Oh, and there is an updated ROM leaked recently which is supposed to contain some new files for the camera, but last I read nobody had found exactly what those differences were.
Leaked versions are for the newer Evo builds with different camera module. Perhaps the later module along with newer rom eliminates the blue tint? Maybe....
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No...light leakage still present. Power and volume buttons seem better.
There are some users with newer phones having camera issues and screen response issues but I have seen no indication to which version those phones are. There is a thread on the first or second page of this general forum where some people that have vers 4 have chimed in.
Thats ridiculous almost 6 months in and HTC cant figure out how to properly secure a screen.
well i dunno if this helps anyone buuut... apparently, i had an 0003 i got 10/1 but the front camera was permafried... it had this nasty static and the pics came out horrible so i took it to the store and the rep said id get a brand new one... turns out via ##rtn# that was in fact, total crap, activation date 6/5 and refurb date 10/7 but still hw 0003... buuut my camera issue was fixed and i went from a 3-point multitouch to a 5-point multitouch epson screen so i cant shin kick him now for feeding me bull patooty... buuut anywho, main point of my story is that i rooted with unrevoked, flashed hboot0.76.2000 s-off and amons recovery 1.8.0, and just recently got a deodexed version of the 3.30.651.2 ota and it flashed with no problems, bootloops, kernel panics, or nuthin... and then when i got word of the 3.30.651.3 update... the ota update borked and didn't work... but i dissected it and it looked like there was a stock recovery image *gag* and so im glad it failed... then hunted and found it deodexed as well and flashed it with no problems... but the framework files and things i think got changed cuz themes were bootlooping if i tried to flash them so i think im ok with the 3.30.651.2 because i noticed a face detection option in the cam that i had never seen before :P i just updated my kernel to the kernel that comes with 3.30.651.3 but kept the software of 3.30.651.2 because that was one of the changes... and no weirdness other than now my syncing icon wont go away but that could be because im trying to build a rom...
well i dunno if this helps anyone buuut... apparently, i had an 0003 i got 10/1 but the front camera was permafried... it had this nasty static and the pics came out horrible so i took it to the store and the rep said id get a brand new one... turns out via ##rtn# that was in fact, total crap, activation date 6/5 and refurb date 10/7 but still hw 0003... buuut my camera issue was fixed and i went from a 3-point multitouch to a 5-point multitouch epson screen so i cant shin kick him now for feeding me bull patooty... buuut anywho, main point of my story is that i rooted with unrevoked, flashed hboot0.76.2000 s-off and amons recovery 1.8.0, and just recently got a deodexed version of the 3.30.651.2 ota and it flashed with no problems, bootloops, kernel panics, or nuthin... and then when i got word of the 3.30.651.3 update... the ota update borked and didn't work... but i dissected it and it looked like there was a stock recovery image *gag* and so im glad it failed... then hunted and found it deodexed as well and flashed it with no problems... but the framework files and things i think got changed cuz themes were bootlooping if i tried to flash them so i think im ok with the 3.30.651.2 because i noticed a face detection option in the cam that i had never seen before :P i just updated my kernel to the kernel that comes with 3.30.651.3 but kept the software of 3.30.651.2 because that was one of the changes... and no weirdness other than now my syncing icon wont go away but that could be because im trying to build a rom...
A "from a 3-point multitouch to a 5-point multitouch Epson" screen? Could you elaborate on this? I found out my Evo has an Epson and it's version 003, purchased Oct 1st. I think it's build date is like the end of August (don't feel like taking off my otterbox case again to see).
I'm curious as to how my Epson screen would have better capabilities than the Nova display. I wouldn't think there would be any difference other than in appearance, as the display only shows what the phone tells it and the touch capabilities would be related to the glass, capacitive technology, and OS more so than the LCD?
well i dunno if this helps anyone buuut... apparently, i had an 0003 i got 10/1 but the front camera was permafried... it had this nasty static and the pics came out horrible so i took it to the store and the rep said id get a brand new one... turns out via ##rtn# that was in fact, total crap, activation date 6/5 and refurb date 10/7 but still hw 0003... buuut my camera issue was fixed and i went from a 3-point multitouch to a 5-point multitouch epson screen so i cant shin kick him now for feeding me bull patooty... buuut anywho, main point of my story is that i rooted with unrevoked, flashed hboot0.76.2000 s-off and amons recovery 1.8.0, and just recently got a deodexed version of the 3.30.651.2 ota and it flashed with no problems, bootloops, kernel panics, or nuthin... and then when i got word of the 3.30.651.3 update... the ota update borked and didn't work... but i dissected it and it looked like there was a stock recovery image *gag* and so im glad it failed... then hunted and found it deodexed as well and flashed it with no problems... but the framework files and things i think got changed cuz themes were bootlooping if i tried to flash them so i think im ok with the 3.30.651.2 because i noticed a face detection option in the cam that i had never seen before :P i just updated my kernel to the kernel that comes with 3.30.651.3 but kept the software of 3.30.651.2 because that was one of the changes... and no weirdness other than now my syncing icon wont go away but that could be because im trying to build a rom...
