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today my gmail account was hacked and spam was sent from me to my entire email contact list.

here were the suspect IP's, and the message was about viagra pills. embarrassing to say the least.

Mobile Romania (89.37.187.9) 5:47 pm (1 hour ago)

Mobile United States (CA) (173.117.223.143) 12:16 pm (6 hours ago)


I have a very complex password and am a web developer that is very anal about privacy and security. had gmail for years, and just got the evo, and then this happens days later. not pleased at all.

has this happened to anybody else?

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What makes you think it had something to do with the EVO other than that it was coincidental timing?
Spammers are usually pretty good with proxies too, those addresses probably aren't anywhere close to the truth
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Change your Gmail password. This has nothing to do with your Evo.

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This might not be related to this issue, but I figured to throw it anyways.

I noticed a lot of spam coming to one of my email account since I've had the evo. I would think that some apps would sell your email account when you register it. That's why I use an entirely different email for registering apps or anything requiring an email account to register and will not put any personal or work email accounts at risk.
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Spammers are usually pretty good with proxies too, those addresses probably aren't anywhere close to the truth
Yeah setting up a proxy is childs play. Also, since your gmail got compromised, and if your password is up to snuff like you say it is, then more than likely it wasn't brute forced either. So your either looking at a phishing scam(browser hijack etc) or one of the machines you use to access gmail has a keylogger trojan.

-my advice as a former "hacker"... do a complete rollback of at least 60 days on any/every machine you own. Then create a new windows user account, and xfer the files you need saved, and delete the old winuser account.

Then go to start> winconfig. Disable everything not vital to running windows. (Graphics drivers, etc) if winconfig is corrupt, you've been hit by a nasty and a full wipe may be in order. (Every situation is different)

If you can't rollback, then a complete wipe is in order. To prevent yourself from being infected again, download a registry startup monitor, that allows you to see and alert you when a registry change is being attempted regarding startup. If you don't recognize the change at hand, don't allow it, and the virus won't be allowed to start with boot. If your unsure of the process name, google it. Most legit processes have some documentation, as well as malware. If it is malware, do a thorough search on your pc and manually remove said process.

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Yeah setting up a proxy is childs play. Also, since your gmail got compromised, and if your password is up to snuff like you say it is, then more than likely it wasn't brute forced either. So your either looking at a phishing scam(browser hijack etc) or one of the machines you use to access gmail has a keylogger trojan.

-my advice as a former "hacker"... do a complete rollback of at least 60 days on any/every machine you own. Then create a new windows user account, and xfer the files you need saved, and delete the old winuser account.

Then go to start> winconfig. Disable everything not vital to running windows. (Graphics drivers, etc) if winconfig is corrupt, you've been hit by a nasty and a full wipe may be in order. (Every situation is different)

If you can't rollback, then a complete wipe is in order. To prevent yourself from being infected again, download a registry startup monitor, that allows you to see and alert you when a registry change is being attempted regarding startup. If you don't recognize the change at hand, don't allow it, and the virus won't be allowed to start with boot. If your unsure of the process name, google it. Most legit processes have some documentation, as well as malware. If it is malware, do a thorough search on your pc and manually remove said process.

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F that... I'd format everything I had

Can you tell us what types of porgrams you had running on your evo? Any sideloaded apps? Any warez?
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My wife has the Droid Incredible and one evening she noticed she could not check her email on the phone and that all her email accounts the password was changed...

Luckily we were able to get back into them by the lost password option and security questions. We have no idea how it changed, plus we both use Macs so no viruses on the computers, and on her phone she had one of those virus scanners, so we think the phone someone did something as well....
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As a matter of fact, how about you list all of your apps.
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This happened to a friend of mine last month. She has a dumb phone. Emails get hacked all the time
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today my gmail account was hacked and spam was sent from me to my entire email contact list.

here were the suspect IP's, and the message was about viagra pills. embarrassing to say the least.

