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Old December 16th, 2010, 03:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Can you believe it? Most of us have yearly upgrades, and many of us got the EVO in the first few weeks. I just realized that in under six months I'll be switching phones.

It's been a hell of a ride so far. Wonder if there will even be anything enticing enough to make me switch. I don't think that I will be drooling over another phone's release the way I was for months with the EVO.

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Most people have yearly upgrades?
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If they keep pushing updates and all, I have no reason to get a new for a while. I see nothing out there right now anyways.
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I haven't had the Evo since launch, but I'm in the same time frame for an update. So far there's nothing released or previewed that makes me envious. The dual core stuff is coming, but I'm not convinced the speed difference will be all that. From what I understand 2.2 and likely 2.3 will not fully support dual core processors. There aren't a whole lot of rumored features that would entice me to upgrade either. NFC? Gyroscopic input? We'll know a lot more after CES.
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Most people have yearly upgrades?
Well not everyone, but I went from a Blackberry in Fall of 09 to a iphone 3GS and then to the EVO in June/July. I'm sure I'll get the new hotness this Spring. I refuse to ever have phone envy.
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You are spending enough to be premier, so yes. Unless you are a family account and not primary, you get yearly upgrades.
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I think everyone says they are content right now, but after the new hotness for summer 2011 is announced at CES a lot of people will be changing their tune.

Just like WarDamnEagle09 said, most of us refuse to have phone envy. And if the upgrade is available for us premiere customers, why not utilize it? I love my Evo but I think a paltry $200 for the latest and greatest will be too enticing to pass up next summer.
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I hope there's something next summer that I can't live without - but I'm not sure what it would look like.
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I might sell my Evo and get something new if there is anything good enough.. Getting tired of the lag.
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As soon as the next gen phones come out my evo is hitting ebay.

I'm late in the upgrade game and just got mine this month but I plan on selling it off and biting the bullet when the new phones come out to get back on schedule with the upgrades. More processor is always good. Not to mention whenever else they come up with by then...
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When I get a phone I'm really happy with, I stick with it until it dies.

I was worried about upgrades vs. memory, but then it hit me - with a rooted phone and the right magic, some of the filesystems can be moved to the SD card with an ext partition (already being done for data with the high-speed kernels).

Add in the rumor that SD cards are coming with the NFC goodness built-in for phones missing it.... (not that I see myself ever liking NFC, but hey...)

In this case - I'll just wait and see. I can't imagine wanting more in 6 months - but...

I want the improved garbage collection and codec support for Gingerbread.
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I think everyone says they are contempt right now, but after the new hotness for summer 2011 is announced at CES a lot of people will be changing their tune.

Just like WarDamnEagle09 said, most of us refuse to have phone envy. And if the upgrade is available for us premiere customers, why not utilize it? I love my Evo but I think a paltry $200 for the latest and greatest will be too enticing to pass up next summer.
Why not? Well, for starters, it still costs $200 (or so) for the "new hotness", so that would be one reason not to. You have to extend your contract again, which some may not want to do. But, the biggest reason, in my opinion, would be because there are a lot of people that see "phone envy" as just plain pathetic.

By the way, "contempt" =/= "content".
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In this case - I'll just wait and see. I can't imagine wanting more in 6 months - but...

I am almost the same. I can't think of many things I need that would make me switch from the EVO soon. In fact I bet there are still many things the EVO can do that I yet to even try.

I have never been an updater just to update or switch to something just because it has 1 more feature than what I have.
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I guess what worries me the most is how customizable the next gen phones will be. The Evo from the beginning was pretty easy to root then we were on our way. It seems that with each iteration of software/hardware upgrade, it is getting more difficult to crack. Sprint has to be losing money with "Wireless Tether", cracked "Sprint Hotspots" etc. I believe they will be making the next gen phones even more difficult to root. Example, while it is possible to crack the Hboot on the new 004 Hardware, it is much more difficult and the risks seem to be higher.

Support for this phone from the developers has been over the top GREAT! That can't be said for some of the other Android devices..cough..cough Epic which my wife has. This facet for me is a pretty serious consideration. I was lucky I think that I wanted the Evo from the beginning and Sprint, HTC and XDA have been on it tweaking and updating ever since. Seems like there is never a dull moment. Heck HTC may even have 2.3 and the new Sense on it before the Epic has Froyo. So with that said, because I'm a techy at heart (no phone envy I just like the newest technology), I'll take a wait and see attitude (I did spring too early for the Instinct and hated Samsung ever since), to see how it plays out.
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I might sell my Evo and get something new if there is anything good enough.. Getting tired of the lag.
The 4G lag? Do you have the recent update? It cured it for me.
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It's a toy for me, so who knows? Damn good to see you in a post again Hope all is well!


