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Old June 26th, 2011, 12:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Evo 3D is such a camera-centric phone that IMO it deserve a very robust analysis of its cameras. This post will focus on image quality for 2D photos.

Let's start off with some photo comparisons with the predecessor, the Evo 4G. In the following images, the top picture is from the E3D, and the bottom picture is from the E4G. The inset picture is a direct crop from the original photo, so you can see the quality at native resolution.

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Both cameras were set to their max resolutions (5mp for the E3D and 8mp for the E4G). All settings within the camera app were set to the same values. Photos were taken from a fixed position with E3D first, followed by E4G. I tried my best to frame the shot as similarly as possible to minimize metering variations. The first two comparisons were shot under direct sunlight on a 'mostly cloudy' day. The last set was shot under the shade of a tree.



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In this first set, you can see that the E3D got the colors right. E4G went crazy in the auto-white-balance mode and made things way too yellow. I was unable to force the white balance to give me something more natural. Looking at the insets, there is a lot more noise in the E4G pictures (note all the reddish spots in the shadows), and the leaves do not look as sharp. This is directly due to the 8mp being overkill for the resolving power of the lens.



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One again, E3D wins this one. The maple leaves are in sharp focus, and the color tones of the soil and rocks in the background are much more representative of the actual scene. I made 3 attempts to take a sharp photo with the E4G, and what you're seeing was the best of the three. The Evo had a very hard time focusing on the thin maple leaves. So while this comparison might not seem fair since the E4G shot isn't in focus, there's something to be said for the camera's inability to focus correctly. Who cares how good the sensor is if the camera can't focus light on it? And looking at the insets, it's once again clear that the 8mp is doing nothing but magnifying the imperfection.



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For the final shot, I chose something in the shade and less colorful for some contrast comparison. The E3D appears to have higher contrast, though I tend to prefer the color temperature of the E4G shot. However, if you look at the insets, the E3D image is clearly more sharp. It seems that again, the E4G has problems getting the focus right. For web viewing where you get to resize the photos way down (like I did for these images), that slight blur is not so noticeable. But clearly the E3D wins in clarity and contrast.

So in broad daylight and daytime shade, the Evo 3D cameras win hands-down in my book. Coming up: more comparisons under low light with and without flash, and we'll see which camera takes the cake.

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Here are the results of the low-light comparisons. Overall, the E4G wins this round with better color reproduction, despite being much grainier and less sharp. E3D has a much more powerful flash but tends to tint the photos blue as a result.

Test set 4:


In this test, the box of toys are under a 40W incandescent fan light, which is pretty dim for indoor photography. I set ISO and white balance to auto for both cameras. Color reproduction goes to the E4G, hands down. E3D had a hard time figuring out how to white balance the tungsten lighting, but looking at the insets, the E3D shows less noise than the E4G. From a post-processing perspective, the E3D has the most potential, since it's much easier to color-correct than to remove noise. Still, if I were to pick a favorite without any touch-up, I'd pick E4G here. Note, I did also try the preset Incandescent white balance setting, but it did not look right at all. This was true for both phones.



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In this set, we have even dimmer conditions than before. The room is lit by a 40W-equivalent CFL lamp, which is pretty far away from the subject. E3D once again proves it takes sharper pictures, judging by the insets. And unlike the previous test set, the E3D gets the colors correct. E4G still has a hard time focusing, and the contrast is not as good as E3D. Noise is very evident in the E4G image, especially in the glass vase.



Test set 6:


This final comparison tested the flash capabilities of the phone. The clear winner was the E4G. E3D seems to have a much more powerful flash, but the final photo is tinted blue and overexposed. I tried many variations to improve the shot but was unable to. E4G had good contrast and color, albeit noisy, as usual. Flash actually improved color tones when compared to test set 5. Clear winner here is the E4G.