Mobile Romania (89.37.187.9) 5:47 pm (1 hour ago)

Mobile United States (CA) (173.117.223.143) 12:16 pm (6 hours ago)


I have a very complex password and am a web developer that is very anal about privacy and security. had gmail for years, and just got the evo, and then this happens days later. not pleased at all.

has this happened to anybody else?
It happened to me also, the same exact thing. Then Google sent me an e-mail telling me my account was compromised. Very embarrasing
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guess this is why my coworker uses a 36 character algorithim for all of his passwords...and he changes it weekly.

still laugh at my friends who use the same password for everything.
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Same thing happened to me. Never happened before. Spam was sent to all of my contacts. I woke up one morning to my Evo telling me it couldn't sync my Google account. I log in on my computer and saw a message from Google that my account had been compromised and that I had to change my password. Don't think it's Evo related but it was odd it only occurred after I started using it. Security hole somewhere?
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thats crazy alot of people are reporting it... makes me think i should go about another way of using my gmail on my evo
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GMail has been being hacked into for months now, just Google it.
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this is getting scary! uhh how to prevent?
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I'm getting a little nervous myself. I have noticed a few more spams that the filter isn't catching lately.
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Luckily we were able to get back into them by the lost password option and security questions. We have no idea how it changed, plus we both use Macs so no viruses on the computers, and on her phone she had one of those virus scanners, so we think the phone someone did something as well....
Lmao @ people really beleiving macs are somehow magically virus free. If you learned the truth(which is macs are more vulnerable to hacks and malware than windows. Tested & proved, many times. Google it.) you wouldn't touch a mac with sensitive informations.

And here's something I just thought of. Are you guys rooted? Maybe its the root hack itself that's doing this.


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still laugh at my friends who use the same password for everything.
Damn..... now that's crazy sauce. I have a list of passwords I selectivey rotate, phase in and phase out, and retire after x uses. They range from 4 characters to 14 characters, depending on the password requirements/limitations etc. If you have a series of 8 digits, numbers and letters, and rotate them on a regular basis, it is damn near impossible to brute force. So other methods of retrieval are needed. If those other methods are successful, it doesn't matter if your password is abc123 or kslfjsjfhei&#*@@(##2818kk2k2k29s9, it's as easy as copy and paste.

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^^^ i would listen to that guy, if he doesnt know what he talking about id be shocked because it really sounds like he does. if he is lying then he should become a politician
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I can't tell you how many apps i refused to install because it asked for phone or something privlidges and i said what for? no thanks.

I have noticed sync errors on my chrome (looking at it now) but i assumed that was cause the evo was logging in and only one can be logged in at a time? Also noticed a few more spams but they seemed to have slowed down/stopped.

this is why i didn't install that rock player or whatever its called. list your apps please.
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This happened to my wife WAY before she got a smart phone. All of her contacts were spammed about a Chinese electronics site. All of the contacts were also deleted. Her password didn't change so she didn't completely lose the account.

Living in the cloud is quite dangerous
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Lmao @ people really beleiving macs are somehow magically virus free. If you learned the truth(which is macs are more vulnerable to hacks and malware than windows. Tested & proved, many times. Google it.) you wouldn't touch a mac with sensitive informations.

And here's something I just thought of. Are you guys rooted? Maybe its the root hack itself that's doing this.


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Another reason they think Macs are virus free, is because Windows OS has a far more market share. So people tend to exploit Windows rather than waste time with Macs.


EDIT: Just checked my Gmail app, only 6 emails so far, 2 game purchases, 2 refunded messages, and that iPhone plunger stand I sent to myself :P. Had the phone since release day.
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You're not using your gmail on an open network at a Starbucks or something, right?
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And here's something I just thought of. Are you guys rooted? Maybe its the root hack itself that's doing this.


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Macs are magically virus free (no known viruses in the wild). Why? Because OSX has not been targeted by any virus devs - they are too busy wrecking Windows. That doesn't make OSX any better more or secure than Windows, it just makes us Mac users lucky that Apple has a small enough market share that "hackers" don't find it worthwhile to make OSX viruses. There are a few OSX trojans out there though, so we still need to be careful what we download.
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Macs are magically virus free (no known viruses in the wild). Why? Because OSX has not been targeted by any virus devs - they are too busy wrecking Windows. That doesn't make OSX any better more or secure than Windows, it just makes us Mac users lucky that Apple has a small enough market share that "hackers" don't find it worthwhile to make OSX viruses. There are a few OSX trojans out there though, so we still need to be careful what we download.
And with apple making more and more headlines, its only a matter of time before a mac killer virus/worm/trojan is released, and ravages through macs connected to the web. When this happens, it will be much worse than what happens on windows, as macs don't have counter measures against them.

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My Grandpa/Grandma's Outlook Email did the same thing about a month ago.

I don't believe it's linked to the phone. Possible, but not likely.

I would laugh my ass off if iOS got a mass virus.

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today my gmail account was hacked and spam was sent from me to my entire email contact list.

here were the suspect IP's, and the message was about viagra pills. embarrassing to say the least.

