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Old December 21st, 2011, 03:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Honeycomb (3.2.1) update for the View is making its way out now - Sprint EVO View 4G Updates. For those who want to keep their tablet stock, feel free to tap on over to the system update on your device, download, install, and enjoy. But for those who want root access, or who would like to see what kind of developer support starts popping up (now that the View has had several cheap sales over the past couple of weeks), it would be in your best interest to hold off on the update.

Globatron, who is one of the most active posters on XDA working on the View, said not to upgrade yet if you want root access/development support for now: WARNING to View Users - Read this before upgrading to HC

Hopefully a rootable version will be posted on XDA before too much longer. I'm really looking forward to the increased Scribe support that Honeycomb will bring. I'm not really looking forward to losing the capacitive buttons and having to use the buttons on screen (resulting in less screen real estate for actual usage), but hopefully we'll see an Ice Cream Sandwich update at some point that will bring back the capacitive buttons.



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perfect timing, my evo is suppose to arrive in my mail today. in that picture you posted it says download via wifi or cable only. just for clarification, by cable they are talking about USB to pc right?
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perfect timing, my evo is suppose to arrive in my mail today. in that picture you posted it says download via wifi or cable only. just for clarification, by cable they are talking about USB to pc right?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what they're referring to.
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I am not so sure I want to install it even after S-Off fix will be found on XDA.
I like the hardware buttons and don't want to get rid of them and take valuable screen space with the software buttons.

My rooted View on custom ROM is extremely fast as it is.
2330 on Quadrant.

Can someone convince me that HC is necessary?
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Can someone convince me that HC is necessary?
do what you want to do, its not like im gonna be messing with your tablet.
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Wow, such an answer.

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I am not so sure I want to install it even after S-Off fix will be found on XDA.
I like the hardware buttons and don't want to get rid of them and take valuable screen space with the software buttons.

My rooted View on custom ROM is extremely fast as it is.
2330 on Quadrant.

Can someone convince me that HC is necessary?
Well, there's no convincing really. If you want it, you do, if you don't want it, you don't. To me, the only downside to the Honeycomb upgrade is losing the capacitive buttons and having the menu bar onscreen. Besides that, everything else is a major improvement in my book. You get access to Honeycomb-only apps which are optimized for tablets (Gmail is fantastic for instance), the Scribe stylus can now be used just about universally (including navigation), the UI is more fluid and responsive, and there are several improvements all around since it's an OS that's designed for tablet use.

But of course there's nothing wrong with holding out hope for some official or unofficial Ice Cream Sandwich love that will combine the best of both.
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Well, there's no convincing really. If you want it, you do, if you don't want it, you don't. To me, the only downside to the Honeycomb upgrade is losing the capacitive buttons and having the menu bar onscreen. Besides that, everything else is a major improvement in my book. You get access to Honeycomb-only apps which are optimized for tablets (Gmail is fantastic for instance), the Scribe stylus can now be used just about universally (including navigation), the UI is more fluid and responsive, and there are several improvements all around since it's an OS that's designed for tablet use.

But of course there's nothing wrong with holding out hope for some official or unofficial Ice Cream Sandwich love that will combine the best of both.
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Well, there's no convincing really. If you want it, you do, if you don't want it, you don't. To me, the only downside to the Honeycomb upgrade is losing the capacitive buttons and having the menu bar onscreen. Besides that, everything else is a major improvement in my book. You get access to Honeycomb-only apps which are optimized for tablets (Gmail is fantastic for instance), the Scribe stylus can now be used just about universally (including navigation), the UI is more fluid and responsive, and there are several improvements all around since it's an OS that's designed for tablet use.

But of course there's nothing wrong with holding out hope for some official or unofficial Ice Cream Sandwich love that will combine the best of both.


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Can anyone talk about how the HC update looks and runs? Does Sense drag it down? I just got one from DailySteals last week when they were $230 and it gets here on Tuesday.
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Can anyone talk about how the HC update looks and runs? Does Sense drag it down? I just got one from DailySteals last week when they were $230 and it gets here on Tuesday.
It doesn't drag it down at all. Sense is actually barely there. It looks and runs almost like stock Honeycomb. Mine lagged a bit on Gingerbread, but now it's incredibly smooth. Definitely a very good update in my opinion that adds a lot of much needed functionality through the Scribe stylus and access to Honeycomb only apps.
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I just got home and the update was ready to download. I like it some things have changed for sure but very smooth.
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Does anyone know how to expand the bottom icons in the notification tray? Because the clock is so large, I can't get all my notification icons to show. It's very limited and I hate it.