The results of these low-light tests surprised me; I went into these thinking the E3D was the shoo-in winner. Not so. However, I've seen my E3D perform better than this, and for sure, my E4G has produced some pretty horrendous flash shots. But in these controlled tests, the E4G came out on top for low-light. Definitely worthwhile to do more tests, but it's certain that low-light photography is hit or miss sometimes, even with dSLRs.
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Very Nicely Done. Thanks Novox77
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Excellent post. Personally I haven't done much out door testing but just last night I was doing a lot of low light testing and its not even close, the 3vo destroyed the evo. Anyway, in every conceivable low light condition the 3vo came out ahead. Wish I could post pictures but I don't have my laptop with me.
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Nice write-up. Thank you. Looking forward to more.
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Darn you Novox77...... All of us phandroid denziens were satisfied with off the cuff subjective statements about how the 3Vo isn't as good as the Og Evo in certain aspects, and then you had to go all scientific method and objective and prove us all wrong.
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The colors of the 3D are better for sure but you got softer shots with the 4G because they are all out of focus, all of them. Get them in focus and they are probably just as sharp. I cant remember if you can tap the screen to focus the 4G but for whatever reason, yours are out of focus. You also shot the pink plant with a wider angle then you did with the 3D looks like.
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The colors of the 3D are better for sure but you got softer shots with the 4G because they are all out of focus, all of them. Get them in focus and they are probably just as sharp. I cant remember if you can tap the screen to focus the 4G but for whatever reason, yours are out of focus. You also shot the pink plant with a wider angle then you did with the 3D looks like.
Not a wider angle. I'm just centered more to the left on the E4G. Look at the rocks near the bottom of the screen and then the right edge of the maple leaves. If you're thinking I'm wider by looking at the inset, it's because the 8mp inset will appear larger than 5mp by definition.

Yup, I tapped the screen to focus on the E4G. And I also tried letting it pick the focus point. Believe me, I tried several times to get the E4G to focus properly, and I picked the sharpest version for the comparison pics in the OP. The camera doesn't focus well, and obviously that impacts image quality. On occasion, I have gotten sharper pics from my E4G, but the fact that it's such a chore means it's an inferior camera system.

And sharpness is only one of many factors. Even if we call sharpness a draw, the E3D wins on contrast, color balance, saturation, and noise level, and it does all this with fewer megapixels.
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Not a wider angle. I'm just centered more to the left on the E4G. Look at the rocks near the bottom of the screen and then the right edge of the maple leaves. If you're thinking I'm wider by looking at the inset, it's because the 8mp inset will appear larger than 5mp by definition.

Yup, I tapped the screen to focus on the E4G. And I also tried letting it pick the focus point. Believe me, I tried several times to get the E4G to focus properly, and I picked the sharpest version for the comparison pics in the OP. The camera doesn't focus well, and obviously that impacts image quality. On occasion, I have gotten sharper pics from my E4G, but the fact that it's such a chore means it's an inferior camera system.

And sharpness is only one of many factors. Even if we call sharpness a draw, the E3D wins on contrast, color balance, saturation, and noise level, and it does all this with fewer megapixels.
Yea, the 4G did have problems focusing correctly if I remember. Hardly used it at all since it was so poor. Everything looks better on the 3D and the pics on my Sensation rival my Canon point and shoot. HTC has gotten better at their cameras.
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Low-light and flash tests are in. See the post below the OP. And surprisingly, the E4G performed better in my tests. Didn't expect that.
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Very nice work. Any word yet on what specific OmniVision (I assume) sensor is in the Evo 3D?
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Great thread. If you have more tests planned I would love to see them. These have been very helpful in resolving some of my camera fears.
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Great comparison. Mine doesn't take that great of pictures. I have noticed though that E3d will dim the pictures after they're taken so it's a little misleading when youre taking the shots since it's so much brighter on the screen before hand. Any idea how to fix this?
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Great comparison. Mine doesn't take that great of pictures. I have noticed though that E3d will dim the pictures after they're taken so it's a little misleading when youre taking the shots since it's so much brighter on the screen before hand. Any idea how to fix this?
In the settings, you can change the exposure level. I'd go with +1 for now and see if that's enough. In the camera app, press your built-in "MENU" button and tap "Image Adjustments." First slider is exposure.
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Has anyone used this camera in bright sunlight? I get a green tint on everything in direct sunlight. Anywhere, else the pictures are beautiful. Can anyone verify this?
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Has anyone used this camera in bright sunlight? I get a green tint on everything in direct sunlight. Anywhere, else the pictures are beautiful. Can anyone verify this?
can you post a sample pic?
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In the settings, you can change the exposure level. I'd go with +1 for now and see if that's enough. In the camera app, press your built-in "MENU" button and tap "Image Adjustments." First slider is exposure.
It seems I have to turn it way up but then some images becomes too washed out.
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Great comparison. Mine doesn't take that great of pictures. I have noticed though that E3d will dim the pictures after they're taken so it's a little misleading when youre taking the shots since it's so much brighter on the screen before hand. Any idea how to fix this?

For whatever reason, when viewing 2D pictures on the E3D, the screen brightness adjusts to whatever screen brightness you have the phone set to. So, if you are like me, and have your screen set to >20% brightness, all your 2D pictures will look dark.

