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Old June 6th, 2010, 07:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello, new to this forum. I am currently a 3GS user but highly interested in the new evo recently released. I like the idea of making my phone a hotspot with the 4G connection. Has anyone used there evo to tether iPad? If so is it a pretty fast connection on the iPad once connected? Thank you in advance.

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I purchased the Incredible but did not have a good experience. After 25 days I finally decided to return it. In between the time I returned it and purchasing the EVO I loaded MyWi on the iPhone for my iPad. It worked pretty well although drained the battery pretty quick.

I was skeptical about the EVO. The incredible felt cheap and I had all sorts of bugs in the OS (lots of crashing, apps eating battery, etc). I didn't pre-order. However, I walked into a Radio Shack this afternoon and they had a few so I purchased one. The hotspot feature is quite usable. I've used it on both 4G and 3G... To my surprise it is actually really fast even on 3G. In fact, I don't notice a huge different between the two. Latency is something you must contend with on the mobile network (the time it takes from clicking 'go' to the time it starts to render the page). However, I'd almost argue it is as snappy as my cable modem and here in Austin, TX we have excellent home internet service.

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The long answer to your question: I've been pleasantly surprised at the performance. WiMax (the technology) will get limited coverage inside buildings. Unless you're close enough to get cancer from the antenna don't expect too much. But, again, I'm quite impressed with Sprints 3G coming from an iPhone 3GS (AT&T).

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I purchased the Incredible but did not have a good experience. After 25 days I finally decided to return it. In between the time I returned it and purchasing the EVO I loaded MyWi on the iPhone for my iPad. It worked pretty well although drained the battery pretty quick.

I was skeptical about the EVO. The incredible felt cheap and I had all sorts of bugs in the OS (lots of crashing, apps eating battery, etc). I didn't pre-order. However, I walked into a Radio Shack this afternoon and they had a few so I purchased one. The hotspot feature is quite usable. I've used it on both 4G and 3G... To my surprise it is actually really fast even on 3G. In fact, I don't notice a huge different between the two. Latency is something you must contend with on the mobile network (the time it takes from clicking 'go' to the time it starts to render the page). However, I'd almost argue it is as snappy as my cable modem and here in Austin, TX we have excellent home internet service.

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The long answer to your question: I've been pleasantly surprised at the performance. WiMax (the technology) will get limited coverage inside buildings. Unless you're close enough to get cancer from the antenna don't expect too much. But, again, I'm quite impressed with Sprints 3G coming from an iPhone 3GS (AT&T).

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Gave me a pretty good idea. So the speeds are faster on 3G sprint than AT&T? I wouldn't expect that I'm definitely going to have to play with a demo in store.
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I'm a network engineer by trade so my understanding of all these 'speeds' and such is probably more in depth than the average Joe. While I'm not going to argue that 'speed' isn't a factor in overall user experience most people don't realize that speed is only one small fraction of the puzzle. In fact, in mobile devices latency is a far bigger factor in your 'experience'. Yes... data getting to your phone faster is important but a single web hit can require several DNS queries and multiple hits to different servers ... all asking for small tidbits of data. Most traffic from mobile devices is really many hits for small data. (That is a generalization to some degree but mostly accurate). This kind of traffic benefits from many other things that aren't related to overall speed.

Anyway, my point... speed tests are kinda important but a provider's network can be a big factor as well. You'll have a hard time finding folks in the networking field that will argue that Sprint isn't one of the kings in data. You'd be surprised how many internet packets cross their network. Most people don't realize how many long-haul circuits Spring is responsible for...

Albeit AT&T has their hand in that cookie jar as well... but I'd argue Sprint has them beat.

Anyway... tangent I suppose.. but, just know that speed tests aren't everything. Grab any phone and decide if the 'experience' is right for you. Do things 'seem' fast. Perception is far more important than the numbers of those tests. =)
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I bought the wifi only ipad and waited for the Evo for this very reason. First thing I did was hook it up to the hotspot, it works great! Now I've got access to all the sites i enjoy at work without dealing with the companies stupid firewalls lol

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110% agree with Benjamin7062... ATT's 3G here in KC does run on avg (where I use it) from .75 to 1.8mb consistently. The issue is latency and UPloads are typically horrible. Latency under 500 is rare, up speeds more than 200 or 250 doesn't happen.

With my new EVO it is my first time using Sprint, I can tell you the speed is .7 to 1.2 mb down, latency (ping) 120ms to 150's is the norm with upload speeds nearing DL at .5 to .9mb. The end result IMO is a faster browsing, email and general web use experience while the ATT side has a slight edge is you stream video it starts a bit slower, but seems to dowload a bit faster, whereas on the Sprint 3G it more uniform, doesn't seem to "stall" out.

