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Old March 10th, 2010, 10:29 PM   #51 (permalink)
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my hero is running 4.4 it lights my cigg when im done with my girl lol
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Im from 2 weeks in the future. 2.1 IS PUSHED BACK UNTIL JUNE 30.
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Boy this thread sure was hijacked for our amusement .. lol
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Im from 2 weeks in the future. 2.1 IS PUSHED BACK UNTIL JUNE 30.
I'm from July 1 in the future ... still no 2.1 so I called care and what do you think they said? Yup, you guessed it .... 2 MORE WEEKS.
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my hero is running 4.4 it lights my cigg when im done with my girl lol
I'm running 4.5 (it came on July 2), and, err how do I say this, it is my girl ...
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I can't seem to find the Time-Travel App on the market anywhere. Where do I download it? Oh, and by the way if it requires Android 1.6 or later to run I am going to scream! I am in hell.
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Old March 12th, 2010, 07:34 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Ok I recently talked to a sprint worker on Sprint customer chat about a issue I had with my hero and they asked if I had anymore questions. I asked them about Android 2.1 and they said "that will be released sometime in March". So if it isn't released THIS month, then ill be pissed and talk to that customer service lady again for lying to me lol
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Ok I recently talked to a sprint worker on Sprint customer chat about a issue I had with my hero and they asked if I had anymore questions. I asked them about Android 2.1 and they said "that will be released sometime in March". So if it isn't released THIS month, then ill be pissed and talk to that customer service lady again for lying to me lol
LOL, Customer service don't tend to know anything about updates. How do I know? My girlfriend (and an awful lot of our friends, oddly enough) works in customer service, or did until their call center switched to business support earlier this year. They never had any scoop on updates beforehand.
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Yea, well hopefully this IS for us and not the GSM Hero. If not late March, should be April.


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We're DEFINITELY NOT getting 2.1 this month. It'll most likely be late April to early May. Either way, I don't care. I'm satisfied with my phone and I'm not gonna keep beating myself up like some other people do here about an update I wasn't entitled to in the first place lol.
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We're DEFINITELY NOT getting 2.1 this month. It'll most likely be late April to early May. Either way, I don't care. I'm satisfied with my phone and I'm not gonna keep beating myself up like some other people do here about an update I wasn't entitled to in the first place lol.
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What is 2.1 supposed to actually have or do? What has sprint officially said Its supposed to update?
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I know some body said 2 WEEKS... Or maybe I am going CRAZY?
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news article about april release. although, i'm sure we'll see it actually released around May or...June perhaps because sprint has to 'test' it first.
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We're DEFINITELY NOT getting 2.1 this month. It'll most likely be late April to early May. Either way, I don't care. I'm satisfied with my phone and I'm not gonna keep beating myself up like some other people do here about an update I wasn't entitled to in the first place lol.
Well, here's the thing about Android: the apps market is kinda important. Sure, developers are supposed to use the lowest SDK level that they can, but a lot of them either just use the latest version of Android of the phone they have or need to use a later Android version for some SDK functionality that they want to use. So someone with a phone with 1.5 or 1.6 is missing out more and more on apps that just aren't even available in the market for them.

And buying a Hero (as I see you have) sometime in the last 5 months, you have already been missing out on apps. As each month goes by that 1.5 is out-of-date, less new apps will show up for you. This is essentially the fragmentation issue.

Now I like my Hero right now, but I don't intend to keep it for more than a year, so eventually I'll get a phone with whatever the latest Android version is at that time. But buying a brand new phone and then immediately ending up with a lack of access to new apps within a month of purchase just isn't a great situation. This is the problem with thinking that no one is entitled to get an update. I would expect at least one Android version update for any phone within the first 6 months of that phone being available. And don't tell me to just root...I don't want to even though my profession is a software engineer. As Android gains market share, people like my Mom can end up with an Android phone and someone like that isn't going to root.
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I think we should all start complaining about the ****ing lack of updates... We paid $479 for a phone that doesn't have the latest OS update and that update has been around for months...

Idk whether to blame Sprint or HTC, because i know damn well HTC is adding their HTC bullshit to the phone to try and make it more superior than the original Android home screen. Every company has to add a part of them to a phone... Its annoying me.

