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Hello All!

I have been a Blackberry and Windows Mobile user for the last eight years. I am 55% sure that I want to get the Hero but I am not 100% sold. I am also considering the Pre.
I know this sounds crazy, but the absolute #1 thing I need is Internet sharing and tethering capability; even more so than a phone itself. I must be able to connect my phone to my laptop, either by usb or bluetooth, and have it working in less than 30 seconds each time. I currently run Ubuntu 9.4 and Windows Vista/XP. My windows mobile phone works with all of these, and quickly.

I have searched and searched but have found nothing as to wether the Sprint version is capable of thethering.

Can anyone help?

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Hello All!

I have been a Blackberry and Windows Mobile user for the last eight years. I am 55% sure that I want to get the Hero but I am not 100% sold. I am also considering the Pre.
I know this sounds crazy, but the absolute #1 thing I need is Internet sharing and tethering capability; even more so than a phone itself. I must be able to connect my phone to my laptop, either by usb or bluetooth, and have it working in less than 30 seconds each time. I currently run Ubuntu 9.4 and Windows Vista/XP. My windows mobile phone works with all of these, and quickly.

I have searched and searched but have found nothing as to wether the Sprint version is capable of thethering.

Can anyone help?

Thanks!
According to this PDF, http://insidesprintnow.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/hero_gsg.pdf , page 98 has this on mobile network sharing.

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Your device’s data capabilities enable you to use its high-speed data connection as a modem for your laptop computer. You can send and receive email and browse the Internet anywhere on the Nationwide Sprint
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However, I have to question how valid this part is, as I thought Sprint had stopped tethering awhile back, and you couldnt even purchase it as an add on feature. I guess we will find out soon enough.
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Hello All!

I have been a Blackberry and Windows Mobile user for the last eight years. I am 55% sure that I want to get the Hero but I am not 100% sold. I am also considering the Pre.
I know this sounds crazy, but the absolute #1 thing I need is Internet sharing and tethering capability; even more so than a phone itself. I must be able to connect my phone to my laptop, either by usb or bluetooth, and have it working in less than 30 seconds each time. I currently run Ubuntu 9.4 and Windows Vista/XP. My windows mobile phone works with all of these, and quickly.

I have searched and searched but have found nothing as to wether the Sprint version is capable of thethering.

Can anyone help?

Thanks!

Check out an app called PDANet. I've used it with my windows mobile phone for a few years and have been fairly happy. It's been a little quirky, but I think that had more to do with my phone than it did the software. It also support tethering via bluetooth.
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Check out an app called PDANet. I've used it with my windows mobile phone for a few years and have been fairly happy. It's been a little quirky, but I think that had more to do with my phone than it did the software. It also support tethering via bluetooth.
No kidding about the quirky part. It was working very well with my Touch Diamond for over a year, then suddenly its been slower to connect and slower to surf. I got so frustrated that I ended up going out and getting the 3G/4G Franklin wireless dual modem in anticipation of NY getting 4G next year. (Plus the fact that I travel alot to Baltimore and other areas that already have 4G).

Still, I have it as a backup on my cell in case I forget to bring the modem with me. I do believe they have a version that works with Android.

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Thank you for the posts.

Can anyone with a demo Sprint HTC Hero confirm or deny that the phone can/cannot be tethered?

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seeing as it must be on an everything data plan and you CAN NOT have a phone as a modem option added to that plan should sum it up
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I also wanted to know how Sprint see's your phone when its connected to a pc.
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I also wanted to know how Sprint see's your phone when its connected to a pc.
well you need extra software it used to be supplied by sprint but since they dont want you to use it it obviously doesnt work.

