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Old May 4th, 2010, 11:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Why are all my apps running all the time?

For some reason if I open Advanced Task Killer I have like 8-12 apps running all the time. They're random too, many that aren't attached to widgets. An example is gesture search. I feel like this is eating up my battery. Any thoughts?

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For some reason if I open Advanced Task Killer I have like 8-12 apps running all the time. They're random too, many that aren't attached to widgets. An example is gesture search. I feel like this is eating up my battery. Any thoughts?
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I too would like input....
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have you guys had android devices before?
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have you guys had android devices before?

I converted from a BlackBerry 8330 Curve. I am still contributing it to using more of the battery than I would like.
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There really are about 100 threads about this there is a great feature called search! Read around some all the info is right in front of you

If you don't want stuff running and you feel comfortable killing tasks etc then there are a few TK's in the market. Be sure you research here though as imo TK's are not needed unless your having trouble with a rogue app.
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Android is all about multitasking. Don't worry about it. They may show up in a task killer or whatever, but they are not all actually up and running and using resources. They are sitting there idle waiting to be used.

Android will kill off tasks or idle applications when needed.
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alot of things actually do have to run for full support of Sense UI, widgets, email and such. Also just because you see them doesnt mean they are 'running'

List some of the items you see running that you think shouldnt be?
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I converted from a BlackBerry 8330 Curve. I am still contributing it to using more of the battery than I would like.
Ok, I'm going to give you the short-version. If I do misinform, someone who does know better than I please correct me because I'm not an expert by any means.

It's all about the way Android works. Apps run in cycles, essentially. Android will automatically kill apps that have been idle for awhile, and the apps that are "running in the background" aren't really running or doing anything, they're just either waiting to be killed by Android, or they're waiting to make their next data collection (like GMail will check for new e-mails every _xxx_ minutes--however you have the setting).

That being said...task killers are rather deceiving, and in all reality, they're not really necessary. They can actually make your phone run slower and drain your battery faster than if you didn't use a task killer, unless you use the task killer properly and know what you're doing. Because apps run in cycles on Android, killing them before they're done actually drains battery and bogs down the phone. On top of that, if you kill an app that checks for data/updates regularly (like GMail), not only will you make your phone do the extra work killing it, but it will have to work more to re-open the app when it's time to collect data again, rather than just leaving it sit idle in the background as a running process that isn't using your battery or bogging down your phone.

I hope that made sense, and seriously if any of that information is incorrect please correct me.
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Ok, I'm going to give you the short-version. If I do misinform, someone who does know better than I please correct me because I'm not an expert by any means.

It's all about the way Android works. Apps run in cycles, essentially. Android will automatically kill apps that have been idle for awhile, and the apps that are "running in the background" aren't really running or doing anything, they're just either waiting to be killed by Android, or they're waiting to make their next data collection (like GMail will check for new e-mails every _xxx_ minutes--however you have the setting).

That being said...task killers are rather deceiving, and in all reality, they're not really necessary. They can actually make your phone run slower and drain your battery faster than if you didn't use a task killer, unless you use the task killer properly and know what you're doing. Because apps run in cycles on Android, killing them before they're done actually drains battery and bogs down the phone. On top of that, if you kill an app that checks for data/updates regularly (like GMail), not only will you make your phone do the extra work killing it, but it will have to work more to re-open the app when it's time to collect data again, rather than just leaving it sit idle in the background as a running process that isn't using your battery or bogging down your phone.

I hope that made sense, and seriously if any of that information is incorrect please correct me.
Nah, your right. Task killing is a waste of time.
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The thing that gets me is that some things will autostart while in sleep mode. For instance, I checked task killer, no apps running, turn off screen and go to sleep. Wake up 8 hours later, turn on screen, check task killer, 20+ apps running.

Some I understand why they are running, and I have them on the ignore list. But why are there 2 instances of photoshop mobile, voice dialer (which I will NEVER use), 2 instances of MortPlayer, Camera, Photos, and many other random apps that don't even use network resources.

Is there some kind of Super-fetch thing running that predicts which programs I will use and so it loads them in standby mode?

I've read a lot of the posts here about task killers, and it seems the more experienced smart-phone users agree that they aren't needed except for the occasional rogue app. It's just hard for me to swallow that since I have kept my windows tasks down to the bare minimum for the last 13 years to keep my PC's running clean and fast.
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Certain apps will just always restart. It seems like its programmed into Android. Voice search or whatever will always be running, no matter how many times its killed whether you used it or not. Same goes for gmail, messaging, and others.
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Here's what I keep on the ignore list for advanced task killer:
Handcent
Tasker
BatteryTime
Weather
Mail
Calendar
Clock
anything that starts with "com."

I also don't keep taskkiller running, nor do I have it on auto kill or auto start.
I manually run it to kill apps when I "feel" like things are slow
Maybe its just a placebo, oh well, peace of mind for me.
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