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Old May 26th, 2012, 05:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I found one post from a member of another forum who had the same problem. My EVO is working as expected but the only thing that is kind on bothering me is the light leakage above the home screen button. It is really only evident when the screen is showing something black.

Considering that I have no glitches at all on the phone, or at least none that I have noticed, I'm not sure if I want to take a chance of sending the phone back and possibly getting back a less than reliable replacement (maybe even a refurbished).

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Whoops. It was here. http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g-lte/176066-light-leak-home-button-pic-inside.html
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Old May 26th, 2012, 06:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I wouldn't worry about it at all. It's a known issue on almost EVERY HTC phone to date. The Hero had its screen that collected dust under it, then the Incredible had light from the bottom, along with the Evo 4g. The evo 3d has the search key that has half of it lit from the backlight on the screen at all times when the screen is active.


Light leaks are possibly the only hardware flaw HTC consistently makes, along with screen separation problems over time.
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Don't know if it will work on the new phone, but I run Screen Filter on my 3D and just keep the button lights off altogether.

Unlit buttons are a matter of personal preference, but I have no trouble finding them in the dark.

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My OG EVO had light leakage, but the new LTEvo is perfect. No light leakage at all!
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Nothing. However my Evo 3D and 4G were notorious for it.
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I haven't noticed it yet. If I get it, I'll consider it character.
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Didn't realize it was so common. I had light leak from all of the hard buttons on my EVO from day 1 too. Oh well.

Hope everyone is enjoying the new phone!
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I wouldn't worry about it at all. It's a known issue on almost EVERY HTC phone to date. The Hero had its screen that collected dust under it, then the Incredible had light from the bottom, along with the Evo 4g. The evo 3d has the search key that has half of it lit from the backlight on the screen at all times when the screen is active.


Light leaks are possibly the only hardware flaw HTC consistently makes, along with screen separation problems over time.
And I thought my 3vo was the only one!

My ltevo has no light leakage at all trust me... Was one of the first things I looked for... I'm anal about that stuff.. So no leakage for me luckily
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My OG EVO had the light leakage issue just bellow the capacitive touch buttons. LTEVO no such issue as of yet (knocks on wood
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Looks like I'm just lucky, never had any issues out of any of the Evo's I've owned...
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Looks like I'm just lucky, never had any issues out of any of the Evo's I've owned...
Very Lucky indeed.

My OG had it, not bad, but it was there. The Hero had dust, and I didn't have the 3vo long enough to really notice.

The LTE doesn't show any leakage.
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My original Evo and my 3D had no light leakage but sadly my new Evo LTE has some in the center. It's not as bad as some pictures I've seen but it's definitely noticeable on black screens.

Here is a picture of someone's light leakage that was posted on another forum:


He noticed that the one that had problems was from a box with a large security seal sticker. His 2nd Evo had a smaller sticker (we are assuming they are from 2 different assembly lines) and did not have the light leakage problem. I checked my box and it also has the larger sticker. For those of you who have the light leakage problem...do you also have the larger sticker? It would be interesting to gather a larger sample size to see if there is a direct correlation.

Here's a pic of the 2 stickers:
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My original Evo and my 3D had no light leakage but sadly my new Evo LTE has some in the center. It's not as bad as some pictures I've seen but it's definitely noticeable on black screens.

Here is a picture of someone's light leakage that was posted on another forum:
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He noticed that the one that had problems was from a box with a large security seal sticker. His 2nd Evo had a smaller sticker (we are assuming they are from 2 different assembly lines) and did not have the light leakage problem. I checked my box and it also has the larger sticker. For those of you who have the light leakage problem...do you also have the larger sticker? It would be interesting to gather a larger sample size to see if there is a direct correlation.

Here's a pic of the 2 stickers:
[Broken IMG]
Doom, I wouldn't mind seeing your source thread if you can find it (tried searching but couldn't find anything).

My first phone has the larger sticker box, very slight light leakage when looking down at an angle and dust in the screen (glued in I bet during build up). I ruminated about it for a while and finally decided to get a swap.

My second phone has the smaller box sticker (with the word void inlayed). I found it curious and remembered this thread.
The second unit very clearly has a different display manufacturer or process.

Despite the slight light leak, the first display is far superior in my eyes! The whites are white, whereas the second unit has a warm color over saturation.

