I know everyone is tired of the Hero Froyo threads, but since we're for sure not getting it, there is no need for speculation. My question is after this will you ever buy another HTC product? Lets be honest, it wouldnt take much to augment Froyo for the Hero, especially since they are releasing it for the Evo, which also uses a CDMA radio. But HTC/Sprint doesn't care at all. I personally will never buy another HTC product, because after less than a year, they probably won't support it anymore. Whats your opinion?
I am another one for sure that will never buy another HTC. The phone from day one has had nothing but problems. From chipping paint on the end key, dust under the screen, to keyboard lag and phone lag... the list goes on. Now we get 2.1 the fix all cure all and it makes the phone even worse. Now they tell us less then a year later no 2.2. Fine I understand the hardware limitations trust me i do but fix the phone. On top of 2.1 HTC has to put there sence on top with not giving the basic fetures of 2.1. Voice to text, New lock screen, etc without us using apps to get them.
Do you hear how stupid that sounds we have to use apps to get the basic 2.1.
So for that and so many other reasons HTC will never see another hard earned American dollar of mine. I just wonder what would happen if other bussiness where run like this.
I know everyone is tired of the Hero Froyo threads, but since we're for sure not getting it, there is no need for speculation. My question is after this will you ever buy another HTC product? Lets be honest, it wouldnt take much to augment Froyo for the Hero, especially since they are releasing it for the Evo, which also uses a CDMA radio. But HTC/Sprint doesn't care at all. I personally will never buy another HTC product, because after less than a year, they probably won't support it anymore. Whats your opinion?
Yes I would. I am running stock 2.1 and have no problems with my Hero. I have no lag, battery lasts more than one day, everything works as it should. I would by another HTC phone down the road, but for now I am enjoying my Hero.
I will certainly take caution in future HTC purchases. I've said I'd never buy another product from a certain brand before and years later I do.
But for the immediate future, and until I hear about something extraordinary from HTC, I'll stay clear.
i would buy another HTC phone. this is my 3rd HTC phone. i don't really have any issue with the hero. it works well enough for me. could it be better? sure. it could also have windows mobile and then REALLY suck. I would like to hope that it's become fairly clear that to compete with an android phone, you will need some decent hardware specs behind it. and even when you get them, you'll still see issues, and fixes that don't fix those issues, etc. that's the nature of phones in general these days. but saying you will never buy another HTC? i'm pretty sure if you had gone with a samsung moment, you'd hate it more...or a palm pre, etc.
HELL YES. I have been very happy with the 2 Heros I have. One on 1.5 and one on 2.1. Have I had some issues? Sure, but they were small and easily worked through.
My room mate has the hero on 1.5 and she has no plans to upgrade. If it hadn't been for me however she would probably be complaining about never buying an HTC phone again.
I think Apple has a good point that there are a very large group of people that shouldn't have a very customizable smart phone, Apple will hold your hand and feed you an easy to use device.
Android devices on the other hand are very much hands on, you figure out what works best for you and you figure out how to implement what works best.
Its not for everyone.
As for 2.2, it will be able to run on the Hero, you just have to figure out how to implement it.
Well, I never for a minute expected the Hero to get 2.2 officially, so that's a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. And certainly the Hero's been far from perfect, but I wouldn't write off further HTC purchases based on it. If my contract was ending soon, for instance, I'd get a Droid Incredible in a heartbeat. I've spent time playing with a friend's Incredible, and that's a very solid piece of gadgetry.
yep, I'd buy another HTC phone.. My Hero runs great..does everything I want it to do and more.. I can have the Vanilla lock screen IF I want it by simply flashing an update... that's ONE of the benefits to being rooted.. another is.. Cyanogen is porting FroYo to the Hero..
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Despite the problems I've had, I absolutely love my phone. I think as far as quality goes, maybe not so much with this particular device, Htc is among the greatest. Those of you who complain about updates/support keep in mind this was one of the first real android phones, Android as a whole is exploding in popularity as it is somewhat new. I believe Htc is just struggling to stay ahead of the game with hardware and just don't have the time to keep our phones up to date. I'm sure in the future it will go much better as Android will eventually slow in growth and companies like Htc will have more time and knowledge to sink into year old devices.
