in you won't know and the call will go right to VM.

jfunk

Ouch. If that's the case that's terrible. I actually just assumed that it would work the same way and you'd always have voice prioritized over data.

htcghost

I think a lot of people found the OP to be helpful considering many are converting from dumbphones to smartphones with the incredible. Don't have to be an asshole about it. Who cares if you've given a lot of information in the droid eris section. Many people in the the incredible section will have no reason to go to that section in the first place.

Thanks to the OP for asking. Coming from a dumbphone I didn't know how the calls and web browsing would work; thanks to all the replies.

hexto

Yes. Texts will always come in and you can send them while on the phone

hexto

I work in sales and I'm on the road quite a bit. I use data while out on the road as well as at home and I still don't see a need for it. At least not personally. If I'm on the phone I am paying attention to that conversation not browsing and since I set my data to sync automatically if someone sends me something then calls to see if I've received it I can do so without using data cause its already been downloaded.

I switched to VZW in 2003 and haven't looked back. Many of my friends switched to AT&T for the iphone but none are as happy with their coverage or 3g as they were with VZW or Sprint.

brichi

No problem

jfunk

lol, just busting chops but that sounds like a "back in my day" statement. :-P

Seriously though, just because you personally don't have any frequent need for it doesn't make it non-issue for everybody else. I look up stuff on the web all the time when I'm talking to friends for things like "when is the game on?", "which restaurants have good specials tonight?", etc.

Of course you don't NEED it, but that doesn't mean it's not useful, especially when out and about. Having to look up something like what movies are playing or what the specials are at restaurants while not on the phone is annoying, because you can't just read it to them live (or continue your conversation on other topics while you look it up).

Mischka7

Do you folks with AT&T even have reception? I have AT&T and I'm leaving it on Friday. Having poor reception and poor phone quality in the San Francisco financial district is just unacceptable. The two straws that broke the camels back form me were: 1) I received a warning to stop roaming (going off network)...in San Francisco, and 2) After complaining about the lack of reception and quality voice/data, I got a nice email telling me how much AT&T is doing in Berkeley. That's great, but Berkeley does not occupy the same space as San Francisco...political/social leanings aside.

I used to be concerned about the inability for CDMA to do voice and data concurrently, but honestly, I'd rather do one or the other instead of none at all.

Mischka

hexto

lol. I'm actually just enjoying having an intelligent conversation someone who knows what they are talking about.

I'm sure if I had the ability to use voice/data at the same time I'd find a need for it but I'm so used to not having the option that I just automatically work around it.

hexto

That bad really? Wow. I've never used my VZW phone in San Francisco so I can't comment specifically but I can say that whenever I travel for work (all over the country) the guys who use VZW can always call and use data when AT&T or Sprint guys can't.

You'll never know until you try. Good luck

8.5x11

Ive had Verizon for almost 10 years and to be completely honest I didnt know my phone couldnt surf and talk at the same time until I saw those stupid ATT ads. I remember seeing it the first time and going.... "Really? Lemme try that." Sure enough no browse while on a call. Ive never missed a call, txt, email, tweet, status update, or anything because of this technology "fail". Right now im a power BB user and rely heavily on my phone for work but somehow I never tried to browse and talk at the same time until that Wilson brother said I couldn't... Dump ATT you wont regret it!

confluence

On my Eris, one of the first things I did while on hold with customer service was jump on the internet via Wifi.

Calls come thru fine while surfing on 3g. Internet becomes disconnected.

Text works fine no matter what.

As far as gps, it works perfectly with phone calls. In fact, I was just in Hawaii a month ago and using GPS navigation. I was able to receive and make calls with navigation on. It was just as smooth as with the Navigation off. The navigator's voice was speaking directions even while I was on a call. Again, I was on a slow Droid Eris.