When taking and viewing 3D pictures, the brightness of the screen adjusts to show you a true representation of the pictures you have taken. With 2D pictures, it only shows you a true representation when you are taking a picture.

Similar to how the 3D screen kicks on a second after you switch to a picture in the gallery, the phone will show you the actual exposure of the 2D picture for a split second before the set screen brightness takes over.

It would appear that to view a true representation of the exposure level of the photos you have taken, the phone's brightness setting needs to be set to around 90% (approximately).
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For whatever reason, when viewing 2D pictures on the E3D, the screen brightness adjusts to whatever screen brightness you have the phone set to. So, if you are like me, and have your screen set to >20% brightness, all your 2D pictures will look dark.

When taking and viewing 3D pictures, the brightness of the screen adjusts to show you a true representation of the pictures you have taken. With 2D pictures, it only shows you a true representation when you are taking a picture.

Similar to how the 3D screen kicks on a second after you switch to a picture in the gallery, the phone will show you the actual exposure of the 2D picture for a split second before the set screen brightness takes over.

It would appear that to view a true representation of the exposure level of the photos you have taken, the phone's brightness setting needs to be set to around 90% (approximately).
Youre right! I adjusted my brightness all the way up and doesn't dim any more. Man that was confusing. Thanks for the info. That is much better!
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Youre right! I adjusted my brightness all the way up and doesn't dim any more. Man that was confusing. Thanks for the info. That is much better!
Sure thing. I would definitely say it's a bug within their camera software; if for no other reason that brightness automatically changes from camera to 3D photos to 2D photos.
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I am in the dissenting camp! My pics from the 3D compared to the 4G are horrible. The 3D has a yellowish/greenish tint when shooting in blasting sunlight. The 4G does a LOT better in direct sunlight. I will admit that the 3D does better in low light but they are both horrible. I expect a camera phone to be able to perform in direct sunlight. I don't expect it to perform in low light. I will likely be returning my 3D because of this. I have done a lot of side by side comparisons and the 4G kicks the 3Ds ass. I will admit that the 3D is more consistent. But it is consistent crap. Whereas the 4G mostly nails the pic in good light but sometimes it blows it. The 3D looks like pics from cellphones from years ago. I just can't go backward that far. Maybe something is wrong with my phone...
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Has anyone used this camera in bright sunlight? I get a green tint on everything in direct sunlight. Anywhere, else the pictures are beautiful. Can anyone verify this?
Yep...I sure can. Not only is it greenish/yellowish, but the resolution or the quality of the resolution is horrible. I have a 20 inch monitor at home and if I put a full res pic off of the 3D onto it all it takes is one click of the mouse wheel to zoom in and everything goes into that "fake look smear"...it doesn't pixalate but it just kind of looks fake with horrible highlights. I would assume this is caused by the jpeg compression in the camera...it just isn't that good. I look at pics from my 4G right next to the 3D and it is night and day...

Let me see if I can post pics here....

The United 757 was taken with the 4G. Perfect clarity...perfect color...perfect highlights. Now I have to upload pics from the 3D...I thought I had already done this...lol...the other 3 were taken with the 3D in absolutely blasting Texas sunlight. It is almost like a filter is on the camera and you can see the greenish tint in the pics...
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Yep...I sure can. Not only is it greenish/yellowish, but the resolution or the quality of the resolution is horrible. I have a 20 inch monitor at home and if I put a full res pic off of the 3D onto it all it takes is one click of the mouse wheel to zoom in and everything goes into that "fake look smear"...it doesn't pixalate but it just kind of looks fake with horrible highlights. I would assume this is caused by the jpeg compression in the camera...it just isn't that good. I look at pics from my 4G right next to the 3D and it is night and day...

Let me see if I can post pics here....

