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Old June 8th, 2011, 01:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Micro SDHC card discussion for the Evo 3D.

This will be my first smartphone, and I just wanted to ask some newb questions in anticipation of this phone launching ;p

Will it come with a micro sd card? I wouldnt think so since stats mention 4gb onboard storage. I saw some other posts with people being like "if it doesn't come with a card I will do so and so...."

Do these people have reason to believe it would come with a card? Have previous Sprint or HTC phones come with a card? I will still probably buy a 32gb card but would be a shame to have a pack in card that I wouldn't be using.

Also, seems like the best deal for a 32gb Micro sdhc is around $60 which is fine by me. But the ones I see listed for this price are class 2. If I put the card in the phone and never remove it do I really need a class 4 or 6, which from I read xfer data faster? I can't imgaine what other devices I would swap the card into, and device can stream data over a usb if I need to transfer a photo or somthing.

Also I read that Sandisk is the best brand if not equivalent to being as good as any other brand. Any opinions there are appreciated.

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I was wondering the same thing.

since its got higher res recording and 3D recording, which may work better with higher read/write speeds, will that mean I should go for a higher "class" SD card (i.e. class 10 SD card)?
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Will it come with a micro sd card? I wouldnt think so since stats mention 1gb onboard storage. I saw some other posts with people being like "if it doesn't come with a card I will do so and so...."

Do these people have reason to believe it would come with a card? Have previous Sprint or HTC phones come with a card? I will still probably buy a 32gb card but would be a shame to have a pack in card that I wouldn't be using.

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Yea, the 3vo will come with an SD card... 8GB. Most Sprint phones do... EVO 4G came with an 8GB SD card as well.

And the on board storage of the 3vo is 4GB (not 1).
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Lexar and Patriot both make 32GB Class 10 uSDHC cards. Patriot in specific is big in the memory game and Lexar is good as well. I have a Patriot card in my 4G right now while I wait for the E3D. It works perfect. A few others on other forums have the Lexar one and says it works for them.
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What does having a class 10 card improve? Load times for any thing saved to the card?
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What does having a class 10 card improve? Load times for any thing saved to the card?
Load times to and from, read speeds as well.
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Load times to and from, read speeds as well.
On many devices, some video recording qualities require a certain speed of card as well. (E.g. maybe you can't do HD recording without class 6 or better -- something like that.) I haven't seen any specific requirements for the EVO 3D yet, but we might find out more later.
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I'm not sure a Class 10 card is necessary. I've always been under the impression that they are best used for professional photography.
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I've recorded on my DroidX's Class 4 SD card in HD with no problem. Also, 8GB will probably be more than sufficient of an SD card. Unless you plan on holding a lot of music/movies on it.

Also, when you get the phone, do yourself a favor and make sure all apps put themselves on the internal memory. Porting apps to SD card is more for the lower end/older phones that don't have a lot of internal space. The E3D is definitely not in this class. Putting apps on the SD card just causes problems. It makes widgets not work and if you connect your USB cable and have it in Mass Storage mode, the apps on the SD card will crash.
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I ordered a Kingston 32gb class 10 card. Although Class 10 may not be necissary for the E3D, there are other things I can use it for.
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Same here, I been looking at these class 10, but not sure if they will work in the phone.

Newegg.com - ADATA 32GB Micro SDHC Flash Card with Adapter Model AUSDH32GCL10-RA1

Newegg.com - Kingston 32GB Micro SDHC Flash Card (Card Only) Model SDC10/32GBSP
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Those will work but what are you trying to accomplish with a Class 10? You're using this on a phone. Not professional photography or the few other special cases.

