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Old June 11th, 2012, 03:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default what do you guys think about the fluctuating signal, weaker signal

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I just wanted to get some feedback on the fact that my signal on the evo v seems to go from 2 bars to 5 then back down, fluctuating like such...i also have a cheap phone the lg 200 on virgin mobile and it doesn't have that problem..I have been comparing the signal strength between the evo v and the lg 200...the lg has a better signal...also in Montuak long island I am lucky if i get a signal at all on my evo v..meanwhile the lg 200 registers 2 bars steady...very frustrating...the phone overall works well so i dont think its a hardware problem..if its a software problem I don't know what i can do about it...Can I please get some feedback on this...really appreciate it....thanks...

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There is still a lot of investigating going on into this.
As for bars, bars mean nothing really, they are just a reference. Some phones can still make calls with no bars (Evo 4g), others need at least two for a constant connection (Optimus V) and some will make a good call as soon as you show 1 bar (Blackberry).

So long as your calls go through, ignore the bars and treat them only as a reference. That being said, they do fluctuate A LOT and there seems to be some weird power management involved, but what you are seeing is normal, at least for these phones.


Oh, and ignoring the bars, yes, the signal is a bit weaker than the OV. Not by a lot though. In 99% of the places you can make a call with the OV, you will be able to with the Evo V as well. At least in my experience.
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Default well i guess nobody else has a weak signal problem

I was hoping to get some feedback about the fluctuating signal that I am experiencing. It seems no one has any feedback about it..I just want to know do I have a defective phone or not...Can someone please give me some feedback....thanks..
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I was hoping to get some feedback about the fluctuating signal that I am experiencing. It seems no one has any feedback about it..I just want to know do I have a defective phone or not...Can someone please give me some feedback....thanks..
Everything you are seeing is normal, we don't know why though.

Again, so long as your calls go through, ignore the bars and the fluctuation in them.
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yeah i have about the same overall bars with my evo v, with more fluctuation, however i dont drop calls even with 1-2 bars max. 1-2 bars is about as good as anything will ever get in my area.
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Well I went to Radio Shack and returned the phone...Didn't work out...I guess my other option might be the apple iphone 4s coming out june 29th..I'm not even sure the apple will have better reception...its ridiculous..I spend better than 300.00 on a phone and I have no reception...or have to walk around outside to make a call....this stuff causes me anxiety...

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Well I went to Radio Shack and returned the phone...Didn't work out...I guess my other option might be the apple iphone 4s coming out june 29th..I'm not even sure the apple will have better reception...its ridiculous..I spend better than 300.00 on a phone and I have no reception...or have to walk around outside to make a call....this stuff causes me anxiety...

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you could just buy a booster. even if you spend 2-300 on a cell booster, paying 35 instead of 120 a month for a phone bill will make it pay for itself after just a couple months.
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you could just buy a booster. even if you spend 2-300 on a cell booster, paying 35 instead of 120 a month for a phone bill will make it pay for itself after just a couple months.
That is a little much, people are probably better off going to another prepaid company like straight talk. I currently am having the same problem as well but I am going to give it a couple more weeks yet until I return it and make the switch. Hopefully people find a real fix, I did the PRL update, pulled the battery it works for a couple days but then the error code 64 just comes back.
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That is a little much, people are probably better off going to another prepaid company like straight talk. I currently am having the same problem as well but I am going to give it a couple more weeks yet until I return it and make the switch. Hopefully people find a real fix, I did the PRL update, pulled the battery it works for a couple days but then the error code 64 just comes back.
k.. but in a lot of areas if you dont have sprint coverage, odds are you dont have gsm coverage. and any cdma android phone on straight talk runs on the sprint network as well.
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k.. but in a lot of areas if you dont have sprint coverage, odds are you dont have gsm coverage. and any cdma android phone on straight talk runs on the sprint network as well.
Exactly. There are only two major CDMA carriers and two GSM carriers.

If you are on a prepaid company that uses Verizon, Be prepared to pay and arm and a leg. LOL

If it's Sprint, You'll do no better than you did with Virgin Mobile.
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Exactly. There are only two major CDMA carriers and two GSM carriers.