I'm happy with mine. It's my fourth HTC phone and I've had no hardware problems. I just got it, and I feel its a solid build. No Froyo from Sprint? So what. There wasn't WinMob 6.5 update for the HTC Touch I used for 2 years either. It didn't stop me. That's what forums like this one, PPCGeeks and xda are all about. I'll have 2.2 on my Hero, and when the 3.0 HTC whatever comes out next year, I'll consider it.
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Yes, I would buy another HTC product. I really hope that they make a dual core phone and offer it through Sprint before my upgrade is eligible next March. (and that it is not as huge as the Evo)
People wouldn't be crying about not getting Froyo if Google never created it...
Is it HTC's fault that Android moves ahead this quickly? What if, like Apple, google came out with 1 update a year? It hasn't been a year and therefore you would have had no fixes for your phone by now. Be happy you got any.
Hmm, the big choice would be between HTC, Motorola, and Samsung, since those are the big 3 phone manufacturers for android. Samsung seems to build phones that look good on paper, but are buggy and not supported (and feel like crap). Motorola, I just don't like. And HTC seems to build durable phones, and actually support the majority of them until they're out of date (which doesn't take long with ANY phone).
So yes, I'd buy an HTC phone again. I wouldn't buy one the minute it comes out, as I'd rather let other people work out the bugs and find all the hardware problems that need to be fixed (as with any other phone made by anyone else). Much like the Evo, I won't get until October, because by then the manufacturing defects will be worked out, it'll be upgraded a bit, and the dev community will be way above where it already is.
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I'd buy another HTC phone, absolutely. The amount of entertainment, organization and efficiency this phone has brought me is unmatched by any other phone I've had. I think if I had the mentality that HTC owed me something after I bought a phone I had the spec's on at the time of purchase, then maybe I'd be misguidedly upset.
The hero was my first Android phone...After using this I will switch contracts if necessary to use Google's phone, whatever it may be. It's just a cut above the rest of the android lineup.
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Sorry for the long post.
This is my first smart phone, my first Android, and my first HTC. Before this, I'd had a Nokia, Kyocera, two Motorolas and 2 loaner LGs when my Motos died.
Of the phones I've had in the past...
Nokia's screen went dead. Phone still worked, just had no screen. This was 8 months in to a 2yr contract.
Kyocera's battery broke. The battery was the back cover, and the tabs that hold it in place snapped. 23 months into contract, scotch tape worked for a month.
Motorola #1 was my first phone with a camera, purchased in 2006. The USB port stopped functioning. Could not charge phone or transfer contacts. This happened 23 months in, borrowed my mother's old LG (she upgraded a few months prior).
LG#1 was stripped down flip phone that would make calls, send texts, and about nothing else. It lasted me the month it needed to.
Motorola #2 had buttons on the right side die. This means my contacts, "accept changes" button, end call, and right navigation button died. This was a year and a half into my contract. Fortunately, the insurance on the phone covered a replacement since my MFG warranty was gone.
LG#2 was another stripped down flip phone that I had as a loaner while Moto#2 was being replaced. Lasted the two weeks I needed it.
Motorola #2.5 was the replacement of #2, lasted 6 months until contract expired.
My Hero has been a great phone so far. Does it have its problems? Yes, but the fact is that aside from a bit of lag and short battery life, it does everything I ask it to, it's well made, and the software on it is head and shoulders above the other phones I've owned.
Am I ticked that we won't get 2.2 Official? Maybe. But only because I've not yet rooted. My phone has a single scratch on the menu key, and that's my fault. No other cosmetic damage. Based on that fact, yes I would consider another HTC.
I have 18 months with it still in contract so I have plenty of time to continue watching other companies and how they update their update schedules. I've already heard that Google will be cutting back to two updates a year, which should alleviate some of the stress on the OEMs to rush the updates. Time will tell what I get next, but HTC is a contender.
