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HTC EVO 3D

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One of the main concerns that has been brought up relates to every day use and the 2D/3D toggle switch. The User Interface (Sense 3.0) is not in 3D (It does not pop out of the screen). The standard functions of the phone are in 2D just like every other phone. The 2D/3D toggle switch is for taking pictures and recording videos.

The HTC EVO 3D was released on the 24th of June, 2011. The phone is $199.99 on contract and $499.99 off contract.

The FCC has released some documents (2 Jun 11) with the hardware used in the EVO 3D: 3dEvo: Pre-release miscellany More info about the hardware and exact specs from the FCC is also being discussed in this thread as well.

Technical Specifications:
Network
2G:
- CDMA 800, 1900 MHz
- GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz (UK edition)
3G:
- CDMA2000 1xEV-DO
- HSDPA 2100 MHz
4G:
- WiMAX (Same as EVO 4G)

Dimensions
L x W x T: 126mm (5") x 65mm (2.6") x 12.05mm (.47")
Weight: 170 grams (6 ounces)
Form Factor: Slate

Display
Technology: TFT-LCD (Sharp AVS/Super Mobile)
Type: Capacitive 3D Touch Screen - Gorilla Glass (see post 212 in this thread)
Size: 4.3"
Colors & Pixels: 16M Colors & 960x540 pixels (qHD)

Input/ User Interface
Auto Stereoscopic 3D display
HTC Sense 3.0 UI
Multi Touch
Proximity Sensor
MPU-3050three-axis gyroscope!
G-Sensor
Accelerometer sensor for UI auto-rotate
Red and green notification lights

System Properties
Operating System: Android 2.3.3 (Gingerbread)
CPU: 1.2GHz dual core Qualcomm 8660 Snapdragon Processor
GPU: Adreno 220

Storage Capacity
Internal Memory:
- 1GB RAM (LPDDR2)
- 4GB ROM (eMMC)
Expandable Memory:
- Up to 32 GB microSD user storage optional, 8 GB stock

Browser & Messaging
HTML 4.0, XHTML 1.1, WAP 2.0
MMS, SMS, IM, Email

Camera & Video
Still (rear):
- 5 Megapixels (2560 x 1920 pixels)
- Dual-LED Flash
- Digital Zoom
Additional Camera (rear):
- 5 Megapixels (2560 x 1920 pixels)
Secondary:
- 1.3 Megapixels
Capturing Capability:
- 2D Photos Capturing with 5MP resolution
- 3D Photos Capturing with 2MP resolution
Video Recording:
- 720p HD video in 2D recording capable, 1080p viewing
- 720p HD video in 3D recording capable
Video Out:
- 1080p video via HDMI
- 720p 3D content via HDMI

Connectivity
Bluetooth & USB: v2.1 with EDR Stereo & v2.0 Micro USB (MHL)
WLAN:
- Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
- WiMAX 802.16 e
- DLNA
Headset: 3.5mm stereo headset jack
Radio: Stereo FM with RDS
GPS: A-GPS
3G:
- Rev. A, up to 3.1 Mbps
- HSDPA, 14.4 Mbps
- HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps

Music & Video
Music Formats:
- MP3 / M4A / QCP / AMR / AAC / AAC+ / eAAC+ / WAV / WMA / MIDI/ EVRC-B
Video Formats:
- MPEG4 / H.263 / H.264 / WMV

Battery
Type: Li-Ion 1730 mAh Standard Battery
Standby Time: Up to 355 hours
Talk Time: Up to 450 mins

Other Features
The Green Hornet 3D movie
Spiderman Total Mayhem 3D game demo
Blockbuster 3D Demand app.
YouTube 3D app.
Mobile Hotspot Capability For Up To 8 Devices
Sprint Mobile Hotspot(Up to 8 Wi-Fi enabled devices)
Android Market, Google Search, Maps,
Gmail, Google Talk,
Picasa integration, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook
Visual Voice Mail, GPS Navigation, Offline Navigation
Turn by Turn Navigation

Colors Availability Black

Informative Quotes:
Screen dimensions and resolutions:
Smaller screen on 3d??
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Originally Posted by EarlyMon View Post
Using geometry, we can also arrive at the final dimension - or you can just use this handy calculator, like I did - Screen Aspect Ratio & Dimension Calculator

Evo @ 15:9 w/ 4.3" -> 2.21" x 3.69" -> Area = 8.16 sq. in.
E3D @ 16:9 w/ 4.3" -> 2.11" x 3.75" -> Area = 7.90 sq. in.

