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Old August 27th, 2012, 01:13 PM   #401 (permalink)
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Well, to further answer your question.. Servicing the battery will be quite easy.. The battery is not soldierd in and is easy to access.. The going price right now is 25 bucks at ************.com ( note that they are currently out of stock) I know I know.. You will be voiding your warranty probably by taking it apart.. But we're talking far into the future near the end of our contracts and close to renewal. So i doubt anyone would even have a warranty still. I was asking myself the same question . "non servicable" batteries scare me... That's why when I bought a tablet I bought the Toshiba thrive

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@CyreneK, when you pulled your battery for the reset, once it powered back up did the battery show a drop in percentage?
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Hey, sorda off topic but when you pulled your battery for the reset, once it powered back up did the battery show a drop in percentage?
Yep, almost 5%.
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After I long press the power button to effect the equivalent to battery pull, the reset drains the battery about 4%. Why the significant battery drain?
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After I long press the power button to effect the equivalent to battery pull, the reset drains the battery about 4%. Why the significant battery drain?
I would assume starting up the device and connecting to networks does this.
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Could also be because the battery reading is just an estimate based on usage.

When starting up its going to use more power than sitting there, so usage would be higher
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Hi everyone, Since the latest update, my battery have been awesome. As of right now the phone have been on for 71 hrs and still have 34% left. I'm not a heavy user, only a moderate.
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Hi everyone, Since the latest update, my battery have been awesome. As of right now the phone have been on for 71 hrs and still have 34% left. I'm not a heavy user, only a moderate.
Teach us your ways! On meanrom4.4 I'm getting around 15hrs which is unheard of for me. I'm more than happy with that.

I probably use my phone too much though... Lol
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Teach us your ways! On meanrom4.4 I'm getting around 15hrs which is unheard of for me. I'm more than happy with that.

I probably use my phone too much though... Lol
Haha... I'm not doing anything extra. As you see I don't have my location, and 3g enabled, nor wifi. Only turn on wifi or 3g when i need to check my emails, and then off.
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I've been batter testing. I haven't charged my phone for two days. I have at this moment 20% battery left.

The things I do with my phone. I use the things below on a regular basis, plus I have quite a few widgets.
  • Read books (52% of the battery went to screen)
  • Text/Check personal email
  • Search the internet (while at work)
  • FourSquare
  • Google Maps
  • Weather updates
  • Google Play music, on the way to/from work.
  • Play a few games
  • Snap Pictures/Upload


If this was my EVO 4G I wouldn't be able to go 10 hours with doing all this unless I plugged into the usb port at work.

I'm very happy with battery life and I think it's a non factor for anyone saying they would not buy this device, "because it does not have a removable battery".

There are plenty of ways around that issue. Just plug it into a usb charger on your PC at work or in your car.
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Do you suppose that anyone will be crazy enough to try to get a One X +(plus) battery and try to put it in the One X or Evo 4G LTE?
I can only guess that the battery will follow the same approximate form factor and power output.

I'm interested in the experiment itself and possible changes in the new design, not the small mAh difference.
It would be fun to see
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I've been batter testing. I haven't charged my phone for two days. I have at this moment 20% battery left.

The things I do with my phone. I use the things below on a regular basis, plus I have quite a few widgets.
  • Read books (52% of the battery went to screen)
  • Text/Check personal email
  • Search the internet (while at work)
  • FourSquare
  • Google Maps
  • Weather updates
  • Google Play music, on the way to/from work.
  • Play a few games
  • Snap Pictures/Upload


If this was my EVO 4G I wouldn't be able to go 10 hours with doing all this unless I plugged into the usb port at work.

I'm very happy with battery life and I think it's a non factor for anyone saying they would not buy this device, "because it does not have a removable battery".

There are plenty of ways around that issue. Just plug it into a usb charger on your PC at work or in your car.
My issue is not that I can't change to a different battery, it is the fact it is non-replacable at all. I have had batteries die completely in less than a year before so.

On another note, how do you get life like that? Even when I don't use my phone it won't make it 24 hours, maybe 18-20 but it is turning itself off then.
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My issue is not that I can't change to a different battery, it is the fact it is non-replacable at all. I have had batteries die completely in less than a year before so.