And your point is? This is a hardware 004 thread, not 003. And like the above poster said, there is so such thing as a 3 pt vs a 5pt touch screen. Both are multitouch, and the touch sensor is the same in both phones, just different lcd screens.
Just thought I would add that with "refurb" units it is not uncommon to actually get a new unit that simply isn't packaged in the new box. Waste of resources ($$$) for them to send you one a new shiny new box. This isn't at all uncommon in the electronics sector. Too many people get hung up on "refurb" meaning "used". In some cases it can, but in most cases it is not synonymous.
AND FWIW I have a 004 that I rooted using the manual method since unrevoked does not yet work for these. A bit more work, but it was worth it!
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A "from a 3-point multitouch to a 5-point multitouch Epson" screen? Could you elaborate on this? I found out my Evo has an Epson and it's version 003, purchased Oct 1st. I think it's build date is like the end of August (don't feel like taking off my otterbox case again to see).
I'm curious as to how my Epson screen would have better capabilities than the Nova display. I wouldn't think there would be any difference other than in appearance, as the display only shows what the phone tells it and the touch capabilities would be related to the glass, capacitive technology, and OS more so than the LCD?
Taken from Netarchy's Toastmod Kernel thread on xda
Research has shown that the Evo's contain at least 2 different versions of the touch sensor, one of which does not support 5point multitouch (but it DOES support 3point). You can check which sensor you have using adb by issuing the following command: "adb shell cat /sys/android_touch/vendor" and examining the result. If your result is ATMEL_x0080_x0016, your phone can support 5point. If your result is ATMEL_x004F_x0016, your phone will only support up to 3point.
did this on mine and it gave me the first result and also got a multitouch tester and all five fingers on the ol righty were recognized... only with custom kernels though, the htc kernels limit multitouch to 2-points no matter what screen you have...
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And your point is? This is a hardware 004 thread, not 003. And like the above poster said, there is so such thing as a 3 pt vs a 5pt touch screen. Both are multitouch, and the touch sensor is the same in both phones, just different lcd screens.
my point was that there was some confusion regarding the 3.30.651.2 firmware was only for 0004 evos but that some of the older hw evos (like mine) can handle running the firmware without issue...
I exchanged my 003 for a new one, which ended up being an 004 - because my compass didn't work, and my BlueTooth was spotty. It didn't register at the time, but now that the above poster mentions it, the camera really IS a lot better. Indeed, one of my biggest dissapointments with the EVO when I first got it was that the camera was pretty bad. I was hoping to replace my point 'n click with my EVO, but it just wasn't sharp enough. On the 004 - it's getting closer to that goal. Also, the barcode scanner is working a lot faster and a lot better. I didn't think about it at the time, but yea, it's because of the camera is better now I suspect.
This makes me happy.
I mean, one does still need to be realistic in expectations - it'll never be truely as good as a dedicated point and click, but it's gotten a lot closer now with the 004.
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So I actually waited in line on launch day for my 0002, and after a few problems took it back and returned to my trusty blackberry. Fast forward to today, I decided to try again. My 0004 is great, no light leakage and no separation. No problems so far, though my power button is just as hard as ever to press. Definitely not raised any more than my 0002.
Edit: Another note, battery life is great! Really great! Full day, full use with wifi on. I seem to get better wifi performance as well. Battery lasts longer with wifi on (even though I have full 3G signal). I can get WiMax everywhere in the city, but it sucks battery.
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My 0004 is great, no light leakage and no separation. No problems so far, though my power button is just as hard as ever to press.
My 004 I just got has a VERY easy power button, but there is some light leakage on the bottom left. This is what really bothers me about this phone. Htc's build quality is horrible, especially because it is so inconsistent.
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I'll ask again, has anyone received a 004 evo with novatech screen?
I'mm almost positive my 004 has a nova. The whites are very bright, a little blue/purple tint, and it fades gradually using the widget.
I exchanged my 003 for a new one, which ended up being an 004 - because my compass didn't work, and my BlueTooth was spotty. It didn't register at the time, but now that the above poster mentions it, the camera really IS a lot better. Indeed, one of my biggest dissapointments with the EVO when I first got it was that the camera was pretty bad. I was hoping to replace my point 'n click with my EVO, but it just wasn't sharp enough. On the 004 - it's getting closer to that goal. Also, the barcode scanner is working a lot faster and a lot better. I didn't think about it at the time, but yea, it's because of the camera is better now I suspect.
This makes me happy.
