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Default Should I switch Back from EVO3d to EVO 4g ?

I loved my 4g, the loudness of the speakers was second only to the HTC TP2.

8MP camera.

LARGE text in all apps.


Now with my evo3d My loudness even with a gingerbread loudness booster from the app store makes no real difference and most importantly, I can't read the text no matter where on the phone I am due to the 960 x 580 screen resolution.

So, do I go back and get a 4G again OR with eventual rooting and or HTC Updates will the EVO 3d be worth keeping?

I have 15 days to my 30 days are up to decide.
Anybody in a similar situation?

AGAIN my MAIN issues:

Text too small phone wide

Loudness of speaker : Poor

Side by side test with a youtube test between an evo 3d vs EVO 4g the 4G wins hands down with loudness off the charts on the 4g compared to EVO 3d.

So keep it and wait for changes or swap back for the EVO 4g?

Thanks,

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swap back to the EVO 4G... .
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swap back to the EVO 4G... .

I guess the EVO 3d was not a worthy succesor to the 4G, I guess the dual core Ill miss the best, wish Sprint had a worthy 4G successor
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Keep the 3VO, it is very close to being permanently rooted (i.e. they have a temporary root already available and permanent root is next). I suggest trying to get used to the difference in loudness between the 3VO and Evo 4g. I often use earbuds, beats by dre headphones, or external speakers. I find the 3 MP difference in the camera somewhat sucky, but the 3D capability is a plus even though it is not autostereoscopic. I am looking forward to the day when I have my 3D tv in home and can watch home videos that I shot with my phone in 3D! Also, the longer and skinnier size of th 3VO compared to the Evo 4g makes it even more of a worthy successor to the Evo 4g in my opinion.
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I believe the loudness issue can be resolved (if you listen to the FM radio on the speaker it is really loud) which indicates the speaker can be amped up quite a bit once we have SU.

Text is something that will be something that can be also be resolved in a lot of different ways. What apps are you having problems with regarding small text?.


The camera is better than the Evo in most respects. While it is lower MP, the sensor is better, which improves overall quality and has much better results in side by side testing (including my own personal testing where I found the Evo has a lot of noise in pictures)
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If you just want louder sound and bigger text, switch back.

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I guess the EVO 3d was not a worthy succesor to the 4G, I guess the dual core Ill miss the best, wish Sprint had a worthy 4G successor
It is, it just doesn't match your particular requirements. Most people are okay w/ the 3vo's loudness, even though it's not as high as the 4G's. And most people are okay w/ the text size on the 3vo's screen, and it is technically an upgrade from the 4G, and again it just doesn't fit your particular need.

Check out the Galaxy SII when it lands on Sprint, that one has 800x480 resolution so you'll at least get the larger text, don't know about speaker volume though.
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I believe the loudness issue can be resolved (if you listen to the FM radio on the speaker it is really loud) which indicates the speaker can be amped up quite a bit once we have SU.

Text is something that will be something that can be also be resolved in a lot of different ways. What apps are you having problems with regarding small text?.


The camera is better than the Evo in most respects. While it is lower MP, the sensor is better, which improves overall quality and has much better results in side by side testing (including my own personal testing where I found the Evo has a lot of noise in pictures)


What is SU?
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If you just want louder sound and bigger text, switch back.



It is, it just doesn't match your particular requirements. Most people are okay w/ the 3vo's loudness, even though it's not as high as the 4G's. And most people are okay w/ the text size on the 3vo's screen, and it is technically an upgrade from the 4G, and again it just doesn't fit your particular need.

Check out the Galaxy SII when it lands on Sprint, that one has 800x480 resolution so you'll at least get the larger text, don't know about speaker volume though.

Well will the galaxy SII be out by July 24th?
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Well will the galaxy SII be out by July 24th?
Rumors were saying yes, that the Evo 3D was coming out on June 24th and the GSII is to follow a month later, on July 24th. But none of that is confirmed.