This is copied and pasted from a user on the sprint community site

"Sprint does not support or condone using your phone as a modem and it is in their right to terminate your contract if they choose to. "
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Does anyone know which Sprint phone I can get that does have Internet sharing because I need that really badly?
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Does anyone know which Sprint phone I can get that does have Internet sharing because I need that really badly? I suck down like 30gb a month on a $15 data plan.
its not that the phone doesnt support its that sprint wont allow it unless you already have it as an addon to your plan.
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I'm sure Sprint turned off the option to "tether" we just have to wait untill someone finds out how to turn it back on. PDAnet isn't an option for some (MAC users). When we are able to root the Sprint Hero you can use "Wifi Tether" .
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I'm sure Sprint turned off the option to "tether" we just have to wait untill someone finds out how to turn it back on. PDAnet isn't an option for some (MAC users). When we are able to root the Sprint Hero you can use "Wifi Tether" .
Thats the thing though. IF Sprint disabled it, why would it even be IN the manual? Unless of course the manual was a first draft type of thing that went back to Sprint for editing, but there are at least 2 different versions that each have the same stuff (just on different pages).

In my opinion, no tethering options are one of the shortfalls of Sprint.
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There's no tethering because they want to you buy the MiFi or a broadband card and pay for the service.
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There's no tethering because they want to you buy the MiFi or a broadband card and pay for the service.
That much I got.

The point is, you can put the same restrictions on tethering that you would with other mobile broadband. Not that I want caps and overages, but the option to do the same thing without yet another 2 year contract and without having to buy and tote around additional hardware.

We all know they could add it to a plan for 30-60 bucks and people would still use it. The only difference is they dont get to sell more stuff / lock in more contracts.
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I just got off the phone with Sprint.. What it came down to was in order to get the hero you have to get one of their "simply" plans. That's all fine and good until they tell me that you have to get a "Talk" plan and a data plan separately in order to use phone as modem and then pay the extra 15 bucks a month.

All in all after 40 minutes on the phone it came down to if you want to tether you have to call them and have them work their magic in order to make the plan work otherwise you have to get one of the "Simply" plans and not use tethering.

Kind of reminds me of ATT when the iphone came out. someone will crack it

Oh.. and they said you can get it on the 8th not the 11th.. =)
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You can get what on the 8th? The Hero? That I seriously doubt as Sprint has given Best Buy a 2 day exclusive for their Reward Zone Members.

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I just got off the phone with Sprint.. What it came down to was in order to get the hero you have to get one of their "simply" plans. That's all fine and good until they tell me that you have to get a "Talk" plan and a data plan separately in order to use phone as modem and then pay the extra 15 bucks a month.

All in all after 40 minutes on the phone it came down to if you want to tether you have to call them and have them work their magic in order to make the plan work otherwise you have to get one of the "Simply" plans and not use tethering.

Kind of reminds me of ATT when the iphone came out. someone will crack it

Oh.. and they said you can get it on the 8th not the 11th.. =)
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You can get what on the 8th? The Hero? That I seriously doubt as Sprint has given Best Buy a 2 day exclusive for their Reward Zone Members.
Just goin by what they said.. More than welcome to call em yourself
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Just goin by what they said.. More than welcome to call em yourself
Sarah, over at the Sprint forums has already tried to kill this rumor. She more or less flat out said Sprint (in all forms) would not be selling the Hero until the 11th. That included Corporate stores, telesales and online.

It would have made sense to sell it a few days early for Telesales and online since they would have to mail it out anyways and it would take a few days, but she said she checked with various sources and confirmed that it would not be sold proir to the 11th by anyone at Sprint.
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I'm sure Sprint turned off the option to "tether" we just have to wait untill someone finds out how to turn it back on. PDAnet isn't an option for some (MAC users). When we are able to root the Sprint Hero you can use "Wifi Tether" .
Any idea if rooting the Sprint Hero will be doable/the same as rooting a regular Hero? I was wondering if there is any reason to think Sprint did anything to make it harder/not possible to root their Hero.
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Any idea if rooting the Sprint Hero will be doable/the same as rooting a regular Hero? I was wondering if there is any reason to think Sprint did anything to make it harder/not possible to root their Hero.

I would image that someone will figure it out but I know that google has made it harder to root the newer devices so maybe they added some protection to this new device. I guess we will have to wait and see.