Seriously? What is so hard about making this update?
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We paid $479 for a phone that doesn't have the latest OS update and that update has been around for months...
You paid full MSRP? You got ripped off then. I paid only $129 for it and had it on launch day. I'm could care less if 2.1 comes out soon. My phone is nice and snappy now after I rooted it, and it only has to last me until October and then I'll be doing a Premier 1yr upgrade to the latest and greatest that Sprint has to offer anyway.
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Wouldn't it be nice if they could just release a version that doesn't include sense UI? I mean Sense UI is cool and all, but I hear that is what is holding it up.
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I think we should all start complaining about the ****ing lack of updates... We paid $479 for a phone that doesn't have the latest OS update and that update has been around for months...

Idk whether to blame Sprint or HTC, because i know damn well HTC is adding their HTC bullshit to the phone to try and make it more superior than the original Android home screen. Every company has to add a part of them to a phone... Its annoying me.

Seriously? What is so hard about making this update?
I disagree with you. I don't think Sense is BS. I like Android a lot. I've tried it with and without Sense, and I find that Sense enhances my experience with the OS. I am not a developer, and I don't know what is so hard about adapting, testing, or releasing the update. Therefore I have no basis on which to judge. What I do know is that I bought my phone knowing full well that both the hardware and 1.5 were yesterday's tech. I researched my options, and I made my own choice. Neither Sprint nor HTC held a gun to my head, the responsibility for the result is mine alone. I understand all the fragmentation arguments. The bottom line point is, each of us knowingly bought an obsolete phone, by choice, so what do we have to complain about? The update will come when it comes. Patience cures stress.

I've rooted mine and I'm currently running 2.1 with Sense. Everything works for me except VVM, because it is based on a VZW build, but that will be resolved once the Sprint version drops. Everything else works, and works well. I can pretty much all but promise that you are all going to be very happy campers. 2.1 works much smoother and snappier than 1.5 ever did, the browser is faster, Flash10 works well, multi-touch implementation is terrific, and my battery life is much improved. New apps such as Goggles are amazing.

Rooting is not for everyone, I understand the reasons, I get it, no argument. If you want to try rooting, you can get in on this. If not, then patience is your friend. But blaming Sprint or HTC for the choice you yourself made at the time is, IMO, selfish at best, or at worst, delusional. Relax.
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Well, here's the thing about Android: the apps market is kinda important. Sure, developers are supposed to use the lowest SDK level that they can, but a lot of them either just use the latest version of Android of the phone they have or need to use a later Android version for some SDK functionality that they want to use. So someone with a phone with 1.5 or 1.6 is missing out more and more on apps that just aren't even available in the market for them.

And buying a Hero (as I see you have) sometime in the last 5 months, you have already been missing out on apps. As each month goes by that 1.5 is out-of-date, less new apps will show up for you. This is essentially the fragmentation issue.

Now I like my Hero right now, but I don't intend to keep it for more than a year, so eventually I'll get a phone with whatever the latest Android version is at that time. But buying a brand new phone and then immediately ending up with a lack of access to new apps within a month of purchase just isn't a great situation. This is the problem with thinking that no one is entitled to get an update. I would expect at least one Android version update for any phone within the first 6 months of that phone being available. And don't tell me to just root...I don't want to even though my profession is a software engineer. As Android gains market share, people like my Mom can end up with an Android phone and someone like that isn't going to root.
I see your point and sure it makes complete sense but I bought my Hero on the very first day of release. Either way, us Hero users or Android users in general were not guaranteed updates. If we are missing out on apps because we're still running on 1.5 then that's just something we'll have to deal with. We should be grateful that HTC/Google and Sprint are actually giving us an update to 2.1.

PS - Some people here have a lot of odd issues with their phones which I have not encountered with mine yet. I am completely satisfied with my purchase and I wouldn't change it for anything (with exception to the HTC Supersonic whenever that comes out).
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I disagree with you. I don't think Sense is BS. I like Android a lot. I've tried it with and without Sense, and I find that Sense enhances my experience with the OS. I am not a developer, and I don't know what is so hard about adapting, testing, or releasing the update. Therefore I have no basis on which to judge. What I do know is that I bought my phone knowing full well that both the hardware and 1.5 were yesterday's tech. I researched my options, and I made my own choice. Neither Sprint nor HTC held a gun to my head, the responsibility for the result is mine alone. I understand all the fragmentation arguments. The bottom line point is, each of us knowingly bought an obsolete phone, by choice, so what do we have to complain about? The update will come when it comes. Patience cures stress.

I've rooted mine and I'm currently running 2.1 with Sense. Everything works for me except VVM, because it is based on a VZW build, but that will be resolved once the Sprint version drops. Everything else works, and works well. I can pretty much all but promise that you are all going to very happy campers. 2.1 works much smoother and snappier than 1.5 ever did, the browser is faster, the Flash works great, multi-touch implementation is terrific, and my battery life is much improved. New apps such as Goggles are amazing.