The tests I've done on 4G have been very impressive running on avg. 3+ mb down and 1mb down with the same consistent pings, in the low to mid 100's.

Overall happy I made the switch as my JB iPhone I used to tether on was a PITA to keep setup and running. Not to mention the iPhone ran hot and only had maybe 2 hours of battery life with light use, stream video and it's gone in 90 mins tops. I have not had a full day to test the Evo battery but after a 2 hour session of forums, surfing and maybe 30 mins of Youtube I was well over 50% left.
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EVO is the fastest Tether to iPad I have used so far. It is way faster than using the tether on my Nexus was. Not sure exactly what the difference is as I only get about 200mbps more on Sprint 3g than I was getting on T-Mobile but the difference is night and day everything just loads quickly it doesn't get stuck halfway through a page and then start again, it's really similiar to being on Wifi connected to my desktop (Comcast).
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I've ben tethering both my iPad and my laptops to my Evo, and it's been working really well. I don't have 4G in my area yet, but speed tests show Sprint's 3G network to be faster than my DSL as far as download speeds go. The latency is a little higher, but I'm actually considering dropping my home internet connection and just using the phone's hotspot functionality.
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I've been tethering my iPad over 3G, and it works really well. Netflix on the go!
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Ipad tethering with evo works great. Speed depends on signal. In my house i get 2 bars downstairs and 4 bars upstairs. 2 bar speed about 0.5 mbs and 4 bar 1.2 mbs. I do think the latency is big factor. Despite speed test pages load about the same as when on my home network with 20 mbs. Have not tried video streming yet.
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I would like to tether my iPad with my evo, how would I go about doing that? Thanks
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Easiest way is with sprint mobile hotspot but costs $ 30/month. There also apps like pdanet. Search the forum for how to use those apps. With sprint hotspot just turn on, configure security. In ipad go to settings , wifi and you should see evo in list of networks and connect like any network.
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I am tethering iPad to Evo. Works great and much faster than tethering to iPhone 3GS on ATT via MyWi app. AT&T was mad slow. Sold iPhone and love Evo. Evo ANC WIFI iPad great combination.
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Anyone else have speed issues tethering with the ipad?

I get good 4g reception at my house, about 8mbps, when I tether to the ipad I get 500kbps down and 50kbps up.


Has been this way since day one. I wonder how the clear ispot compares with its speeds.

I am kicking myself in the butt not picking up the clear ispot at $29 if my evo tethering is going to give me slow speeds like this.
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I wouldn't doubt it at all if Apple is somehow stifling the speed. The iPad and the Evo are strange bedfellows.....they generally work very well together.
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I have my evo and I'm purchasing my Ipad today, do I need to purchase and adapter to go from usb to micro usb to the phone. I use the phone now with my computer and it works great but I like the ipad for when I travel... Thank you...
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I have an Evo and rooted it today, my iPad finds it and connects but when I try to grouse it tells me that it not connected. Is there a setting I have to change to browse.. I get an ip address and a subnet mask address but no router or dns numbers. Hope you guys can help me...

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RB, if you are using the Wireless Tether app from the market, this is a known issue. There is likely nothing wrong with your iPad or your phone. You need to find a version of Wireless Tether that works for you. There are different .apk out there in cyberspace. Maybe you can google "wireless tether .apk" and try until you get one to work....I just don't have time to spoonfeed you fight now....sorry. Make sure you remove the previous app before you try the next one....
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have not seen anywhere if it is possible to tether evo and Ipad without rooting, i am getting a Ipad for Christmas and would like to have it working without rooting.
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have not seen anywhere if it is possible to tether evo and Ipad without rooting, i am getting a Ipad for Christmas and would like to have it working without rooting.
Not a problem....$30.00 a month will activate the hotspot feature...
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My Wifi only Ipad arrives today. I EVO is rooted and will be rockin WIFI TETHER.

Just root your phone and you won't have to pay the $30. My rooted phone runs 10x better than stock anyway.

Go to the rooting section and read http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/194918-rooting-dummies-extras.html
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I rooted my EVO and use the free wireless tether .13 version with my iPad 3G with no real problems. I get speeds mostly 1M but sometimes 2M down and 1/2M up.

I want to add though that for streaming Netflix, WT stops after about 30-40 minutes then you have to exit and restart WT. You don't lose your place in the movie but it can be a buzzkill if at a good scene.
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have not seen anywhere if it is possible to tether evo and Ipad without rooting, i am getting a Ipad for Christmas and would like to have it working without rooting.
hey... look at this:
http://androidforums.com/lg-optimus-s/216054-if-your-interested-wifi-tether.html

the LG Optimus S can use wifi tether without root!!! download a software app that turns the function back on.

not sure if it will work on EVO or other phones. only way to know is to try.
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All that app does it seems is turn the tethering option on and off, no different than doing it without it from the settings.