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To help you find the right speed, SD/SDHC cards are broken down into four classes: Class 2, Class 4, Class 6 and Class 10. Class 2 cards offer a minimum sustained data rate of 2 megabytes per second (MBps), Class 4 of 4MBps and Class 6 of 6MBps and Class 10 of 10MBps. Depending on which manufacturer is selling the card, the speed class will either be prominently displayed or buried in the specs. Either way, look for it.
For standard definition camcorders, an SD/SDHC card with a Class 2 speed is all you would need. Itís fast enough to handle the highest quality standard definition video you can record. For high definition camcorders, youíre safest going with a Class 6 card. While you may be tempted to spring for a Class 10 card, you'll be paying for performance you don't need in a digital camcorder.
That was the best summarized version on about.com I could find in a quick google search. All you'll be doing is paying extra money for something you do not need.
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Cause I cant find any Class 6 ones

which one is the EVO3d? Microsdhc host device or standard microSD enabled device/readers

Compatible - with microSDHC host devices; not compatible with standard microSD-enableddevice/readers
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Those will work but what are you trying to accomplish with a Class 10? You're using this on a phone. Not professional photography or the few other special cases.



That was the best summarized version on about.com I could find in a quick google search. All you'll be doing is paying extra money for something you do not need.
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I just bought this, much cheaper than some of the other ones linked.

Amazon.com: Sandisk 32GB MicroSDHC Micro SD Card with MicroSD to SD adapter & Mobilemate Reader: Electronics
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FYI, I'm of general agreement that most people do not "need" the higher classes and could probably get away with a Class 4 (though we will have to see what bitrate the video is being encoded with), I will point out that for those of us that are impatient (like me), a Class 10 card would show its benefits in transferring media or video back and forth between your computer.

--in particular, the gigabytes of music and movies I swap in and out of my phone regularly.
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I think the issue is they want the "best" and not good enough. That's fine for folks who like to buy stuff knowing that next month it will have to be replaced to maintain the 'best'.

Btw for the transformer (asus) I find class 6 more than adequate for streaming videos. I guess it isn't the best; but it seems to be good enough (for me). Actually I was looking for class 4 but the vendor was sold out so I ended up with class 6 (rather have class 4 because I'm a low class sort of person).
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However if you actually want the best be sure to examine benchmarks for both new and used objects (r/w times do change depdent on which technology they use to manage free space; esp as you delete objects). Not all class x cards are equivalent and in many cases class y (y < x) can be faster in the cases that might be most relevant to your usage.
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if you are recording at 1080p it is recommended that you use class 10, class 6 will probably do as well. I wouldn't buy a class 4 these days, the price difference is very minimum.
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Always buy the fastest card you can get. If for nothing else than shortening the load time when you're flipping through the gallery. I have about 700 pics on my phone and a fast card makes a big difference in the loading time...
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I'll be using the 16gb Class 6 that is currently in my EVO 4G
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Any one know if the evo3d is Microsdhc host device or standard microSD enabled device/readers
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its sdhc...anything over 4GB is sdhc..so yes everything has to be sdhc at this point...ill prolly use my 16 from the evo on the 3VO till I find a good deal..but 60 for a card isnt bad I just feel like it should be hitting like 30-40 for one in a month or two with how they have been dropping lately
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Being a lowly teenager with no job (Best Buy won't call back, even though I'm more qualified than most of their sales reps), most, if not all, of my current income is coming from mowing lawns. I can get around 30-40 a week for now. As the summer progresses, I'll have a decent stockpile of money with which I intend on getting one of these SDHC cards. I'm going to get at least a 16GB, as the 8GB I have in my current Intercept isn't great for music. But if I'm really impatient, should I get a class 6, or just jump straight to 10?
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But if I'm really impatient, should I get a class 6, or just jump straight to 10?
Class 6. I guess I am in the small niche of users who does not use their phone as their main device for everything. If I want high quality pictures, I'll use my SLR. If I want high quality movies, I'll use my HD camcorder. I can't imagine transferring GB of data back and forth between my computer and phone. And even then, being in that big of a rush that I can't walk away for ten minutes and come back when it is finished.

Price difference between a Class 4/6 compared to a 10 is a little insane to be considering this for a phone.
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Being a lowly teenager with no job (Best Buy won't call back, even though I'm more qualified than most of their sales reps), most, if not all, of my current income is coming from mowing lawns. I can get around 30-40 a week for now. As the summer progresses, I'll have a decent stockpile of money with which I intend on getting one of these SDHC cards. I'm going to get at least a 16GB, as the 8GB I have in my current Intercept isn't great for music. But if I'm really impatient, should I get a class 6, or just jump straight to 10?
As a teenager with more time than money, this is a wonderful opportunity for you to really exercise what it means to do a cost-benefit analysis.