Mobile Romania (89.37.187.9) 5:47 pm (1 hour ago)

Mobile United States (CA) (173.117.223.143) 12:16 pm (6 hours ago)


I have a very complex password and am a web developer that is very anal about privacy and security. had gmail for years, and just got the evo, and then this happens days later. not pleased at all.

has this happened to anybody else?
I am sorry to hear that. This is EXACTLY the reason that I did not want all of my contact's information tied to a gmail account and spent the time typing all of my contact info into the phone by hand. I realize that security is pretty good with a gmail account, but hearing about your situation tells me that my instincts were correct. I would rather not have every phone number, email address, and other pieces of personal information of friends and family tied to a gmail account that could potentially be compromised.

I hope they found out how that was done and take steps to correct it so that it does not happen to other folks.
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List all of your apps, there might be one you all have in common.
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Did you check your Sent Items folder to see if they were really sent from your account? Even when I send messages with my Evo they show up in my Sent Mail folder.

For about a year, users at my office have been getting spoofed emails. They were even receiving the bounce back messages from invalid accounts. I have a pretty decent spam filter in place and I'm certain that none of our accounts were hacked.

The fact that they've sent them to everyone in your contacts is pretty suspect though. I can't imagine how else they got that information other than hacking your account, but I could be wrong.
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Probably a big possibility is public wifi. I haven't tested it with the Evo, but your regular desktop email client (outlook, outlook express, etc.) sends your username and password in clear text when it does a send/receive. It's not real hard to stick a network sniffer on the public wifi and get everybody's email info.
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Luckily we were able to get back into them by the lost password option and security questions. We have no idea how it changed, plus we both use Macs so no viruses on the computers, and on her phone she had one of those virus scanners, so we think the phone someone did something as well....
lol gotta love it we use macs so no viruses what a joke
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As a matter of fact, how about you list all of your apps.

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LOL so any of you with your GMAIL hacked going to list your APPS? I would love to see this too. If you dont know what the APP is and if it doesnt have any decent reviews i wouldnt download it. Also you might have a better chance of survival with APPS from APPBRAIN as they filter stuff though nothing is guaranteed. As you install APPS the APP will tell you what it has access too. Make sure you know what access your giving it. Also i would not install apps not atleast approved by the APP Market or APPBRAIN.
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You know the one that makes me mad the most and has access to all of your phone is Facebook!!!!!
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You know the one that makes me mad the most and has access to all of your phone is Facebook!!!!!
I agree! I've been considering loosing that app and just browsing the sites mobile and full versions from the phone. Don't need the crappy app or anything more than texting to update a status, add friends, etc...

also, a lot of email contacts for gmail came from my FB list, wonder if that's true for the people with gmail suspicions. FB also been getting hacked like crazy for a while now. someone tried to access my acct from INDIA yesterday. FB killed it though, and I had to re-validate the acct.
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This might not be related to this issue, but I figured to throw it anyways.

I noticed a lot of spam coming to one of my email account since I've had the evo. I would think that some apps would sell your email account when you register it. That's why I use an entirely different email for registering apps or anything requiring an email account to register and will not put any personal or work email accounts at risk.
yup, that's what I do
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I basically just use my Gmail account for my contacts syncing, Voice, and maybe a few sites like this one. I get next to no spam and have nobody hacking into my account. Sucks that it happens to people though
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You know the one that makes me mad the most and has access to all of your phone is Facebook!!!!!
If Facebook's appalling privacy is news to you, well welcome to a few years ago.
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If Facebook's appalling privacy is news to you, well welcome to a few years ago.
lol its not new news to me by all means. It sucks we cant easily un-install it.
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Damn..... now that's crazy sauce. I have a list of passwords I selectivey rotate, phase in and phase out, and retire after x uses. They range from 4 characters to 14 characters, depending on the password requirements/limitations etc. If you have a series of 8 digits, numbers and letters, and rotate them on a regular basis, it is damn near impossible to brute force. So other methods of retrieval are needed. If those other methods are successful, it doesn't matter if your password is abc123 or kslfjsjfhei&#*@@(##2818kk2k2k29s9, it's as easy as copy and paste.

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The best password doesn't mean crap if your security question is weak. I got hacked through phishing on a forum, but the hacker got into my gmail through my security question. So check that and change it to a secure password as well.
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F that... I'd format everything I had

Can you tell us what types of porgrams you had running on your evo? Any sideloaded apps? Any warez?
stock apps. robo defense (my wife loves that game), and a flashlight app. thats it.

and i am on a mac, not a pc.
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btw... uhh question. is it because of rooted phones?
phone is not rooted.
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Did you check your Sent Items folder to see if they were really sent from your account? Even when I send messages with my Evo they show up in my Sent Mail folder.

