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Old April 10th, 2012, 10:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Does this handset have an HDMI Jack? [Uses an MHL port. Video inside to explain for newcomers]

Does the Evo 4G LTE have an HDMI jack? I've watched all of the pre-release videos online and I can't be sure either way. Thanks.

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Does the Evo 4G LTE have an HDMI jack? I've watched all of the pre-release videos online and I can't be sure either way. Thanks.

It uses what's called MHL technology. Basically, the micro usb port doubles as an hdmi output. There exists adapters that will link the micro usb to the Micro hdmi cords. No worries for this phone and hdmi out though
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Since the ops question has been answered and to keep clutter down in this forum, I will close this thread.

To those who are new to the EVO and to MHL ports in general on handsets, here is a video that speaks about MHL and its uses. its about a year old now but the tech is still the same.

Mobile High-Definition Link (MHL) - YouTube
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Default LTEVO have full hdmi out (Mirroring) answered!

I tried to get some feed back in the One X thread but no luv from those guys I instead found this video demo of a One X wit a MHL adapter indeed performing full mirroring to a HDTV screen. I knew this was a sticking point for us OG EVO owners as it was a bit of a pain to enable full hdmi/mirroring on our handset. If anyone can find a video showing a One X streaming things like a movie, Hulu, Netflix to a HDTV that would be awesome. I am pretty sure if the One X can do it our LTEVO's should. Enjoy the Vid.

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Default Guess, LTEVO will do full mirroring wirelessly as well (DNLA)

I really don't understand what this guy is saying. I think around 3:13 mark based off his physical animations. He says "You lucky Yanks in the U.S. This is even more awesome on LTEVO, because of the sweet kickstand!" (Kidding!)
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Sorry I missed your question there, I answered it with a video a few weeks ago.

Yes, it does have full mirroring, as you found.

I don't believe that any phone can do mirroring via DLNA, that's not how that standard works, but this does feature wireless HDMI via their media link device.
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All of the top HTC phones include DLNA and MHL.

DLNA is simply a file server and client - your phone serves media files, your TV DLNA client displays or plays them.

That thing everyone calls a micro-USB port on your phone isn't, it's an MHL port Mobile HD Link. It can act like micro-USB, connect audio and video directly to an MHL equipped TV, or with a powered adapter, convert MHL to HDMI.

How to connect an Mobile High-Definition Link (MHL) Cable - Demo - YouTube

Finally, you can stream HDMI wirelessly, a fairly popular high-end option in the HDTV world, and yes, the priciest.

The advantage of the HD connection over DLNA is that you can show more than just media files.

MHL adapter, US$10 - For only $8.82 each when QTY 50+ purchased - Micro USB to HDMI® MHL Adapter - Black | MHL Adapters

£15, but I expect you can find cheaper - Samsung MHL Adapter Port Dual-Purpose USB or HDMI Video: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics

PS - avoid micro HDMI cables, everyone will try to sell you one. As Harry says, those don't work - it's not a micro HDMI port, it's MHL.

PS to the gang from Marc and I - if you find that there is more on this subject to discuss, drop either of us a line and we can re-open the thread.

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I was wondering if anyone has connected there One X to HDTV yet? Did it perform seamlessly and what resolution did it output? Does it perform full mirroring? Can stream Netflix, Hulu, and other streaming video services to your HDTV? I am hearing on other devices Hulu locked out the hdmi port. Is this true for the One X?
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Think it's time to open this thread.
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Agreed. Until about a month ago, I had no idea this tech existed. Obviously I'm not keeping up!

I had searched the forum MHL but hadn't found. Was surprised no one had been talking about it.

I do have the Media Link HD, but, like most other folks, can't have enough gadgets. Not to mention, this method doesn't require secondary power like the Media Link does.

Too bad they appear to require their own power source.

I have never used MHL. How is the quality? Anyone have a recommended device?
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MHL adapters need a power source too.

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For only $8.82 each when QTY 50+ purchased - Micro USB to HDMI® MHL Adapter - Black | MHL Adapters

Ignore what it says about some devices, like the Evo 3D, not needing power - like Harry says, they all do.
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... I have never used MHL. How is the quality? ...
The quality on the TV screen is good (my TV says 720p), the handling is easy and the stability of the function is unshakeable ... but there are these cables ...