I'd think about what the differences in SD classes really means in terms of speed, what benefits/limitations each speed means, and whether $$$ is worth whatever those additional benefits are.

You'll find that one of the big limitations that exists with respect to speed is video recording; the card needs to be able to write data as fast or faster than the video is being generated. Fortunately, this is easy to figure out -- because video has a characteristic called the "bitrate" or how much data a video takes up per second of time. Though we don't have the Evo 3D yet to know the precise bitrate it records at, I bet you could find some video samples from its sister, the Sensation and determine the bitrate of a 1080p video from it.

Then you'll know the minimum card class you need and can go from there in terms of figuring out cost/benefit.

You should also let us know what you find
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Price difference between a Class 4/6 compared to a 10 is a little insane to be considering this for a phone.
I was just looking at this on Newegg. For a 16 GB micro-SDHC, most class 6 are $25-$30. Class 10 is typically $10 more -- i.e. $35-$40, but there are a couple for under $30, including a PNY branded one.

(I agree it's not necessary to go with a class 10, I'm just noting that the price difference doesn't seem as bad as I'd expected.)

Sadly, I'm wondering if there's any chance it takes micro-SDXC cards for whenever those become available. 32GB is almost a little small if I wanted it to house my music collection and a few movies.....
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Sadly, I'm wondering if there's any chance it takes micro-SDXC cards for whenever those become available. 32GB is almost a little small if I wanted it to house my music collection and a few movies.....
I agree big time. The only problem is that even if they released the microSDXC's (64GB and up) last I heard is that they are not compatible with the current technology. Allegedly the current phones hardware cannot handle the transfer speeds, interfacing technology, and file system (software issue). Of course this could all change and someone might find a way to retrofit them, but it sounds pretty set in stone. "SDXC memory cards must only [be used] with SDXC devices". The microSDXC's are still a little ways out I'm guessing since they are not readily available and hardware manufacturers will have to change their process and products to support it (who knows, maybe they are already available in Japan).
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I was just looking at this on Newegg. For a 16 GB micro-SDHC, most class 6 are $25-$30. Class 10 is typically $10 more -- i.e. $35-$40, but there are a couple for under $30, including a PNY branded one.

(I agree it's not necessary to go with a class 10, I'm just noting that the price difference doesn't seem as bad as I'd expected.)

Sadly, I'm wondering if there's any chance it takes micro-SDXC cards for whenever those become available. 32GB is almost a little small if I wanted it to house my music collection and a few movies.....
Not at my desktop ATM, but if I remember right, one of the 3D movies I have on my computer is about 1.5 GB (I backed up my Bluray version and converted it to .mpg file, side-by-side, for 960x540 resolution). I don't really listen to much of my music from my phone, so I'll primarily use the storage for movies.

That being said, the reason I went with class 10 is so I would have to wait over night to transfer files to my phone. The difference will be (for that one movie) waiting ~ 2.5 minutes on a class 10 (1.5GB * 1024 MB/GB / (10 MB/s*60 s/min)) instead of 12.8 minutes on a class 2 (1.5GB * 1024 MB/GB / (2 MB/s*60 s/min)) to get that on the SD card.