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When I finished college, I looked back and said "It's been a hell of a ride", not after owning a telephone for 6 months.

But, the biggest reason, in my opinion, would be because there are a lot of people that see "phone envy" as just plain pathetic.
In my opinion, it was a lot of fun. Sorry it wasn't enough for you to call it a hell of a ride so far. And for me at least, it isn't about envy...it's about me. I could not care less what others think of my phone.


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I guess what worries me the most is how customizable the next gen phones will be.
I'm with you there. The dev support is amazing, and some new phones are looking too locked for me. But, I am keeping my mind open to see if something else makes me excited.

It's not like I can't ESN swap back to the evo if I try something else and it isn't for me.
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Damn good to see you in a post again Hope all is well!

Ditto...Good to see you again!
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I got my evo just after launch, and didnt have an upgrade until October. So i paid full price for it..
And i have an upgrade sitting waiting since october but i have no reason to use it.. and i dont see anything thatll make me upgrade anytime soon.

Not unless theres something that has the same specs of the evo with a few upgrades that id like to see, but so far, nothing looks like it for a while.
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It's a toy for me, so who knows?
But as toys go, this is a reaallly good one.

I downloaded Angry Birds to help some others around here troubleshoot things.

I am actually now addicted to Angry Birds - my first video game addiction in over 35 years. Wouldn't have happened without the 4.3" screen.

With the memory issues and newest bloatware, rooted is the only way to go with this beast, that's for sure.

I'm really happy with it and now want the improved garbage collection and codec support coming with Gingerbread and the new Sense enhancements (cached maps, unified inbox).

At this point, it's doing way more than I could've ever expected out of a phone. I don't see any material changes coming for my use case.

That said - HTC is hiring display and e-ink engineers at their Research Triangle Park location.

If I am going to replace my Evo, and I don't think I am, but if I am, I'm going to do as near to the day that they come out with a display like a Pixel Qi - a hybrid of LCD and e-ink that easily switches between the two (a lot of my use - and all of my outdoor use would be way better with e-ink - not to mention the power saving that gives), maybe more memory, and more battery life.

I've no doubt that dual-cores await us, but I'll care when they demonstrate those with higher power efficiency - right now, it's a guess which way that'll go.

So - my use cases don't look to change soon - but if I can have them with longer life, e-ink+LCD, higher stability and higher speed - sure, you bet - it'll be new toy time!

But until then... man, I'm happy!

Cheers and best holidays to all!

(And yeah, I'm baaaaaack - trying to help new Androiders in the other forum threads, too. Was away for no-big-deal health reasons. You cats ain't losing me that easy! )
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I'm not sure if I'll ever let the Evo go anytime soon. So far I'm very happy with it and all my needs have been address by this phone. Of course this is coming from a guy who kept his Treo 650 for 5 years before I switched to the Evo.

I think the only thing that can make me upgrade is if there's a phone out there with the same capabilities with a better camera (more lens and sensor wise) and HDR capabilities. I'm not interested in higher processing power at all.
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This has nothing to do with phone envy, but I always want to have the latest technology, and if the cost is about $200 to $400 to get a better specs phone next June, I would not be able to wait another full year before getting the new one. The way I look at it is this, depending on your plan, your phone is probably costing you about $2,500 + phone cost every 2 years. This would be about $2,700 for a $200 phone. If I have to buy the second phone for $400, then my cost goes up to $3,100 less resale value of old phone over 2 years. Not a big difference to me, especially to be able to always have the latest technology/specs.

However, nothing in the pipeline that I know of makes my mouth water.
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I doubt that I will be getting a new phone. The Evo seems to have everything that I need in a phone for at least another year. Plus I have only had my Evo for 4 months now, I paid full price because I got the Samsung Moment around november of last year, and with that phone I was actually jealous of all of the other phones that came out three months after my purchase. I have barely starched the surface with rooting the Evo. I have been using the Fresh roms but I having been thinking about flashing some other roms just to get a different experience.
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This has nothing to do with phone envy, but I always want to have the latest technology, and if the cost is about $200 to $400 to get a better specs phone next June, I would not be able to wait another full year before getting the new one. The way I look at it is this, depending on your plan, your phone is probably costing you about $2,500 + phone cost every 2 years. This would be about $2,700 for a $200 phone. If I have to buy the second phone for $400, then my cost goes up to $3,100 less resale value of old phone over 2 years. Not a big difference to me, especially to be able to always have the latest technology/specs.

