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Old September 9th, 2011, 12:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Disabling Shutter Sound?

Haven't been able to find this kind of post for an EVO 3D.

I have heard that there is some law regulating that the cameras of cell phones must produce a sound when taking a picture.

So, is there a way to disale the shutter sound?
(also, I want to be able to do this on a non-rooted stock EVO 3D of that is possible.)

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Haven't been able to find this kind of post for an EVO 3D.

I have heard that there is some law regulating that the cameras of cell phones must produce a sound when taking a picture.

So, is there a way to disale the shutter sound?
(also, I want to be able to do this on a non-rooted stock EVO 3D of that is possible.)
open camera, press menu, and uncheck shutter sound
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open camera, press menu, and uncheck shutter sound
I have no option for that when I open the menu.
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I have no option for that when I open the menu.
the rom i am running does not have the modded camera, what options do you have in the menu? did u try to scroll through?
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the rom i am running does not have the modded camera, what options do you have in the menu? did u try to scroll through?
Timer
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Nothing about shutter sounds though
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have you taken all otas?
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if you follow this thread, it looks as if with the latest ots it disables the ability to turn off the shutter sound. do you hear the sound if volume is in silent?
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I'm glad you made a topic for this MoeBob. I've been meaning to break this out to its own topic for a few weeks but life goes on. We have a topic for when the update rolled out and there was some side chatter about the camera shutter sound, but it has never gotten the attention it deserves. (see topic)
I've found out through my contact with HTC that with the newest system update, that gave us 2.3.4, HTC has purposefully removed the option to turn off the shutter sound for the camera. I've included my posts for your reading:

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I understand thatyou are having troubles with the camera giving a shutter sound after the update, even when the sound profile is set to Silent mode. After testing this on our own device after conducting the update I was unable to duplicate your concern. Instead, the camera application functioned exactly as you expect it to, with the sound profile set to Silent, or even Vibrate, the camera application gaveno shutter sound.

From my understanding from your e-mail, you have already performed a factorydefault reset,but theconcern continues even through this reset. As such, I would like to forward your concern to our escalations team for further review. In order to do this, I do require some additional information. Please provide an alternate contact number that you can be contacted at, such as a different phone or a land line; the best times of day to contact you at that number; and the time zone that you live in. I will require all three of these pieces of information before I can send this concern to our escalations team, so please provide all three in your reply.

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I'm tough to contact by phone as I keep mostly overnight hours, but if anyone else with shutter sound problems wants to contact HTC and speak to them over the phone during business hours it might be helpful? I told them they could continue to email me as that would work best for my schedule. I also replied and floated 2 possible ideas for causation: Maybe the update imports your last camera setting and then you are stuck with it depending on what it was set to pre-update, or maybe the screenshot sound and camera shutter sound are being confused by the programming somehow?
Who knows if either one of my random ideas have any merit. Hopefully HTC will help get to the bottom of things. This is one of those minute details that can be really annoying to deal with.
I wanted to follow up on this for everyones sake. I persisted with requiring email conversation and I reached past my initial contact that said they HAD to call me and got to their escalations team by mail and this is what they had to say on the subject (Excludes my side of the interaction):

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This is something that could be fixed with a patch.
The ONLY information that we have regarding the camera shutter sound is that it is designed in 2.3.4 (yes this is a change) to be on all the time. Some customers are not experiencing this and it is the software on their device not functioning correctly.
I have noted your request for full control of this and other sounds. If enough users like yourself request this type of thing, it will be changed.

To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number [removed ticket].

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It is pretty easy to contact them and get through to them, and the best part is they have a track record of listening to us the end user. So if you are looking to get rid of that pesky shutter sound take a quick minute and send HTC a message regarding it please.
(I'm thinking of breaking this out into a new topic with a poll, if there is no objection from the mods or anyone)
Don't hesitate to contact HTC on this. We can still get them to turn this ship around and fly straight.
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I hope that this does get changed. I hate when I don't have full control over the sounds my phone makes. Especially when I'm on class trying to take a picture (that could be taken a few ways) and the shutter noise attracts attention.

Also, all this user control talk has me thinking about another suggestion.

I want to be able to change my notification tone to a custom one!!! I can change my ringtone all day but not my SMS/ everything else tone! I have a custom tone that I used on my Blackberry and when I got my 3VO I was excited to add that tone but then found out that I cannot alter it.

