I completely expect that. I had no intention of following up with them after the email I sent because I know that flipz is working on incorporating an FPS fix into his Fresh rom.
But...they sent me the email asking me to rate my experience. So I did.
I love my EVO but what I thought I was buying was a monster of hardware unleashed onto a phone and thats not what I have, so I am not likely to use HTC again. My father's next phone will be the Epic, period.
I don't buy it. Just as PCs have the option to choose their primary output (ex. Comp screen vs TV), I think this issue should be curable through a software compromise.
From what I have read so far, apparently the 30-cap must apply for the HDMI output to work. So why not have the cap disabled when the phone is operating normally, and then automatically implement the cap when the output is in use? It seems like a painfully simple and seemless workaround to me. Maybe too simple...?
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Over the past 3 days, someone representing HTC has called me around 9:30 am, 7:33 am and 7:29 am regarding my customer satisfaction survey. On the third time when he called, he left a callback number, and then said he was going to close the ticket on it since he's tried to contact me 3 times. Each time on my phone, the number they called me on showed up as 000-000-0000. I'm a shift worker and am getting my beauty sleep at 7:30. It's extremely effed up to only give me a contact number when they are closing the complaint on it. I was ready and willing to call back and discuss the issue but they made it impossible.
I tried calling back now but it didn't work, I imagine because its very late. In case anyone else wanted to raise some hell, enjoy...heres the # that was finally left for me: 1-866-449-8358
I emailed HTC about 30 FPS Cap. This is what I got back...
Dear Julian,
I understand the importance of receiving the full range of features a device can provide. Since the HTC EVO 4G employs a unique HDMI output to deliver video in HD quality to an external display, the hardware graphics driver interface on the HTC EVO 4G uses significant resources for the HDMI output and therefore displays graphics at 30 frames per second on the integrated display. This is a hardware limitation, and not software related. We have received reports of a software hack claiming to deliver grater than 30 FPS performance on the HTC EVO 4G; however, after investigating the hack, HTC has determined that the perceived frame rate increase was achieved by allowing data throughput to surpass the capability of the display interface – delivering a higher number on a benchmark test, but at the expense of image quality, which degrades to an unacceptable level as a result of data throughput surpassing the capability of the hardware. I do apologize for any inconvenience that you may have experienced.
I'd rather have a smooth scrolling interface than an HDMI port.
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Well if it really is a simple fix, as a lot of people are claiming, and the fact that the devs are wizards when it comes to this stuff, why can't they just write some code to have it switch on/off when HDMI plugged/unplugged? And make it an .apk . Wish I had more experience with Linux/Android, I'm so used to WinMO/Windows.
Give us a ****ing toggle option under settings that will allows us to un-cripple it at 'the expense of battery life decrease' or something. Even though unlocking the FPS won't affect battery life AT ALL, what ever.
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It's not that the HDMI port is limiting it, on the contrary. The HDMI port is working as-intended. THAT I can agree on with HTC. The thing I can't agree on, and where they refuse to admit that they've messed up, is that the HDMI port is still 'on' no matter what, choking EVERYTHING to 30fps. Normally, if you've got HDMI hooked up, you're gonna just play a video or stuff on the TV, and 30fps is a non-existant issue. However, when the phone needs those extra 30frames/sec in NORMAL operation, it can't display them because the HDMI port. Why doesn't the Droid X have the exact same issue as our phone, seeing as it's using the same hardware? Well, because the HDMI port isn't always 'active' and searching for an output source. It only does that once it's plugged in. What a concept! Having something turn on when you need it! Wait.... don't we do that with EVERYTHING on this phone already? The **** is the reasoning behind crippling video performance for sheer laziness?
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It's not that the HDMI port is limiting it, on the contrary. The HDMI port is working as-intended. THAT I can agree on with HTC. The thing I can't agree on, and where they refuse to admit that they've messed up, is that the HDMI port is still 'on' no matter what, choking EVERYTHING to 30fps. Normally, if you've got HDMI hooked up, you're gonna just play a video or stuff on the TV, and 30fps is a non-existant issue. However, when the phone needs those extra 30frames/sec in NORMAL operation, it can't display them because the HDMI port. Why doesn't the Droid X have the exact same issue as our phone, seeing as it's using the same hardware? Well, because the HDMI port isn't always 'active' and searching for an output source. It only does that once it's plugged in. What a concept! Having something turn on when you need it! Wait.... don't we do that with EVERYTHING on this phone already? The **** is the reasoning behind crippling video performance for sheer laziness?