Any phone is soon outdated by industry standards.(Moore's law) So I will almost bet that the EVO will lose it's appeal in less than a year. I agree with the CP. Android for me.
Also the majority of people pushed for 2.1 so we have to deal with what we get. Personally, I have not had any issues. I do miss the little droid waving at me at startup though.
Oh, YES for me also. HTC
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They better make some major improvements in the future if they want me as a customer. I am not one to whine and bitch, and I don't care if my device is outdated.
However, I will whine and bitch when an upgrade is released that makes it impossible to do things with ease, like make a call (see call lag), type a text message (see keyboard lag), and f*ck up bluetooth.
Everyone is saying that the sprint Hero is too outdated to run froyo, but the T-mobile G2 is getting froyo and they are the same phone. It has nothing to do with the hardware not being able to run froyo its that sprint/htc are trying to force people to buy the Evo. Sprint is potentially going out of business in coming years and by forcing people to pay an extra $120 dollars a year and get absolutely nothing in return (most Evo users do not live in a 4g area), sprint can make a lot of money. If you get millions of people to pay you for a service that they cant actually use, you only make money.
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Everyone is saying that the sprint Hero is too outdated to run froyo, but the T-mobile G2 is getting froyo and they are the same phone. It has nothing to do with the hardware not being able to run froyo its that sprint/htc are trying to force people to buy the Evo. Sprint is potentially going out of business in coming years and buy forcing people to pay an extra $120 dollars a year and get absolutely nothing in return (most Evo users do not live in a 4g area), sprint can make a lot of money. If you get millions of people to pay you for a service that they cant actually use, you only make money.
Sprint has to get more money out of us bandwith hogs, especially with new evo owners sucking it all up. I personally think the extra 10 bucks would be well worth it if you were in an area with the 4g coverage. That said, sprint is probably the highest value out of the major carriers and has awesome incentives (1 year upgrades).
Also, it takes hardly any more time to root/rom your phone (even once froyo is ported to us) than it does to run an official Ruu upgrade from sprint/htc. Therefore, nobody should really be bitching about us not getting an official 2.2 release as the people who really want it will get it anyways.
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No. At least, not as they stand at the moment.
I think they're still in the box-shifting mentality, turning new phones out every other week, but not being able to provide satisfactory support and service for existing models. I don't think they've quite made the leap to the same standards set by others who've had their brands on the market for much longer.
I previously owned an N95 8Gb and more or less swore off buying another Nokia, until I spent the past few months trying to live with my Hero.
HTC's product support and build quality is woeful. Nokia, in my experience, have at least been satisfactory in providing decent after sale support, even if the phone itself was prone to failure at times.
A few months ago, there was just no way I'd have considered another Android-based phone, because of the lack of standard feature support. Having seen some of these concerns addressed with 2.2, I'm willing to give another Android handset a shot - but mostly because I don't want a Symbian OS phone, a Blackberry, an iPhone or a Windows Mobile phone. Having had my fingers burned already with the Hero, though, I'm wary as to what would be suitable to replace it. I've always trusted Sony Ericsson, but the reviews of the X10 series has left me cold.
Everyone is saying that the sprint Hero is too outdated to run froyo, but the T-mobile G2 is getting froyo and they are the same phone. It has nothing to do with the hardware not being able to run froyo its that sprint/htc are trying to force people to buy the Evo. Sprint is potentially going out of business in coming years and buy forcing people to pay an extra $120 dollars a year and get absolutely nothing in return (most Evo users do not live in a 4g area), sprint can make a lot of money. If you get millions of people to pay you for a service that they cant actually use, you only make money.
First off, Sprint has been around for 10+ years. I don't think they're going anywhere. For the people who buy the Evo without 4g coverage, that on them. They should of waited for 4g to be available in their area.
As far as getting another HTC product, yes I will stay with HTC.
If you guys are having so much problems with your phone, then get a different phone, or root it. I have been rooted for a few months now and I don't have any problems with my Hero. It's snappy, no lag, and very customizable. I love my hero, but I will be switching to the Evo or something newer and better when it comes out.