So maybe it costs some more to have the class 10, but when you want to watch a movie on the way to visit your girlfriend's parents, and she's nagging you to hurry up, 10 minutes faster may be worth the premium
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i just bought a 32GB class 4 micro sd card at frys for $50. im going to use it on my EVO3D and was wondering if it would be possible to move the Green Hornet movie from the card the phone comes with to my new card?? i was also wondering if anybody knows how good these 32GB cards are? the brand is patriot.never used one before. is there really a big diference between a class 2 and a class 4?
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i just bought a 32GB class 4 micro sd card at frys for $50. im going to use it on my EVO3D and was wondering if it would be possible to move the Green Hornet movie from the card the phone comes with to my new card?? i was also wondering if anybody knows how good these 32GB cards are? the brand is patriot.never used one before. is there really a big diference between a class 2 and a class 4?
I'm currently using some Patriot RAM and a memory stick and I haven't had issues with them as of yet. I haven't used a microSD from them though.
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i just bought a 32GB class 4 micro sd card at frys for $50. im going to use it on my EVO3D and was wondering if it would be possible to move the Green Hornet movie from the card the phone comes with to my new card?? i was also wondering if anybody knows how good these 32GB cards are? the brand is patriot.never used one before. is there really a big diference between a class 2 and a class 4?
I have several Patriot micro SD cards that were purchased from Fry's Electronics. They work just fine in my Droid X, Nook Color, and Xoom tablet.
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I agree big time. The only problem is that even if they released the microSDXC's (64GB and up) last I heard is that they are not compatible with the current technology. Allegedly the current phones hardware cannot handle the transfer speeds, interfacing technology, and file system (software issue). Of course this could all change and someone might find a way to retrofit them, but it sounds pretty set in stone. "SDXC memory cards must only [be used] with SDXC devices". The microSDXC's are still a little ways out I'm guessing since they are not readily available and hardware manufacturers will have to change their process and products to support it (who knows, maybe they are already available in Japan).
I was reading somewhere that the technology with the XC card allows up to 2TB, is this true? This would be awesome, but that's quite the leap from 32GB.

Some may argue that you would never need that much space in the first place, but there are endless possibilities, especially with Blue-Ray the amount of space movies, games, music and so forth take up (If/when it is possible to have that much space on a MicroSD card, it would allow you to keep everything with you at all times. Backups of files, other doucments and so on).
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I was reading somewhere that the technology with the XC card allows up to 2TB, is this true? This would be awesome, but that's quite the leap from 32GB.

Some may argue that you would never need that much space in the first place, but there are endless possibilities, especially with Blue-Ray the amount of space movies, games, music and so forth take up (If/when it is possible to have that much space on a MicroSD card, it would allow you to keep everything with you at all times. Backups of files, other doucments and so on).
I also remember back when people thought that 1GB would never be used on a home computer. Now 1TB is cutting it close for most techy types, and petabytes are just around the corner.
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Folks you need to think in terms of bit rate (or byte rate if that is easier).

"professional' has nothing to do with it; if you use a camera with a high density sensor and you intend to take a large number of pictures per second (think 10 frames per second; such as sport sequence) then the amount of data you need to move to the card can be rather high (btw that's why a lot of cameras can burst but not sustain a high frame rate; because the internal buffer is very fast; but the external memory is slow (or the ability to move the data to the external card; so a faster card does not always help here)
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For the evo3d we are talking about marginal number of pixel and bit rate. A typical 1080p web stream is around 4mb/s-6mb/s (blu-ray which tends to be very high quality is 23mb/s to 40mb/s (40 is max per specification). A home transencoding using h.264 would be around 7mb/s dependent on quality setting.
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A class 6 card is suppose to have a min write speed of 6MB/s. This is suppose to be the min write speed regardless of fragmentation (i.e, new a true class 6 card will likely perform much better). Read speed is typically better but should be no worse (naturally many class x cards do not meet class x specification). 6MB/s is 48mb/s or plenty for the very highest blue ray bit rate.
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In reality a class 4 card is probably fine for videos (32mb/s). I usually use quality/reliability/price as my selection factor and reject cards that have been shown to not meet their class standard.
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There is absolutely no harm in getting a faster card as long as it is reliable and you don't mind spending the extra $$$. However, usually the top tier (top class cards) will require a premium price.
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Btw if you are using a camera that has a high burst speed than that might be motivation for a faster card

The sports photographers go crazy for high speed cards and many tests can be found on the web. Here is a typical example that shows how some different cards behave

Nikon D7000 RAW Burst Test

(note the above test are for sdhc cards; not micro sdhc cards; after all it is a camera )
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Note photography is much much more demanding on cards than the evo3d will be with regards to bit/s and you simply do not need any of the high end cards listed in the above link. I merely provided it as a form of raw data.
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And yea a class 10 card is absolutely not required for the evo3d.
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It depends how you use the card. I have a transformer and I filled a 16GB card with movies. They aren't super high encoding (around 2mb/s which is plenty for my viewing pleasure) but each movie is still around 1.5GB; so a set of 8 or 9 filled up my 16GB card.
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Naturally the folks who feel higher is better might require 8mb/s or 12mb/s so a 32GB card will almost be mandatory (beware some software (movie players) on android have problems with files over 2GB or 4GB (what were they thinking when they used an int or unsigned int).
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I forget but I think 4GB is the largest fat32 will support so you might need to use a different file format for those 40mb/s movies. Not sure if evo 3d will support ext2 or ext3 or ntfs. Might want to check into that before you start creating those high bit rate encodings.