On the second unit the whites are yellowy. It also has a slightly less bright backlight (thus no light leak?). I feel like I can almost see the pixel rows at times. I can sense some slight flickering in my peripheral vision sometimes (keen eyesight here). Even the info in the notification bar is different sized, especially apparent on the time readout in the upper right. Touching the screen firmly in the lower left area of the screen ripples the display Liquid. It also has a worsened viewing angle. When at an angle the screen has a reddish haze to it where on my original unit it is more or less clear at most angles.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696768
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Interesting observations. My unit has the light leakage... still debating whether to trade it in or not.
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Looks like I'm just lucky, never had any issues out of any of the Evo's I've owned...
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Doom, I wouldn't mind seeing your source thread if you can find it (tried searching but couldn't find anything).

My first phone has the larger sticker box, very slight light leakage when looking down at an angle and dust in the screen (glued in I bet during build up). I ruminated about it for a while and finally decided to get a swap.

My second phone has the smaller box sticker (with the word void inlayed). I found it curious and remembered this thread.
The second unit very clearly has a different display manufacturer or process.

Despite the slight light leak, the first display is far superior in my eyes! The whites are white, whereas the second unit has a warm color over saturation.

On the second unit the whites are yellowy. It also has a slightly less bright backlight (thus no light leak?). I feel like I can almost see the pixel rows at times. I can sense some slight flickering in my peripheral vision sometimes (keen eyesight here). Even the info in the notification bar is different sized, especially apparent on the time readout in the upper right. Touching the screen firmly in the lower left area of the screen ripples the display Liquid. It also has a worsened viewing angle. When at an angle the screen has a reddish haze to it where on my original unit it is more or less clear at most angles.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696768
Glad you found it, I was just about to go hunting for the link myself
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Glad you found it, I was just about to go hunting for the link myself
Now there's an article referencing the XDA thread also:

Some EVO 4G LTE Users Are Noticing Light Bleed Issues On A Few Units

Even though I still haven't decided, the light leak issue never really bothered me...even though I did notice it from time to time on the original EVO. Just seems like a typical issue on HTC phones.
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I've seen some pretty horrific images when I googled this problem, but others don't seem to be having what I have. In fact, the more I look into it, the less convinced I am there is a problem at all.

Here's the deal: For every color other than black (say, a white webpage!), the bottom of my screen (I'm talking the very bottom, almost under the screen plane) shows distinct lines of light. Held exactly perpendicular to the plane of vision, there is no (or very little) evidence of these lines. But tilt the phone's bottom just a little bit away from you and you'll see the lines (similar to coherent wave interference patterns in appearance). In normal use, when I am reading the top of a webpage in portrait orientation, or the left in landscape, such a position causes the fringes/ripples/lines to be visible.

I've already gotten the first LTE replaced due to a discolored band appearing on the screen, and I admit I may have been too preoccupied with that major problem to notice this minor one. Does anyone else have this issue? Don't tell me from memory; you might not have noticed. Just open a webpage (like google) on medium screen brightness and look down toward the bottom of the phone. See any waves of light?

Let me know.

PS: My camera lens (internal) appears to have been mounted a bit crooked. Anyone familiar with the optics able to tell me if this is a bad thing? I've noticed my HDR pictures have been rather blurry, but sadly I lost my means of comparison without actually doing any real comparison.
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Doesn't matter if someone else is having the same issues and it doesn't bother them, if it bothers you then you should definitely return it.
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Very true. But I want to know if all devices have them -- if it's not a "problem" and all LTE's are like that, I needn't bother myself or Sprint with another fruitless journey to the store, right?

It's fairly obvious; it's not like I have to hunt for the issue or a certain angle. When I'm in messages, the whole bottom of the input box is a bit squiggly/uneven because of the effect. I think that's the most extreme example.
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I bought this phone yesterday. Hardware Version 003.
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Dreamliner, no! That's real light leakage there in your pic! The 100% legitimate, severe, "bad" kind! I've seen that exact kind of dark-screen light leakage (the bright kind above the home key) before! It comes up online in various threads. Mine does not do that at all. Sir, get that phone replaced right away (if it bothers you) because quite frankly that ain't supposed to happen.
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I've seen some pretty horrific images when I googled this problem, but others don't seem to be having what I have. In fact, the more I look into it, the less convinced I am there is a problem at all.