With the MHL adapter you can't have multitasking while a video is running, like with the Media Link HD (read your emails on the phone while the video is running on the TV screen).
But on the ML you can do this only when you use the stock gallery ... and the stock player can't so much formats like third party video player.
So, MHL and Media Link, both does a good job with mirroring videos from the phone's screen to the TV's screen

Reading on the box of the Media Link says the ML should put 1080p out to the TV. My TV says this too.
But when it comes to videos, the ML can't stream a 1080p's video on the TV, such a video will be scaled to 720p.
It isn't my own experience (I'm not so smart with videos ), I read this 1080p issue on the One X's help (Q&A) on the German HTC site. Weird, on HTC's international site I didn't found that question

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So I picked up an MHL adaptor to run the video output from the phone to a HDMI TV. The adaptors are common on ebay, running under $10. This is the exact one I got: Micro USB MHL to HDMI Cable Adapter HDTVfor HTC EVO 3D Flyer G14 Galaxy S2 i9100 | eBay


Received it quickly via USPS first class.



The adaptor itself seems to be of fine build quality. Ports are tight and the signal seems to pass through fine. I am still learning how to use it so I am not sure what I'm looking at just yet.

I connected it to a LCD monitor through a HDMI to DVI cable.



First thing to know is that you must have power coming in to the micro USB on the adaptor to activate the MHL output. It seems to automatically detect that condition and activate. As you an see, it mirrors all activity on the phone screen. Resolution looks a little blocky, it has to upsample for this monitor, I'm not sure that explains everything. I don't know whether it's getting the full resolution out that it's supposed to.



I tried to play a few videos. Several of them did not seem to work, I think hardware accelerated videos seem to struggle. I have not tested extensively enough to determine exactly which are having problems or not. I did have this one that seemed to play fine, it may be playing on software rendering via Rockplayer. I can't say for sure, so I will update once my testing is done. I also was not able to test sound since it was an adaptor cable.

But so far, in general, MHL is a go on the Evo LTE, yet another Android advantage.
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My TV reports that it's seeing a 1080p feed when I go straight HDMI. Maybe try a hot swap, in and out of phone while in use to see.

Garrr, I just don't remember my DVI signaling off the top of my head, I will have to look it up. HDMI is essentially digital only DVI plus digital sound, I think that the video handshake negotiations could be the same.

I was watching a movie this evening and got a phone call, it muted sound out that port, pretty cool.

You can find headphone to stereo RCA pairs on Amazon, to get copper stereo with your DVI, it might work.

I got my adapter from monoprice.com, I think they're around $10 as well.

Sounds like you are on your way.

Maybe check your DVI input setup on your TV. On my other one like that, you have to tell it that it's ok to get higher resolution signals, just a thought. Let us all know.

Congratulations on the new kit!

PS, I get good luck with moboplayer.
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A little followup, connected via a normal HDMI cable to a TV and it worked better. Output was 720p, full screen resolution. I played the videos that I had trouble with earlier and they played fine. Great!

Sound via HDMI worked too, but it was a little bit quiet. Had to turn up the TV quite a bit. Not a huge problem except that it amplifies signal noise.

Not sure how to get 1080 out of it, any thoughts?
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A little followup, connected via a normal HDMI cable to a TV and it worked better. Output was 720p, full screen resolution. I played the videos that I had trouble with earlier and they played fine. Great!

Sound via HDMI worked too, but it was a little bit quiet. Had to turn up the TV quite a bit. Not a huge problem except that it amplifies signal noise.

Not sure how to get 1080 out of it, any thoughts?
Sounds like you are either having an HDMI negotiation problem, wonky HDMI cable, or wonky adapter.

It should be at 1080p with clear sound for most things (source needs to be good). Also note that your media volume affects sound out of the port, it's not fixed like a set top box. You may need to turn it up.

As for negotiation, assume that your TV is native 1080p, not 720p but 1080p compatible. If the latter, it's working fine.

Otherwise, look into the adapter's HDMI port and into the uUSB connector, a flashlight and magnifying glass will help. Look for anything funny on the wires.

Start there.