Rooting is not for everyone, I understand the reasons, I get it, no argument. If you want to try rooting, you can get in on this. If not, then patience is your friend. But blaming Sprint or HTC for the choice you yourself made at the time is, IMO, selfish at best, or at worst, delusional. Relax.
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Paying $479 for the phone......they saw you coming......let me guess...you didn't bother to research the phone? You have no one to blame but yourself! If you did your research, then shame on you, don't blame Sprint or HTC, they never promised any updates.....
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I think we should all start complaining about the ****ing lack of updates... We paid $479 for a phone that doesn't have the latest OS update and that update has been around for months...

Idk whether to blame Sprint or HTC, because i know damn well HTC is adding their HTC bullshit to the phone to try and make it more superior than the original Android home screen. Every company has to add a part of them to a phone... Its annoying me.

Seriously? What is so hard about making this update?
Guess what, NO phone has had a 2.1 update. Not a single one.

The jump from 1.5 to 1.6+ is an extremely big jump. Everything changes in the way the ROM is organized and runs.

We'll get the update when we get it, and it wouldn't surprise me if the Hero gets it before any other phone on the market.

Don't have the patience to wait? Go get a nexus 1, because that's the only phone on 2.1 (officially). Or, root the damn phone and put one of the 2.1 ROM's on. They're extremely fast, and basically only missing Visual Voice Mail (apparently Google Voice works just as well, I don't bother using it)

And most of the apps that are 1.6+ (i.e. goggles, gesture search, and crap like that) are just gimmicks. They're fun for a few minutes, then you realize that it's faster to accomplish the same task in a different manner.
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is it worth it to root if the update is coming soon?
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news article about april release. although, i'm sure we'll see it actually released around May or...June perhaps because sprint has to 'test' it first.
Eh. If its not out by the time the N1 hits Verizon, I am canceling my contract with Sprint, selling my Hero and going back to Verizon with an N1.
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is it worth it to root if the update is coming soon?
you're probably better off rooting now, and either installing a 1.5 ROM, or one of the 2.1 ROM's that are there. When the update comes, there'll be a good custom 2.1 ROM out within hours.

There's a distinct possibility that the 2.1 update will eliminate the ability to root, and if you update to the official version, you can't go back....so root now, while you still have the chance
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Im not waiting for Sprints official update.

I installed DamageControl v1.0 (Android 2.1) custom rom about a week ago. Its my every day rom and works awesome. The phone is super fast and it has the new HTC Sense. The only thing that I miss is visual voicemail. Im waiting on a Google voice invite. I heard it does the job for voicemail very good. Lots of enhancements:
  • U can see your Facebook contacts info in People app
  • The "Gallery" app is awesome and u can see your picassa albums too
  • New HTC Sense, u can see 7 cards of your 7 screens at once
  • Can install Google Nav (no need for sprint nav)
  • About 160mb free of memory after install the rom. Wow!
  • Wireless Tether (You can share your internet service with any wireless device)
  • Spanish language support out of the box (locale)
  • Youtube app actually works
  • Camera enhancements(now with effects and lots of options)
  • Really, really fast
  • Its been optimized to kill apps that should not be open in the background
  • Faster than any other 1.5 or 1.6 rom with overclocking

I would highly recommend rooting and installing a 2.1 Rom. I really dont care about sprints official update anymore. Probably only for the devs to optimize even more the custom roms.

Theres plenty of step by step instructions out there. If you know how to type, do copy & paste and can follow instructions, you can do it.
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I installed DamageControl v1.0 (Android 2.1) custom rom about a week ago. Its my every day rom and works awesome. The phone is super fast and it has the new HTC Sense. The only thing that I miss is visual voicemail. Im waiting on a Google voice invite. I heard it does the job for voicemail very good. Lots of enhancements:
  • U can see your Facebook contacts info in People app
  • The "Gallery" app is awesome and u can see your picassa albums too
  • New HTC Sense, u can see 7 cards of your 7 screens at once
  • Can install Google Nav (no need for sprint nav)
  • About 160mb free of memory after install the rom. Wow!
  • Wireless Tether (You can share your internet service with any wireless device)
  • Spanish language support out of the box (locale)
  • Youtube app actually works
  • Camera enhancements(now with effects and lots of options)
  • Really, really fast
  • Its been optimized to kill apps that should not be open in the background
  • Faster than any other 1.5 or 1.6 rom with overclocking

I would highly recommend rooting and installing a 2.1 Rom. I really dont care about sprints official update anymore. Probably only for the devs to optimize even more the custom roms.