I tried it last night and it takes me to the same error screen I get when turning tethering on without the app. It did not work on my EVO and Sprint.

RUMOR but I heard the reason it works for some is certain providers give tethering free the first 30 days with new phones.
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you tried... and now we know.... it dont work for evo

to bad
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Do you guys think it's easier to root the EVO and use the free hotspot or jailbreak the iPad and use PDAnet to share a bluetooth internet connection?
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root evo... give you hotspot for other devices too. and other great mod for the phone.
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Thanks, but I'm just talking about ease, not feature set. If anyone who has done both (root EVO and jailbreak iPad), which process was simpler/quicker/less painful/etc.?
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How old is your EVO? If it isn't the newest release, you have a one click root. If it is (what I have), you have to do it manually. I didn't consider this hard, per se, but it is obviously more work than a one click root.

What you want is a software number lower than 3.30.x for it to utilize a one click root. This is found under the software information tab. (settings>about phone>software information)
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I've had it since July. The software number is 3.29.651.5.
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i just did this (rooted my evo) was a little scared but it took less then 1/2 hour using write up on this great forum and tether works great.
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Thanks, but I'm just talking about ease, not feature set. If anyone who has done both (root EVO and jailbreak iPad), which process was simpler/quicker/less painful/etc.?

Both are a single click. The only difference is on your EVO there is no new app store like Cydia. You use the same Android Market like before.
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Use my rooted evo as a 4g hotspot for my iPad all the time at work. Only issue is I get a lot of disconnects between the two and have to stop and start wireless tether. I've been thinking og dumping my evo and getting a pre paid dumb phone and going with a ispot iPad combo. It's only $25 a month for unlimited data.
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finally found a working wifi tether today. tried the one from the market a couple weeks ago and it worked for the first time then didnt work after that. today i needed tethering so found a thread stating i needed to find a different wifi tether (barnicle wasnt working either). the working wifi tether was something like "pre12" or something like that. anyways speeds are suprisingly good even on 3g.
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I bought the wifi only ipad and waited for the Evo for this very reason. First thing I did was hook it up to the hotspot, it works great! Now I've got access to all the sites i enjoy at work without dealing with the companies stupid firewalls lol

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Use my rooted evo as a 4g hotspot for my iPad all the time at work. Only issue is I get a lot of disconnects between the two and have to stop and start wireless tether.

Try another version of WT, there are a few experimental copies around. I have
tried most of them and don't usually have any problems until around 30-40 minutes of use or around 500 megs of data downloaded.
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do a search on 2 things....

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Hmm... I can't get my non rooted EVO to tether up for my iPad... Argh. All I want is wireless tethering without having to pay

Please send me a private message with any ideas! Thanks!
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There are people on here saying they have wireless wifi without without having to root and pay ... so are you telling me they are not telling the truth?
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when the EVO first came out... Sprint let first wimax phones try out the hotspot for a month. it may have been a way for sprint to test the new tech out... iron out the bugs..

but i think they have closed that off now.
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ok, I give up ... I know there is a one-click root button that will bring me to the darkside ... where can I find that?
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ok, I give up ... I know there is a one-click root button that will bring me to the darkside ... where can I find that?

welcome to the darkside...
we knew you could break you... you will be assimilated! Resistance is futile

Here are some guides:
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Here is a great forum for more info:
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unrevoked

Use the top option, Unrevoked 3.
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I dl the file, but it says "no application can be found to open this file."
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I dl the file, but it says "no application can be found to open this file."
Hey Pez, go to this thread and follow it step by step. The actual rooting of the phone is very easy. It is getting the drivers installed and working that can be a PIA. And also, if your phone is software version 3.30, it is not rootable...YET. I just got a tweet from Unrevoked saying they are VERY close!

Good luck and welcome to the darkside.

http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/194918-rooting-dummies-extras.html
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I was able to root my EVO and have downloaded Android tether. The iPad is able to see and join the Android tether network however once in it, it will not connect to the Internet. The message I am getting is "You are not connected to the Internet.
Ok so I have followed the steps and the time the iPad is on the android network, I go to the Wireless Tether access control. I have pressed enable/disable and am not getting any prompt/notice that the iPad is trying to access the phone network. At the settings screen I have the following:
Enable Access-Control Unchecked
Change LAN-Network 192.168.....
Client Notification Mode. None
Change Channel. Channel 06
Enable WiFi Encription. Unchecked
Use Bluetooth. Unchecked

Not sure where to go at this time as every time I attempt to access the Internet I get the not connected to Internet message.

Thanks in advance.
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Why use an iPad when you have an Evo?...
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Hey Bishop, this version of Wireless Tether seems to work better for most folks.....give it a try...

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