That or I'm the lucky one somehow, earlier in this thread, 720p was reported as common.
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@dr g,

if this is an off brand mhl adapter, this could be the reason you are seeing less that optimum results.

Ive an authentic (mhl consortium approved) mhl adapter held over from the EVO 3D days, in addition to the wireless media link HD. If you want to compare notes, pick a video from youtube or netflix or some place that's common to us both. i can test things with the mhl adapter i use and the media link if you care and report back my results.
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Fabulous idea. Let's all go for the one Neoterix showed us when he went with HDMI on the EVO back in the day.

http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/


I'm going for the mp4, an avi file requiring software decoding, in 1080p via Moboplayer.

Warning, I forgot the exact size, but it's going to big, maybe 1.2 GB, I'm downloading now via Boat Browser.

Marctronixx, let me know what you think.

Should be a good stress test.
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im using ICS+ browser and and downloading the first link under the mp4. coming for Italy.
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im using ICS+ browser and and downloading the first link under the mp4. coming for Italy.
That's the one I did. Size is ~886 MB.

I found that the MX Player did a much better job than Moboplayer, I was surprised. I think I remember Harry recommended MX recently in an Applications thread. It didn't have sound dropouts for me like Moboplayer (in fact everything about sound was better on MX for me), and while I did notice some video artifacts as it worked to keep up, the results were very satisfactory and acceptable.

1080p @ 24 fps indicated on my Sammy TV.

I'm going to try the H.264 next to see if I get hardware decoding and better results. H.264 takes software decoding. I don't think that the MSMP4 does, but that trades AAC surround for mp3 stereo.

Going to try YouTube 720p stream through the browser instead.

Edit - the app does this in 720p.
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i used Dice player and addition to the others you mentioned.

i found similar results as you with the other players (I use those as well as dice) and also with the audio inconsistencies.

bottom line, on both the mhl adapter and Media link HD, I was quite pleased. Ive not ever seen this flick but the quality looked great nonetheless.

Panasonic 50 inch plasma 3D (i have two. played just fine on both).

so, lets get Dr. G to try this file and report back?
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The video was in many ways better on the YouTube app stream @ 720p, see what you think. I didn't see the checkerboard rendering in the sky viewing _very_ close up that I saw in the software decoded avi file.

What really impressed me was the 720p to 1080p scaling that was done on the phone. I had zero complaints and I am beyond fussy about scalers.

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Do you recommend Dice over MX Player here?
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I found out more about the software decoders.

The MX Player has more decoder options. If you limit it to 1 cpu, you get the performance of the Moboplayer, so that's what's up with that.

And we know perceived details comes from color before resolution - that checkerboard coloring I complained about in both is due to a default 16 bit color space for software decoding. MX Player lets you set it to 32, and then the details match the YouTube 720p HD stream. However, it does so by pushing things to their limits and frame drop out was noticeable, as was video noise when viewed close up.

Changing fast decoding in MX Player and toggling the phone's gpu acceleration wouldn't make it go away.

This info may be helpful to the Media Link HD crowd as well, not sure.

Edit - DicePlayer is so superior to both that it's not funny. Full color, lower digital noise, and frame loss was rare and not highly perceptible at all, you had to know what to look for, and even then, rare.

If playing your content through an HDTV, listen to the man who does video for a living, marctronixx, and go with the DicePlayer. (And why didn't you tell me sooner?!? )
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very good points and follow up EM. I apologize about the tardiness of my response.

I use DICE exclusively. Been using it since the EVO 3D. it is very robust player and the dev updates it quite often. i ASSumed you knew about it and were using it too..

i have not had a chance to check out the youtube version. i will at some point tomorrow evening when i have some more time.

excellent discussion here gents....
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Since the 3D?? You probably recommended it and I spaced it, typically. LoL
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I downloaded Big Buck Bunny, avi, 1080p (thanks EM )
and played it with DicePlayer (thanks marctronixx )
on my HTC MHL and on my wireless HTC Media Link HD.

My Sony TV shows 720p with the MHL and 1080p with the Media Link.

I purchased the MHL (for my HTC Sensation) last year.
Maybe lately MHLs might be able to serve 1080p ?

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Hard to say.

Marctronixx and I show that with a proper MHL adapter and a native 1080p TV, 1080p works via MHL.

Clearly your TV is not in question.