However, I'd say it is likely, since in 30 days, people can no longer return their 3vos and their current $125 port in credit is set to expire on July 23rd.
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I loved my 4g, the loudness of the speakers was second only to the HTC TP2.

8MP camera.

LARGE text in all apps.


Now with my evo3d My loudness even with a gingerbread loudness booster from the app store makes no real difference and most importantly, I can't read the text no matter where on the phone I am due to the 960 x 580 screen resolution.

So, do I go back and get a 4G again OR with eventual rooting and or HTC Updates will the EVO 3d be worth keeping?

I have 15 days to my 30 days are up to decide.
Anybody in a similar situation?

AGAIN my MAIN issues:

Text too small phone wide

Loudness of speaker : Poor

Side by side test with a youtube test between an evo 3d vs EVO 4g the 4G wins hands down with loudness off the charts on the 4g compared to EVO 3d.

So keep it and wait for changes or swap back for the EVO 4g?

Thanks,

Jeff

You know you can change the size of the text right? In your messages, just go under settings and select size. It starts on medium and you can make it larger or smaller. As far as sound, well, yeah EVO 4g is slightly louder. But that's a personal preference bug. Camera wise, I think it takes better pictures than the EVO 4g. The only thing I wish about my EVO 3d, and this is just not picking here, is that I wish it was as wide as the predecessor. Otherwise I personally feel it tops in all aspects.
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why do you need us to tell you which one when you have used both of them?

which one do you like better? Keep the one your more happy with.

you really need strangers to let you know which phone YOU like better.
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why do you need us to tell you which one when you have used both of them?

which one do you like better? Keep the one your more happy with.

you really need strangers to let you know which phone YOU like better.
People like to hear other people's opinions and rationales. A post just saying "pick the one you want", isn't helpful at all.
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I loved my 4g, the loudness of the speakers was second only to the HTC TP2.

8MP camera.

LARGE text in all apps.


Now with my evo3d My loudness even with a gingerbread loudness booster from the app store makes no real difference and most importantly, I can't read the text no matter where on the phone I am due to the 960 x 580 screen resolution.

So, do I go back and get a 4G again OR with eventual rooting and or HTC Updates will the EVO 3d be worth keeping?

I have 15 days to my 30 days are up to decide.
Anybody in a similar situation?

AGAIN my MAIN issues:

Text too small phone wide

Loudness of speaker : Poor

Side by side test with a youtube test between an evo 3d vs EVO 4g the 4G wins hands down with loudness off the charts on the 4g compared to EVO 3d.

So keep it and wait for changes or swap back for the EVO 4g?

Thanks,

Jeff

anyways to answer you question since you asked. I would keep the Evo3D. Its a better, faster, prettier display, fits better in the hands, better battery life, camera button, sense 3.0 and 3D is just a plus on top of that. I really enjoy the 3D videos. But even with out it, its still a great phone.

go to google and read up on megapixels. just cause a camera has more mega pixels does not mean its a better camera. the Evo3D takes much better pics than the Evo4G imo. My fiance has my old Evo4G and we have taken pics of the same thing at the same time and the Evo3D wins hands down everytime.

the thing i really enjoy on my 3d is a feature that i use to use on my TP2, when your on a call you flip the phone on its face and it turns the speaker on automatically. I use that all the time.

To answer you sound question, get the program Equalizer and it makes the sounds so much better once you adjust it.
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People like to hear other people's opinions and rationales. A post just saying "pick the one you want", isn't helpful at all.
im sorry but normally people ask for opinions when one of the products isnt out yet or they haven't gotten to try it yet. why do you need to hear other opinions when your an adult and can formulate them your own. its different if you dont have access to one of the products.
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A side debate isn't helping, doesn't matter which side, nothing personal. Opinions have been expressed, let's please let that go.

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i actually just reactived my 4g..the 3d wuz very fast , screen wuz very nice, 3D is nice but not necessary for me...but didnt like the slim size...hated the smaller keyboard when typing, print, icons ,taskbar all to small...i always said from day one with the Evo that it wuz a perfect size..I'll wait till something comes along the Evo 4G size
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I still have my EVO 4g and using the two side by side helps me see what an improvement the 3d really is. However, the original EVO is far from outdated. Still a worthy phone in todays world. You aren't missing all that much compared to the new stuff.