On another note, how do you get life like that? Even when I don't use my phone it won't make it 24 hours, maybe 18-20 but it is turning itself off then.
I'm going to guess part is wifi. At work and at home I'm on wifi.
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I do the same. And the 18-20 hours is literally NO USE at all, no calls, no text, no games, no emails.
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I do the same. And the 18-20 hours is literally NO USE at all, no calls, no text, no games, no emails.
You've got to have something(s) with wakelock forcing that bad performance.

Do you have Android Beam off? If you don't use it, it sucks power for no reason.
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Do you have Android Beam off? If you don't use it, it sucks power for no reason.
I'm not even finding it, but I have been working all day setting up for Austin City Limits Music Festival.
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I'm not even finding it, but I have been working all day setting up for Austin City Limits Music Festival.
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just got this phone. loving it so far.

question re battery life - battery is dropping like 5-10% per hour. from what i have been reading about the battery life, i would think it should be much less. i usually keep wi-fi and bluetooth on all the time. gps is off. have 3 gmails accounts, 2 yahoos, but those are only updating every 4 hours. during the day, i am mostly using it for some texting, a few calls, but nothing very heavy. wondering if the battery is going faster than it should be based on others' more expert perspectives.

if more info is needed for a better answer i'd be happy to provide.

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My battery goes down 1-2% when in standby. I keep Bluetooth off if my Bluetooth appliance is not on and near the phone. I also use "AutoWiFi Enabler" which automatically switches to 3G when out of range of a known WiFi signal and back to WiFi when appropriate.

it is my understanding that a phone will continuously look for a WiFi signal and/or Bluetooth unit if it does not find a signal on which to lock - thus use much battery juice.
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thanks, that app seems to be off the market. i would like one that is easy on the phone, doesn't do too much. used some of those before, when i had the evo 3d, found they either didn't work well, or used too much juice.
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just got this phone. loving it so far.

question re battery life - battery is dropping like 5-10% per hour. from what i have been reading about the battery life, i would think it should be much less. i usually keep wi-fi and bluetooth on all the time. gps is off. have 3 gmails accounts, 2 yahoos, but those are only updating every 4 hours. during the day, i am mostly using it for some texting, a few calls, but nothing very heavy. wondering if the battery is going faster than it should be based on others' more expert perspectives.

if more info is needed for a better answer i'd be happy to provide.

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if it is dropping...that much.. WHILE IN SLEEP MODE..then yes.. you have issues.
most likely a bad app or something is not letting your phone fully sleep.

try some of the battery monitoring apps mentioned earlier. see which app is causing the problem.

or you are using the phone a lot...

or your phone needs to be fully rest and start fresh again.
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thanks. any monitor you would recommend? came late to this thread, haven't seen the various ones mentioned.
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Many folk have recommended "GSam Battery Monitor" Easy to see what is using the battery.
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GSAM Battery Monitor is pretty good.
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great, thanks. will check it out. haven't really added much as far as apps, and i was seeing much better life the first few days i had it.
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any good recommends on a wifi management app? don't want something heavy like juice defender. only want one to auto turn on when in range and shut off when not.

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so i downloaded the gsam monitor. here is a screenshot. any thoughts? do i need to snap something else?

all advice is appreciated.
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so i downloaded the gsam monitor. here is a screenshot. any thoughts? do i need to snap something else?

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It appears that you may have had issues attaching it. I can't see it on my end( on the phone at least)
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seems the attachment didn't go thru the first time, here's another go.
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Guess I'll be perusing this thread again, since becoming a Mod my battery life has taken a hit!
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The iphone has a cult following--a fanatical defense of the iphone from any criticism, and a craving idolatry of all things Apple.

The Android phones did not have this cult nuttiness, at first. Now it seems that any reasonable criticism is simply not acceptable. Oh well, reasonableness was good while it lasted.

Now, to the point. The lack of a replaceable battery is definitely a shortcoming of this phone. My Evo 4G battery issue was readily solved by a 3500 mah battery that I could swap out, allowing heavy usage and total mobility from early morning to late evening. Not so with the LTE.