For about a year, users at my office have been getting spoofed emails. They were even receiving the bounce back messages from invalid accounts. I have a pretty decent spam filter in place and I'm certain that none of our accounts were hacked.

The fact that they've sent them to everyone in your contacts is pretty suspect though. I can't imagine how else they got that information other than hacking your account, but I could be wrong.

thx. yes they were all sent from my gmail account. verified by checking sent mail. it was sending in groups of 10, alphabetically starting from the top. cool part was that gmail stopped it and locked the account after the third email it sent. the fourth email, gmail flagged as sender spam, and shut it down.
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My account has not been hacked but I am receiving much spam on it. I only use it for the EVO related functions and never send email to anyone using it. The email address would not be something that would be easily guessed such as sales@, service@, support@, etc. I am convinced that one of the apps is using it for spam or has sold the address.

Not a big deal though as it is not my primary email address and thus far all spam has been filtered by Google.
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And with apple making more and more headlines, its only a matter of time before a mac killer virus/worm/trojan is released, and ravages through macs connected to the web. When this happens, it will be much worse than what happens on windows, as macs don't have counter measures against them.

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Yes, this is true. Macs don't have some special virus force field. But what IS true is that nobody has really spent a lot of time developing a virus for them (yet). When they do, it'll be a disaster... but the point is that nobody really HAS yet.

So for an average computer user to say "my computer is a mac so it doesn't have any viruses"... well, right NOW that's accurate to say. Not sure why you felt the need to correct the person that said that because there was nothing to correct.
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Yes, this is true. Macs don't have some special virus force field. But what IS true is that nobody has really spent a lot of time developing a virus for them (yet). When they do, it'll be a disaster... but the point is that nobody really HAS yet.

So for an average computer user to say "my computer is a mac so it doesn't have any viruses"... well, right NOW that's accurate to say. Not sure why you felt the need to correct the person that said that because there was nothing to correct.
Macs, like Linux, can in theory get viruses - it's just much harder to do given the unix underpinnings - especially process management - of those operating systems.

For a short while, Apple distributed the best 3rd party anti-virus program it could find, free, to all .Mac (now called MobileMe) users.

Like any anti-virus program, it tried to become an executive monitor - and in its attempt to override the normal system mechanisms, it quickly became virus-like in the widespread instabilities it caused. It was pulled down, we all dropped it and haven't looked back.

Much as the Windows community and virus/anti-virus industries like to proclaim that it's the small numbers non-win machines that have allowed them to escape the wrath of hackers, the plain and simple truth is that every jerk would love to be the one to proclaim to his haxoz buddies that he cracked OS X.

The other plain and simple truth is that unix systems are simply much, much tougher to infect.

The whole by-the-numbers argument applied to the classic OS (bye bye almost a decade ago), so guys, get with the program.

The best thing that Redmond could ever do would be to do what Apple did - admit that the whole infrastructure is just freaking wrong, gut it completely, and replace it with unix.

The roots of the Darwin/unix underpinning OS X is a combination of:
  • modified Mach microkernel
  • OpenBSD - the security standard in the industry
  • NetBSD - the part of BSD upon which the internet was founded
  • FreeBSD - the part of BSD that formed the basis for interoperability

There are security exploits to be found for OS X - plenty of them. You have to actually know what you're doing and how a system works to get to them - something lacking in the skill set of most virus writers - and users typically have to be using their system in some wide-open fashion to suffer from them.

Macs aren't protected by a virus force field - they're simply naturally immune. Windows machines, on the other hand, are naturally weak and the whole meme that Macs will somehow fall prey should their numbers ever get large enough is part of the Redmond reality distortion field (and yes, both sides have them).

As for it being a disaster waiting to happen - yeah, fine, whatever you guys want to believe.

While MS has taken over the server market for the web (just a short time back, that was all unix), I'd wager the best and most important sites are not invested in that technology.

By the time that OS X is overtaken with viruses, so too will large parts of the internet that you care most about - that will be the disaster.

Opinions do not equal facts and neither can facts be out-voted.

Given the vitriolic anti-Mac people in this forum, I'll just say in advance: flame away, I'll only answer intelligent remarks on the subject, not invective. I simply don't have time for it.

But before you reply - make sure your anti-virus stuff is up to date, mmmk?

Because the virus authors will always love to pick the low-hanging fruit.

PS - Throwing rocks at OS X is like throwing rocks at Linux - it's not even wrong.
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