Played with an sgs ll finally as well. Did not excite me at all.
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Quite honestly, i went into the sprint store today to pick up the 3d, but after using it for about half an hour or so, i really found nothing about it more appealing than the original evo...Not that it was a bad phone or anything, it just didnt do anything for me ya know?

Sense 3.0 was pretty underwhelming and the 3d effect was pretty subpar. I cant help but feel that the evo 4g+ will be the true successor to our beloved Evo 4g.

All in all i was pretty disappointed since i have really really been looking forward to getting this phone. But ill be stickin with the original
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I dislike the smaller text on principles, though I can't honestly say it is a real problem. Same for the speaker volume.

I like the narrower size for holding purposes, dislike it for viewing purposes.

I really like the faster, smoother functioning and higher graphics resolution.

The 4G certainly ain't awful. I briefly investigated switching to verizon before unlimited data went away, and the best phones with 4G they had available were only slight improvement on the 4G when the 4G was a year old.

But I'm keeping my 3D.
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I loved my 4g, the loudness of the speakers was second only to the HTC TP2.

8MP camera.

LARGE text in all apps.


Now with my evo3d My loudness even with a gingerbread loudness booster from the app store makes no real difference and most importantly, I can't read the text no matter where on the phone I am due to the 960 x 580 screen resolution.

So, do I go back and get a 4G again OR with eventual rooting and or HTC Updates will the EVO 3d be worth keeping?

I have 15 days to my 30 days are up to decide.
Anybody in a similar situation?

AGAIN my MAIN issues:

Text too small phone wide

Loudness of speaker : Poor

Side by side test with a youtube test between an evo 3d vs EVO 4g the 4G wins hands down with loudness off the charts on the 4g compared to EVO 3d.

So keep it and wait for changes or swap back for the EVO 4g?

Thanks,

Jeff
It sounds like you answer your own question.
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I loved my 4g, the loudness of the speakers was second only to the HTC TP2.

8MP camera.

LARGE text in all apps.


Now with my evo3d My loudness even with a gingerbread loudness booster from the app store makes no real difference and most importantly, I can't read the text no matter where on the phone I am due to the 960 x 580 screen resolution.

So, do I go back and get a 4G again OR with eventual rooting and or HTC Updates will the EVO 3d be worth keeping?

I have 15 days to my 30 days are up to decide.
Anybody in a similar situation?

AGAIN my MAIN issues:

Text too small phone wide

Loudness of speaker : Poor

Side by side test with a youtube test between an evo 3d vs EVO 4g the 4G wins hands down with loudness off the charts on the 4g compared to EVO 3d.

So keep it and wait for changes or swap back for the EVO 4g?

Thanks,

Jeff
Text size: that's a side effect of the higher resolution. As for controlling the size of text for all apps: that's a tough one because any given app may or may not support controlling that. HTC did try to enlarge the homescreen icons, and most people hated it because of the fuzzy borders. If large text size is important to you, you should avoid higher resolution screens for now. And remember, it's all relative. For my Mom, even the text on the Evo 4G was too small.

Speaker volume: unclear whether this can be fixed. It's a good possibility but I'm not holding my breath. Also note that E4G had possibly the loudest speaker of any smartphone ever. Not exaggerating. If you put any phone up against E4G, it's going to lose. Not only was the E4G speaker loud, it could do a pretty wide frequency range, so you got a fuller sound. E3D sounds tinny, and making that louder still won't make it sound as good as E4G.

So, if these two issues are your top priorities, going back to E4G makes a lot of sense.

As for my personal opinions:

Text size: I'm young enough to still have perfect near sight, and I love the higher pixel density. So E3D display demolishes the E4G screen.