First off, Sprint has been around for 10+ years. I don't think they're going anywhere. For the people who buy the Evo without 4g coverage, that on them. They should of waited for 4g to be available in their area.
As far as getting another HTC product, yes I will stay with HTC.
If you guys are having so much problems with your phone, then get a different phone, or root it. I have been rooted for a few months now and I don't have any problems with my Hero. It's snappy, no lag, and very customizable. I love my hero, but I will be switching to the Evo or something newer and better when it comes out.
P.S. 4g has been live for month in StL.
Google sprint going out of business. They're probably going to file bankruptcy in a few years. I thought it was pretty well known. And regarding the 10+ years thing ... remember MCI?
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Google sprint going out of business. They're probably going to file bankruptcy in a few years. I thought it was pretty well known. And regarding the 10+ years thing ... remember MCI?
sprint did post a hefty profit last fiscal year soooo?
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The only complaint I have about the Hero is that it's outdated, but that's not the fault of HTC or anyone else.
Will I buy another HTC, sure!
Right on! It's like buying a car and next years model has bluetooth. Will you never buy another XXX because they are advancing their technology...Hopefully ppl realize there is always something better/more advanced on the horizon. That is how we got to this point in technology.
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People wouldn't be crying about not getting Froyo if Google never created it...
Is it HTC's fault that Android moves ahead this quickly? What if, like Apple, google came out with 1 update a year? It hasn't been a year and therefore you would have had no fixes for your phone by now. Be happy you got any.
Just like I am sure there will be Froyo upgrade complaints like there was 2.1 and so on...You either have to know how to work with what you got or pay the cost to be the boss.
Too many ppl jump the gun and don't fully research before they do things. And then proceed to point fingers and forget about thumbs!
I'm not ready to add HTC to my "dead to me" list, but they're close. I'm not really sure how a smartphone company can afford to make me wish for my dumb phone back, but there's days that my Hero does just that. They've also soured me on Android for a while.
I don't even really care about 2.2; I get that you have to EOL products for business reasons. I just want the damn thing to work right with the current firmware.
Definately! We've had two Hero's in our house for six months with no problems. My wife had the Touch Diamond for a year before the Hero, no problems except no SD card. Sometimes I wonder what people's expectations are but I would definately purchase htc again. TC
I am another one for sure that will never buy another HTC. The phone from day one has had nothing but problems. From chipping paint on the end key, dust under the screen, to keyboard lag and phone lag... the list goes on. Now we get 2.1 the fix all cure all and it makes the phone even worse. Now they tell us less then a year later no 2.2. Fine I understand the hardware limitations trust me i do but fix the phone. On top of 2.1 HTC has to put there sence on top with not giving the basic fetures of 2.1. Voice to text, New lock screen, etc without us using apps to get them.
Do you hear how stupid that sounds we have to use apps to get the basic 2.1.
So for that and so many other reasons HTC will never see another hard earned American dollar of mine. I just wonder what would happen if other bussiness where run like this.
I agree with you. The phone has been a problem especially since the 2.1 update. I have to say that I will buy any top phone that Sprint has. So yes HTC makes me sick, but Sprint has the cheaper plans and the Evo is the top phone. So there you go.
I had an iPhone 3G for 2 years and wanted out because I didn't want Apple telling me what I could or couldn't do with my phone. I switched to the Evo 8 months ag0 (on Sprint) and I am very unhappy. Almost all the apps are twitchy and undependable, app quality is low, most of the phones functions stop working properly at one time or another, battery life is abysmal, yada, yada, yada. I am seriously considering eating the cancellation charge and going back to the iPhone. I still use my old 3G for many things (except phone calls) and it is fast and dependable. OK I can't add external memory, I can't switch batteries, there is no Flash capability, but the damn thing works and works well, almost without fail. Hardware wise the iPhone has the edge and there is no comparison between app quality in the iPhone market and the Android market; Apple wins hand down, and I hate to say that because I have many gripes with Apple, but when I spend my money I want a decent return for my dollar and right now Apple beats Android convincingly.