Evo dimensions verified by my 10ths ruler - hehehe.

Total area difference - probably about two of these: on most screens viewing this post.
Miscellaneous questions:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/345965-few-questions-about-evo-3d.html
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Originally Posted by ebolamonkey3 View Post
Hey guys, tried to find this myself, but didn't turn up anything conclusive. So any help would be appreciated

1. Can the Evo 3D use data and voice simultaneously?
-Not like AT&T - if you have WiMAX (4G) or wifi available, then yes - if just basic 3G, then no.

2. Does the Evo 3D have a notification light?
-Pretty sure.

3. Can I turn the screen to 2D out of preference or to save battery?
-The screen is 2D by default and only switches to 3D (automatically) when playing 3D movies or games or viewing 3D pictures.

Answers form EarlyMon
Benefits of the camera:
What's the advantage of dedicated camera button?
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Yeah, this pretty much sums it up.

Having the shutter where it is allows you to grip the phone well AND press the shutter button with ease. This will reduce hand shake a lot which means higher degree of success for those low-light shots. I have a hard time using the touchscreen shutter button, especially when I'm trying to grab a quick shot. With a dedicated shutter, you also know exactly where the shutter button is with your finger, so you can focus on keeping your shot composed.

And Cavemansol mentioned being able to adjust your composition once you've held down the shutter button halfway. Can't do this on current phone cameras. There's no halfway on a touchscreen So yeah, the focus lock is a great tool for making your photos more interesting. While I don't like "rules," check out the "rule of thirds" as it applies to composition.

And it's unknown if repeatedly half-pressing the shutter will get the camera to choose a different focal point. Canon tends to do this with their dedicated cameras.

It's a great feature if you take pics with your phone.
3D capabilities:
3D "Pop-out" clarified and "violations" that lead to discomfort
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...Commonly, the distance between cameras (aka the stereo base) is set to the human interocular distance (distance between human eyes), which is about 2.5". But there's no real reason why this needs to be enforced; it really depends on the scale of your subject. If you're taking a picture of insects, your camera lenses should be much closer together. If you're taking a picture of the grand canyon, the cameras should be very far apart. Again, that article above talks about why you may want to use cameras that are further apart. But a moot point for E3D since we can't adjust the cameras. But given that the Evo's cameras are kinda close together, the best 3D shots will be with subjects closer to the screen.

Onto the discomfort.

My source tells me that pop-out is actually not very desirable for two reasons:

1) it causes eye strain due to the need to focus on a point close to the eyes (cross-eye). Prolonged cross-eye is not comfortable.

2) when a pop-out object is cropped by the edge of the screen, our brain freaks out because it conflicts with reality. The object should appear in front of the edge and not be cut off. This is considered a violation of good stereoscopy and should be avoided.

Another violation is an exaggeration of depth where the distance between stereo images exceeds the interocular distance. This isn't going to be a problem with the Evo 3D's images, but this is much more common in a theater. Film producers sometimes push the limit to try to give the scene maximum depth by spacing out the parallax images. This can trigger instant headaches. Also if you sit too close to the screen, the problem becomes amplified.

He rattled off a few more violations that I can't recall, but basically he says that the violations are what make 3D gimmicky, and it's also responsible for the discomfort and inability to see in 3D for some subset of the public. When the rules of stereoscopy are obeyed, the results are spectacular and comfortable to view, because they simulate depth realistically.

Performance (over/underclocking) and battery life:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/331783-underlying-tech-evo-3d-qhd-3d-dual-core-smp.html
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If all things were equal, you're right - no such thing as a free lunch - so running faster means using more juice and lots of it goes to wasted heat.

In this case (for Evo users) - it's using a more advanced manufacturing process where the stuff in the SoC (transistors, etc, etc, etc...) are smaller and closer together - lots smaller. Smaller stuff takes less power to run than the same stuff when bigger.

So - in this case, if you put an Evo side by side with an equivalent made with the newer process, the newer one will be more power efficient - enter the Thunderbolt. In that case, tho, they made the battery smaller, so on that one, there wasn't the big gain in advantage.

In this case, the silicon is made with the smaller manufacturing process (45nm vs. 65) _and_ the battery is bigger.

The SoC - the MSM8660 - in the E3D does indeed have a dynamic clock like the Evo (it's pretty much the rule now).

