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Old April 7th, 2011, 07:50 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Secret Apple lover EarlyMon?
If you like.

I'm an equal opportunity hater - I have Windows, Linux and Mac all running in my house and think they all miss the boat.

But - I'll gladly extol the virtues of any one of them for the stuff they get right - this has made me liable to charges of every flavor of idiot fanboi, but I just believe in using the right tool for the job - likewise for the OS use.

Just use whatever works best for you and your stuff.

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The Linux vs Apple vs Windoze battle will rage on for centuries. At least Windoze got their head out of their ass and significantly improved after Vista.
And each of the three (Linux/Win/OSX) have done a great job getting their heads right - but it always seems like 3 steps forward and then 2 back for any one of them on any given day.

Tell you the truth - I'm looking forward to the possibility that one day, I'll be able to do use Android for just about everything personal.

As for Apple vs. Android - same thing, just choose the phone for your needs.

My daughter - a scientist - uses a Verizon iPhone 4. She uses it for 3 things and has no intention of changing: it's a phone, it's a portable Skype appliance, and every so often (not frequently), if her camera is out of reach, she can snap a picture in the lab. That's it, and it's simple, and her monthly plan is cheap for what she needs ($70). She's had email and web and mms and other apps before on previous smartphones - and just no longer wants or needs any of that in a smartphone - just three things.

So - there will always be room for both types of products, I think, because people don't come one size fits all.

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A note on iPhone apps in response to dollar-dollar-bill: everything costs extra on an iPhone it seems. You want the Skyfire browser that's free on Android so you can visit Flash sites - it's not free on the iPhone. I showed an iPhone buddy my free RemoteDroid being used to control my HTPC - he got a similar app for 5 or 6 bucks, none were free. You want to do a multitude of things we take for granted with free or ad-supported apps - on an iPhone you buy them. The last update for their desk/laptops introduced the Mac AppStore - same, same, same nonsense.

Their ecosystem works exactly as novox77 outlined - exactly.

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Old April 7th, 2011, 08:05 PM   #52 (permalink)
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If you like.

I'm an equal opportunity hater - I have Windows, Linux and Mac all running in my house and think they all miss the boat.
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But - I'll gladly extol the virtues of any one of them for the stuff they get right - this has made me liable to charges of every flavor of idiot fanboi, but I just believe in using the right tool for the job - likewise for the OS use.
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Your day will come.
I'm patiently awaiting that day. The only thing Windows 7 doesn't do for me is wipe my ass. And I'm running all sorts of audio equipment up to this puppy and between Pro Tools, Ableton, COK, and all my accounting stuff, no software issues to speak of. Even the horrible loss of internet connection that I had on Vista is gone.

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Can't ever cure PEBKAC, that's for sure.
My family wonders why I get annoyed when I give them tech support. Funny how it is never there fault....

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And each of the three (Linux/Win/OSX) have done a great job getting their heads right - but it always seems like 3 steps forward and then 2 back for any one of them on any given day.
I'm sorry, I refuse to listen to another Apple kid tell me how fast his $2800 Macbook Pro compared to my laptop. If there is one thing Apple knows how to do, it's rape people when it comes to $. Because I am peeved I cannot use Logic Pro and I want to test its abilities out, I am currently in the process of building my own Hackintosh. Which will easily tear up a $3000 desktop setup that you'd buy from Apple. It is here that I truly hope Apple lives up to all this hype that surrounds them. I've used OSX in class and there is a reason the business world uses XP. Accounting programs like XP way more than OSX. Not to mention, I'm pretty sure MSFT conveniently gave OSX users the middle finger with their Office Suite. Much more stuff to navigate then with quick windows shortcuts.

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Tell you the truth - I'm looking forward to the possibility that one day, I'll be able to do use Android for just about everything personal.
Google got a lot of things right with Android. I don't think I would ever use Chrome OS because I am perfectly content with Windoze Se7en but I definitely enjoy the seamless integration between my computers and my phone.