I have had a Sprint HTC Hero for nearly eighteen months now and I have been delighted with it. It has never failed me, the battery life, even before I rooted it, was very good with stock Android 2.1 and even good with the now ancient Android 1.5. The quality of the hardware has always struck me as top notch and it has survived a lot of heavy usage with no ill effects that I can see. The above poster seems to be complaining more about the quality of the apps in the Android Market than an HTC product itself. That being said, if he is more happy with Apple products, then more power to him. I will stick with Android and its infinite abilities to tweak and solve any issues that might have been mentioned in the above post.
After I rooted my Sprint HTC Hero, I subsequently flashed Android 2.2 and then Android 2.3 ROMs onto it and have marveled at how they breathed new life into aging hardware. Even today, my handset is snappy, battery efficient, and runs all of the apps that I use on a daily basis with ease. I am voting with my wallet on HTC by purchasing a Sprint HTC EVO 3D for myself and my wife will get a Sprint HTC EVO 4G as an upgrade from her Sprint Palm Pre. My venerable Sprint HTC Hero will live on as a personal media player and will still be tweaked with whatever new ROM comes out next. I think HTC has taken great strides with relaxing their bootloader policy and their per app basis OTA updates have sped the rate of glitch repair on new handsets to a new level. So, the answer is a resounding yes to the original poster's question.
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^^^Ditto and Apple can stick it where the sun don't shine, Nomadster says he regrets saying that about Apple, and does not like apple, and strings off a bunch of things that he hates about apple, then does the same for the EVO, so looks like you have to pick your poison. Well said LBP I agree.
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I have had a Sprint HTC Hero for nearly eighteen months now and I have been delighted with it. It has never failed me, the battery life, even before I rooted it, was very good with stock Android 2.1 and even good with the now ancient Android 1.5. The quality of the hardware has always struck me as top notch and it has survived a lot of heavy usage with no ill effects that I can see. The above poster seems to be complaining more about the quality of the apps in the Android Market than an HTC product itself. That being said, if he is more happy with Apple products, then more power to him. I will stick with Android and its infinite abilities to tweak and solve any issues that might have been mentioned in the above post.
After I rooted my Sprint HTC Hero, I subsequently flashed Android 2.2 and then Android 2.3 ROMs onto it and have marveled at how they breathed new life into aging hardware. Even today, my handset is snappy, battery efficient, and runs all of the apps that I use on a daily basis with ease. I am voting with my wallet on HTC by purchasing a Sprint HTC EVO 3D for myself and my wife will get a Sprint HTC EVO 4G as an upgrade from her Sprint Palm Pre. My venerable Sprint HTC Hero will live on as a personal media player and will still be tweaked with whatever new ROM comes out next. I think HTC has taken great strides with relaxing their bootloader policy and their per app basis OTA updates have sped the rate of glitch repair on new handsets to a new level. So, the answer is a resounding yes to the original poster's question.
I must weigh in here on this interesting topic. Well about six months into owning my Hero I was very disappointed with it. I hated the fact that the only fix HTC would offer was a hard reset. But the reality was it was the rooted version of the software I was using. The quality of the hardware has been pretty good. I read once before about someone complaining about the telephone half of the phone and I must say that my telephone is unreliable. But the computer side and all that goes with it is very stable and works as advertised. So I would buy another HTC product, root it right away and off I go. I think some of the bad rap I may have given the phone was do to my lack of knowledge of Android. But I can move around it pretty well now and the device is very solid. When I updated to the 2.1 rooted my battery life doubled and the device works well. Have an occasional problem with the camera after a picture is taken it will go back to the home screen but like the phone I have learned to live with these short comings. But for a piece of hardware I have to say solid. My next phone will probably be an HTC something. The Evo is is nice but too big. The Hero is good but I would like it to be a little bigger and have more processing power. That to me would be the perfect device...............
Will you ever buy another HTC product?