However, nothing in the pipeline that I know of makes my mouth water.
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If I get something new I will probably keep the evo around as a media player. Apparently it gets phenomenal battery life with the rdios off and it would be a good "beater" to leave in the car. I would think of selling it, but I am sure it will be going for well under $200 by next summer.
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I still love my Evo almost as much as the day I bought it (launch day). It's hard for me to like a phone for very long as I get bored rather quickly, but with Sprint updating it as much as they do keeping it fresh and exciting, I don't see myself buying another phone in the near future. In fact, my neighbor went from the original Droid, to a dumbphone, back to her Droid and she likes my phone more. LOL.
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I still love my Evo almost as much as the day I bought it (launch day). It's hard for me to like a phone for very long as I get bored rather quickly, but with Sprint updating it as much as they do keeping it fresh and exciting, I don't see myself buying another phone in the near future. In fact, my neighbor went from the original Droid, to a dumbphone, back to her Droid and she likes my phone more. LOL.
I agree with you. Sprint and HTC have have been great with updates and improvements on the EVO, very impressive. I also get bored of my phone fast; all 4 of the smartphones I have had in the past I was ready for something new within a few months. The EVO has kept me excited and interested since July. Nothing available to day has much to offer that the EVO does'nt. Still the best all around phone. And I do like Sprints plans, by far the best.
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I wish HTC would release an Evo 2.

I doubt I'll get a new phone in June unless something really impressive comes out. I'm happy with my phone now.
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This has nothing to do with phone envy, but I always want to have the latest technology

I know a couple people that have multiple phones on different carriers and they get every new thing. The problem is they are always having to learn and relearn how to use it and by the time they are really comfortable they get something else.

I went from a BB to a Treo to the iPhone to the Pre and now the EVO and I am still swyping or pressing or flicking trying to do something I was used to on the other devices.

About the only thing I might switch to in the near future would be if the EVO 2 looked and operated exactly the same just with better hardware.
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what update are you referring to
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Wow time sure does fly. I still remember when we called this thing the Supersonic I don't have the liberty of yearly upgrades so I'll be keeping this for a while (unless I wanna pay full price). My phone is running 2.3 now and I don't see any reason why I would need another phone for the foreseeable future as long we have such an amazing dev community.
 
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the evo is my first phone that is really more then just a phone to me. sure I have had phones that do the web and play music or whatever, but really they were just gimmicks that didn't replace anything for me. well the evo is everything to me, nav, media player, web browser you name it

I love the thing and probably won't upgrade this year, unless it were to get very very light with much better battery life. these too things would have to be significant improvements too. other then that I will be waiting for a dual core phone, not that I need dual core. but that's what I feel would be a big enough upgrade in phones for me to upgrade. sure there needs to be some power improvements for dual core. and sure I have read that no current software supports dual core. but when dual core comes out I sure don't expect to be running current software.

I also don't think sprint will drop support for this phone. do I think it will get an os upgrade past gingerbread, at this point no I do not. but I do think that sprint will keep up with maintenance. I had the instinct for about a year and 7 months and tho that thing was lame and didn't really get new features it seemed to get plenty of maintenance updates for what it was.

besides, all the accessories I have purchased for this beast it would be smart for my wallet to hold on to it for a while.
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I don't see anything in that update about improving 4g performance/lag, just the widget. Has this been confirmed?
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I don't see anything in that update about improving 4g performance/lag, just the widget. Has this been confirmed?
I don't know. We do know that it turns out the widget was buggy and this fixes that. 4G would turn on/off repeatedly for a lot of people - wasted battery like crazy when the widget said 4G was off.

This also claims to have some stability updates.

We'll have to get user reports as to how good this part really is.
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LOL was that a widget? I thought it was the radio... Darn! I sent a perfectly good phone (no light leakage) and got a replacement phone with light leakage... *sigh*.
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I'd get the Evo 2 or comparable Htc phone if they put it out in June, but really I don't have a lot of desire for something else right now. I hope they really push the envelope with Evo 2 or whatever like they did with Evo. Maybe up the PPI a whole bunch and compete with iPhone 4/5 and make the camera sensor really nice. I'd also enjoy playing with NFC and get Honeycomb on there
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I was waiting to see if anyone mentioned it...not yet so I will.

No one is interested in WP7? I honestly know almost nothing about it. I'm not even going to look at it until May. If there isn't a better Sprint android by then, or on the near horizon by then I may try one.

P.S. I won't leave. I am getting a second Evo today for my mom for Christmas and throwing her on my family plan. I'm sure you were all worried (or crossing your fingers ).
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I was waiting to see if anyone mentioned it...not yet so I will.

