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Old June 25th, 2010, 03:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What are the odds that the image quality gets improved for both the camera and video when we get 2.2?
Both are fine for viewing small but are really lousy when filling a 17" or greater screen.

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What are the odds that the image quality gets improved for both the camera and video when we get 2.2?
Both are fine for viewing small but are really lousy when filling a 17" or greater screen.
Somewhere between slim and nil
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Can't imagine how it looks on HDMI out to a 50" plasma
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Old June 25th, 2010, 03:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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outputting to a 34inch hdtv was awesome for me personally, people watching commented on how great it looked
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What are the odds that the image quality gets improved for both the camera and video when we get 2.2?
Both are fine for viewing small but are really lousy when filling a 17" or greater screen.
The camera is likely a hardware issue, dealing with the sensor and the optics. It may be possible to refine it thru software, but I imagine it's limited by the hardware.
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For being a ******* PHONE! lol yeah it looks pretty badass...
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the problem is the codecs that the camera mode uses not the lense
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Is it possible to change codecs or is that built into hardware or firmware?
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in a neophyte but i dont see why a developer couldnt put a better codec in a custom ROM
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Is it possible to change codecs or is that built into hardware or firmware?

Do not know what these folks did but in computers codecs are software and can be updated and are all the time.
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The layer responsible in Android is called PacketVideo - and it has limitations.

http://www.packetvideo.com/resources/OpenCORE_brochure.pdf

There's a competitor called CoreCodec that's been working at getting their stuff to play with Android since Apr 2009. According to one of their team, they expect the architectural changes for 2.2 will allow them to bind in their stuff in a way that they feel is appropriate.

That's doesn't mean a codec change on 2.2 from day one.

As for codecs making it out to computers - two things: 1) playback: you already have H.264 playback on an EVO for 720p at 24 fps - movie rates, pretty good for any phone, and 2) record: the best your computer has built in, if it has one at all, is probably the same as the phone's - H.263 for video conferencing.

The recording is truly crippled by the MPEG4 Part 2 codec, as opposed to MPEG4 Part 10 (H.264).

However - the EVO sensor and lens aren't particularly crappy - the main problem is the limited codec.

Competitors do have better sensors and lenses in some cases. A codec change won't fix that. For that, you just have to learn to live with disappointment.

Or to simply learn to work around it in your filming style.
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The camera is likely a hardware issue, dealing with the sensor and the optics. It may be possible to refine it thru software, but I imagine it's limited by the hardware.
Fail. The still photos show quite clearly there is no sensor or optics deficit, as far as absolute image quality.
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I'm less concerned about the image quality and more concerned with the fact that if anything is moving in front of the camera it provides nearly useless video. It's HORRIBLE!! Like filming the matrix or something.

This is almost a deal breaker for me. The droid does not have 4g and video chat which is a deal breaker and the samsung doesn't have a flash (camera), 4g and is not an attractive phone to me (also a deal breaker) or I'd be shopping for a new phone.
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I'm less concerned about the image quality and more concerned with the fact that if anything is moving in front of the camera it provides nearly useless video.
Not true at all, I have shot lots of video with moving subjects and it's fine.
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I downloaded some video podcasts and they looked phenomenal on a big screen.
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Not true at all, I have shot lots of video with moving subjects and it's fine.

I have absolutely NO reason to lie. I have videos that are worse.

Indoor lighting + moving objects = useless. Even worse with no sunlight to help.

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