HTC is not stupid, so I am hopeful that the next iteration of this fine device will have a replaceable battery.

My LTE is a work phone, as was my 4G--work busy from 7AM to 6PM, then my personal phone from 6PM to midnight. This can only be done if I take advantage of every opportunity to charge it throughout the day. Thus, it is less reliable and less mobile than my old Evo 4G with the 3500 mah battery.

I imagine this will result in an iphone-cult like response. Oh well.
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...The lack of a replaceable battery is definitely a shortcoming of this phone. ... work busy from 7AM to 6PM, then my personal phone from 6PM to midnight. This can only be done if I take advantage of every opportunity to charge it throughout the day...
You probably already know this, and it doesn't do much good if you use a lot of data, but it does if your main concern is the phone for communication.

If I'm in a low signal area with no WiFi and I'm not really using it for data, turning off the mobile network saves a ton of juice. Also, turning off the GPS, Bluetooth and WiFi. I've had my battery last over 40 hours using this technique, and turning on the various radios as needed.

It occurs to me that more phones are coming with a non-replaceable battery these days.
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The iphone has a cult following--a fanatical defense of the iphone from any criticism, and a craving idolatry of all things Apple.

The Android phones did not have this cult nuttiness, at first. Now it seems that any reasonable criticism is simply not acceptable. Oh well, reasonableness was good while it lasted.

Now, to the point. The lack of a replaceable battery is definitely a shortcoming of this phone. My Evo 4G battery issue was readily solved by a 3500 mah battery that I could swap out, allowing heavy usage and total mobility from early morning to late evening. Not so with the LTE.

HTC is not stupid, so I am hopeful that the next iteration of this fine device will have a replaceable battery.

My LTE is a work phone, as was my 4G--work busy from 7AM to 6PM, then my personal phone from 6PM to midnight. This can only be done if I take advantage of every opportunity to charge it throughout the day. Thus, it is less reliable and less mobile than my old Evo 4G with the 3500 mah battery.

I imagine this will result in an iphone-cult like response. Oh well.
Sorry you're having trouble but that's no reason to march in here and be condescending to everyone. Please don't do that.

If you want to detail your situation and post specifics we may be able to help.

Are you in a fringe area? Are you losing power over a reception issue? Have you had Sprint perform an RF box test to ensure that you don't have faulty radios?

Are you on wifi for any portion of the day? Are you on LTE all day?

How many hours of screen on time are you getting per charge?

Last two times I heard of trouble that bad, the phones were defective, replaced and problem solved.

Can't advise you on anything without more information.
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any good recommends on a wifi management app? don't want something heavy like juice defender. only want one to auto turn on when in range and shut off when not.

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For many normal users, you don't need to baby your wifi connection and your drop for wifi scanning won't be noticeable.

The app you're describing is built in.

As shown above in the post on 40 hours, you can go the other way, manage everything and get longer life where needed.





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so i downloaded the gsam monitor. here is a screenshot. any thoughts? do i need to snap something else?

all advice is appreciated.
Yes, a few things please.

In the app, menu, more, battery use - built in, you'll get the built-in graph. Tap the graph for an extended view, show us that, it's going to look like this -

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Then, go back to the previous page, click on screen on time, tell us how long your screen was on.

Back again to GSAM, tap the tool on the lower left that looks like a vacuum cleaner (or tap app usage, same thing), then tap the bar at the top of the next page, view time held awake, show us that.

PS - if you select the graph tool at the bottom of GSAM, turn your phone sideways you'll find three button choices at the top - Temperature, Phone Signal and Others. Others is like the built-in detail graph, and Phone Signal is pretty useful to compare battery drain vs. cell signal.
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The iphone has a cult following--a fanatical defense of the iphone from any criticism, and a craving idolatry of all things Apple.

The Android phones did not have this cult nuttiness, at first. Now it seems that any reasonable criticism is simply not acceptable. Oh well, reasonableness was good while it lasted.

Now, to the point. The lack of a replaceable battery is definitely a shortcoming of this phone. My Evo 4G battery issue was readily solved by a 3500 mah battery that I could swap out, allowing heavy usage and total mobility from early morning to late evening. Not so with the LTE.