I wish some of the reviewers would get on here and post so that they can tell us for sure. Seems like they only use the phones for a few days, do a review, and then leave us high and dry. Have you ever tried to contact some of them, they don't even let you, like phonedog. Worthless.
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I've asked phonedog_noah several questions over on Twitter and he's answered them all to the best of his ability.

You are correct they get the phones to review for a limited time. Not being able to use the phones for an extended period affects what they can and can't report. Because of this I'll hold off selling my Tour until I'm sure the Hero lives up to the hype.
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I've asked phonedog_noah several questions over on Twitter and he's answered them all to the best of his ability.
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This may be true as I have not found their instructions for twitter communication. I looked under contact us and they don't even have it, searched the forums, found nothing, and then went to droiddog which is even worse. - People have questions, shut up commenting for once and answer them. - rant switch off-
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I've asked phonedog_noah several questions over on Twitter and he's answered them all to the best of his ability.

You are correct they get the phones to review for a limited time. Not being able to use the phones for an extended period affects what they can and can't report. Because of this I'll hold off selling my Tour until I'm sure the Hero lives up to the hype.
Makes you wonder what would happen if a review unit was sent back rooted.

Would they even notice? Would they stop sending review units? What if it was sent back bricked?
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It clearly says in the Hero Manual for Sprint that Mobile Network Sharing is available on the nationwide sprint network for this device. I can only see this being a typo or something and them changing it before its released. Otherwise, they can't release a manual that's full of false information.
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Makes you wonder what would happen if a review unit was sent back rooted.

Would they even notice? Would they stop sending review units? What if it was sent back bricked?
Honestly I don't think they'd even notice.
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I found the answer!! This is from a PC Mag review. I guess PC modem support it wiped out across the board.

Phone Performance
The phone connects to Sprint's EVDO Rev A network, and to Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g networks for Internet access. I got pretty slow speeds in the built-in browser, around 200 kilobits/sec. Sprint doesn't currently let you use the phone as a PC modem, so I couldn't see if the phone's browser was the problem.
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I found the answer!! This is from a PC Mag review. I guess PC modem support it wiped out across the board.

Phone Performance
The phone connects to Sprint's EVDO Rev A network, and to Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g networks for Internet access. I got pretty slow speeds in the built-in browser, around 200 kilobits/sec. Sprint doesn't currently let you use the phone as a PC modem, so I couldn't see if the phone's browser was the problem.
I suspected this would be the case, but if he was using a review handset, its possible it wasnt available because theres no real account set up for the device.
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just strange they would put it in the manual

i mean.. its established policy from a looong time ago that you couldn't use a phone as a modem

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but then again, the manual is for 1.6 and they're shipping 1.5 so.......

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I use my BB tethering on US Cellular all the time. I'll miss it with the Hero.
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All these posts are annoying ramblings of what seems like people going by the contract rules...

Goto PPCGeeks and make a thread there, i'll watch over it aswell...

With the Touch Pro, you could use it as a wireless modem via wmwifirouter, using a few tweaks you could have multiple wireless connections into your Touch Pro. If not, you could just do a few registry tweaks and get tethering via data cable...

Now wheter this is doable with the Hero, I have no clue. But for those times you're absolutely bored, it does make 5+ hour long drives go by faster when you're the passenger...

Edit: To escape Sprint's warning of tethering when they suspect you of breaching contract and tethering, you simply tell them you are using a program that uses an active connection (i.e. Sprint TV, Pandora, AIM/MSN/Yahoo, etc.) and they really can't prove you wrong.
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Edit: To escape Sprint's warning of tethering when they suspect you of breaching contract and tethering, you simply tell them you are using a program that uses an active connection (i.e. Sprint TV, Pandora, AIM/MSN/Yahoo, etc.) and they really can't prove you wrong.
also.. think of all the widgets ppl are downloading - they check email, tweets, NFL scores, etc etc

each one of these little buggers is going to be almost constantly sending and receiving



makes you think.. what differnece would it make if you tether or not!!
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Goto PPCGeeks and make a thread there, i'll watch over it aswell...