If you are on a prepaid company that uses Verizon, Be prepared to pay and arm and a leg. LOL

If it's Sprint, You'll do no better than you did with Virgin Mobile.
yeah i can think of a few prepaid companies that use verizons network, well mainly 1 company and a few of their services. tracfone/net10/straight talk all have cdma feature phones that run on verizon. that company also offers gsm phones on all those services, and why people get confused is theyll see they have coverage with 1 net10 and assume another phone like an android will also have coverage. verizon doesnt allow prepaid unlimited data so thats why the cdma android phones on net10/st are sprint.

for people that dont know, if youre looking at straight talk phones or net 10 check the model number. the model ends in a letter and the letters mean
C - cdma. net10/st runs on verizon, but tracfones will roam off other cdma carriers as well.
G - gsm, think more like AT&T coverage
S - sprint network and all their cdma android phones run off this.

in a lot of areas this doesnt matter, but to anyone in like wisconsin who doesnt live in like the 5 major cities, its a big deal.

so for the most part, if you want an android phone in this state, boost and virgin are your only option. if you dont settle with that, youre looking for a contract.
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Sprint users who loaded the leaked evo V ICS rom noted fluctuating/weak signal.
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Exactly. There are only two major CDMA carriers and two GSM carriers.

If you are on a prepaid company that uses Verizon, Be prepared to pay and arm and a leg. LOL

If it's Sprint, You'll do no better than you did with Virgin Mobile.
Well actually Straight Talk has some dumb phones on Verizon which are the same prices as the other services.
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I haven't activated my Evo yet, but possibility of fluctuating signal is little concerning since it may drain the battery faster. My previous Triumph just drank battery juice partly due to lower reception.
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I haven't activated my Evo yet, but possibility of fluctuating signal is little concerning since it may drain the battery faster. My previous Triumph just drank battery juice partly due to lower reception.
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Yeah, I'm sure it's nice to have a large battery. Except, I don't want to increase the size and weight of the device. If it was up to me, Evo would be the size of HTC S.
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in a lot of areas this doesnt matter, but to anyone in like wisconsin who doesnt live in like the 5 major cities, its a big deal.

so for the most part, if you want an android phone in this state, boost and virgin are your only option. if you dont settle with that, youre looking for a contract.
Yeah I know what you mean as I'm in Wisconsin too. Luckily I get good coverage in my town but when I travel, I have to stick to the interstate highways to keep coverage. Anywhere else (especially up north), you can forget having a phone on sprint lol.

I'm often jealous of Minnesota and their ~85% covered state
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My receptionis good in California. I get 4g in all major cities.
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Yeah I know what you mean as I'm in Wisconsin too. Luckily I get good coverage in my town but when I travel, I have to stick to the interstate highways to keep coverage. Anywhere else (especially up north), you can forget having a phone on sprint lol.

I'm often jealous of Minnesota and their ~85% covered state
I'm also in Wisconsin, in the La Crosse area, any idea of how the coverage and data speeds are here? I'm still considering buying this phone and signing up for VM but I've heard that Sprint isn't really great here and not having roaming stinks.
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I'm also in Wisconsin, in the La Crosse area, any idea of how the coverage and data speeds are here? I'm still considering buying this phone and signing up for VM but I've heard that Sprint isn't really great here and not having roaming stinks.
on sensorly i think i saw la crosse actually even has wimax coverage.
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on sensorly i think i saw la crosse actually even has wimax coverage.
I saw that, as well, but I can't find any real verification of it so I don't think so.

Although oddly enough I found coverage on their site? I'm pretty sure it isn't here, though, everyone talks about how bad the speeds are. Not sure if green = 4g? This seems to be for home internet or something, Wisconsin isn't even listed on Sprint's 4g web site.

http://www.clear.com/coverage?zip=54601
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I saw that, as well, but I can't find any real verification of it so I don't think so.

Although oddly enough I found coverage on their site? I'm pretty sure it isn't here, though, everyone talks about how bad the speeds are. Not sure if green = 4g? This seems to be for home internet or something, Wisconsin isn't even listed on Sprint's 4g web site.