I mean, one does still need to be realistic in expectations - it'll never be truely as good as a dedicated point and click, but it's gotten a lot closer now with the 004.
By chance can you post a pic and 720p video recording? I'm curious to see how much different it is.
Okay. So. Going into a pitch black bathroom and looking at the bottom of my EVO I do see a very small amount of light leakage from under the screen. It's only visible if the phone is held at an angle (no light is visible from the edge by looking direct-onto the screen. It's hardly noticable.
However the USB port does illuminate, which is annoying. No light on the HDMI port.
Add the preinstalled Power Control widget to your home screen.
Tap the brightness button. If the screen brightness fades into the next level, it's a Novatec display. If the brightness instantly switches to the next level, it's an Epson display.
Add the preinstalled Power Control widget to your home screen.
Tap the brightness button. If the screen brightness fades into the next level, it's a Novatec display. If the brightness instantly switches to the next level, it's an Epson display.
I don't believe this is accurate confirmation. I have an Espon screen hardware 003 and my brightness fade.
Add the preinstalled Power Control widget to your home screen.
Tap the brightness button. If the screen brightness fades into the next level, it's a Novatec display. If the brightness instantly switches to the next level, it's an Epson display.
It fades between levels (but it sounds like this isn't a reliable way to tell). I've heard stories for both displays being better/worse - all I know is the screen is beautiful and bright, uniform with zero dead pixels.
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Did my post get removed or am I losing my mind??
Anyhoo, just got back from swapping my v003 for v004. Right off the bat I think the screen looks better and the power and volume buttons do seemed raised a bit. The best part is I have no light leakage!! Wasn't really a big deal I guess but it's nice not having it lol.
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I've noticed over the past few days of owning my 0004, the power button literally makes a soft squeaking sound when I press the left or right side. Almost as if the button is on a noisy spring. I definitely don't like the 'action' of the new button vs. old 0002 button. Harder to press, feels more flimsy, and my 0002 button never made a sound.
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I got my replacement unit from Asurion yesterday and it is a 004 HW [SW 3.20.651.3 ; activated 12/14/2010] and the phone was BNIB.
My neighbor also has an Evo [ HW 003 ; SW 3.29.651.5 ; activated 10/15/2010] ] so when he came over tonight, I compared the two in a dark room, both on the same wallpaper, same brightness et all ..
Observations:
1) Using the ' Power Control ' widget, the 004 screen is warmer [ whites are a bit yellowish ] and the 003 screen is cooler [ whites have more pop and are milky in color ] Colors seem slightly better [truer] on the 004, but blacks were slightly more inky on the 003 IMO. Viewing angles are same on both.
2) Using the ' Power Control ' widget, and adjusting the brightness thru it, the 004 gradually faded, while the 003 changed brightness instantly.
3) The 004's power button is slightly raised in comparison to the 003's. The volume buttons are about the same, or maybe a hair higher on the 004.
4) No light leakage on the 003, while the 004 has some right below the ' home ' icon. It doesn't bother me enough to warrant an exchange [and I don't wanna risk Asurion sending me a refurbished unit! I had to almost fight to replace the POS refurb they sent me initially for a brand new one!! ]
5) Battery life and touch screen response are about the same on both!
I haven't played with the camera, so can't comment on that yet!
I took some pictures and will upload'em tomorrow for everyone to view and compare.
Feel free to ask any questions
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I got my replacement unit from Asurion yesterday and it is a 004 HW [SW 3.20.651.3 ; activated 12/14/2010] and the phone was BNIB.
My neighbor also has an Evo [ HW 003 ; SW 3.29.651.5 ; activated 10/15/2010] ] so when he came over tonight, I compared the two in a dark room, both on the same wallpaper, same brightness et all ..
Observations:
1) Using the ' Power Control ' widget, the 004 screen is warmer [ whites are a bit yellowish ] and the 003 screen is cooler [ whites have more pop and are milky in color ] Colors seem slightly better [truer] on the 004, but blacks were slightly more inky on the 003 IMO. Viewing angles are same on both.
2) Using the ' Power Control ' widget, and adjusting the brightness thru it, the 004 gradually faded, while the 003 changed brightness instantly.
3) The 004's power button is slightly raised in comparison to the 003's. The volume buttons are about the same, or maybe a hair higher on the 004.
4) No light leakage on the 003, while the 004 has some right below the ' home ' icon. It doesn't bother me enough to warrant an exchange [and I don't wanna risk Asurion sending me a refurbished unit! I had to almost fight to replace the POS refurb they sent me initially for a brand new one!! ]
5) Battery life and touch screen response are about the same on both!
I haven't played with the camera, so can't comment on that yet!
I took some pictures and will upload'em tomorrow for everyone to view and compare.
Feel free to ask any questions
I do have the light leakage as well, I am also within the 30 days, might be a good idea to get it replaced you think?