Also, is there a way to change the color of the clock, wifi and battery icon in the notification tray? This is one time I miss the green icons. It's very difficult for me to see the gray on black. I'm really not interested in rooting this thing, I have other phones for that but it seems like Google messed up the notification tray with this update.
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Does anyone know how to expand the bottom icons in the notification tray? Because the clock is so large, I can't get all my notification icons to show. It's very limited and I hate it.

Also, is there a way to change the color of the clock, wifi and battery icon in the notification tray? This is one time I miss the green icons. It's very difficult for me to see the gray on black. I'm really not interested in rooting this thing, I have other phones for that but it seems like Google messed up the notification tray with this update.
I had to change the clock i have the same problem. And like you i'm trying to get the hang of the notification tray. I think that is not a google change but the HTC Sense add on.
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I had to change the clock i have the same problem. And like you i'm trying to get the hang of the notification tray. I think that is not a google change but the HTC Sense add on.
How did you change the clock?
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not the clock in the bottom right just the on-screen clock widget. I dont think you can change the batt or clock or other icons unless you ROOT
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not the clock in the bottom right just the on-screen clock widget. I dont think you can change the batt or clock or other icons unless you ROOT
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One thing I *did* notice is that CarrierIQ was removed in this update.
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GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Thanks for the answer though.

One thing I *did* notice is that CarrierIQ was removed in this update.
Yes the damn IQ was not a fav of mine and many other users. I dont think I'm going to root. Things on mine are running very smooth. I have rooted all my phones and enjoy that but my tablet does not need to be rooted for right now. I'm waiting for a good ICS update for this tablet The crazy part is HTC does not plan on updating the View as of right now that I can see. And ICS was made more for tablets then just phones. The updating is so messed up. Oh well

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Yes the damn IQ was not a fav of mine and many other users. I dont think I'm going to root. Things on mine are running very smooth. I have rooted all my phones and enjoy that but my tablet does not need to be rooted for right now. I'm waiting for a good ICS update for this tablet The crazy part is HTC does not plan on updating the View as of right now that I can see. And ICS was made more for tablets then just phones. The updating is so messed up. Oh well

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I'm right there along with you on the root thing. I just find the screen space in portrait mode...odd. There is so much space on the top/bottom and can't use it. I know HC is more for landscape mode, but I don't use it in that mode much. I'd like to see ICS too but since we just got this update, I won't hold my breath. lol. I'm going to do a little research today to find out about the notification bar and I'll report back if I find anything of interest.

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Here's another question for ya...after doing a little research, it dawned on me that we don't have the HC lockscreen.

Also, after reading Sprint's release notes, we can now use our pen as a stylus. That is awesome in my book!
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Here's another question for ya...after doing a little research, it dawned on me that we don't have the HC lockscreen.

Also, after reading Sprint's release notes, we can now use our pen as a stylus. That is awesome in my book!
I think the lock screen is another part of the HTC sense part. If we were running a RAW or Google only ver of GB then it would be diff..
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I think the lock screen is another part of the HTC sense part. If we were running a RAW or Google only ver of GB then it would be diff..
I think you are probably right. I saw a bunch of pictures from the Motorola Xoom and their notification bar icons, etc. are totally different. I wish HTC would give us full HC stuff. I hate the lockring.
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Just to let everybody know one more time:
If you accept this OTA, you will not be able to root your view or go back to GB.

Most probably, EVER.
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I did th HC update on the evo view that i bought for the gf.
seems pretty legit but im sure its way too advanced for her now, seeing as she was just getting used to GB.
Overall I liked it, made me a bit jealous because my Galaxy Tab isnt all that great.
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Just to let everybody know one more time:
If you accept this OTA, you will not be able to root your view or go back to GB.

Most probably, EVER.
Globatron now says it's possible to rollback from OTA Honeycomb to Gingerbread.

I haven't seen instructions on how to do this posted yet, but it's great news for those who updated to Honeycomb but either want Gingerbread back or rooted Honeycomb.
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Globatron now says it's possible to rollback from OTA Honeycomb to Gingerbread.

I haven't seen instructions on how to do this posted yet, but it's great news for those who updated to Honeycomb but either want Gingerbread back or rooted Honeycomb.
And Globatron is right.

There are no instructions at the moment.

For now one will need Globatron himself to do it thru the remote connection and restore the tablet to GB, as he did for me yesterday.