But you also mentioned a problem with the international One X (Harry's phone for those that don't know) having a 1080p MHL issue.

Maybe you could try another adapter and the shop would let you return it if it's a One X software issue?
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I'll try an other MHL

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With my HTC Sensation connected to the HTC MHL, the TV shows 1080p !

So the question is, does my One X let serve the MHL only 720p or do this all One X generally ?

Could be a difference to the EVO 4G LTE ?
We may assume that the EVO 4G LTE with a MHL serves 1080p.

Edit: But dr g's EVO 4G LTE serves only 720p too ... or his MHL ?

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@harry,

i know Dr. G is off relaxing and is not as geeky as we are so EM and I are waiting for Dr. g to try this download and report his findings.

i think it could be his ebay adapter being an off brand mhl adapter that does not provide optimum performance--but that is just a guess at best.

what say ye dr. g (fun fact: thats What I call Dr. Sanjay Gupta when i get to work with him..)
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Harry - you proved your TV negotiates 1080p, and that your adapter can negotiate and pass 1080p. That leaves the question of the phone difference.

I noticed in the clove.co.uk vid in post 4 that they got 720p @ 60 fps also.

Maybe this is something that will be addressed in a future update, of course, no telling on that.

I've tried every combination of settings that I can think of, including changing the default video recording resolution, and can't get 720p at 60 Hz via MHL.
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Thanks for the info

Just to eliminate an other unknown in the equation, I borrowed a Samsung MHL (for the SGS2) ... and get the same deliverable as with the HTC MHL

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Downloading the bunny movie now :P
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Tried several 1080p movies. No luck on 1080 output, I think it wold need to be 1080 all the time regardless of the movie resolution, no?

I will say that Diceplayer is awesome though, really seems to leverage hardware acceleration well. I had some high bitrate mkvs I was trying on the stock player and rockplayer, and they all crapped out. Diceplayer ate it up.

Are there other alternative players to try or is Diceplayer IT?
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I'll leave that to marc, but I think Dice is it.

And yes - I'd expect 1080p connectivity at the desktop, before the player even started.
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Mayhaps I need to look into a different adaptor then... can you pictar your guys' ones?
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I use this one -

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_i d=8805&seq=1&format=2

Monoprice.com started out as the go-to place for videophiles. Their stuff is great and just works.
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Mayhaps I need to look into a different adaptor then... can you pictar your guys' ones?
Aren't there any specs at that MHL's bag or box ?

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The monoprice.com unit specs for 720p / 1080i / 1080p, 7.1 audio and hdcp, with a callout to the MHL Consortium.

dr g - if you don't mind my asking, what make and model TV are you using?
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I don't have the model offhand but it's a Samsung 24"

Looks like identical form factor for the adaptor, makes me want to open mine up and see what chips are in it.
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I don't have the model offhand but it's a Samsung 24"
Do you know its native resolution?
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I presume 1920x1080 but I need to doublecheck.

Doublechecked and verified. It's full HD.
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What cable do I need to buy to connect my LTEvo to my HD TV via the HDMI port?
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This cables are called MHL adapter.

But you could connect wireless via WiFi to your HDMI TV, with the HTC MediaLink HD

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Adapter -

For only $8.82 each when QTY 50+ purchased - Micro USB to HDMI® MHL Adapter - Black | MHL Adapters

You'll also need to provide microUSB charging to the adapter - same charger that your phone uses, in other words.

And then any standard HDMI cable.

I got all that from monoprice.com - good stuff, cheap, works great.
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I tried a genuine samsung one ... same result, 720p only.
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So adapter + cable, not just a cable? Blech...
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Adapter -

For only $8.82 each when QTY 50+ purchased - Micro USB to HDMI® MHL Adapter - Black | MHL Adapters

You'll also need to provide microUSB charging to the adapter - same charger that your phone uses, in other words.

And then any standard HDMI cable.

I got all that from monoprice.com - good stuff, cheap, works great.
I use the monoprice MHL adapter on my EVO LTE and do not connect the power charger and it works fine.
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I use the monoprice MHL adapter on my EVO LTE and do not connect the power charger and it works fine.
Wow!

I will try it, although I like that it charges, my 3D didn't really.

Do you get 1080p?
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