The United 757 was taken with the 4G. Perfect clarity...perfect color...perfect highlights. Now I have to upload pics from the 3D...I thought I had already done this...lol...the other 3 were taken with the 3D in absolutely blasting Texas sunlight. It is almost like a filter is on the camera and you can see the greenish tint in the pics...
You forgot to invite us to the party!!! lol. Those pics arent bad except for the close up one. Pretty grainy. Overall the images taken by the E3d seems not to be as sharp and slightly dim even in outdoors.
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Sure thing. I would definitely say it's a bug within their camera software; if for no other reason that brightness automatically changes from camera to 3D photos to 2D photos.
Unfortunately the Vignette camera app will do the same so I think anytime the camera is activated regardless of which software it will do this.
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I am in the dissenting camp! My pics from the 3D compared to the 4G are horrible. The 3D has a yellowish/greenish tint when shooting in blasting sunlight. The 4G does a LOT better in direct sunlight. I will admit that the 3D does better in low light but they are both horrible. I expect a camera phone to be able to perform in direct sunlight. I don't expect it to perform in low light. I will likely be returning my 3D because of this. I have done a lot of side by side comparisons and the 4G kicks the 3Ds ass. I will admit that the 3D is more consistent. But it is consistent crap. Whereas the 4G mostly nails the pic in good light but sometimes it blows it. The 3D looks like pics from cellphones from years ago. I just can't go backward that far. Maybe something is wrong with my phone...
Nothing wrong with your phone. I feel exacty the dame way. The EVO
Shift's 5mg camera is by far better and much sharper than the 3d's - my wife has one. I have taken at least 60 pics and not one leaves me optimistic. They all seem to be not very sharp and dark, kind of lack color too. That being said the video seems prettyh good and the 3D capabilities offset the downgrade in 2D camera.
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DSLRs are capable of shooting "raw"...meaning they will record each pixel exactly as the camera sees it. Each pixel is "native". A .jpeg image is compressed....in short, the camera actually "edits" the picture into what it "thinks" you are trying to capture. Pixels become intertwined and are not native...they actually get "smeared" together. What does this processing/editing is the jpeg engine within the camera. I believe that is what is failing us here...a poor jpeg engine.

Anyway, I can take picture off of my 4G and put it onto my computer and edit it into a truly printable photograph worth framing. The pictures from my 3D do not have enough quality to begin with...and once you start editing a poor picture, it usually gets worse.

On a related note, read about the camera they are putting into the My Touch 4G. Would be nice if HTC spreads this across all future lines of their phones....assuming the actual camera bits work well.
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I would agree that the green tint problem is likely a camera post-process problem for some subset of Evo3Ds. The focus problem could be a hardware issue. My Evo 4G appears to suffer from it (all E4G photos in my OPs are out of focus).

This morning, I tried to reproduce the green tint problem you guys have referenced but couldn't. So I think it's only affecting some percentage of E3D owners. Here are three pics I took under direct sunlight:



The flipflop shot looked fine. Red is slightly pink, but that may be due to a slight over exposure. In the street shot, the grass looks a little saturated. In the flower shot, the flowers are washed out a bit, but that's due to the high contrast range (poor choice of subject in direct sunlight).

Focus was fine. I don't see any green blotchy tinting. If the camera is important to you (as it is to me), I would definitely try an exchange to see if you can get one that takes better pics.
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Focus was fine. I don't see any green blotchy tinting. If the camera is important to you (as it is to me), I would definitely try an exchange to see if you can get one that takes better pics.
Yep, I will probably do that to see if that will fix it. A lot of folks complained about the 4G camera. I thought it did quite well as long as there was plenty of light. Like I said, you are never going to get good low light performance out of a camera phone...although some will perform better than others. It is the pics in good light that should shine. Anyway, like you said, the 2D picture shooting is very important to me. I am an amateur photographer and it is awfully nice to always have a camera in your pocket that doubles as a phone...

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I have no problem with the resolution of the camera, I think it does very well. It's just the green problem that makes me crazy. Indoors and shaded pictures are outstanding. Oh, and did I mention the macro capabilities are amazing. I will include some examples here. The flower is yellow. The other shots are dirt, not grass, this is Arizona...
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I have no problem with the resolution of the camera, I think it does very well. It's just the green problem that makes me crazy. Indoors and shaded pictures are outstanding. Oh, and did I mention the macro capabilities are amazing. I will include some examples here. The flower is yellow. The other shots are dirt, not grass, this is Arizona...
Wow.... that is really green. Definitely a defect.
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I'm trying to figure out if its hardware or software. That's why I keep asking people to shoot a few shots in bright sunlight to see how many others have this issue. The only other person I know also has this going on.
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I have to add to the Green issue! It seems like its starting to condense down to those taking shots in extreme light which is throwing off something in some 3Ds (non-tech answer here lol)

Hers is my contribution - granted after i saw this pic i brought the phone back to RS and got a brand new one only to see the reps 3D was also showing green right off the display w.o even taking a pic - a yellow bag on the counter was looking green just like the yellow flower pic above - very strange issues here -

Anyway havent really seen much green on my 2nd 3D but again havent had the chance to take good shots yet but will def be doing so tomorrow the 4th - will post back!

Also here is the cross reference link to the other forums discussing this very issue for anyone following, one user on the 3rd page has some serious green in his beach shots as well (look at the sand!!)