And - we tend to expect a dual-core to run any given process at lower speed than if run on a single-core (providing things are optimized sufficiently for dual-core use - we won't know that until it's here).

Downside - higher resolution. With more dots to update on graphics-intensive tasks, more processing is required at the end. More pixels also mean more control transistors on the display itself (by definition for LCDs).

There are just too many factors to know in advance if this will act same, worse or better than an Evo on power.

It could be way more power-efficient - or it could be worse - we'll have to wait and see.
Benefits of a dual core processor:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/331783-underlying-tech-evo-3d-qhd-3d-dual-core-smp.html
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Originally Posted by Acei View Post
Jensen nailed it. In the Android environment, you can't do any process intensive tasks on the foreground thread which processes GUI, otherwise you will end up with super-unresponsive apps. By this nature, you are pretty much forced to go multi-thread. As long as the version of Android used in the phone is SMP enabled, both cores will work at these threads independently, hence experiencing performance gains.

It is true that most apps of today won't utilize both cores to 100% all the time since the workload isn't split symmetrically, but still, a benefit is a benefit. Apps like Smartbench 2011 (I am the author) does symmetrically split workload within the app - I currently split the workload equally into 4 threads hence Smartbench 2011 will utilize 100% up to 4 cores when they become available.
Developer developments:
3dEvo: Pre-release miscellany
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Originally Posted by EarlyMon View Post
It means developers can create apps that are Sense-like.

Quote:
The HTC OpenSense SDK will allow developers to harness software and hardware innovations on HTC phones to develop more deeply integrated mobile apps and experiences. Altogether, you'll have access to documentation, sample code, APIs and more importantly, the support and inspiration of the HTCdev community.

The Common Controls:
As a part of the latest Sense UI framework, HTC developed a suite of customized controls that Android application developers can use to create a Sense look and feel within their applications.
That means Sense dialog boxes, buttons, progress bars.