Ummm, you are so WRONG! The Droid X uses OMAP processors, not Qualcomm... Different GPU's, larger internal memory buffers, different display technology, etc...
And "Crippling" takes more work than just running the hardware as is. Crippling the device means putting a 'restrictive' code in there instead of letting it just run in a native format. Restricting hardware is usually done for three simple reasons. 1) Battery life performance increase, 2) Processor performance increase or 3) Overheating/physical damage prevention. My guess is that all three of these were concerns for HTC and the poor GPU attached to the Snapdragon - and the heat generated by the 4G radio. That's why they capped the performance of the GPU or the GPU in this thing just isn't up to snuff and they had to limit it to avoid lockups.
The fact of the matter is, 30 fps "issue" is a non issue for about 95% of the EVO users. The folks at HTC designed this around Sprint's recommendations. Youtube, SprintTV, heck, even Fancast.com all run 'just fine' and look great on their 4G network - so who cares. The few complaining about it aren't going to make HTC update the firmware to possibly make the device unstable - and publishing the information about those hacking the device to make it work 'better' will only bring the company down on them - not make them fix it.
Now, that being said, would I like to see the 60 fps for gaming? Sure, but so far it's working great on every game I've thrown at it. Would I like to see the 60 fps for movies? Sure, but so far all the VGA quality stuff that I had converted from my older devices works great on it as well.
But even more than 60 fps on the screen, I would like to watch my 720p HD movies recorded on this thing on my TV? Of course!!! Wait, it only records HD at 27 fps... Where's that 30 number we all spoke of a minute ago HTC? Sprint? Hey! Dang, another skipped frame...
Can I video chat with a PC yet? I think not... Call me later... I'll be surfing my 4G connection and chatting on Facebook while talking on my bluetooth and driving down the road... lol
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The fact of the matter is, 30 fps "issue" is a non issue for about 95% of the EVO users.
I'd disagree with this statistic, especially since it sounds like you made it up.
I do agree that a lot of people don't realize that the Evo is capped at 30fps. But a lot of people I've talked to have said that the Evo does not FEEL as responsive as an iPhone or other Androids. So even though these Evo user's don't know it, what they are perceiving is the choppiness and touch-lag caused by the 30FPS cap. You notice it every time you scroll a menu. There's this feeling of an unpolished product. But for people who've never experienced a phone operating at 60FPS, they may never realize what they're missing. In that respect, I understand why you came up with that statistic.
HTC claims that the hacked kernel uncap only fools benchmark tests. This is rediculous. The difference in smoothness of UI animations and the responsiveness of the touchscreen is as different as night and day. It pains me to use my Evo without the FPS uncap anymore.
In previous posts related to this issue, I made the point that some people are FPS-challenged; that is, they can't really perceive much difference between 30FPS and 60FPS. I am convinced there are people like this, just like there are colorblind people who can't distinguish between green and red. For those of us who can make the distinction, it really is night and day.
Anyhow, I don't have high hopes of HTC ever fixing the problem for the Evo. If the framerate bothers you a lot, I recommend rooting and flashing a custom kernel that addresses the cap. My hope is that HTC knows that they kludged their HDMI support, and due to customer complaints, they don't cap the FPS on their next phone.
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Yes, I am figuring that 95% of the people that got their EVO on an upgrade were Pre or Instinct users - which out of 500k phones, would mean 25k care/know about the 30fps cap.
As someone that has been on smartphones/handhelds since 95, I have to say it's a minimal lag/issue for me. Anyone who has used smartphones for any amount of time knows that when there is a lag, turn it off and turn it back on to clear the memory and shutdown background apps that didn't terminate correctly. That's the source for your lag, not the 30fps cap.
The "feel" of the device has nothing to do with the cap, but more of the lack of a good GPU, which has been reported everywhere as a 'problem' with the Snapdragon series compared to things like the OMAP's and HummingBird's.
I have had a ton of devices over the last 15 years and I can honestly say that the EVO's video performance blows away the Samsung Moment's, Hero's and many others. While it may not score as well in a benchmark, you have to account that the Hero (which someone stated here earlier to the fact that it performed better) has 1/2 the resolution of the Evo and doesn't even run 640x480 video files without straining. The EVO runs those files perfectly...