Theres plenty of step by step instructions out there. If you know how to type, do copy & paste and can follow instructions, you can do it.
I totally agree. I had my stock phone for awhile now and I have been waiting on 2.1 and it was taking forever so I decided to root lastnight. I did the 1 click method and I loaded the Damageless rom in under 30 minutes. Everything you said about the rom is on point and I say ROOT NOW and dont wait.

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Im not waiting for Sprints official update.

I installed DamageControl v1.0 (Android 2.1) custom rom about a week ago. Its my every day rom and works awesome. The phone is super fast and it has the new HTC Sense. The only thing that I miss is visual voicemail. Im waiting on a Google voice invite. I heard it does the job for voicemail very good. Lots of enhancements:
  • U can see your Facebook contacts info in People app
  • The "Gallery" app is awesome and u can see your picassa albums too
  • New HTC Sense, u can see 7 cards of your 7 screens at once
  • Can install Google Nav (no need for sprint nav)
  • About 160mb free of memory after install the rom. Wow!
  • Wireless Tether (You can share your internet service with any wireless device)
  • Spanish language support out of the box (locale)
  • Youtube app actually works
  • Camera enhancements(now with effects and lots of options)
  • Really, really fast
  • Its been optimized to kill apps that should not be open in the background
  • Faster than any other 1.5 or 1.6 rom with overclocking

I would highly recommend rooting and installing a 2.1 Rom. I really dont care about sprints official update anymore. Probably only for the devs to optimize even more the custom roms.

Theres plenty of step by step instructions out there. If you know how to type, do copy & paste and can follow instructions, you can do it.
I'm running Fresh 2.0 (Android 2.1) that is built off of this ROM. I must agree with energizer, 2.1 blows 1.x out of the water. It's faster than my iPhone 3G I had, and my Palm Pre. THIS is what Android is supposed to be. Gone are lags and issues with multitasking. Hell, calls connect so fast it's unbelievable, and no more 'phone lagging so bad I can't even answer an incoming call' issue.

Literally night and day, the way this phone runs. Only thing I can't get working is Google Earth, probably because it's specifically made for the N1 at the moment.

Really digging 2.1. Very curious to see how fast the official HTC/Sprint ROM is compared to what I have now. Will they screw it up? I can't believe they'd want to ruin this experience...
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If you install Fresh 2.0 or Damage, does it wipe your phone? Does everything including the camera and video work correctly? Can you download 1.6+ apps from the market?
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If you install Fresh 2.0 or Damage, does it wipe your phone? Does everything including the camera and video work correctly? Can you download 1.6+ apps from the market?
- Yes (you have to wipe)
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hmmmm. Navigation and everything works too? Tempting...
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You should root there are no downs about it that make it not worth it. Any problem that you have with a ROM there is a fix for it. I used to be undecided about rooting but after I did it I was like why did I ever wait.
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I have a Mac. Is it the same process for rooting?
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hey guys -- i saw a dead horse in the parking lot . . . does anyone wanna go beat it?
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There's a distinct possibility that the 2.1 update will eliminate the ability to root, and if you update to the official version, you can't go back....so root now, while you still have the chance
I have read this on other boards... why would this be though? Why would they eliminate the ability to root? Isn't that something that draws people to Android?
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Just checked out XDA and these 2.1 ROMs are NOT fully working. No visual voicemail and some apps like the B of A app dont work. Those are two things right there I use quite often. Not worth giving it up just to get a half assed version of 2.1
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Yes, navigation works using version 4 of Google Maps (which is bundled in the DamageControl ROM). And if you just prefer the Sprint navigation app, someone in the forum has the IPK of it and offered to send to anyone who requested it.
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Just checked out XDA and these 2.1 ROMs are NOT fully working. No visual voicemail and some apps like the B of A app dont work. Those are two things right there I use quite often. Not worth giving it up just to get a half assed version of 2.1
Well I guess that depends on your definition of fully working. The VVM issue was already mentioned. The reason it doesn't work is because the 2.1 ROM's are based on Verizon's ROM, not Sprint's (since it hasn't been released). But again, there are alternatives. As far as the BofA app, I'm going to guess that if it doesn't work on any of the custom ROMs it probably won't work when Sprint releases there's either. That sounds to me as if BofA needs to update their app to work with Android 2.1, but that's just my guess. So in my opinion, the 2.1 ROM is fully functional. But your point is valid. If you rely on that app, you can't go to 2.1 if it doesn't work for you.
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