Quote:
Be among the first to access the latest HTC technology with the Tablet pen API and Stereoscopic 3D display API and sample code.
That means access to develop 3D stuff - jump started with samples of working code.

~~~~~

It means devs get to use a common code with Sense - if the feature works in Sense, it'll work in the new app, same way.
Memory:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/346198-htc-evo-3d-dummies-2.html#post2776843
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ROM vs RAM vs eMMC

In the old days, we had RAM - random access memory, meaning you get to any memory bit any way you liked. We still have that.

In the old days, we had a kind of chip called ROM - read-only memory (with random access) - and the thing with ROM is it remembers when the power is off (RAM forgets when the power is off). A ROM could never be written to once burned at the factory. Then we had various programmable ROMs, where you could write to them for some limited number of times, but you could read them to your heart's content - these, we used for PC BIOS for those of you familiar with that.

Years ago, they invented a new kind of memory that they called flash memory. Any of your USB sticks or SD cards of any kind - all flash memory. If you recall, advanced smartphones, MP3 players and USB sticks all started hitting the shelves at about the same time - because of flash memory.

The thing we call ROM in modern smartphones isn't ROM at all, it just acts like ROM because it remembers when the power is off - it's been flash memory all along.

An SD card is a type of multi-media card (MMC). Recently, someone bright said - hey, we have one type of interface to the SD card and another type of interface to this stuff we're telling people is ROM, but it's all just flash memory. How about we make the ROM thingy with the same interface to simplify things? Good idea, so they did it.

And that's the eMMC flash memory aka ROM in the 3vo.

So - in that one Samsung package, there's going to 1 GB LPDDR2 RAM and 4 GB eMMC - or you can call it 1GB RAM / 4GB ROM.

(Fun fact if you've read this far. Flash memory is factory-built with one of two types of logic - NOR (not or) or NAND (not and). The flash we use in our phones is the nand logic type. So when you hear rooters talking about the NAND bootloader or making a nandroid backup of their rom - it's all about using slang for the actual type of flash memory the phones have.)

And on that odd distribution of RAM - if there's 256 MB squirreled away inside the 8660, Qualcomm isn't talking, so I don't know. Or the actual MCP will have 1GB. Either way - it's going to have 1 GB RAM, imo.

btw - LPDDR2 RAM and LPDDR2 SDRAM are the same thing, call it either way you like, I chose the former because it's 2 fewer characters to type.
Related Threads and Links:
Evo3D wiki
Sprint- All Together Now
HTC - Products - HTC EVO 3D ? Overview
Underlying tech in the Evo 3D - qHD, 3D, dual-core SMP
EVO 3D speculation of specs
3D "Pop-out" clarified and "violations" that lead to discomfort
3D is part of the natural progression of display technology
Question about graphical capabilities of the Evo 3D compared to Tegra 2 chipsets.
http://androidforums.com/android-lounge/337690-samsung-galaxy-s2-vs-htc-evo-3d-comparison.html#post2698952
Is the glass beveled on the E3D like the sensation? (No it isn't)
Bootloader Discussion
No need to panic about 'locked' bootloader - HTC listened


Dedicated Camera:
http://www.htcmobilephonesreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/14e1c_htc_htc_evo_3D_video.jpg

http://androidheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/htc_evo_3d_ac8.png


The Back:
http://androinica.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/htc-evo-3d-battery.jpg


In hand:
http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/IMG_9891.jpg

http://www.techmagnews.com/wp-content/uploads/images/HTC_Evo_3D_Heading_for_Europe_Companys_French_Twit ter_Page_Hints_at_Roll_Out_2.jpg


KickStand Case:
http://static.phonesreview.co.uk/wp-content/phoneimages/2011/03/HTC-EVO-3D-Accessories-New-Kickstand-Release-main-pic2.jpg


EVO 4G vs. EVO 3D:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/htc-evo-3d-4g-02-sm.jpg


RadioShack Ad:
http://img.gadgetian.com/HTC-EVO-3D-RadioShack-Tradein-Program_thumb.jpg

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nice. i could use your help with the Evo3D wiki if that's something you'd be interested in. Haven't had the time lately to expand it.
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Nicely done.

This thread will be for info links only to threads here that help provide reference info, possibly including wiki discussions.

Other discussions, some external links, etc, will be moved out to the right threads.

Think of this as a master index.

Please post links to threads and/or posts that really helped you clarify the ins and outs of the Evo 3D.

Stickied for now.
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nice. i could use your help with the Evo3D wiki if that's something you'd be interested in. Haven't had the time lately to expand it.

I could probably help on the weekend. I'll take a closer look at it after I get off work (GY shift sucks...).
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Release date pegged at June 24th - http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/305558-anyone-know-when-its-going-released-17.html#post2761482
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Added a picture along with release date and price(s).
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- 5 Megapixels
- 32642448 pixels

Uhh, isn't this a little high for 5 megapixels? I noticed this last night but thought it would have been corrected by today. 3264*2448 is 8mp not 5mp.
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Fixed.

Can anyone confirm the exact specs yet? It seems like every site has some slight variations (like the wrong pixel count or lack of a Gyro Sensor).

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-EVO-3D_id5321
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_3d-3901.php
http://htcevo3d.wikia.com/wiki/Specifications

I saw some rumors that it will come with an HDMI cable as well? Anything supporting that (and the Green Hornet video being pre-loaded) would be nice. I supposed we won't until until we get an official release date I suppose.