I do have the light leakage as well, I am also within the 30 days, might be a good idea to get it replaced you think?
If it bothers you, and you easily can, go for it..
I realized if I depress the screen [ on the area where the light leaks ] the leakage goes away for a few minutes, only to pop back up later..
It's beginning to look like a case of screen separation..My only concern is dust getting under the screen, otherwise I wouldn't bother..
Asurion gives me 15 calendar days to report malfunctioning or damaged equipment, so I'm seriously considering an exchange...
Also, I have a Novatec screen. Downloaded ' Android Terminal Emulator ' from the Market ; typed dmesg and scrolled down to <7> and there it was, in all it's glory - ' Novatec '.
My 003 had Epson, and comparing with my neighbor's 003 which also has an Epson, I prefer the Epson screen as well! [hello redundancy ] Reason being the screen is brighter, the whites are milky white [not pale as on Nova screens] the blacks have more depth, and the text appears sharper on Epson!!
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It means that versions 2,3 were all found to be inadequate in some way and needing a major overhaul. Its a joke no more HTC phones for me. Do it right the first time or don't do it at all. You can be certain "the user abuse" poorly designed charging port was changed to one that works for sure. Again HTC your a joke!
Um, not really guy. Most version changes are not a result of inadequate parts; most of these issues arise from haphazard manufacturing, as they were trying to rush them off the line for the same whiny children that are going to hate something about the phone anyways. Version changes are mostly because, in order to produce them faster, they contract with several developers for the same part. When they run out of say, the screens that company "A" made, they start using the screens that company "B" made. This could also be the result of getting a lower bid from company "B", and contract ran out for company "A", or company "A" already has contracts in line for other manufacturers, so after they have produced the 50,000 screens HTC originally ordered, they move on to other contracts, so HTC has to get company "B" to make their screens now. /end_rant
Oh really? You must get laughed at a lot........ anyway, I called Sprint and they said no problem. I will be exchanging my phone tomorrow.
Did you buy your Evo at a Sprint store? Did you call the local store? I bought mine last week (1/1) at Radio Shack and have a 0003. My wife and friend bought at the same time and have 0004.
I bought four new EVO's from Radio Shack 12-23. Three of them are ver. 3, one is ver. 4. No major diff between the two other than the 4 has a [I]slightly[I] raised power button.
I've noticed over the past few days of owning my 0004, the power button literally makes a soft squeaking sound when I press the left or right side. Almost as if the button is on a noisy spring. I definitely don't like the 'action' of the new button vs. old 0002 button. Harder to press, feels more flimsy, and my 0002 button never made a sound.
Well, sounds to me like we are on the same boat then! I bought 2 004's and my primary evo makes a squeaky noise when I press on the left side of the button only. It feels as if it's getting harder to press.
I compared it to my other evo and I noticed a small greyish/white line on the right side of the button inbetween the casing, looks like a pressure point or a crack. I want to take it back, but since i'm rooted, I'm having second thoughts about it.
Bought an 004 A couple days ago and while there's really no light leak and it seems well built compared to others I've seen, if you lightly press the search button the screen has a noticeable ripple effect. Anyone else have this? I"ve seen at least one other EVO with it, but quite a few without. Trying to decide if it's an exchangable issue.
Just got my EVO this past Sat. It's a white 0003. There is definitely light leakage under the home and search buttons, and as was mentioned before pressing on the screen makes it go away for a few minutes. Not really digging the white like I thought I would, so I'll be exchanging this for a black one. Here's hoping for an 0004 with no issues....
When Sprint announced their first ever 4G handset at CTIA in March 2010, they dropped a bombshell on the mobile world. The HTC Evo 4G is a device that introduces a lot of firsts when compared to other North American handsets. This is the first Andr... Read More
so i cant shin kick him now for feeding me bull patooty... buuut anywho, main point of my story is that i rooted with unrevoked, flashed hboot0.76.2000 s-off and amons recovery 1.8.0, and just recently got a deodexed version of the 3.30.651.2 ota and it flashed with no problems, bootloops, kernel panics, or nuthin... and then when i got word of the 3.30.651.3 update... the ota update borked and didn't work... but i dissected it and it looked like there was a stock recovery image *gag* and so im glad it failed... then hunted and found it deodexed as well and flashed it with no problems... but the framework files and things i think got changed cuz themes were bootlooping if i tried to flash them so i think im ok with the 3.30.651.2 because i noticed a face detection option in the cam that i had never seen before :P i just updated my kernel to the kernel that comes with 3.30.651.3 but kept the software of 3.30.651.2 because that was one of the changes... and no weirdness other than now my syncing icon wont go away but that could be because im trying to build a rom...
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] Reason being the screen is brighter, the whites are milky white [not pale as on Nova screens] the blacks have more depth, and the text appears sharper on Epson!!