Speaker volume: the alarm wakes me up at volume setting 5 of 7, so that's plenty loud for me. When an SMS comes in and the phone is in my pocket and I'm driving with lots of background noise, I hear the phone at volume setting 6 of 7. When listening to music or watching a video, I prefer to use my headphones to get the full frequency range. Speakerphone during a conference call is loud enough with the phone on my desk next to me. I definitely prefer E4G volume and richness, but this one is pretty low priority for me.
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I think you guys need to relax and wait until the updates come out, to say that the old evo is better than the 3d is just ******ed... yeah there are a few bugs but nothing that cant be fixed with updates or future rooting
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I believe the loudness issue can be resolved (if you listen to the FM radio on the speaker it is really loud) which indicates the speaker can be amped up quite a bit once we have SU.

How are you able to listen to the radio through the speaker? Everytime I attempt this Im told that headphones are needed for the antennae. Do you have a specific app, or know of a way to bypass this?
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How are you able to listen to the radio through the speaker? Everytime I attempt this Im told that headphones are needed for...
Yes, you need headphones plugged in, because the phone uses the cable from the headphones as the antenna. Just grab a crap pair you don't care about and hit speaker.
Back where i used to work, I took a $.50 pair, ripped the earbuds off and soldered a bunch of extra wire we had lying around together and ran it out the back door. Got near perfect signal, considering it was an all metal building.

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Plug in headphones and hit the button that looks like a speaker. The phone will play the radio through the external speaker, but you need heaphones to work as the antenna.
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Didnt know that. Thanks Ill have to try that.
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For amplifying the sound look for DSP Manager which works quite well. It wont be as loud as 4g but does get loud enough.

As far as texts go, once root become available you can install LCD density changer and change resolution to make it as close to the 4g resolution but of course this will affect everything and not just text. If this isn't to your liking I'm sure down the line youll be able to flash your own fonts to it.

Coming from 4g there are gonna be some difference but I think the positive outweighs the negative and for the most part its just a matter of getting used to things. I know when I look at my evo 4g now I feel that the resolution is just too big now and the entire phone just feels outdated. My personal opinion anyway.
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I came from the EVO 4G and have to say I love the 3D. I actually use the 3D aspect much more than I thought I would. The main reason I got it was for the other specs (this thing is super fast and very responsive) but I have been experimenting with 3D photos and video and have really enjoyed it. My husband now has the 4G and other than having to charge it more than his Optimus he is very pleased. If you like the 4G better then keep it... it is still a great phone. As for me, I'm loving the 3D
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Just joined in the forums and would like to get some "advice". I am new to Sprint and started out last month with the EVO 4G. I love the phone but have the opportunity to upgrade within 30 days to the EVO3D. I'm not so much into the camera function, but have read a lot that makes me think the dual processor, Sense, etc. would be worth the "upgrade" since it would only be a $50.00 investment. Thoughts???? Tim
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Just joined in the forums and would like to get some "advice". I am new to Sprint and started out last month with the EVO 4G. I love the phone but have the opportunity to upgrade within 30 days to the EVO3D. I'm not so much into the camera function, but have read a lot that makes me think the dual processor, Sense, etc. would be worth the "upgrade" since it would only be a $50.00 investment. Thoughts???? Tim
Do it and you will not be dissappointed. The 4G was my favorite phone ever and I hardly miss it. The 3vo is just a better device IMO.
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The Evo 4G is a great phone but if I were you I would upgrade to the Evo3D while I can. The Evo3D is going to be more "future proof" in today's day and age than the Evo4G and I think you'll get more out of the device.
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I love my Evo 4G. I was pretty skeptical of the Evo 3D when I played with it in the stores, because I didn't have enough time to really get a feel for it.

I got my Evo 3D last night, and set it up mostly. After using it for a few hours, I can strongly endorse the Evo 3D.

I never thought my Evo 4G was slow, but wow the Evo 3D is very snappy. The instant I press an icon the app instantly starts up. The Evo 4G was very fast, but the 3D is break-neck speed fast. Simply amazing.

The higher resolution display is more apparent after using it for a while. Everything is sharper (albeit a bit smaller due to the higher pixel density).