So, before we start looking at the issue as a can't they fix it thing, look at why it's there to start with... Do they have a solid performance reason for capping it or not?
zcarman - When the opportunity presents itself again, I'd encourage you to root. I'm still plodding along with Sense, so on the surface, my phone looks stock.
I've replaced the kernel - there are a number of good selections for that, btw - and as it turns out, the fps cap and the input tracking are not tied together and both have been independently and effectively addressed in the kernel I'm using at present.
The benefits of the various processors are fun to debate but the fact is that the Snapdragon is not quite the slouch that the pundits are pushing.
The stock kernel really is kinda doggy.
FWIW - here's the kernel I'm using (or, that is, I'm using an earlier version because I've been too busy to do a simple upgrade) -
Post #42 is very interesting because it shows the OpenGL performance for the Snapdragon is quite on par with the X/OMAP3 - but below the Hummingbird in the Galaxy class.
Point is - all of these processors are already obsolete but with some under the hood finagling (because HTC/Sprint won't go there) you can get quite a bit more performance out the Evo than you might be thinking possible.
FWIW - I don't believe that they have real technical reasons to keep the kernel doggy (despite the scare letter shared above) - but they may have a profit motive to simply not invest further.
Their story keeps changing and those like myself that have taken the plunge simply haven't experienced the issues that the HTC/Sprint chicken littles claim we're in for.
I don't even mess around with overclocking - I'm not a gamer, not looking for the Nth degree of perfection - I just wanted something sustainable and snappy.
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The "feel" of the device has nothing to do with the cap, but more of the lack of a good GPU, which has been reported everywhere as a 'problem' with the Snapdragon series compared to things like the OMAP's and HummingBird's.
The fact that a custom kernel fixes both the animation choppiness AND the touchscreen responsiveness to the finger proves that the limitation was not the GPU. After all, I only changed the kernel, not my graphics processor. Yet the evo is performing much better. Scrolling is smooth, and the screen sticks to my finger much better. There are youtube videos showing this very clearly.
HTC thus far has not been honest about why the firmware cap is in place. In fact, they deny that a cap even exists and that the apparent 30fps is a hardware limitation. If that were true, I would see no difference in my UI animations pre- and post-custom kernel. Clearly the limitation is somewhere in the firmware, not the hardware. If HTC won't admit that, then we will never identify the reason why the cap was imposed.
The other interesting point to note is that with the FPS uncapped, I see no observable degradation in battery life. Nor do I see any increase in CPU usage. So that would eliminate capping the FPS due to potential overtaxed CPU.
The most logical explanation remains that HTC made the quick and dirty cap to support HDMI. I have no doubt that the more elegant solution, capping the FPS only when HDMI is in use (which is what the custom kernels are doing) is the proper implementation, and I hope to see HTC do this in their future phones.
I concur - my battery life is great with a replacement kernel, the processor speed times (including by percentage) are completely rational, and I am not in fear of compromising my processor lifetime or my overall handset reliability with this configuration.
a bit off topic, but does installing the kernel void your warranty?
I'm one of those people bothered by the lack of smoothness, and how the screen doesnt quite stick to my finger like the iphone does and am really curious just how much difference a new kernel will make, and the consequences of having that.
In order to install a different kernel you need to root the phone - rooting is the part that voids the warranty.
The superuser account name on any unix variant is called root - as the root user, you're free to configure the system however you prefer. This is identical in concept to having Administrator privileges on a Windows PC.
For all intents and purposes, Sprint owns root on your phone as opposed to you. They don't like people changing that, so they void the warranty.
There's no real danger to being root - except for the bozo cases where someone decides the point of root is to destructively remove essential processes and then whine to Sprint to fix it. (And you can make your phone equally goofy just using a task killer abusively, so it's really not something to loose sleep over, in my opinion.)
You can also back root out and never be detected. Theoretically, you can root, and back out and still have warranty coverage. In my case, I thought in the back of my mind that made a good safety net. Instead, I so prefer the advantages of root, I've emailed Sprint's CEO that I'm rooted and so there's no question in anyone's eyes that I have nothing to hide and prefer my freedom over my warranty fears. You'll have to let your conscience guide you on what's right for you.
But back on topic - yes - with the right configuration, input tracking is vastly improved. That really and truly is a separate part of the code, but because of how things are architected, it gets tied topically to the fps cap.