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I was reading somewhere that the technology with the XC card allows up to 2TB, is this true? This would be awesome, but that's quite the leap from 32GB.

Some may argue that you would never need that much space in the first place, but there are endless possibilities, especially with Blue-Ray the amount of space movies, games, music and so forth take up (If/when it is possible to have that much space on a MicroSD card, it would allow you to keep everything with you at all times. Backups of files, other doucments and so on).
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I was reading somewhere that the technology with the XC card allows up to 2TB, is this true? This would be awesome, but that's quite the leap from 32GB.

Silly rabbit, they won't go from 32GB to 2TB right away. Just like how they have gradually gotten to 32GB finally being on the market they are going to slowly introduce new cards. The market is cornered and they have us right where they want us. Why give us what we want right away when they can charge us exorbitant amounts of money all along the way. I exaggerate a bit, but it literally is borderline a black market. 64GB MicroSD will probably be the next step, though they have made 48GB SD cards for cameras.

These are just mock ups, but it sure is fun to imagine
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This is a feature of andriod. 2.x does have host device; but 3+ current require MTP (think icecream). Google has decent technical reasons for MTP but it is a PIA (esp with linux) and I wish they stuck with host (I have a transformer which has 3x and requires MTP). Windows 7 has built in support for MTP; but haven't tried to use it yet.

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Ummm... media transport protocol?

PIA, aka PITA - that one I got.

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So wait, will a class 6 card be good enough for doing anything and everything possible on the Evo 3D? Would a class 4 do everything too? I know speeds are different, but I just need one that is fast enough to get the job done without any problems.
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So wait, will a class 6 card be good enough for doing anything and everything possible on the Evo 3D? Would a class 4 do everything too? I know speeds are different, but I just need one that is fast enough to get the job done without any problems.
The moral of the story here is that you wouldn't need better than a class 6.

Where a class 10 becomes useful is transferring files to/from a computer.

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Not sure there is a question here; but yea MTP is media transport protocol and PTIA (pin in the ass); but I always use PIA for some reason - probably brain defect.
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Basically MTP allows both devices access the card; while with host interface if the comptuer modifies the card at the same time the device is modifying the card there can be corruption.
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With some of the newer interfaces for andriod 3.0 and how tablets are used I can see how this might be a problem; though in all honesty for the way I use the device it isn't. Anyways change seems to frequently happen for the sake of change; I dreading my upgrade to z68/hd3000 which requires newer linux kernel (I use ubuntu) and that will force the new interfaces on me (which imho are a disaster).

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PIA, aka PITA - that one I got.

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I started with a question, and it bugged me so much I searched to see if I'd heard of it or not.

Yes - hate change for the sake of change.

WifelyMon gets confused by the whole umount thing without notes. In our case, decided FTP via wifi was good enough, and that was that.

I guess that for some subset of users, MTP will save them the confusion. If not, then this is change for the sake of change. And if there's anything I hate, it's when they get Windows-centric, then add something on for Mac users like they did a favor, then leave the Linux users twisting while others tell them to get a horse ... er, Windows, I mean Windows. What we have now is OS agnostic. If they can improve it, fine. I've not used any MTP stuff, so ... I dunno.
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Folks you need to think in terms of bit rate (or byte rate if that is easier).

"professional' has nothing to do with it; if you use a camera with a high density sensor and you intend to take a large number of pictures per second (think 10 frames per second; such as sport sequence) then the amount of data you need to move to the card can be rather high (btw that's why a lot of cameras can burst but not sustain a high frame rate; because the internal buffer is very fast; but the external memory is slow (or the ability to move the data to the external card; so a faster card does not always help here)
not sure when the last time any of my professional photographer friends weren't using burst modes? So not quite sure where you got that from. We don't wind up with 1000 pictures in an hour at a motocross race taking one picture every 5 seconds.