Speaker is surprisingly loud, as I was suspicious of the tiny speaker opening in the back compared to my Evo 4G. People that I call say I sound crystal clear.

It's a great phone. I love it!
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Unless you love the 3D you might wait and see what they do for the Galaxy s II before you make a decision...
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You also might want to see if the rumors of the Hero 4G are true if it drops before your 30 day window (which I doubt but you never know)
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Go with the 3D. You won't be dissapointed.
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3D all the way! The processor and RAM upgrades alone should tell you that. Quadrant scores are more than double and that's without it being rooted yet. The 3vo is AMAZING! It's not like the 3D feature has to be used, but in my personal opinion it is fun to have from time to time.
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Do eeet.
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I've been using my 3D for about 2 weeks now. I got it from Amazon Wireless.

My 4G has been in airplane mode for like all 14 days now on the same charge lol. I picked it up just to stream some music and I realized I kind of missed it.

The 3D is not such a huge jump I mean it is wayyy faster but I know my 4G will be much faster if I nerd out and really get into it and root it and all that.

My question - should i return my 3D within my 30 day window and hope that something even more awesome comes out soon (thus saving my upgrade eligibility I'm eligible every 12 mo). What is it like to return an amazon wireless phone after it's been used? easy?

OR should I sell on CL? I notice they are only fetching around $300-360 new. It has a screen protector and case plus an extra unused screen protector. When I first got my EVO 4G there were going for $400+ even used :/

I'm thinking about asking $350 firm...?

Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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I got the 3vo in anticipation that I will prob be in the 30 day window for the gs2 release which is supposed to be sometime september, but I really like the phone lol... may not even switch it :O
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I got the 3vo in anticipation that I will prob be in the 30 day window for the gs2 release which is supposed to be sometime september, but I really like the phone lol... may not even switch it :O
Do we know when the GS2 is supposed to drop and is it on sprint?
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One month later and I stand by my post above. The only thing I can add is that I enjoy the full mirroring using MHL
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A rooted and streamlined Evo cannot compare to a rooted and streamlined 3vo.

Using CF Bench, the only CPU-side benchmark that really makes things obvious, I'm able to just exceed a stock SGS2 when I overclock on demand to 1.5 GHz. Nothing you can do an Evo will put it in that territory (and some fans are overclocking the 3D to 1.7 or 2.0 GHz, when the individual phone allows it).

I hear the Sprint SGS2 is coming soon, but the rumored date keeps changing - Sprint is definitely getting a copy.

Most of my friends in Europe with the SGS2 _really_ speak highly of them, although one just couldn't find the dual core advantage for his particular uses, so he went and traded with a buddy for the Nexus S and is actually happier with the performance (available as the 4G model for us on Sprint) - so, everyone's mileage and preferences varies.
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A rooted and streamlined Evo cannot compare to a rooted and streamlined 3vo.

Using CF Bench, the only CPU-side benchmark that really makes things obvious, I'm able to just exceed a stock SGS2 when I overclock on demand to 1.5 GHz. Nothing you can do an Evo will put it in that territory (and some fans are overclocking the 3D to 1.7 or 2.0 GHz, when the individual phone allows it).

I hear the Sprint SGS2 is coming soon, but the rumored date keeps changing - Sprint is definitely getting a copy.

Most of my friends in Europe with the SGS2 _really_ speak highly of them, although one just couldn't find the dual core advantage for his particular uses, so he went and traded with a buddy for the Nexus S and is actually happier with the performance (available as the 4G model for us on Sprint) - so, everyone's mileage and preferences varies.
The hardware specs of the EVO3D vs the SGS2 are almost the same. However, I would recommend HTC over Samsung any day because of their superior software support. I have been waiting for some simple glitches to be patched on the Epic for more than a year now. Some comparable glitches have been patched within a couple weeks with the HTC EVO3D.
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The EVO 4G+ would be the Real sucesssor of the OG-VO.. but....I don't think we're gonna get it.. ='(
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