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Rento - WTF! Why the hell would I go to a "Pocket PC Geeks" forum and make a thread. Your post is the most annoying of all. The Hero is an ANDROID phone! PPC used to be what is now Windows Mobile. That is a stupid idea. I am a member of PPC Geeks and have been for much longer than you, I'm sure of it. YOu must not know what your talking about.

On the other hand, you do point out a very good point (flaw) with Windows Mobile - the ability to enable internet sharing and tethering with just one simple registry edit - "You will want to delete ForceCellConnection, which is found under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\InternetSharing\settings." I think most of the users here know that and that you have mistaken the audience of the PPC users with that of the Android class. At this forum, the users are aware of the other platforms and know them intimately. But Android is new... and so here is where we come.
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Rentos post makes so much more sense now that I realize he was talking about WinMo and not Droids.

Thanks for clearing that up Buzz
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i forgot about this post i remember reading it when i was at work and i was like ppcgeeks.com? that a wm site wtf is he talking about? and hwy would people at ppcgeeks know about android?
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i forgot about this post i remember reading it when i was at work and i was like ppcgeeks.com? that a wm site wtf is he talking about? and hwy would people at ppcgeeks know about android?
A lot. There's also talk opening a Sprint Hero forum on the site.
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In that case I stand corrected
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Thank you for the posts.

Can anyone with a demo Sprint HTC Hero confirm or deny that the phone can/cannot be tethered?

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I have tethering working on my Sprint Hero via PDAnet. I've used PDAnet on Palm for years, and it seems to work quite well on the Hero. The install was a dream.

You can get it here for $29.00: PdaNet -- Use your Android as a USB Modem
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Old November 20th, 2009, 11:46 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I have tethering working on my Sprint Hero via PDAnet. I've used PDAnet on Palm for years, and it seems to work quite well on the Hero. The install was a dream.

You can get it here for $29.00: PdaNet -- Use your Android as a USB Modem

My Sprint Hero only has Andriod V1.5 and I have not seen V2 out yet. PDAnet only supports Android V2 so how are you running it?
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My Sprint Hero only has Andriod V1.5 and I have not seen V2 out yet. PDAnet only supports Android V2 so how are you running it?
I've got v1.5 and it's working. What can I tell you....
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I've got v1.5 and it's working. What can I tell you....
I am having a really annoying error with it where every time I click connect on my phone, it asks if i want to go to the webpage to install it on my computer...its already installed on my computer. If I click yes, it will take me to the webpage and if I click no, nothing happens. Did this happen to you?
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I am having a really annoying error with it where every time I click connect on my phone, it asks if i want to go to the webpage to install it on my computer...its already installed on my computer. If I click yes, it will take me to the webpage and if I click no, nothing happens. Did this happen to you?
Sounds like the problem's on your computer, not your phone. I'm running WinXP. Try uninstalling and reinstalling on the computer, then be sure PDA desktop is running AND PDA on the phone is running before you plug in the USB.
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My Sprint Hero only has Andriod V1.5 and I have not seen V2 out yet. PDAnet only supports Android V2 so how are you running it?
No, that's wrong. Check their webpage again. PDANet works fine with 1.5 - I'm running it and it works like a dream. What's only supported in Android 2.0 is Bluetooth tethering. Until we get 2.0 we're limited to USB tethering.
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i've got v1.5 and it's working. What can i tell you....
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Does anyone know which Sprint phone I can get that does have Internet sharing because I need that really badly?

I had no problems tethering my Instinct to my laptop.
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What download and upload speeds are you getting with the hero and pda software?
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Decent, but not earth-shattering. Streaming audio works fine, but streaming video is pushing your luck.
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Dont bother with PDAnet. You can tether your device without paying that fee. See

http://androidforums.com/htc-hero/12496-guide-usb-tether-sprint-htc-hero-cdma.html
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I use PDAnet on my 1.5 Sprint Hero with no problems. Definitely don't pay any fees to use it either.

edit: getting 2.0+ Mbps down and 650 Kbps up.
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