Here's a vid made by jmxp69 - he's a kernel developer and so all of his posts in this thread you can accept as "from the horse's mouth" - iow, firsthand _knowledge_ as opposed to secondhand info (such as myself) -
The vid in the first post shows some fps stuff, and other posts of his on that first page tells the _true_ story of what does and doesn't relate to the HDMI port, as well as provide the negative comparison of the stock EVO to Droid X (and uncripped Nexus One, that runs our same processor (variation only due to GSM vs. CDMA radio controller)).
In your case, ShoxV, you'll want to pay particular attention to the video in post 53 on the second page of that thread - it shows the finger tracking - with a comparison of custom to stock.
Don't be discouraged about stories of things not working in custom kernels. That varies by custom kernel and these last two months have nearly been an eternity in kernel development and evolution - the kernel devs at XDA are really quite excellent. (_Everything_ works on my phone, in other words.)
And a final note on 30 vs. 60 fps - 60 fps is _not necessarily_ the holy grail.
Virtually everything you've seen in any American theater - and virtually every movie you might have on Blu-ray - is at 24 fps. The only time you'll actually see 720p at 60 fps is when you're watching an HDTV channel dedicated to that performance - typically, that's the realm of sports broadcasts (or your own _higher quality_ HD camcorder).
Even DVD movies are 60 _fields_ per second - the result of telecine processing of a progressive 24 fps source into the NTSC interlaced field spec of 60 Hz.
That means that if your concern is movies, anything in the 30 fps is aok - not because that's all the eye can see as HTC claims, but because that's what our movie source material typically does.
If you're a purist, then 60 fps is the ATSC holy grail. If you're a more typical user, then 30 fps for 2D content is completely sufficient.
If you're a true gamer with a hardcore Windows PC setup, you already have a gonzo system set up for 90 fps and beyond, with 120 fps not being uncommon.
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As a tech junkie, I have to agree with you guys on this. I mean, how much did XDA do for Windows Mobile or some of the BB coders do for the BlackBerry community. They are always releasing better quality software than the manufacturers - partly because they don't have the restrictions from the carriers.
I think the point I was trying to make is that Sprint, not known for their cutting edge hardware has 500k of these things out there. More than likely, 450k of these went to Mom, Dad and Junior on the family plan for $150 a month and they don't care that the swipe animation is a bit choppy or that the device isn't as fast as it could be with some tweaking. Most of the people that came on board are recovering from the poor-performing Pre, and look at the larger screen and the number of apps and just smile.
Again, I'm not defending HTC since the device is obviously capable of performing, but saying that they aren't throttling the device for a reason is simply guessing. They have said the cap is in place due to the hardware limitations of the HDMI port. Is this true? Doubtful since others have proven this wrong, but maybe they know something the programmers at HTC don't. Of course, maybe they found in testing that if they run the GPU at 60fps and 4G data, the battery lasted 30 minutes. So their answer was to dial back the power to the GPU and cut it to "What the human eye can see", cut the signal strength to WiFi and limit the camcorder to 24fps and the battery can go 4 hours.
While to the demanding 'perfect phone lovers' of the world want an answer to this, I still stand by my original thought that most users could care less about it since the phone shows their movies, plays their games and is the first 4G device on the market - even if it is slower than Verizon's 3G network in most places around here... lol
Thanks for the insight though, you have a ton of great data about the cap - and it's all a great bunch of info!
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I recently recieved an email back from HTC about my questioning of the 30fps limitation on my htc evo 4g. It read " The HTC Evo 4G uses significant resources for the HDMI output and therefore displays graphics at 30 frames per second on the integrated display. This a hardware limitation" I know this can be fixed. Look at what Motorola did with the DROID X, they have an HDMI output and that phone easily crushes the 30fps and most of the time hits 60fps. And look at one of your own products the DROID Incredible, that phone also goes above 30fps. I know that increasing the fps also decreases battery life but the DROID incredible has a smaller battery than the EVO and runs more fps yet has about the same battery life for the battery size it has. If battery life drainage is really a huge concern, cant there be a performance mode for the phone to run higher FPS? Also the human eye emails that I've read about that HTC has sent to others wondering about the 30fps cap, i can see my father's samsung galaxy S run more fps just by looking at it with my human eye side by side compared to my evo. I would like to know any other reasons as to why this fps cap on the evo cannot be fixed or OTA updated.