HTC is not stupid, so I am hopeful that the next iteration of this fine device will have a replaceable battery.

My LTE is a work phone, as was my 4G--work busy from 7AM to 6PM, then my personal phone from 6PM to midnight. This can only be done if I take advantage of every opportunity to charge it throughout the day. Thus, it is less reliable and less mobile than my old Evo 4G with the 3500 mah battery.

I imagine this will result in an iphone-cult like response. Oh well.
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I also am a heavy user with my calls being up to 3+ hours a day (used to be more till we got added help), a Pop3 and IMAP email account every 30 minutes, syncing to Gmail constantly plus texting, internet and app usage throughout the day and I can now hit 3-5pm on a heavy day before needing to recharge.
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I try to be aware of when my phone is finished charging but sometimes you inevitably forget and leave it on for awhile charging. I had it on with the green light probably showing for a good 2 hours the other day and wondered just how bad that is for the battery. I had the old evo and did this several times, I once handed it to a tech (for another reason) he noticed the battery and told me I left it on too long. I told the guy I probably charged the thing over 300 times and you can't be perfect. How hard is it to make the damn thing shut off when it's done? I don't understand that, it's like the want you to do it on purpose.
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The tech was wrong.

Once fully charged, the entire charging circuit shuts down. That's a mandatory safety feature.

The light hits green at 100% and will remain green until the charging resumes.

That's why it's sometimes below 100% when you take it off of the charger with a green light.

At about 96% (92% on the original Evo) charging begins again.

Leaving your phone on the charger does absolutely no harm.

The tech was quoting a rule for battery technology that hasn't been around in years.
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For some reason I can't seem to find anywhere to copy a link to this via the ebay app so I just took a screen shot. What do you guys think? I want to get an external batt for on the go and when I was in best buy these were going for 80 bucks so this is a great deal. The evo 4G lte isn't on the list of "compatible". Devices but the og and 3vo are I'm guessing the ltevo is just too new... Anyway. Seems like a good deal? No?
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Back again to GSAM, tap the tool on the lower left that looks like a vacuum cleaner (or tap app usage, same thing), then tap the bar at the top of the next page, view time held awake, show us that.
LOL! I thought that was supposed to be an old fashioned oil can! Couldn't understand why. Never saw the vacuum cleaner. Wow, shoulda figured that out from the "app sucker name...."
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Periodically my HTC EVO LTE becomes warm [to hot] to touch and the battery level goes down FAST. GSam indicator indicates that K-9 Mail is consuming large percentage of the battery; and the only way I can 'cool off' the phone is by rebooting. Any thought as to why and then how to correct this?
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Periodically my HTC EVO LTE becomes warm [to hot] to touch and the battery level goes down FAST. GSam indicator indicates that K-9 Mail is consuming large percentage of the battery; and the only way I can 'cool off' the phone is by rebooting. Any thought as to why and then how to correct this?
Sounds like K-9 is getting stuck, spinning in a loop that it shouldn't be in.

Does it settle down if you use the multitasking feature (recent apps button) and swipe K-9 out?
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Sounds like K-9 is getting stuck, spinning in a loop that it shouldn't be in.

Does it settle down if you use the multitasking feature (recent apps button) and swipe K-9 out?

What is the 'multitasking feature' and how to 'swipe K-9 out' - is that uninstall??
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What is the 'multitasking feature' and how to 'swipe K-9 out' - is that uninstall??
Your recent apps button, far right at the bottom.

You'll see your running apps as a series of snapshots that you can scroll left-right through.

Find K-9, hold it and sweep up - that will force it to terminate. (not uninstall)

Not a permanent solution but may help determine if it's the culprit.
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I was sent to this forum by the K-9 developers. Here is a link with information showing that K-9 is indeed "acting up"

https://code.google.com/p/k9mail/issues/detail?id=4907
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I was sent to this forum by the K-9 developers. Here is a link with information showing that K-9 is indeed "acting up"

https://code.google.com/p/k9mail/issues/detail?id=4907
Check out "MailDroid - Email Application"

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maildroid
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