This is my first post, and i have not introduced myself.
I have owned a blackberry curve for a while, and i felt daring as my contract ended so i upgraded to an HTC Hero. I love this phone more than anything.
Recently, i tried installing a rom, I believe it was one of JAC's roms, and i was told to update the Radio. I was in the middle of updating the radio and the phone said it was complete, so i hit reboot. Instead of hitting reboot with the trackball as one of the option, i hit home and back, and the unboxing screen came up and i figured that was okay. i came back twenty minutes later, tried turning on my phone, and to no avail. I'm horrified I really hope it is not bricked, its only been 29 days..
I took the battery out, plugged in the charger, and then the battery and the amber led is on, so there is some progress!
I also tried hard resetting (home and back, followed by end key) and the amber led turns off, then turns on soon.
Any ideas, if not, that is fine.
Disregard the PM..
Anyway, i attempted to the flash JACHEROSki v2.0, but before i even thought about doing that, i flashed the radio v. 2.22.19 and an spl.
and I am fairly sure it is a CDMA rom.
The website from where I downloaded it from is Index of /justanotherdev
JACHEROSki 2.0..
I guess I assumed it was a hero rom considering it said hero..
well if u tried to flash a "MyTouch" rom which is a gsm rom then yes u prolly bricked ur phone and i wouldn't expect sprint to do anything but chuckle and say "sorry but u voided ur warranty" flashing unauthorized software onto ur phone. U will most likely have to buy a new one. Insurance won't cover it either as this was intentionally misused. Sorry bro but next time check check and check again to make sure what u r flashing is for CDMA Hero. Yes as u have discovered there r Heros for GSM as well which have completely different radios and methods of upgrading software.
if you take it to sprint/htc, say you have no idea what the hell happened, it just stopped working. Do NOT mention rooting, or adding a custom ROM. If you're extremely lucky, you'll get it covered under insurance or warranty
Thanks for the answers guys. Appreciate the help..I really hope the playing dumb idea works..it worked when I bricked my blackberry..let's hope, i'll update tomorrow, and tomorrow is my last day of my thirty day warranty
edit: I can't remove anything off the sd as ruu won't detect it because my pc won't either
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Thanks for the answers guys. Appreciate the help..I really hope the playing dumb idea works..it worked when I bricked my blackberry..let's hope, i'll update tomorrow, and tomorrow is my last day of my thirty day warranty
edit: I can't remove anything off the sd as ruu won't detect it because my pc won't either
u don't have an micro sd adapter or usb card reader? Yeah like they said IF ur lucky and they buy ur "i don't know wat happened to it" plea then yes to cover all ur bases remove any obvious trace of rooting/romming from the sd card. With the phone not even being able to be hard reset or anything they r prolly gonna suspect somethin fishy as this is the number one way to brick ur phone and they know that so dont' give them any clues.
to take it out of your phone pop the back cover off your phone then right side i think it should say microsd and its right there push the card down and it will pop out..
if thats not what your asking sorry for misunderstanding your post
Last edited by jersey221; February 28th, 2010 at 11:15 PM.
Thats exactly what I was asking! Thank you very much. What do you think sprint would say if I just removed the sd entirely..? I've been there numerous times, and they don't seem technologically educated, they just folllow manuals..
just don't take the card, it's that easy, take it out and leave it out. then when you go to take it in, tell them you were updating the profile or something and then the screen went black, froze up, you tried to restart and then it is where it is now... make it sound semi complicated but that you have not a damn clue what any of it means... you'll get what you want that way... and if you've already bricked a phone in the past, you gotta start taking more care of things, the hero is fairly hard to brick, so you gotta start being careful
This is why it bugs me that everytime someone complains about lag on thier phone they get 5 replies of "Just root it!!!". I've done all my reading and I'm fairly certain I could root my phone without a problem, but I don't feel it needs it yet, and I don't have a capable computer anyhow(Windows 2000). But the average person doesn't do all the required reading, especially when everyone says how easy it is and it's "nearly" impossible to brick the phone.