No one is interested in WP7? I honestly know almost nothing about it. I'm not even going to look at it until May. If there isn't a better Sprint android by then, or on the near horizon by then I may try one.

P.S. I won't leave. I am getting a second Evo today for my mom for Christmas and throwing her on my family plan. I'm sure you were all worried (or crossing your fingers ).
Funny you mention this. I was thinking the exact same thing reading this thread. The Xbox Live looks impressive to me (as someone who only has "real life" friends on Live.) And the Interface is just plain drool worthy. I think Sense is the best UI for Android at the Moment, as I never saw the appeal in stock android? But I personally think there are too many restrictions on WP7 that us EVO owners enjoy daily. And a sidenote, the WP7 coming to Sprint is The Pro I believe which is a radically different form factor than we are used to
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I like WP7 and would love to play with somebody's, but it's not open or customizable enough for me. I'm spoiled now.
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Having upgraded for the last few years on a yearly basis, (Instinct, Pre and now Evo) I very content with my rooted Evo. Now maybe if the next best thing included holographic images, I might consider......
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When I finished college, I looked back and said "It's been a hell of a ride", not after owning a telephone for 6 months.



Why not? Well, for starters, it still costs $200 (or so) for the "new hotness", so that would be one reason not to. You have to extend your contract again, which some may not want to do. But, the biggest reason, in my opinion, would be because there are a lot of people that see "phone envy" as just plain pathetic.

By the way, "contempt" =/= "content".
i couldn't agree with you more who the heck upgrades their phone yearly unless they have to...if you have the latest updates for your device why go out and spend 200+ on a new phone and contract that's senseless
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In the last 3 years I have had a windows phone (6.0), an iphone 3Gs, a pre (just for a month) and now an EVO. I am very content and don't see anything on the horizon that will tempt me. The only thing that will get me actively out looking is if Sprint jumps on the capped-data band wagon. I am interested to see what happens with webOS though. And fwiw, after my experience with a windows phone, they would have to come up with a $20 a month everything plan for me to ever consider one of those again.
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i couldn't agree with you more who the heck upgrades their phone yearly unless they have to...if you have the latest updates for your device why go out and spend 200+ on a new phone and contract that's senseless
Not everyone will agree with everyone else's choices. Some think cable TV is a waste of money, some can't live life without it. Some take the bus, while others buy a decked out Benz every few years.

Senseless to you is not senseless to everyone.
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Once I got my Ipad, it kind of made the whole phone as a computer thing a little silly. Don't get me wrong I love my Evo, but the ipad destroys it for a lot of the same things like web browsing, movies..books..apps..etc. I still use my evo for stuff, but the ipad is far better on the battery and obviously easier to type on and work with.

Even if you hate apple, get an android tablet. My point is that you may do yourself better by keeping your evo and just buying a tablet instead.
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Once I got my Ipad, it kind of made the whole phone as a computer thing a little silly. Don't get me wrong I love my Evo, but the ipad destroys it for a lot of the same things like web browsing, movies..books..apps..etc. I still use my evo for stuff, but the ipad is far better on the battery and obviously easier to type on and work with.

Even if you hate apple, get an android tablet. My point is that you may do yourself better by keeping your evo and just buying a tablet instead.
Agreed to a point. I have an archos 70 also. I think a 7 inch screen is a great sweet spot for me. I have found myself flipping back and forth often (last night, I was showing my girlfriend a car on the evo, pulled out the tablet so we could see it together). I seriously considered getting an optimus (got my daughter one...much better than I ever expected) to save a few bucks. In the end, I doubt I will do it...I love my evo. It has to be an upgrade, or I will stay with it.
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I kept an HTC Touch Diamond a year than went to the BB Bold 9650 for 30 days until the Evo came out, swapped to it.

I love this phone. I flash a new rom to it every 3-4 days. Running Salvage Gingerbread rom right now.

As long as devs are tweaking and developing, I'll stick with this phone for a while. I do indeed have a yearly upgrade. I say now that I am content with this phone for a while, and I see nothing right now that makes me want to switch, but CES is coming up...haha

I don't think I could resist not having a shiny new phone...i read somewhere about a dual core, quad gpu phone....dont remember where though. I read engadget all the time.
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You are spending enough to be premier, so yes. Unless you are a family account and not primary, you get yearly upgrades.
I switched to sprint in late June. How long does it take to become a premier member?
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I don't think I could resist not having a shiny new phone...i read somewhere about a dual core, quad gpu phone....dont remember where though. I read engadget all the time.
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