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Courtesy of BenChase7 - Sprint confirms Green Hornet preloaded for a limited time -

Sprint Newsroom | Exciting Content Coming for this Summer's Highly Anticipated Smartphone, HTC EVO 3D Exclusively from Sprint

540x960 is correct - that's standard qHD (take 1920x1080 and divide each by two).

All three sources call this S-LCD technology. That is not correct. SLCD is a brand (Samsung+Sony conglomerate, big supplier in this field). The CTIA 26 minute video clearly said the display was by Sharp, and that was confirmed by specific questioning on that point. To my knowledge (and I may be mistaken, but don't think so) all Sharp manufacturing for LCD panels uses the AVS technology, or a variant of it that they call Super Mobile. Sharp has the largest fabs for this, so far as I recall, and has produced consumer LCDs longer than anyone else (first LCD TV on the market). Sharp has pioneered in autostereoscopy and is several generations in to production.

Sharp's 3D LCD: how's that work, then? - The Register

About SHARP Technology: SHARP Electronic Components

About SHARP Technology: SHARP Electronic Components

They refer to TFT-LCD in their write-ups, don't let that cause confusion, they're basically all TFT-LCDs, including AVS, etc etc -

TFT LCD - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BTW - same CTIA 26 minute vid confirmed the Sprint version has 4G/WiMAX. I identified it as the same WiMAX SoC as found in the Evo, but I have no idea now how I found that out - just can't remember! -

http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/305679-evo-3d-speculation-specs-4.html#post2622840

No idea if HDMI cable is included, but here's one of many posts on MHL->HDMI conversion cables -

Question about HDMI

The Sensation released in the UK lacked the HDMI cable.

(Somebuddy else here in this forum turned me on to that, many apologies, don't mean to steal any credit, but I couldn't find it in a quick search, so there's my plagiarized copy, above. If the real guy who found that can chime in, all credit due you!)

HTCs have included a g-sensor in addition to accelerometers (an acceleration sensor) for some time. Blogs perennially confuse that with a gyroscope and will claim new HTC phones have a gyroscope, gyro sensor or gravity sensor. A g-sensor+accelerometers do the same thing as a gyroscope in principle, but a gyroscope is smoother, faster, better. Google for "htc g-sensor" will turn up a lot of info.

Did the blogs accidentally get it right and the 3vo has an actual gyroscope? I _really_ doubt it, but we'll know for sure when someone like ifixit.com does a teardown and lists the chips.

Hope this helps a little.

PS - The HTC website lists the display as Super LCD. Nonsense. Sharp Super Mobile LCD, maybe.
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I might have been to lazy to read the whole thing, but isn't the screen suppose to be qHD, and not QVGA?
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Oh, I thought so; QVGA is 320x240, qHD is 960x540.
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I put qHD under "type," not sure where I got that QVGA from, maybe another typo or something I just copied from one of the sources. Fixed now.

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HTCs have included a g-sensor in addition to accelerometers (an acceleration sensor) for some time. Blogs perennially confuse that with a gyroscope and will claim new HTC phones have a gyroscope, gyro sensor or gravity sensor. A g-sensor+accelerometers do the same thing as a gyroscope in principle, but a gyroscope is smoother, faster, better. Google for "htc g-sensor" will turn up a lot of info.


Did the blogs accidentally get it right and the 3vo has an actual gyroscope? I _really_ doubt it, but we'll know for sure when someone like ifixit.com does a teardown and lists the chips.

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That's interesting to know. Someone brought something up like this in the games forum. The game Modern Combat by Gameloft has a control setup where you use the gyroscope on the iPhone to aim instead of using the screen (and probably easier to play) and was frustrated his Android device didn't have the same settings in the game. HTC seems to have one of the higher quality phones, I'm curios now as to why they wouldn't use the better technology for something like this, like the gyroscope you mentioned.
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Apple's introduction of a gyroscope was simply highly innovative - Android models just don't seem to be there yet, whether HTC, Sammy, Moto, or LG. (I don't know all details on every model, but pretty sure none of them include it.) Your guess is as good as mine as to why not. They don't consider it their target market yet? Explosive growth with Android puts them catching up to understanding customers desires?

Here's a view of a MEMS gyro for those interested - iPhone 4 Gyroscope Teardown - iFixit

Anyway - stress that my impression is the 3vo doesn't have one because I'd have expected serious press on it from CTIA.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned anywhere is where the Evo 3D will have NFC. Can anyone confirm either way?

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned anywhere is where the Evo 3D will have NFC. Can anyone confirm either way?

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It is highly unlikely. If it ends up confirmed, follow this link for an accessory that gives you NFC:

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Apple's introduction of a gyroscope was simply highly innovative - Android models just don't seem to be there yet, whether HTC, Sammy, Moto, or LG. (I don't know all details on every model, but pretty sure none of them include it.) Your guess is as good as mine as to why not. They don't consider it their target market yet? Explosive growth with Android puts them catching up to understanding customers desires?

Here's a view of a MEMS gyro for those interested - iPhone 4 Gyroscope Teardown - iFixit

Anyway - stress that my impression is the 3vo doesn't have one because I'd have expected serious press on it from CTIA.