My personal theory is this is something you should be able spot w.o even having to take a pic as my first 3D had it on the display right away than auto-focused and it went away only to come back after the shot was taken, also the 3D camera was effected as well with low light 3D shots esp in the background!!!

http://forum.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=1056434&posted=1#post1056434
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Please see samples at - EVO 3D optics really that subpar?
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Also here is the cross reference link to the other forums discussing this very issue for anyone following, one user on the 3rd page has some serious green in his beach shots as well (look at the sand!!)
Not sure if saw a few posts up?

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Another issue with the camera that was discovered in a youtube review is taking pictures of black objects up very close(I dont know if flash on/off matters) locks up the camera app. Is anyone else able to produce this issue?
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Here is a better response from HTC - They are now admitting they can replicate the problem and are working on it - possible OTA ...making progress! I think now on my 2nd Evo 3D (brand new replacement i am still getting a light green tint so this is def ongoing, ironically it only happens in certain conditions tho (which i am having a hard time pinpointing)

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The Green Hornet movie is currently unavailable. HTC is currently working to resolve the issue.
I have seen a number of other customers with the green tint in pictures on the phone. I have forwarded this issue to our research and engineering department and they are investigating the issue. I have also been able to replicate the issue on one of our test phones. This issue will also likely be resolved with an update. We appreciate your patience in this matter.
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Here are some shots taken with the Nov 2009 HTC Leo. It's mid 2011, and the camera on the 3D appears far worse. Settings were identical between the two (the HD2 was running stock Desire HD ROM and has a 5mp camera).

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3VO is blurrier, grainier, colors are wrong. The HD2 has worse optics than most phones, I hear. That puts the 3VO at the very bottom of the barrel here. What am I doing wrong?
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So here is an example of a phenomenal picture taken this evening, only this is a double edged sword, being the Evo 3D automatically decides how to take the picture based on the conditions i think that maybe the start of the problems

All my pictures tonight (minus attached) all of fireworks and night scenes all came out green-ish, AND new issue, video recording is also HIGHLY effected by the green - I am officially frustrated but amazed at how this phone can take one random great shot and leave the rest including video green tinted

**pic is a tad blurry bc i had it zoomed in half one on the meter, but the colors are spot on!**
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I have found that taking pictures of a moving object (like my dog) is pretty much impossible because of shutter lag. anyone else?
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YouTube - ‪2d video on EVO3D‬‏

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...has anyone else noticed the "Auto Enhance" option in the settings? It seems to be turned on by default.

Anyone have thoughts on whether this feature is actually useful or not?

Then, to make things more complicated there's actually a separate "Auto Enhance" feature in the HTC gallery app. It looks like it does auto levels (perhaps more).
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...has anyone else noticed the "Auto Enhance" option in the settings? It seems to be turned on by default.
It appears only in 2D mode. Based on my tests, I can't discern the difference between two shots where the only difference is that setting.

Others should test this too, especially those having camera issues.
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I'm trying to figure out if its hardware or software. That's why I keep asking people to shoot a few shots in bright sunlight to see how many others have this issue. The only other person I know also has this going on.
Saw`the green today for the first time. It was in daylight.
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I think it is the most prevalent in direct sunlight. I think it might be a metering issue(along with a poor jpeg engine). It is almost like the sensor overdoses on light and then goes into some sort of filter mode. Anyway, I am having a hard time believing this is a software issue that can be corrected by an update but I hope for everyone's sake it is. And for those that say, "This is a phone and not a camera!"....I hear ya but we have been living with much better camera phones and this is a step back in my opinion. Like the above poster mentioned, his 3 year old phone takes better pictures than the 3vo. My 4G takes better pictures than the 3vo.

Anyway, I will uncheck the "auto enhance" feature and then go take pictures in direct sunlight....
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As seen on Phandroid - HTC EVO 3D vs HTC EVO 4G 2D Camera Comparison [Forum Talk]
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Does that just repeat the information in the thread ?

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Does that just repeat the information in the thread ?
Yes, the phandroid article used this thread exclusively for its information. Us regulars aren't going to learn anything new from it, but for people who subscribe to phandroid news feeds, this might be the first time they've gotten this info.
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I dont know if anyone saw but HTC has recognized there is a problem by being able to replicate the problem on there end on a company 3D phone -

Engineers are looking into the problem and hopefully sooner than later we will have an OTA for that and other issues -

Interestingly enough it also effects the video camera in low light settings as well which is not a good thing either!
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