CLEAR | 4G Wimax Internet Coverage Map with Service Area.
id take sensorly over that, because their coverage map doesnt show protection sites. it doesnt even list madison or milwaukee and ive confirmed 4g there, and someone else has confirmed it in janesville.
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id take sensorly over that, because their coverage map doesnt show protection sites. it doesnt even list madison or milwaukee and ive confirmed 4g there, and someone else has confirmed it in janesville.
Interesting, I'll have to head over to Best Buy after work, they have the plum colored one in stock. Maybe they can tell me if the data is better then I'm expecting. If I could get 4G here it might be worth risking not having roaming.
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I just recently returned my evo v to Radio Shack. I am going to wait a month or two till they get the virgin mobile branded black evo v..hopefully they will have a software update for it also...the sprint branded phones that were flashed for use on virgins network are software defective..if you read this from the developers forum..
Problems with the EVO 3D ICS Leak Brings Warnings from Devs | xda-developers
It does explain drop in signal
hopefully the new batch of phones that will have the virgin mobile name on it instead of sprint will not have these problems...
I want this phone again so bad....have to wait though..good things come to those who wait...
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I just recently returned my evo v to Radio Shack. I am going to wait a month or two till they get the virgin mobile branded black evo v..hopefully they will have a software update for it also...the sprint branded phones that were flashed for use on virgins network are software defective..if you read this from the developers forum..
Problems with the EVO 3D ICS Leak Brings Warnings from Devs | xda-developers
It does explain drop in signal
hopefully the new batch of phones that will have the virgin mobile name on it instead of sprint will not have these problems...
I want this phone again so bad....have to wait though..good things come to those who wait...
if its a software issue... by the time the virgin branded evos are released, the update will be pushed to everyone who already has one in their hands.
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This problem got really annoying today. It hasn't been this bad but today I had to restart my phone 3 times in order to get signal in an area that has full signal. I get full signal, try to make a call and it doesn't go through. Signal disappears with the X appearing. Toggle airplane mode and nothing. I have to restart the phone and all of a sudden full signal again. Like I said happened 3 times. Called Virgin Mobile to have it documented. Supposedly I will get a call back but we know how that goes. I hope they really do fix this problem because I love the phone but this is crazy. I can't do business like this missing calls and texts.
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I emailed virgin angels and they said my services were not provisioned correctly during activation and they've seen it a lot on the evo v. In 24 hours I haven't dropped cell signal and the fluctuating has even calmed down a lot.

EDIT: Same problem occurred. Shutting off wifi allowed me to regain cell connectivity.
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I've been following the posts on this forum everyday reading almost everything...and I am convinced that QC will be better on the VM branded phones...I read an article that ICS was only meant for the VM phones not sprint branded phones...I have since returned a evo v phone to Rat Shack...and will patiently wait for different stock to come to the shelves...
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I've been following the posts on this forum everyday reading almost everything...and I am convinced that QC will be better on the VM branded phones...I read an article that ICS was only meant for the VM phones not sprint branded phones...I have since returned a evo v phone to Rat Shack...and will patiently wait for different stock to come to the shelves...
I dont really think it will be any different. The phones will have the exact same guts. and even once those come out, someone can just dump the stock VM rom/kernel/everything else, and everyone with sprint branded phones can use it.
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Yes and no.
Flashing will have better quality control, but only because HTC will have direct control over it in the factory, other than that, the end result will be no different. If you are concerned, buy form a store close by so you can return it if you are worried.

This phone is worth the hassle.
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Has anyone else received a reset service text from virgin mobile, I just got one.
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I have not. Did you do what it said?
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Yup, it just said your services have been reset, turn the phone off take out the battery and that's it. I'll let you guys know if the error code 64 comes back.
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Welp, It's only been a few hours since I got the text from Virgin Mobile saying that my service was reset. Now I am getting error code 107 instead, just wow. I can't believe this, if these problems are not fixed in a week I'm returning my phone.
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I haven't gotten any text msg like that yet, but wow... I'm sorry to hear about that.
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Happening to me alot lately. Itll go up to max bars, drop down to nothing, 3G will go to 1X, no signal, full signal, 3G, and then repeat T_T

I've always had amazing signal at my house....
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Hi,