I guess I'm out of the norm here, but if you messed it up I think you've got to own up to it. It's fraud otherwise.
If you aren't prepared to pay for the consequences by rooting and messing with a phone then you shouldn't be doing it.
But you've done it in the past (bricked and gotten the phone replaced) so I'm sure I'm falling on deaf ears.
Anyone else feel like it's unethical to feign ignorance and have Sprint or HTC pay for the damages?
No. I don't feel it is unethical. Dumb, but not unethical.
Dude with the messed up phone. Assuming you have the insurance from Sprint. Drop that thing in the river, and tell them you lost it. (Take your memory card out).
EDIT: Don't drop it in the river... Pull the battery, and throw it in a drawer...
This is why it bugs me that everytime someone complains about lag on thier phone they get 5 replies of "Just root it!!!". I've done all my reading and I'm fairly certain I could root my phone without a problem, but I don't feel it needs it yet, and I don't have a capable computer anyhow(Windows 2000). But the average person doesn't do all the required reading, especially when everyone says how easy it is and it's "nearly" impossible to brick the phone.
we tell someone to root for certain reasons..
but we don't tell them to load up GSM Rom's to their phones...
some people need to learn first..
he wouldn't have a bricked phone if he didn't read that the ROM he flashed was for the gsm hero...
No. I don't feel it is unethical. Dumb, but not unethical.
Dude with the messed up phone. Assuming you have the insurance from Sprint. Drop that thing in the river, and tell them you lost it. (Take your memory card out).
EDIT: Don't drop it in the river... Pull the battery, and throw it in a drawer...
Not sure you know the meaning of unethical, by your post.... It is unethical and I completely agree... You should own up and buy a new phone. Anyone want to know why their rate per month isnt cheaper, people bricking phones and expecting the carrierr to eat the cost... Same as shoplifting, a few people spoil it for the rest of us
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im looking forward to hearing back from this guy. I wanna know if he pulled it off. I am not sure if they can check the files and see if it was tampered with if its bricked. If they can, then he's screwed even if he lied.
This is why it bugs me that everytime someone complains about lag on thier phone they get 5 replies of "Just root it!!!". I've done all my reading and I'm fairly certain I could root my phone without a problem, but I don't feel it needs it yet, and I don't have a capable computer anyhow(Windows 2000). But the average person doesn't do all the required reading, especially when everyone says how easy it is and it's "nearly" impossible to brick the phone.
it is hard to brick a hero a way to do it is to flash a gsm radio or rom which he did it is HIS fault for not reading about the rom.
and rooting IS very easy its a copy and paste thing if you read directions word by word and dont skip anything you wont brick your phone.
I guess I'm out of the norm here, but if you messed it up I think you've got to own up to it. It's fraud otherwise.
If you aren't prepared to pay for the consequences by rooting and messing with a phone then you shouldn't be doing it.
But you've done it in the past (bricked and gotten the phone replaced) so I'm sure I'm falling on deaf ears.
Anyone else feel like it's unethical to feign ignorance and have Sprint or HTC pay for the damages?
Unethical... I guess, but all these big corporations don't exactly play by the rules. They are always out to get you however they can. I say, if you can get away with it, go for it. You pay insurance for a reason. Use it!
Unethical... I guess, but all these big corporations don't exactly play by the rules. They are always out to get you however they can. I say, if you can get away with it, go for it. You pay insurance for a reason. Use it!
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Unethical... I guess, but all these big corporations don't exactly play by the rules. They are always out to get you however they can. I say, if you can get away with it, go for it. You pay insurance for a reason. Use it!
I'm not going to take one side or the other, but, playing Devil's advocate..."You pay insurance for a reason. Use it!". You do pay insurance to protect you from many things. Installing unauthorized roms is not one of them.