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Cool. Well, I removed Gyro Sensor and left G-Sensor, hopefully that is a bit clearer. Someone pointed out to me that someone copied this and posted it on the XDA forums (PLAGIARISM! ) and one person had a question about whether or not it would have Guerrilla Glass. The Sensation review said that one had it, so I'm going to assume the E3D does as well. Is this confirmed anywhere?

HTC EVO 3D for Dummies... - xda-developers

Also, I've been looking around for more info on the simultaneous voice/data usage but can't find anything. Someone said on Android Police (this was a year ago though) that Sprint was looking into it. Anyone know if this is still something they are looking into or is it a limitation that comes with the CDMA network?
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Cool. Well, I removed Gyro Sensor and left G-Sensor, hopefully that is a bit clearer. Someone pointed out to me that someone copied this and posted it on the XDA forums (PLAGIARISM! ) and one person had a question about whether or not it would have Guerrilla Glass. The Sensation review said that one had it, so I'm going to assume the E3D does as well. Is this confirmed anywhere?

HTC EVO 3D for Dummies... - xda-developers

Also, I've been looking around for more info on the simultaneous voice/data usage but can't find anything. Someone said on Android Police (this was a year ago though) that Sprint was looking into it. Anyone know if this is still something they are looking into or is it a limitation that comes with the CDMA network?
I'm 99% sure that on one of the hands on video's that they say it has Guerrilla Glass.

As for simutaneous voice/data, that is only when you are in 4G coverage or on wifi (the same as all of the other Sprint phones)
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As for simutaneous voice/data, that is only when you are in 4G coverage or on wifi (the same as all of the other Sprint phones)
I understand that part, I was just curious if they were looking into making it work on 3G.
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I understand that part, I was just curious if they were looking into making it work on 3G.
SVDO allow simultaneous 1x voice and EVDO data : EVDOinfo.com

No one's deploying that so far as I know, it's all going 4G.

Our European cousins with GSM 3vos might be able to pull it off, tho.
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Finally, some FCC documents.
Huge news like you don't believe while I eat some tasty crow - and love it.

Getting while the gettin's hot - I downloaded the schematics for this baby from the FCC.

Sequans SQN1210 confirmed.

It has one of these, just like I said:

BMA250 - Digital, Triaxial Acceleration Sensor - Bosch | DigiKey - 3 axis accelerometer

And in the same circuit, it lists an MPU-3050 - here's the references to the MPU-3000, and here's the one where Chipwork's teardown of the BB Playbook identifies the MPU-3050 as a three-axis gyroscope!

MEMS Gyro | Gyroscope | Motion Plus | Processing - MPU-3000

Teardown of the RIM BlackBerry Playbook Recent Teardowns Chipworks

43 pages of schematics (gyro on page 9) and a long day at work. If I find the second LED, I'll post back.

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Maybe I should have done more than just pressed PGDN through all those schematics, heh. ok, I guess I'll help find that LED.


GOT IT: page 20 of 43 on that Schematics PDF: There is an AMBER and GREEN LED!
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Why are you eating crow? Looks like good news!
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That's awesome! I added those changes into the OP. Hopefully we'll get some sweet apps (such as updated Gameloft games) that take advantage of that gyroscope. What "chipset" for the accelerometer generall use, such as the EVO 4G?

EDIT: Added the "Amber and green notification lights" to the Input/User Interface section as well, great find novox!

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There's also reference to NFC support on the PM8058 schematic (page 27 of 43)... So I googled PM8058 along with NFC and got this:

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https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=commitdiff_plain;h=59ff4f9a897de674f7f73 88ca46c0016519d7df2
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Loads of news today! Thank all you guys for acquiring all the info! And what does that mean for the phone Novox?
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Loads of news today! Thank all you guys for acquiring all the info! And what does that mean for the phone Novox?
It means the E3D will have power management support of NFC, but that doesn't mean it will be equipped with NFC. It opens the door to the possibility though. NFC through the SD card like what's been discussed around here. I wouldn't include this info in the OP. Just reporting that there was a brief mention of NFC in the schematics.
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No one's deploying that so far as I know, it's all going 4G.

Our European cousins with GSM 3vos might be able to pull it off, tho.
The thunderbolt/verizon support svdo on parts of their network so you can do voice and data on 3g.
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This is what I posted but I can remove it all together if you believe it isn't really something note worthy:

Novox77 has confirmed that there will be NFC support with the PM8058 chip through for any 3rd party's NFC chip, like FeliCa chip (Keep in mind this is not an actual NFC chip). A little bit more info about this discovery can be found farther down in this thread: HTC EVO 3D for DUMMIES!
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I found one website that listed support for for HID profiles under the bluetooth specs, meaning that the 3d should support ps3 controllers and wiimotes for gaming, as well as bluetooth keyboards etc.. Can this be confirmed by anyone as being correct?
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I found one website that listed support for for HID profiles under the bluetooth specs, meaning that the 3d should support ps3 controllers and wiimotes for gaming, as well as bluetooth keyboards etc.. Can this be confirmed by anyone as being correct?