Just checked my files on my camera. Each one comes in at ~6MB per file.
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Anyone have opinions on companies regarding micro SD cards: Lexar, Patriot, SanDisk...
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I've always liked SanDisk, as they were the original ones to make the SD cards. I've heard both Lexar and Kingston are good (I haven't had a chance to try Kingston, but that is the 32GB SDC10 I just ordered). From what I've seen in this thread so far Patriot seems to be decent as well.

What I did was search for cards on Amazon and read the reviews about them. Some of the class 6/10 don't have write speeds they suggest, so you'll really just have to look around to see what to get.
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I own multiples of each and haven't had any issues with them. Best bet is to read the review on Newegg or Amazon before you make your purchase. Some people swear by one and others will curse it.
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It depends how you use the card. I have a transformer and I filled a 16GB card with movies. They aren't super high encoding (around 2mb/s which is plenty for my viewing pleasure) but each movie is still around 1.5GB; so a set of 8 or 9 filled up my 16GB card.
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I forget but I think 4GB is the largest fat32 will support so you might need to use a different file format for those 40mb/s movies. Not sure if evo 3d will support ext2 or ext3 or ntfs. Might want to check into that before you start creating those high bit rate encodings.
I understand the E3D may not be able to handle things like that, I was just suggesting that you use a 2TB card as a USB backup for things like that in the future, and not just for immidiate use.
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Silly rabbit, they won't go from 32GB to 2TB right away. Just like how they have gradually gotten to 32GB finally being on the market they are going to slowly introduce new cards. The market is cornered and they have us right where they want us. Why give us what we want right away when they can charge us exorbitant amounts of money all along the way. I exaggerate a bit, but it literally is borderline a black market. 64GB MicroSD will probably be the next step, though they have made 48GB SD cards for cameras.

These are just mock ups, but it sure is fun to imagine
2TB on a mobile device would be insane...I need it! It's amazing where technology is going. 2TB of information on something so small is just crazy.
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The one thing that will be truely annoying is if google does not re-add host support by icecream; then when you upgrade your device to icecream all of a suddent here will be a major interface change when connecting to the computer.
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Lots of if - I think google really wants MTP; but folks are not at all happy with it. I am fairly sure that evo3d will upgrade to ice cream and I think the current timeline is probably q1 or q2 2012 but like all software projects delays are not uncommon

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Yes - hate change for the sake of change.

WifelyMon gets confused by the whole umount thing without notes. In our case, decided FTP via wifi was good enough, and that was that.

I guess that for some subset of users, MTP will save them the confusion. If not, then this is change for the sake of change. And if there's anything I hate, it's when they get Windows-centric, then add something on for Mac users like they did a favor, then leave the Linux users twisting while others tell them to get a horse ... er, Windows, I mean Windows. What we have now is OS agnostic. If they can improve it, fine. I've not used any MTP stuff, so ... I dunno.
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Can you guys give me some recommendations on where i can shop for reasonably priced 32 gb Micro SD cards. was looking on amazon and it seems like i giant crap shoot as far as trusted sellers go. It is kind of scaring me away from continuing to look there. I have looked at SanDisk but they are just so expensive on their official site.

what would really be most preferred is a combo pack of a 32 gb micro sd card with an adapter for the PC on it.

I really want to be able to stop carrying my ipod classic around with me and just use my 3VO as my primary music player.
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Can you guys give me some recommendations on where i can shop for reasonably priced 32 gb Micro SD cards. was looking on amazon and it seems like i giant crap shoot as far as trusted sellers go. It is kind of scaring me away from continuing to look there. I have looked at SanDisk but they are just so expensive on their official site.

what would really be most preferred is a combo pack of a 32 gb micro sd card with an adapter for the PC on it.

I really want to be able to stop carrying my ipod classic around with me and just use my 3VO as my primary music player.
I ordered this last week and to test it I uploaded all 95 episodes of Kenshin (20gb) to it from my computer. It took about an hour, or about ~5.5mb/s of sustained transfer rate.

Amazon.com: Sandisk 32GB MicroSDHC Micro SD Card with MicroSD to SD adapter & Mobilemate Reader: Electronics
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