Here's the deal: For every color other than black (say, a white webpage!), the bottom of my screen (I'm talking the very bottom, almost under the screen plane) shows distinct lines of light. Held exactly perpendicular to the plane of vision, there is no (or very little) evidence of these lines. But tilt the phone's bottom just a little bit away from you and you'll see the lines (similar to coherent wave interference patterns in appearance). In normal use, when I am reading the top of a webpage in portrait orientation, or the left in landscape, such a position causes the fringes/ripples/lines to be visible.

I've already gotten the first LTE replaced due to a discolored band appearing on the screen, and I admit I may have been too preoccupied with that major problem to notice this minor one. Does anyone else have this issue? Don't tell me from memory; you might not have noticed. Just open a webpage (like google) on medium screen brightness and look down toward the bottom of the phone. See any waves of light?

Let me know.
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Here's my problem: (thanks to my 2009 LEO for the pic!) Notice the first bright line at the top of the pic, which is the bottom of the phone. See the wavy/ripply/uneven lighting? That's the issue!

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1884/imag0051yy.jpg
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EarlyMon, no! If this is the case, and my device really is another dud, I suppose I shall have to exchange it again. Perhaps sometime early Mon.
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Here's my problem: (thanks to my 2009 LEO for the pic!) Notice the first bright line at the top of the pic, which is the bottom of the phone. See the wavy/ripply/uneven lighting? That's the issue!

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1884/imag0051yy.jpg
I don't have this at all whatsoever either!
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I've tried every dark screen image I have and a few light images and i don't see any signs of any light leakage at all on mine. It's perfect.
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My replacement (#2) doesn't have this problem! Nor does it have the first problem (line down the screen) or the crooked camera!

But the repacement has multiple stuck pixels! Woohoo! Either I'm incredibly, insanely unlucky, the batch my local Sprint store got are absolute crap, or the LTE has the worst build quality I've ever, ever seen in a consumer grade phone. If it happens to be the latter, the fisher-price phones my family picked up at the local flea market made from nameless chinese brands are much higher quality.

This is my third LTE, and the third with problems. The dark photography is also significantly worse in quality despite the camera looking straight. I really can't fathom why this is the case. It's like each part is made with a ~70% failure rate and lopped together in one device guaranteed to fail in some way or another on day 1.

Very, VERY sad. Maybe I should make a thread about my butthurtness? ...Naw, nobody wants to read that. ;-) But seriously, what should I do?
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If I turn my phone upside down and tilt it back similar to the angle in your picture, I can sort of see a little waviness - but since I don't use my phone that way it's definitely not a problem to me.

If you've got stuck pixels you should probably return it again, and if you're not satisfied with the next one maybe you need to look at a different phone. Not all phones are going to be a match for everyone.

Oh - and with luck like that, it might be a good idea for you to buy a lottery ticket
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Haha, good tip there about the lottery ticket. Then again, maybe my luck will somehow cause me to lose my house as a result.

The new device certainly doesn't show the problem in the pic, which was quite visible even at normal viewing angles. Like most people, I won't want a phone that isn't a good fit for me. But this isn't about the fit -- it's the sheer quantities of defective devices that keep somehow being attracted to me as if to them I am the patron of a proverbial lemonade stand. But it seems my lemony devices are incapable of producing the lemonade I so doggedly seek, and I am certainly at a loss. Bah!
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This thread made me check, damn you lol. Not really, we have two Evo Shift's, two Evo 4g's and my new Evo 4g LTE and no light leakage anywhere. Guess I have a lucky family lol.
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I swore i would never buy another light leaking htc phone again after sprint wouldnt take back my e3d that basically shone the backlight right in my face. deal breaker for me. the sgs iii has weak radios again too. so i guess ill be waiting until the next go round though i hate to miss out on lte.
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though i hate to miss out on lte.
Which doesn't exist yet. I much prefer my 10mb over WiMAX than 200kb on the EVO.

HTC gets soooooo close.
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Maybe not so close. My replacement for the dead-pixel replacement for my bubbly-light issue came with both bubbly light leak and 1-2 (maybe more) dead pixels. Not good. 4 duds in a row from one store. Then the store kicked me out. What should I do?
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Have you tried just calling Sprint?
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I don't know why you would say the galaxy 3 has weak radio. I had the EVO LTE had to exchange it four times for screen issues and wi if issues. Got the galaxy 3 and it is awesome. I had the epic touch for a year or so and the radio on the galaxy 3 is awesome no issues here.
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