I'm hoping someone can confirm this. I've been wanting to connect a wiimote to my EVO for quite some time without having to get rid of sense.
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page 20 of 43 on that Schematics PDF: There is an AMBER and GREEN LED!
Am I remembering correctly that the EVO 4G had two separate notification areas (e.g. one on front and one on back)?

(Given that these are coming from adjacent pins, I suspect it's like what I've seen on the Shift where the front LED changes from amber while charging to green when it's done charging, which presumably requires a green and amber LED. The only other LED references I see are apparently for the camera flash.)
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Am I remembering correctly that the EVO 4G had two separate notification areas (e.g. one on front and one on back)?

(Given that these are coming from adjacent pins, I suspect it's like what I've seen on the Shift where the front LED changes from amber while charging to green when it's done charging, which presumably requires a green and amber LED. The only other LED references I see are apparently for the camera flash.)
There are two notifications lights on the front of the EVO 4G in the speaker at the top. The one on the left is for the charger, which is green and amber, then there is one on the right that flashes when you get a text or some other notifcation like an email. I believe this is green and amber as well, but I cannot remember what it was originally like since I have flashed...right now it is a darker green than the one the charger has on the left.
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Am I remembering correctly that the EVO 4G had two separate notification areas (e.g. one on front and one on back)?

(Given that these are coming from adjacent pins, I suspect it's like what I've seen on the Shift where the front LED changes from amber while charging to green when it's done charging, which presumably requires a green and amber LED. The only other LED references I see are apparently for the camera flash.)
You are correct Cobalt. (in the Evo 3D) This is one LED that does 2 colors or two adjacent LED's that do one color a piece slightly angled toward center. Low Battery amber, green fully charged/notifications just like on the Evo 4G's native notification area. Based upon my perusing of the document it appears there is only one native location for notifications and a dual LED flash for the camera.
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I found one website that listed support for for HID profiles under the bluetooth specs, meaning that the 3d should support ps3 controllers and wiimotes for gaming, as well as bluetooth keyboards etc.. Can this be confirmed by anyone as being correct?
I did try to find any reference to this in the schematics, but came up empty. I think the BT stack stuff is all software, so it wouldn't be there. Don't think we can confirm this one until we try to pair a HID device to the phone.....


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Am I remembering correctly that the EVO 4G had two separate notification areas (e.g. one on front and one on back)?

(Given that these are coming from adjacent pins, I suspect it's like what I've seen on the Shift where the front LED changes from amber while charging to green when it's done charging, which presumably requires a green and amber LED. The only other LED references I see are apparently for the camera flash.)
Hmm, you may be right. One of the notification lights on the Evo changes from amber to green based on charge, as you say. And then there's the other LED on the Evo that is a darker green on the right side that was not used by the factory ROM. Later, devs found it and started to use it for various notification purposes. Yeah, might need to backtrack on this one.
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There are two notifications lights on the front of the EVO 4G in the speaker at the top. The one on the left is for the charger, which is green and amber, then there is one on the right that flashes when you get a text or some other notifcation like an email. I believe this is green and amber as well, but I cannot remember what it was originally like since I have flashed...right now it is a darker green than the one the charger has on the left.
Ah, okay, thanks for the info. So on the Shift, the green/amber charging light (on the right side of the front top speaker grill) appears to be the same spot that blinks (green?) for notifications.
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Hmm, you may be right. One of the notification lights on the Evo changes from amber to green based on charge, as you say. And then there's the other LED on the Evo that is a darker green on the right side that was not used by the factory ROM. Later, devs found it and started to use it for various notification purposes. Yeah, might need to backtrack on this one.
Well, I wouldn't give up hope entirely. I noticed two separate LED references *other* than those green and amber ones. All those references appeared to be related to the camera, and so I suspected them to refer to the same LED (i.e. the flashbulb), but since they do have different names I'm hesitant to completely rule out the possibility that one's the flash LED and the other's actually a second notifier.
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Was hoping to find the Evo 4G's schematics on the FCC site to see if the extra LED was indicated, but came up empty (no schematics there). Here's what was available for anyone interested. Got to see the prototype with the red grille and red outline for the search button:

https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout =500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=939126&fcc_i d=%27NM8PC36100%27
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To all contributors of this thread: Thanks! This is THE thread that 3VO forum miners like myself, have looked for, for a month. Thanks for all the hard work! I'm getting giddy thinking that within a few short weeks, we'll be holding that lovely beast in our hands! Ooohrah!
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I got a big warning from my browser when I tried to visit that link. Just so everyone knows, it's safe.