This topic is for a different thread however...
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Get a custom sound set use it then change the tones
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Turn the main volume down on the phone, that will disable the shutter sound.
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Turn the main volume down on the phone, that will disable the shutter sound.
Unfortunately that method does not work for every person and every case. As stated by HTC, they designed the shutter sound to be on all the time and if your phone is operating any differently then it is not operating correctly. If your phone is not operating correctly, or if you want the power to make your own decision on whether to have a camera shutter sound or not, be sure to let HTC know.

I think this thread needs a poll, so people can weigh in on how they feel about camera shutter sounds. Maybe if enough people place their preference we can use it as evidence for giving user controlled shutter sound options.
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Turn the main volume down on the phone, that will disable the shutter sound.
We have already established that turning down the volume does not work.
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That sucks. Works for me everytime. If I have my ringer volume off or vibrate my shutter sound corresponds. Turn it back on and it's back, although it's not affected by the volume level. It's either full blast or not there.

Either way OP can try that to see if it works on his phone.
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Unfortunately that method does not work for every person and every case. As stated by HTC, they designed the shutter sound to be on all the time and if your phone is operating any differently then it is not operating correctly. If your phone is not operating correctly, or if you want the power to make your own decision on whether to have a camera shutter sound or not, be sure to let HTC know.

I think this thread needs a poll, so people can weigh in on how they feel about camera shutter sounds. Maybe if enough people place their preference we can use it as evidence for giving user controlled shutter sound options.
I think it was a simple mistake that someone made before they sent out the last ota. I figure it will be something that will get fixed in the next ota, but for me personally I always leave my shutter sound off.
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I think it was a simple mistake that someone made before they sent out the last ota. I figure it will be something that will get fixed in the next ota, but for me personally I always leave my shutter sound off.
I hope I'm not misinterpreting what you are trying to say here but, there was no mistake. HTC has changed their policy regarding the camera shutter noise and have purposefully removed the option to disable the camera sounds for 2.3.4 and beyond. Currently there is a bug that allows some users to continue to not have camera sounds at all (strange settings import from 2.3.3), while some others have found they can somewhat enable and disable the camera sounds by adjusting the volume controls.

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This is something that could be fixed with a patch.
The ONLY information that we have regarding the camera shutter sound is that it is designed in 2.3.4 (yes this is a change) to be on all the time. Some customers are not experiencing this and it is the software on their device not functioning correctly.
I have noted your request for full control of this and other sounds. If enough users like yourself request this type of thing, it will be changed.

To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number [removed ticket].

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You state that you always keep the camera sounds off, however that option has recently been taken away from us. You may be fortunate enough to still be experiencing no shutter sound, or shutter sound that you can semi-control, but HTC has made it clear that is NOT how the software should be operating. Once you factory reset or clear the camera application data you will likely find that you will be stuck with permanent shutter sound, zoom noise, and focus beep.
The only way we can preserve our right to turn off these sounds, which many find annoying, is to contact HTC and let them know en masse that we want our user control returned with our next update.

I implore everyone that reads this topic to Contact HTC as soon as possible and let them know that we would like camera sounds changed back to user control.

People can root their phone and remove these seemingly annoying sounds, people can also install other third party applications to silence the camera, but when it comes right down to it we should not have to. The option to turn off these sounds should not have been removed from our control and if we make a stand now we may be able to get this wrong righted.
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Since it has been a few weeks since I have talked with HTC I decided to follow up and see where things are at with this, here was their response:

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We have received some feedback requesting the shutter sound added back. At this time, we do not have any further information if this may or may not be changed in any future updates.

To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number [removed].

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Even though the English is broken, I can no doubt translate that it sounds like they still need some more motivatin'
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Using root explorer, you can delete the shutter sound file
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Using root explorer, you can delete the shutter sound file
They must have named it to something pretty obscure. I located /system/media/audio/ui/camera_click.ogg, renamed it, rebooted, took a picture and the noise still occurred. Oddly enough, though, I took a screenshot and the shutter noise did NOT occur. I did searches under "shutter," "camera," and "click." Do you know of another file/location? I also thought about looking at the camera preferences file to see if perhaps I could edit it and disable it from there but I don't know if I want to do that much monkeying around...
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They must have named it to something pretty obscure. I located /system/media/audio/ui/camera_click.ogg, renamed it, rebooted, took a picture and the noise still occurred. Oddly enough, though, I took a screenshot and the shutter noise did NOT occur. I did searches under "shutter," "camera," and "click." Do you know of another file/location? I also thought about looking at the camera preferences file to see if perhaps I could edit it and disable it from there but I don't know if I want to do that much monkeying around...
You could try replacing the file with a identical file that has no sound on it. Just a silent sound file with the same exact name.