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well i would say it was lost too...sprint already put it to me by adding charges for me not using auto draft...wtf is that...i never got a letter or anything by the time i learned about it i calledthem and they said i never responded to them so it meant i was fine with the charges..stupid. unethical? yes but they have screwed me before too in the past
well i would say it was lost too...sprint already put it to me by adding charges for me not using auto draft...wtf is that...i never got a letter or anything by the time i learned about it i calledthem and they said i never responded to them so it meant i was fine with the charges..stupid. unethical? yes but they have screwed me before too in the past
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The ASL charge was relayed on bills (12/09, 01/10 and 02/10, to be exact), a letter was sent to your billing address, and this was debated (HEAVILY) on this message board. If you check pace 2 of your bill *EVERY MONTH* you will be alerted to these changes *BEFORE* they happen. Don't blame Sprint for your failure to see these notices and act on them.
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And to the OP ..... Yeah, you know what, I'm not gonna go there. Let's just say shame on you for wanting someone else to take responsibility for your mistake. Grow up and own up to making a mistake, and then learn to READ AND COMPREHEND what you are doing BEFORE you do it.
Not trying to be mean, but just fed up with people not taking responsiblity for their actions, regardless of something as "trivial" as breaking your phone, or as serious as getting drunk and killing a school bus full of kids.
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I would just report it lost... but I bet its repairable...
Rooting your phone is "unethical" by definition. It voids the warranty for a good reason...
But, unethical or not, our rates are not defined by this, Its the market. Thats why T Mobile lowered their rates... competition... its not because they have more ethical individuals...
When did this turn into a forum for the morality police? What this guy does is between him and his conscience. Unless you have lived your entire life without ever making ONE bad judgment call or questionable decision you have no right to judge someone else on their actions. Whats that they say about glass houses and stones?
That said, I would also like to hear back from him. I'm extremely curious as to whether Sprint could tell if he flashed the ROM.
This is why it bugs me that everytime someone complains about lag on thier phone they get 5 replies of "Just root it!!!". I've done all my reading and I'm fairly certain I could root my phone without a problem, but I don't feel it needs it yet, and I don't have a capable computer anyhow(Windows 2000). But the average person doesn't do all the required reading, especially when everyone says how easy it is and it's "nearly" impossible to brick the phone.
But if you were to actually look in the threads that talk about rooting you would know that those threads say:
How is rooting a phone THAT I BOUGHT and OWN "unethical"?
It's not the rooting thats unethical, but lying to Sprint and trying to get them to replace the phone that you broke doing what your not supposed to do. Thats like putting nitrous on your car, blowing the engine and expecting the dealership to repair......
It's not the rooting thats unethical, but lying to Sprint and trying to get them to replace the phone that you broke doing what your not supposed to do. Thats like putting nitrous on your car, blowing the engine and expecting the dealership to repair......
That I agree with.. But that isn't what Jose said.
Jose said the very ROOTING of your phone is unethical.
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How is rooting a phone THAT I BOUGHT and OWN "unethical"?
go ask Sprint... They don't like when you do it. Maybe because it opens the system and let you do whatever you want with it including compromising the system, break it and then we go ask Sprint for help... among other reasons... is it fair? I think its not, but those are the rules of the game... Do I play by them? Nope
yes, it was a completely unethical thing to do, but I pulled it off. For those of you who asked, no, it is not possible for sprint to check if you rooted. Although, this was only my situation and my "motherboard was completely fried," if that makes sense..but they did not detect it for me, but moe was completely bricked so that could be ONE obvious reason. And for those who suggest I man up and pay, I would rather do thatthan lie, but my situation just wouldn't work out like that. Thanks for the help, I will make sure to read next time, and again, sorry.
So your full of crap....You chose not to man up, you chose to lie and cheat. So don't come on here acting all high and noble......
Just curious to know how much money he took from your pocket? Take a chill. I applaud the guy for using the system to his advantage. If he were a politician, we'd probably vote him into office.
Android noob, with a possibly bricked phone =l
I really hope it is not bricked, its only been 29 days..