It can be fixed, VERY easily... I rooted yesterday actually for the EXACT reason of the current sh%$ty framerate cap. I have no decreased battery life, my phone doesn't run slower, the HDMI out works fine, and, guess what, so far HTC has been 100% wrong as to why it's there stock. They just don't know what they're doing...
Plus one on that, HTC has been deemed next to useless for me... they never fix glaring issues and leave us hanging. I've got the rope, and I'm using it now.
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The frame rate fix and the audio fix (with some audio gain) on 2.2.
I'm using the latest Fresh-rom and netarchy's kernel that is compatible with it. I had zero problems, but it takes a little while if you aren't into rooting all your phones. I used the guide to root 2.2 over at Xda and flashed the latest fresh rom and netarchy's compatible kernel. Everything works great. Wifi, 4g, Bluetooth. No problems so far. Don't be intimated to root, just follow the guides. The smoothness of the frame rate is beautiful now. The audio sounds amazing. My phone runs like a dream with no sprint bloatware. I can't go back.
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Don't be intimidated to root, just follow the guides. The smoothness of the frame rate is beautiful now....--audio sounds amazing...--phone runs like a dream with no...--I can't go back.
Can't agree with that more, and I'm running different stuff that provides exactly that, lol.
I can make a case for the necessity of stock 60 FPS. I almost converted a friend of mine to make the switch from his iPhone 3Gs to the Evo. But after playing with my Evo (stock at the time), he kept complaining about how choppy things were.
I had no clue what he was talking about, since most of my experience up to that point had been exclusively the Evo. But once he handed over his iPhone, I immediately saw what he was talking about. The UI was perfectly smooth, and it tracked your finger very precisely. In a word, the presentation was simply POLISHED. Granted this is a largely cosmetic issue, but it goes a long way toward the overall presentation. And I have no doubt that the average Joe, who could care less about tech specs and rooting were to play with a stock Evo and any iPhone side-by-side, they'd say the iPhone was so much "faster."
I played with the Samsung Epic 4G yesterday. It is super smooth with excellent finger tracking. Why do HTC phones have to settle? I really hope that HTC's next flagship phone is not nerfed like this.
Whatever reason HTC had for making the decision to cap the FPS, the Evo devs have PROVEN that it wasn't a necessary decision, as evidenced by netarchy's FPS fix that's in pretty much all custom ROMs now. Therefore, HTC should not have to make the same decision again for a future phone.
The frame rate fix and the audio fix (with some audio gain) on 2.2.
I'm using the latest Fresh-rom and netarchy's kernel that is compatible with it. I had zero problems, but it takes a little while if you aren't into rooting all your phones. I used the guide to root 2.2 over at Xda and flashed the latest fresh rom and netarchy's compatible kernel. Everything works great. Wifi, 4g, Bluetooth. No problems so far. Don't be intimated to root, just follow the guides. The smoothness of the frame rate is beautiful now. The audio sounds amazing. My phone runs like a dream with no sprint bloatware. I can't go back.
Can you post up a link for instructions on how to root step by step?
Can you post up a link for instructions on how to root step by step?
Wait until unrevoked 3.2 is released again, I used it for my replacement evo that came with stock 2.2. Very simple, just install the drivers and then run the program and you have full root within minutes. They took it down because some people had issues, but it should be back soon.
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Wait until unrevoked 3.2 is released again, I used it for my replacement evo that came with stock 2.2. Very simple, just install the drivers and then run the program and you have full root within minutes. They took it down because some people had issues, but it should be back soon.
Yeah Im waiting and waiting and waiting some more. And I cant wait.
htc has said that its a hardware limitation just root and install a kernel problem solved i know people will say i shouldnt have to root but thats how it is if you dont like it dont complain or get a different phone.
htc has said that its a hardware limitation just root and install a kernel problem solved i know people will say i shouldnt have to root but thats how it is if you dont like it dont complain or get a different phone.
HTC should make an announcement that the FPS has been unlocked on the EVO and then link to XDA's website to root. lol
For people who have not rooted, there is a huge difference in the way the device runs after unlocking the 30fps. It feels like the screens are on air and they just float on by.
I got to play with a stock EVO the other day, and boy did it feel like laggy crap!
For people who have not rooted, there is a huge difference in the way the device runs after unlocking the 30fps. It feels like the screens are on air and they just float on by.
I got to play with a stock EVO the other day, and boy did it feel like laggy crap!