That's exactly what happened on my evo v phone as well, signal was all over the place couldn't even make a call sometimes...and I also have good reception in my apt in Brooklyn, NY..there should be no excuse to not get a strong consistent signal, I live in NYC. They say its the software, ICS operating system was never meant for the sprint branded phones only VM branded phones...So I inevitably returned my evo v to Rat Shack.......I will patiently wait for the VM branded phones to hit the shelves...I am not making the mistake of rushing into another purchase....and by the time I resort to buying the evo v again, there should be a software update for ICS...I feel bad for all those that rushed to get the sprint branded phone...
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That's exactly what happened on my evo v phone as well, signal was all over the place couldn't even make a call sometimes...and I also have good reception in my apt in Brooklyn, NY..there should be no excuse to not get a strong consistent signal, I live in NYC. They say its the software, ICS operating system was never meant for the sprint branded phones only VM branded phones...So I inevitably returned my evo v to Rat Shack.......I will patiently wait for the VM branded phones to hit the shelves...I am not making the mistake of rushing into another purchase....and by the time I resort to buying the evo v again, there should be a software update for ICS...I feel bad for all those that rushed to get the sprint branded phone...
My second sprint branded evo that I got from best buy instead of radiosgack works perfect and doesn't have the fluctuating signal bug.
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Old June 16th, 2012, 08:33 PM   #39 (permalink)
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My second sprint branded evo that I got from best buy instead of radiosgack works perfect and doesn't have the fluctuating signal bug.
I think they have been working on the network.

Even my trusty Optimus V was fluctuating day before yesterday.
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I think they have been working on the network.

Even my trusty Optimus V was fluctuating day before yesterday.
That could be part of it but I am getting much better reception with my new one then my old one.

It may be that they were just hit pretty hard by releasing a high end phone on pre paid.
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That could be part of it but I am getting much better reception with my new one then my old one.

It may be that they were just hit pretty hard by releasing a high end phone on pre paid.
I like to think that was it but I think they were just making changes and beefing up the server. I don't think there is enough of these phones in the pipeline to cause issues... yet. They are in demand and low in number. When the full stock hits shelves, then worry. LOL

Wasn't a server improvement supposed to go live about this time, that may be what we were seeing.
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I like to think that was it but I think they were just making changes and beefing up the server. I don't think there is enough of these phones in the pipeline to cause issues... yet. They are in demand and low in number. When the full stock hits shelves, then worry. LOL

Wasn't a server improvement supposed to go live about this time, that may be what we were seeing.
I hope hope so. It took me about an hour, not joking, to download a 10mb file tonight because it kept going to 1x then off completely. (first time it's actually gone fully down today. Twice. Ugh.)
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I hope hope so. It took me about an hour, not joking, to download a 10mb file tonight because it kept going to 1x then off completely. (first time it's actually gone fully down today. Twice. Ugh.)
That is when you find an open wifi and um... borrow it.
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My receptionis good in California. I get 4g in all major cities.
Not San Diego..
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signal is getting better the longer the phone is out, seems like each day it gets even better.
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Still having issues.... Ugh. This is honestly getting annoying. This is a good phone, but even the triumph didn't have these kind of issues.
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So long as you aren't dropping calls, ignore the signal bars.
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So long as you aren't dropping calls, ignore the signal bars.
I actually have...twice T_T

Its like...itll go from 3g on, to 0 bars, to 1x, to full bars, to 3g, etc etc...
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I've figured out this has to with 4g although it effects the 3g and 1x signal. The way to kind of get around the issue for now is when you loose signal toggle your 4g off. It should find 3g right away again. If it does not toggle the 4g off wait 10 seconds and toggle it back on. Kind of annoying but definitely related with the 4g. I used to have to restart my phone to get signal back but this technique works until it gets fixed (hopefully)
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ICS operating system was never meant for the sprint branded phones only VM branded phones
Why would that be exactly? They are the same phone. The folks with evo 3d on sprint will be getting ICS too, if they haven't done it themselves already.

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I feel bad for all those that rushed to get the sprint branded phone...
OK, well that's nice of you. I feel bad for those that are holding out just because of a few bad apples, particularly when that choice is based on things that aren't true like the comment above. The vast majority of the phones are fine, I'm sorry you had a bad experience.
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