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A note on iPhone apps in response to dollar-dollar-bill: everything costs extra on an iPhone it seems. You want the Skyfire browser that's free on Android so you can visit Flash sites - it's not free on the iPhone. I showed an iPhone buddy my free RemoteDroid being used to control my HTPC - he got a similar app for 5 or 6 bucks, none were free. You want to do a multitude of things we take for granted with free or ad-supported apps - on an iPhone you buy them. The last update for their desk/laptops introduced the Mac AppStore - same, same, same nonsense.

Their ecosystem works exactly as novox77 outlined - exactly.
See above about Apple raking in the dough.
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Old April 7th, 2011, 08:37 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I'm sorry, I refuse to listen to another Apple kid tell me how fast his $2800 Macbook Pro compared to my laptop. If there is one thing Apple knows how to do, it's rape people when it comes to $.
You don't sound sorry - you sound like you want to start yet another anti-Apple rage subtopic. There's plenty in the Lounge - you made a charge, I answered it, I don't hear any kids here raising that issue you mentioned at all.

And if you think Microsoft got rich by not raping people, think again. Not one of these companies is your friend.

As for Office - I find it works better and faster on a Mac, and I've used its components on Windows since their introduction.

I just hope with these new phone processors and deeper memory, we'll get better Android choices for Office substitutes on our phones for when I'm in that pinch I sometimes face.

So - has this thread about Apple 3D vs. Evo 3D run its course?

I'm happy to discuss these things - but we should find the right venue.

If everyone's done discussing the thread's original topic, best we close this one and move on.

Your choice gang, I won't dictate.
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No OS is perfect.

You don't sound sorry - you sound like you want to start yet another anti-Apple rage subtopic. There's plenty in the Lounge - you made a charge, I answered it, I don't hear any kids here raising that issue you mentioned at all.

And if you think Microsoft got rich by not raping people, think again. Not one of these companies is your friend.

As for Office - I find it works better and faster on a Mac, and I've used its components on Windows since their introduction.

I just hope with these new phone processors and deeper memory, we'll get better Android choices for Office substitutes on our phones for when I'm in that pinch I sometimes face.

So - has this thread about Apple 3D vs. Evo 3D run its course?

I'm happy to discuss these things - but we should find the right venue.

If everyone's done discussing the thread's original topic, best we close this one and move on.

Your choice gang, I won't dictate.
You got the complete wrong vibe off that post then. I'm not going to debate anyone on the topic. As for Microsoft didn't get rich by raping people, student discounts on MSFT is way cheaper for me than Apple, I cannot speak for everyone else.
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Yeah, I'm running Win7 x64, and it is damn stable. I haven't rebooted my computer for months.
Then you're months behind on vital security patches. The days of saying "I haven't rebooted for months" and sounding smart about it, on any platform, are long gone. Even Linux has more regular kernel (ie, reboot requiring) updates than "months."
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Then you're months behind on vital security patches. The days of saying "I haven't rebooted for months" and sounding smart about it, on any platform, are long gone. Even Linux has more regular kernel (ie, reboot requiring) updates than "months."
And how do you know he does not use the computer as a multimedia editing device that is not attached to the internet? I know people who have full DAWs that do not dare connect it to the internet and do not update. This would completely dispel everything you stated.
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Then you're months behind on vital security patches. The days of saying "I haven't rebooted for months" and sounding smart about it, on any platform, are long gone. Even Linux has more regular kernel (ie, reboot requiring) updates than "months."
wasn't trying to sound smart... just an honest observation. And I do get occasional update notifications from Microsoft. I don't install them the instant they arrive; so you are right; at any time, I may be vulnerable to something... But I'm pretty vigilant about what traffic I let in to my home network.

Regardless of the updates, my point was that the OS doesn't need the reboot to clean itself up like the old days. And so far, I don't see any evidence of registry bloat affecting performance either.
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And how do you know he does not use the computer as a multimedia editing device that is not attached to the internet? I know people who have full DAWs that do not dare connect it to the internet and do not update. This would completely dispel everything you stated.
Because he said so
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Because he said so
He didn't mention anything about having internet access till after your post...
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Are we still discussing how my computer is completely overtaken by hackers and is generating a third of the world's spam?
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Are we still discussing how my computer is completely overtaken by hackers and is generating a third of the world's spam?
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