Like you suspect there is probably another file somewhere. Someone might know the specific location. You could search XDA maybe. I'd find you the answer except that I am not near my PC.
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You could try replacing the file with a identical file that has no sound on it. Just a silent sound file with the same exact name.

Like you suspect there is probably another file somewhere. Someone might know the specific location. You could search XDA maybe. I'd find you the answer except that I am not near my PC.
I did a search and for those of us who are rooted, here is the thread I found at XDA that has a flashable zip of the camera app with no shutter sound. It also has some other enhancements. I flashed and it works great

[TEAM XPOSED] [MOD] Remove shutter sound from 2.3.4 HTCCamera.apk - xda-developers
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I did a search and for those of us who are rooted, here is the thread I found at XDA that has a flashable zip of the camera app with no shutter sound. It also has some other enhancements. I flashed and it works great

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A Freeza thread. He is the greatest. I wonder if he still lurks around here.

I beg of those that are rooted and doing the easy hacks to disable the shutter sound to still email HTC and request them to give us our option back. Some of us can't/don't/won't root and still are looking for the best resolution straight from the HTC source.

I remember during the locked bootloader debacle months back that me and others, who aren't rooted and never will root, went to bat for the rooting community and asked HTC for our freedom of choice. I'm hoping this proves to be a two way street, and that the rooting community will help out in asking HTC for a change in shutter sound policy for the good of all HTC phone users. Like I've mentioned before this is not a huge deal, its just one of those ever annoying details that should not have been changed.
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A Freeza thread. He is the greatest. I wonder if he still lurks around here.

I beg of those that are rooted and doing the easy hacks to disable the shutter sound to still email HTC and request them to give us our option back. Some of us can't/don't/won't root and still are looking for the best resolution straight from the HTC source.

I remember during the locked bootloader debacle months back that I and others who aren't rooted and never will root went to bat for the rooting community and asked HTC for our freedom of choice. I'm hoping this is a two way street and that the rooting community will help out in asking HTC for a change in shutter sound policy, for the good of all of us. Like I've mentioned before this is not a huge deal, its just one of those ever annoying details that should not have been changed.
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I beg of those that are rooted and doing the easy hacks to disable the shutter sound to still email HTC and request them to give us our option back. Some of us can't/don't/won't root and still are looking for the best resolution straight from the HTC source.

I remember during the locked bootloader debacle months back that I and others who aren't rooted and never will root went to bat for the rooting community and asked HTC for our freedom of choice. I'm hoping this is a two way street and that the rooting community will help out in asking HTC for a change in shutter sound policy, for the good of all of us. Like I've mentioned before this is not a huge deal, its just one of those ever annoying details that should not have been changed.
I was just coming in here to remind people to do that. I've already sent my emails regarding it.
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Is this an HTC thing cause my captivate and thrill allows me to silent the shutter
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I was just coming in here to remind people to do that. I've already sent my emails regarding it.
Thanks Carrie and jd for your follow through, and thanks to everyone else that has sent in an email already.

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Is this an HTC thing cause my captivate and thrill allows me to silent the shutter
This is a new HTC thing. According to their customer service they have recently changed a policy regarding camera sounds which now enforces them, forcing them to be on all the time in spite of the users personal opinion. I haven't checked on any recent new HTC phones to see if they follow this new policy but it might be something to look into.

Motorola have been forcing camera sounds for a while - although some of their phones are truly completely silent in silent mode. Samsung (Captivate) and LG (Thrill) must not have a policy for this yet. It may also vary depending on the carrier?
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Anybody send any email to HTC about this problem lately? I'm just itching to use the 'Thanks' button.
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sound off, or vibrate I still get the shutter sound on my evo 3d
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What strikes me as odd is that you can video tape with no noise or indication...
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Yeah, thats the source of frustration. If you don't like these forced sound effects, be sure to send HTC and email and let them know loud and clear that you want your choice back.

