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Old June 14th, 2010, 08:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Apps Loading Automatically!! How to stop this

How can a person stop apps from loading auto? Some of them are killing my battery, like the Weather Channel app, Music, Qik, sprint Navigation, mp3 store etc

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Old June 14th, 2010, 09:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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When they 'load' as you call it, they're not actively using the CPU to stay open. The OS caches the applications, that way whenever you go out to open them, it takes less resources and CPU to simply 'wake up' a sleeping app.

Keep in mind, you're probably new to Android, and you're not used to it yet. You have the same thing I had when I joined in; a Windows mindset. Just because you see it 'open' here in Android, doesn't mean it really is. The application is really just sleeping, with the memory it needs to run already stored.


Long story short, you REALLY don't need to worry about them being open, they're not killing your battery life. The only way to really see if they're doing anything bad is to use System panel from the market, it'll tell you what's using the CPU.

Till then, don't worry.
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Yup everything in the above statement is true. The apps are just sleeping, utilizing zero percentage of the CPU.
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Then please tell me, why is it when I kill this apps my battery life triples if not quadruples? Just wondering. Because if they are allowed to run I get 4 hours of battery. If I kill them I get 12-14 hours.
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Then please tell me, why is it when I kill this apps my battery life triples if not quadruples? Just wondering. Because if they are allowed to run I get 4 hours of battery. If I kill them I get 12-14 hours.
Can't say exactly River.. Which apps are you talking about? Do you have a lot of things using background data? It is possible those are the things that are killing your battery.. I don't use ATK (I had a bad experience with it on my Hero causing awake issues) and was getting decent battery life (12 to 14 hours) but I did a hard reset and a few of the battery tweaks and so far today with close to 3 hours of awake time and an uptime of 9:32 I have 73% of my battery left. Big thing changes I made was changing Facebook sync to once per day and Always on Mobile Internet unchecked.
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I'm with eggsack43 and RiverOfIce - and I'm not coming from a Windows mindset, I'm coming from a Unix mindset.

Why can't I get to the equivalent of rc.local or the latest Linux equivalent of /etc/rc.d and simply NOT start up apps I do NOT care about? And how about a nice, old-school Gnome-like GUI for that, kinda like the Gnome System Tools or even <shudder> HP-UX SAM?

Say what you want about sleep - and about Android's ability to fully park or offload an unused app - anything like that is using some resource, be it CPU, scheduling, memory or phoning home (and yes, they do that).

Here are things I'm dead certain that I will never run, ever:

Amazon MP3 store
Sprint Navigation
Sprint Football Live
Anything having to do with social networking, including Peep, Qik, Facebook
GMail - I have access to my gmail via the built-in K9 workalike (if it's not indeed K9) Mail
Music - I have Meridian, and have no use for Music, really
NASCAR Sprint Cup Mobile
RSS Reader
talk - they tell me I need this for the phone to do its thing - I've seen that argued, not sure


I draw your attention to this promo: YouTube - HTC Sense

And what is the Number One thing stressed in that presentation? That you can make the phone work the way you do.

That's not true, unless I root the thing or play other games.

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The application is really just sleeping, with the memory it needs to run already stored.
The application is really just sleeping, wasting resources for no reason whatsoever. (Fixed that for you.)

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Till then, don't worry.
I'm not worried, I'm disgusted. This is WAY more like Windows than Linux.

HTC, Sprint and Android are bound and determined to help me in ways that I do not want.

And I do not want to do low-level apk uninstalls, I don't want to root my phone.

I would love nothing better than to be shown wrong and pointed at the free app for what I want to do to control the phone - you know, one that checks dependencies so that I don't inadvertently turn off some app critical to Android or the HTC Sense running properly.

Instead, I keep seeing posts about how Android does not have the problem that it most certainly does.

I paid for the phone - what it runs should be up to me.
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Here are things I'm dead certain that I will never run, ever:

Amazon MP3 store
Sprint Navigation
Sprint Football Live
Anything having to do with social networking, including Peep, Qik, Facebook
GMail - I have access to my gmail via the built-in K9 workalike (if it's not indeed K9) Mail
Music - I have Meridian, and have no use for Music, really
NASCAR Sprint Cup Mobile
RSS Reader
talk - they tell me I need this for the phone to do its thing - I've seen that argued, not sure
Good point. I will NEVER use any of those apps except for Gmail. Everytime i look, all of those apps are always cached, and were preloaded on the Evo. I would rather the phone cache some other programs that I do use alot.
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Oy vey.. Well god speed and you all are gonna drive yourselves nuts with this. I went through this whole thing with my hero and killing apps and in the end I just stopped using task killers and my phone worked great. That is MY experience with the Hero and MY experience with the EVO. Do pay attention to some of the apps you install though because there are some crap ones out there that will destroy hour battery. Again best of luck
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best thing to do is go on this forum for the post about turning off syncing, that should help tremendously, you can do most of it by loading up "friend stream" then go to the menu button, and then settings, then accounts & sync, set everything to disabled, once per day, or every 12 hours and you will find better battery life, there are other apps to do one at a time and are listed in that post, I think they are weather, stocks, news, qik, fring, and talk. I may have missed 1 or 2 more also. additionally the app "system" from the marketplace will show you "sleeping apps" and labels them as such. it also shows you apps that are taking up active CPU cycles as well.
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SOLUTION FOUND!!!

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