The new sense ui on the desire hd looks awesome.. my question is was there any official announcements as to whether or not the evo will get updated to the new sense ui.. if so is there any further information as to when this will happen ?
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Power off is really sleep, so power-on is sleep wake-up - really quick (although this does make boot into recovery harder). I especially like the map caching, and the phone tracking.
I think if they're planning Gingerbread for us, we'll get the New Sense.
It only makes sense (no pun) for them to not have any more software branches than necessary - and the DHD and Evo seem too similiar to keep way different branches.
Just speculation on my part - I haven't found answers (yet) for the questions: is there an official word on this, and if so, when.
I appreciate the thread - it prompted me to look up what the New Sense is, and now I want it, too.
As to the Gingerbread conflict with Sense, Drew Bamford, who heads HTC’s user experience design team, told Forbes -
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Google, too, has indicated that it wants to make the next (3.0) version of Android more polished and user friendly. Industry observers have speculated that manufacturers like HTC will make fewer alterations on their Android phones as a result. Bamford, however, says he doesn’t expect Google’s tweaks, which are scheduled to debut before the end of the year, to affect his work. “Google may focus more on improving the user interface on the stock Android [software], but I don’t think they’ll preclude manufacturer customization,” he explains.
In fact, Bamford is full of ideas on how to improve Sense by adding new experiences and evolving others. The current version of the software is people-centric, emphasizing the aggregation of social feeds and photos of people deemed important to users. In the future, Sense will also make discovering and sharing media–music, video, mobile applications and books–easier, says Bamford.
Here's a tube of it - it's 15 minutes and to my surprise, I not only sat through it, I enjoyed it -
Wow, new Sense UI + Gingerbread = Heaven. I cannot wait until a good ROM comes out on this combo. But I'm really hoping that we have landscape mode with the homescreen.
The update after that is apparently Honeycomb and will probably be 3.0, but people said the same about Gingerbread, so who knows. As you can see, Google likes dessert.
EDIT: by "all", I meant Evo users. Not everyone has froyo, yet.
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So are we going to have to choose between 2.3 and the new sese ui? if i had to pick one over the other i think i'd want the new UI. when does maps 5.0 come out?
So are we going to have to choose between 2.3 and the new sese ui? if i had to pick one over the other i think i'd want the new UI. when does maps 5.0 come out?
None of us here know that for fact - I think.
What we do know is that so far, HTC has been incredibly responsive to supporting the EVO, especially compared to other brands' treatment of their customers.
And lot of your Android brethren are waiting on 2.2 - and in the case of one very capable handset - have been given a 2.2 incremental update that the maker just conveniently tagged as 2.3, with a warning that it's their 2.3, not Android 2.3.
While others are playing 2.2 games, HTC is pressing forward. Remember, we've had official 2.2 support for more than 4 months - that's 4 months longer than a lot of handsets.
Time will tell if I'm right or wrong, but I'm stoked that ultimately, it won't be an either/or kinda deal.
Great if they arrive together, great if they come staggered - so long as we end up with both in a timely fashion.
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1st phone with official release of 2.2 - Google Nexus 1
1st non-Google phone with 2.2 - HTC EVO 4G
1st phone with official release of 2.3 - Google Nexus S (pre-order status)
1st non-Google phone with 2.3 - ???
I'm betting it'll be the Evo and with the new Sense.
In fact, in the fine tradition of our Froyo predictions - I'll say before the end of the first full week in February - so I say no later than Feb 8, '11.
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HTC says it wants to sell 60 mil phones next year. The only way they can do that is to offer a choice of with and without Sense. The best bet would be to have Sense that can be turned on/off. 60 mil is three times what their 2010 sales target was.
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HTC says it wants to sell 60 mil phones next year. The only way they can do that is to offer a choice of with and without Sense. The best bet would be to have Sense that can be turned on/off. 60 mil is three times what their 2010 sales target was.
Yeah, no doubt about it - hTC is up to something....
What we do know is that so far, HTC has been incredibly responsive to supporting the EVO, especially compared to other brands' treatment of their customers.
And lot of your Android brethren are waiting on 2.2 - and in the case of one very capable handset - have been given a 2.2 incremental update that the maker just conveniently tagged as 2.3, with a warning that it's their 2.3, not Android 2.3.
While others are playing 2.2 games, HTC is pressing forward. Remember, we've had official 2.2 support for more than 4 months - that's 4 months longer than a lot of handsets.
Time will tell if I'm right or wrong, but I'm stoked that ultimately, it won't be an either/or kinda deal.
Great if they arrive together, great if they come staggered - so long as we end up with both in a timely fashion.
History:
1st phone with official release of 2.2 - Google Nexus 1
1st non-Google phone with 2.2 - HTC EVO 4G
1st phone with official release of 2.3 - Google Nexus S (pre-order status)
1st non-Google phone with 2.3 - ???
I'm betting it'll be the Evo and with the new Sense.
In fact, in the fine tradition of our Froyo predictions - I'll say before the end of the first full week in February - so I say no later than Feb 8, '11.
so you think by feb 8, 2011 we should have 2.3 and new UI ? Gosh i hope you're right!
I think HTC is well on the way to becoming THE standard Android manufacturer, and I hope your predictions are right.
Hey, I just want to give a shout out to the independent devs on this one, too.
That new Sense vid I posted above - running on an Evo today, courtesy of an independent dev. (Bugs as the guy said, but so what for an alpha.)
I won't hypothesize how the magic might've happened without them - I can't. They've been a part of our collective Android success with this platform and have made pioneering contributions that I believe have positively impacted us all, whether you're rooted and use alternative roms - or not.
So - just wanted to spread that credit around a little, thanks for reading and considering this.