I had s-off, cwm and root on my HC.
Then I decided to go back to GB, restored GB Nandroid backup, got softbricked view w/o ability to go into recovery or boot to GB.
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I did th HC update on the evo view that i bought for the gf.
seems pretty legit but im sure its way too advanced for her now, seeing as she was just getting used to GB.
Overall I liked it, made me a bit jealous because my Galaxy Tab isnt all that great.
HC is slick and runs faster.

However, until there will be an option restore hardware buttons and remove software buttons, I am staying with GB.

Dell Streak people got this option already, as I heard.
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Honeycomb works well with the View, granted the apps screen isn't optimized for the screen size (you'll only see part of an app in landscape mode) but all things considered, it runs rather flawless. I almost hated giving this thing away as a gift.
 
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And Globatron is right.

There are no instructions at the moment.

For now one will need Globatron himself to do it thru the remote connection and restore the tablet to GB, as he did for me yesterday.

I had s-off, cwm and root on my HC.
Then I decided to go back to GB, restored GB Nandroid backup, got softbricked view w/o ability to go into recovery or boot to GB.
It looks like he's working on a user-friendly way to rollback now.

Unlocking the bootloader on the View is now officially supported by HTC: HTCdev, which is why rolling back to Gingerbread for root is possible. The past few days have had a lot of great news for View owners.
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HC is slick and runs faster.

However, until there will be an option restore hardware buttons and remove software buttons, I am staying with GB.

Dell Streak people got this option already, as I heard.
Yes it is compared to the Stock GB ROM I put on my tab and i kinda dig the soft buttons. Only upside to my Tab is that I have led flash but the View has 32gb. I had to buy 32gb sd for my Tab :/ oh and its connected with sprint, I don't even have an account with sprint. Don't ask how don't ask why, I just do. It happened after I flashed the GB ROM but I stay on wifi.
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So I got my $230 daily steals EVO view today and immediately put honeycomb on it. Boy am I blown away. Its a shame that HTC didn't have honeycomb on it when it launched and overpriced it so horribly. This is even better and faster and smoother than my galaxy tab 8.9. The lower screen resolution is a bit to get used to coming from my 8.9, but i'm adjusting. I'm really shocked at how smooth the while interface runs.

All of this was typed on my new view by the way
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So I got my $230 daily steals EVO view today and immediately put honeycomb on it. Boy am I blown away. Its a shame that HTC didn't have honeycomb on it when it launched and overpriced it so horribly. This is even better and faster and smoother than my galaxy tab 8.9. The lower screen resolution is a bit to get used to coming from my 8.9, but i'm adjusting. I'm really shocked at how smooth the while interface runs.

All of this was typed on my new view by the way
Yeah, Honeycomb runs great on the View. I'd love to see what Ice Cream Sandwich would be like since it's optimized even better than Honeycomb.

And for those who installed the OTA Honeycomb but either want to rollback to Gingerbread or want S-OFF Honeycomb, globatron has released the procedure over on XDA.
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Yeah can't wait for Ice Cream to come out for the View. I installed the version that they have out for the Amazon Fire even though it's buggy on the Fire it looks promising.
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However, until there will be an option restore hardware buttons and remove software buttons, I am staying with GB.

Dell Streak people got this option already, as I heard.

Agreed, since not seeing any feature for me that justifies losing precious space on a 7" display. Fixed navigation bar on a small display IMO is lame. Fine on my 10" Thrive, but not on the View.

ICS has the ability to use the capacitive buttons, IF the OEM applies them in their firmware. It is apparently not enabled by default.
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I've downloaded and for me there's a few more pluses than minuses, but the minuses are a bit jarring. Had force close issues, not liking the the missing hardware buttons and HBOGo doesn't work (worked with GB) as well as Hulu+
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I've downloaded and for me there's a few more pluses than minuses, but the minuses are a bit jarring. Had force close issues, not liking the the missing hardware buttons and HBOGo doesn't work (worked with GB) as well as Hulu+
I love game emulators on the view and Honeycomb would make the display too small. Same for a lot of movies.

Seems the trade offs are too great, if you use your tablet like I do (games, movies, reading and web). If you use the device and want better pen function, seems HC is the only way to go. I could care less about the pen, so no need.

As mentioned before, my Thrive is dual core and HC, but my Flyer and View both play games the same or faster and higher def Flash video perform better too,

The only game that plays faster on the Thrive is GTA 3, but that app uses the dual cores (per the devs) and has nothing to do with HC. The Droid 3 my son uses is GB and plays just as fast as the Thrive.
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I upgraded to HC due better integration with pen but love everything else about it.
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