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But seriously, the schematics will probably be hidden in a short order, once HTC/Sprint notice that they're available for public viewing. It may be prudent to download a copy before that issue is corrected, if you should so care about the schematics.
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But seriously, the schematics will probably be hidden in a short order, once HTC/Sprint notice that they're available for public viewing. It may be prudent to download a copy before that issue is corrected, if you should so care about the schematics.
Agreed, they aren't supposed to be up there according to another posted document.
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On page 6 of the schematic it shows 768MB LPDDR2-SDRAM and 4GB eMMC (ROM)...could one of the other system chips on board contain the small difference and consider the space as RAM?

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On the right diagram on page 6 just underneath the circuit board there is a really small *TBD but no reference point on the board itself. Maybe that was their little clause?
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Will post more as I study and learn - no promises other than to remain on the case.

I know others are doing the same - and how cool is that?






Tres cool, that's what!

(PS - that tasty crow? Yours truly was flapping away just a day ago saying I doubted it would include a gyro!)
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If I missed this being posted, please edit this post out as needed

I did not see this noted, but thought it would be worth considering. In page 42 of the schematic of the EVO 3D shows the Broadcom BCM4329. This has the ability to receive and transmit FM signals. I am not sure the phone will have this turned on, but if so, I think it would transmit directly to any FM radio. First link to schematic, second to Broadcom product page.

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1475266

Broadcom.com - BCM4329 - Low-Power 802.11n with Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR and FM (Tx and Rx)
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I did not see this noted, but thought it would be worth considering. In page 42 of the schematic of the EVO 3D shows the Broadcom BCM4329. This has the ability to receive and transmit FM signals. I am not sure the phone will have this turned on, but if so, I think it would transmit directly to any FM radio. First link to schematic, second to Broadcom product page.

Broadcom.com - BCM4329 - Low-Power 802.11n with Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR and FM (Tx and Rx)
No one brought that one up yet, might be a good catch. Although, according to iFixit's tear down, the Evo 4G also has the Broadcom 4329 installed. So its more or less the same hardware unless there was a revision that didn't constitute a number change. Question will be how its connected to the board and how/if the new software utilizes the full function of the chip.
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My apologies. Please disregard adding the transmit portion of the BCM 4329.

A closer look at the schematic does show the possibility of transmit. However, each line dedicated for transmit, designated by FM_TX with miscellaneous functions, go literally nowhere. Unless this schematic doesn't reveal everything, I do not see the E3D transmitting radio signals via FM.
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I did not see this noted, but thought it would be worth considering. In page 42 of the schematic of the EVO 3D shows the Broadcom BCM4329. This has the ability to receive and transmit FM signals. I am not sure the phone will have this turned on, but if so, I think it would transmit directly to any FM radio. First link to schematic, second to Broadcom product page.

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1475266

Broadcom.com - BCM4329 - Low-Power 802.11n with Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR and FM (Tx and Rx)
FM does not mean car radio stuff, its the type of modulation its using to transmit the sound of your voice (or other sounds and data) over the bluetooth signal (or other radio waves). Its a common mistake people make when they see "fm" on something, has nothing to do with being able to broadcast to your car stereo. Frequency modulation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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FM does not mean car radio stuff, its the type of modulation its using to transmit the sound of your voice (or other sounds and data) over the bluetooth signal (or other radio waves). Its a common mistake people make when they see "fm" on something, has nothing to do with being able to broadcast to your car stereo. Frequency modulation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In the case of the schematic, however, the FM_RX lines point to commonly used radio functions. FM_ADJACK, for example, connects directly with FM_RXP. The labeling of this line as WFM_ANT_1 in red points to the common method of connecting an antenna through the headset port/jack to receive FM signals to the phone.

This would indicate to me that, like the original Nexus and the EVO 4G, the radio has FM receive/transmit capability, but is not connected to transmit.
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In the case of the schematic, however, the FM_RX lines point to commonly used radio functions. FM_ADJACK, for example, connects directly with FM_RXP. The labeling of this line as WFM_ANT_1 in red points to the common method of connecting an antenna through the headset port/jack to receive FM signals to the phone.

This would indicate to me that, like the original Nexus and the EVO 4G, the radio has FM receive/transmit capability, but is not connected to transmit.
I agree with this. I remember seeing some news story, maybe last year, that said the government (FCC specifically) is requiring all cellphones to be able to receive FM transmissions. Probably AM, too. The reason is...so everyone could get emergency broadcasts (weather, terror, etc) through their cellphone, even if cell networks are down.
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