HTC says it wants to sell 60 mil phones next year. The only way they can do that is to offer a choice of with and without Sense. The best bet would be to have Sense that can be turned on/off. 60 mil is three times what their 2010 sales target was.
Thanks, compadre, I did not know that.
The source for that number is Digitimes - not being a subscriber, I had to look at other reports. The first link gives a bit of interesting analysis, the second is strongly suggesting that their main paragraph is a Digitimes quote. Enjoy -
As to whether they offer them with and without Sense - very interesting.
At one time, I had the public htc-phones-in-production list linked here in AF. Naturally, I can't find it now, and want to, because it gave some rough numbers of units sold, so far as I recall - and I could be wrong on that.
Point is - I wondered what HTC might sell on the global market to skew that 20 million number - how many were feature phones or something they move a lot of outside of our market?
Turns out, not so much - according this, they moved about 5 million _smartphones_ in Q2 of this year, so 20 mm for the year seems to hold water.
I don't want to argue with your idea - I re-iterate that it's an intriguing one.
I think it's interesting because I don't know how they (not us) would characterize the demand to make that decision. They're seeing growth - why mess with it?
OTOH - speculation abounds that despite being a big player for the Win7 phone, HTC will ship a lot more Androids (and while we're all fans of Android, I'll be the first to emphasize that's speculation - while I think Win phones are dead end, Microsoft has surprised us way more than once - so - we don't know yet).
Sense is more than a UI - it's an integrating concept. I kept saying I'd drop it after seeing screen shots of other great roms and comparing with my buds - but - I'm sold on Sense. I only know that at first, I hated it and wanted stock Android (I'd had that before).
Still - I'm intrigued. When you say turn off Sense - how so? Launcher? Other?
And - this thread has a lot of lurkers - so - for those not 100% clear -
This is HTC Sense - (9 minutes, from last year - not the new Sense, above - but it is the Sense concept)
The update after that is apparently Honeycomb and will probably be 3.0, but people said the same about Gingerbread, so who knows. As you can see, Google likes dessert.
EDIT: by "all", I meant Evo users. Not everyone has froyo, yet.
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Wow, new Sense UI + Gingerbread = Heaven. I cannot wait until a good ROM comes out on this combo. But I'm really hoping that we have landscape mode with the homescreen.
Im sure Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo rom will incorporate 2.3 and the new Sense quite nicely.
Im sure Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo rom will incorporate 2.3 and the new Sense quite nicely.
I hope so too, I may consider going back to warm, Fresh seems a little stagnant, may be a bit busy which is fine. Plus my data is running super slow, not sure if its a Rom problem or what but i may make the change sooner than later. Only thing is that Fresh has amazing battery life for me compared to others.
but .. not new sense...
but .. still getting updates from HTC!!!!
Well - again, I'm speculating - if it's true that the new mini-Evo (3.7" w/slide-out keyboard) is coming from Sprint on Jan 9 - and if it's true that they're naming it the HTC EVO Shift 4G - then it seems to me that it would be marketing suicide to stop updating the older sister.
So far with their new approach to things - I don't see them practicing that sort of lunacy anytime soon.
with the HTC Desire HD being soooooooo similar as the EVO...
and Desire Z is the twin to the EVO Shift...
they both were the poster boys for the New Sense.
I am very confident that EVO will get both 2.3 and New Sense. I only wonder WHEN
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I hope so too, I may consider going back to warm, Fresh seems a little stagnant, may be a bit busy which is fine. Plus my data is running super slow, not sure if its a Rom problem or what but i may make the change sooner than later. Only thing is that Fresh has amazing battery life for me compared to others.
You should RLS4 is awesome. Myn is doing some great work. He is on top of things.
Meh, seems like this new update is a bunch of bloatware.
Bloatware + Swype for those that like it - and one user reported that he was called by htc tech to inform him to take this update, it would address his stability/reboot issues.
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Bloatware + Swype for those that like it - and one user reported that he was called by htc tech to inform him to take this update, it would address his stability/reboot issues.
Bummed about it missing the new Sense... so far.
IMO I feel that any app whether its good or not that is forced upon us by the carriers or the OEM's in the form of a update is plain crapware. They are also including some Nova game (never heard of it) in it and its just a demo. Thats BS. Kind of reminds me what Verizon did by pushing out madden in a stub app without the users consent. To top it off it was just a demo that wanted you to fork over 10$ to buy the full game, and you cant get rid of it unless you are rooted of course. WTF we purchased this hardware leave it alone. End Rant LOL.
About the Evo getting the new Sense. Doesnt the Desire HD have more rom and internal storage. I thought I heard somewhere that the Evo might not be capable of running it due to it being limited in that regard. I hope not!
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I dunno - the vid on the previous page of this thread shows a hacked (therefore buggy) version of it running on the Evo right now.
We're speculating as per usual, but that does establish a decent foundation for it.
Never know.
At the rate these awesome devs at xda work. They would have already incorporated the new sense in their roms if it were plausible. Hate to be negative but dont count on the Evo getting the new Sense. Just a hunch.
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Interesting... I wish it included Netflix instead of Blockbuster though..
Taking it a step further... I would rather have nothing than have Blockbuster. The first thing I am surely going to be getting rid of is Blockbuster.
F Blockbuster, I don't want their bankrupt, corrupt, BS disrupting my phone.
But yeah, Netflix would've been sweet!
C'MON HTC!!! As the most prominent, successful, and best integrated Android provider, you can get the jump on early exclusivity through dealings with Netflix! Provide some special accommodations for Netflix and make it happen!
When Sprint announced their first ever 4G handset at CTIA in March 2010, they dropped a bombshell on the mobile world. The HTC Evo 4G is a device that introduces a lot of firsts when compared to other North American handsets. This is the first Andr... Read More
IS Evo getting the latest Sense UI?
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