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That is strange, I've never noticed that one. Probably because rarely have I used the video recording feature.
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I just sent them an E-mail too, including a note that I intend to send them an invoice for the cost of using Silent Snap to get around it. Not that they'll pay it, of course.
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My (EU) Evo 3D is running 2.3.4 out of the box but it has the option to switch off shutter sound so this must be a regional thing. By law some countries require a camera phone to make a noise to prevent certain types of photo being taken...

The thing is what if you are taking a photo, quite legitimately, where you need to be a quiet as possible? You should have the option to run silently
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Old April 16th, 2012, 02:44 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I know this thread is a couple months old...but I'm assuming this issue is resolved since I have the option to toggle shutter sound built in.
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Old April 16th, 2012, 07:08 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I know this thread is a couple months old...but I'm assuming this issue is resolved since I have the option to toggle shutter sound built in.
you must not be running the latest Sense update then...cuz you can't turn it off now
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They must have named it to something pretty obscure. I located /system/media/audio/ui/camera_click.ogg, renamed it, rebooted, took a picture and the noise still occurred. Oddly enough, though, I took a screenshot and the shutter noise did NOT occur. I did searches under "shutter," "camera," and "click." Do you know of another file/location? I also thought about looking at the camera preferences file to see if perhaps I could edit it and disable it from there but I don't know if I want to do that much monkeying around...

More of this! For some reason, trying to find info about changing stuff in Android invariably leads to someone peddling an app when all I want is pathways and file names. I'd much rather edit things manually rather than install some bloated app that probably uses higher permissions than neccesary.

Now, since this pathway was mentioned and it looks like the camera's audio file, can anyone confirm before I make a blank replacement?
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Old July 6th, 2012, 10:11 AM   #36 (permalink)
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They must have named it to something pretty obscure. I located /system/media/audio/ui/camera_click.ogg, renamed it, rebooted, took a picture and the noise still occurred. Oddly enough, though, I took a screenshot and the shutter noise did NOT occur. I did searches under "shutter," "camera," and "click." Do you know of another file/location? I also thought about looking at the camera preferences file to see if perhaps I could edit it and disable it from there but I don't know if I want to do that much monkeying around...

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More of this! For some reason, trying to find info about changing stuff in Android invariably leads to someone peddling an app when all I want is pathways and file names. I'd much rather edit things manually rather than install some bloated app that probably uses higher permissions than neccesary.

Now, since this pathway was mentioned and it looks like the camera's audio file, can anyone confirm before I make a blank replacement?

You need to be rooted to remove the correct sound files from the HTCCamera.apk in the system/app folder. Removing them from the directory CarrieK found will only get rid of the sound files that works for screenshots etc.

Here's how I got rid of the camera focusing, focused, camera beep and click sounds:

First, I made a backup just in case. With ES File Explorer I went to system/app and long pressed the HTCCamera.apk and selected extract to. I extracted to my SD card. Next I connected my phone to PC in disk drive mode and copied the extracted HTCCamera.apk to my computer. Then I changed the extension from .apk to .zip. After that is done it can be opened to view all the parts of the apk. Once opened navigate to res/raw and delete everything except rccountdown.ogg and recend.ogg. Once that is done go back and change HTCCamera.zip back to HTCCamera.apk. Put the modified HTCCamera.apk back on the SD card, copy it and paste it back in system/app. Tell it to overwrite/merge. After that is done, exit your file explorer and your camera app has likely disappeared from your app drawer and holding the camera button will not work either. Simply reboot the device and it should reappear and work as advertised, though it may be at the bottom or end of the app drawer.

Additionally if you want a silent screenshot, go to the directory CarrieK did above and remove the same files there. I left them so to keep an audio confirmation that a screenshot was taken.

Additional info here.
[TEAM XPOSED] [MOD] Remove shutter sound from 2.3.4 HTCCamera.apk - xda-developers

Disclaimer: Not my fault if this doesn't work for you, but it should if you are rooted as it did for me.
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you must not be running the latest Sense update then...cuz you can't turn it off now
Ahhh I see. I'm running Sense 3.6
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I know this thread initially started a long time ago, but as it has recent posts I thought I would add a tip for those who do not have a rooted phone.

there is an app called "Mobile hidden camera" (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zecurisoft.mhc1202). While the obvious intent of this app is somewhat nefarious, it does offer two bonuses for me.

1) no shutter sound with no rooting required.

2) multishot - one thing I missed with my HTC is the ability to multishot which this application has.
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