This has been my experience as well. Yet some people I know swear that they don't see a difference. I am convinced some people can't distinguish between 30fps and 60fps the same way some people can't distinguish between green and red. Sometimes it's just genetics. Poor people
And even if you can't see the difference in FPS, the improved tracking is night and day.
Note the tracking at 1:20 - 1:32 (before uncap) and 2:16 - 2:28 (after uncap).
Impressive. I know this is in the wrong subforum, but will this be possible for example when unrevoked3 comes back to root stock 2.2, or does it require a custom ROM? I guess in other words, can you run a custom kernel with the stock ROM?
Impressive. I know this is in the wrong subforum, but will this be possible for example when unrevoked3 comes back to root stock 2.2, or does it require a custom ROM? I guess in other words, can you run a custom kernel with the stock ROM?
rooted stock rom with custom kernel will get you the FPS/tracking fix. See my sig.
I just finished flashing netarchy's fix. All I have to say is WOW!! Such a huge difference. The transition animations look like they're floating on the screen. I didn't think I would notice this much of a difference. It's literally like a completely different phone. I really hope HTC comes out with an official fix and soon.
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rooted stock rom with custom kernel will get you the FPS/tracking fix. See my sig.
Oh my, yes, that was REALLY annoying stock. It seems as though the finger tracking issue is 100% related to the FPS lockout at 30, who would've guessed? To make this even better, HTC is continuing to say that it's not related to that, at all. How come now that I'm running 60fps my finger movements are tracked spot on on-screen?
They need to get off their high horse, accept help from the community (XDA in general), and get this ****in' phone fixed. NOW. We shouldn't HAVE to root to get it to perform as intended.
If I went out and bought a Nissan 370z brand new off-the-lot right now, only to find out that 3 of the 6 cylinders were firing to 'save gas', and have to go get the engine rebuilt, I would be FURIOUS. I am furious still at HTC for pulling this shit with the Evo and then not saying anything about it, then blatantly lieing to us. For one thing, I've actually got HELLA better battery life over stock, even with the framerate unlocked, which according to HTC, should drain my battery twice as fast by making the GPU work twice as hard. I think not, because before rooting, the phone was still running 60fps, but just throwing out half the frames.
HTC should make an announcement that the FPS has been unlocked on the EVO and then link to XDA's website to root. lol
For people who have not rooted, there is a huge difference in the way the device runs after unlocking the 30fps. It feels like the screens are on air and they just float on by.
I got to play with a stock EVO the other day, and boy did it feel like laggy crap!
they have said they looked into it but they are not gonna use it for some reason not sure why cant remember.
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Oh my, yes, that was REALLY annoying stock. It seems as though the finger tracking issue is 100% related to the FPS lockout at 30, who would've guessed? To make this even better, HTC is continuing to say that it's not related to that, at all. How come now that I'm running 60fps my finger movements are tracked spot on on-screen?
They need to get off their high horse, accept help from the community (XDA in general), and get this ****in' phone fixed. NOW. We shouldn't HAVE to root to get it to perform as intended.
If I went out and bought a Nissan 370z brand new off-the-lot right now, only to find out that 3 of the 6 cylinders were firing to 'save gas', and have to go get the engine rebuilt, I would be FURIOUS. I am furious still at HTC for pulling this shit with the Evo and then not saying anything about it, then blatantly lieing to us. For one thing, I've actually got HELLA better battery life over stock, even with the framerate unlocked, which according to HTC, should drain my battery twice as fast by making the GPU work twice as hard. I think not, because before rooting, the phone was still running 60fps, but just throwing out half the frames.
this makes me pretty pumped to root.
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Once rooted and the replacement kernal installed, does the HDMI port still work?
Yes, unless you are on CM6 ROM which has no 4G / FM Radio / HDMI Out. It is the only true AOSP (Android Open Source Project) Rom you can put on your EVO. It has absolutely no Sense and it pure Android.
Even without offering those 3 features yet, it is still one of the most preferred roms out there.
I believe all of the Sense Roms offer HDMI out and all the other standard Evo features.
When Sprint announced their first ever 4G handset at CTIA in March 2010, they dropped a bombshell on the mobile world. The HTC Evo 4G is a device that introduces a lot of firsts when compared to other North American handsets. This is the first Andr... Read More
. Wish I had more experience with Linux/Android, I'm so used to WinMO/Windows.
