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Old June 4th, 2010, 08:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default System Update 2.27.651.6 (3.17MB) FOTA Available

Just went to HTC Software Update and found this available. Anyone know what's in it???


Hit Menu, then Settings, then About Phone, then System Updates, then HTC Software Update, and finally hit Check Now.
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I just got it too... installing now.
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I can't find it. Link please?
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Funny tho, my phone actually told me about the update.
If you go to settings/about phone/system update/htc updates you will find the update.
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Ah, I see it is OTA.
Anybody complete it yet?
Any info?
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updating now!
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Just downloaded it to my wife's Hero. I don't know what it is for as of yet. I know my Evo had the same update when I got it this morning.
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I just read this that seems to indicate that the OTA update disables the new 2.1 root capability.

http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-sprint-hero/90798-2-1-rooted.html#post860960
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I just read this that seems to indicate that the OTA update disables the new 2.1 root capability.

http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-sprint-hero/90798-2-1-rooted.html#post860960
Oh nice. They probably worked overtime to push this out, and yet we still have a ton of issues with the phone that should also be patched. Nice one HTC! I know disabling rooting is first on your list of priorities (for whatever reason), but fixing our f*cked up phones isn't!
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Ah, I see it is OTA.
Anybody complete it yet?
Any info?
Yeah...took only a couple of minutes to download (WiFi) and install. So far, I don't see any changes in features, operation or functionality.....???

Oh well...I guess I will just follow this Thread to see what any of the experts discover.
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I think the update that came out for the EVO was to fix the SD card issue...and it might also break the root exploit. I'm not sure if this update is related or not.
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I think the update that came out for the EVO was to fix the SD card issue...and it might also break the root exploit. I'm not sure if this update is related or not.
The old CARROT & STICK technique... bottom line is read the fine print, BUYER BEWARE, Caution - GREEKS BEARING GIFTS, lol, etc., etc., etc.

I recommend NEVER rushing to update your phone when one is out, at least until a few days later or official word is out as to the purpose of the update. But yes, word is, it closes the ROOT method for 2.1

Understand this... the EVO comes with capability that Sprint is looking to profit off of and increase revenue. The ROOT process grants access to some of those features and bypasses their revenue stream. They will be very aggressive in patching future exploits of the phone, of this you can be sure. As such... these Hero's WITH Root capability, might just hold their value for a very long time hehehehe...

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I think the update that came out for the EVO was to fix the SD card issue...and it might also break the root exploit. I'm not sure if this update is related or not.
I think by them at least getting all devices to the same os version it easier for them to keep track of rooting and be able to patch quickly.
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So, has anyone determined what this update is for? I have read it thwarts the rooting of the Sprint HTC Hero's Android 2.1 update, but is that it?

Does it contain any useful fixes or enhancements to Android 2.1? I always like to be well informed before I install any type of update, especially to something as integral to my daily life as my smartphone.
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Can anyone determine yet if the upgrade's purpose was to fix something or just patch the rooting exploit?
Did it patch the exploit or merely uin-root it, thus allowing rooting again?

Just curious. I can't find any explaination, or the upgrade, on HTC's site.
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When I tried this the first time it told me my HTC software is up to date. Because I didn't like that answer, I tried it again & it asked me if I wanted to download the update via the network or wifi. I'm uploading now but considering what I'm reading in this thread, I'm not really sure why!
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Was hoping it might have fixed my BT..........nope
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so let me get this straight the update is to stop people from rooting the phones?
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Looks like the update's purpose on the Hero was to fix a "security hole". Happens to be the "Security hole" that allowed root access on the EVO and the 2.1 RUU on the Hero
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I just got off the phone with Advanced Technical Support at Sprint. I have been working with them for about 2 months on issues with my HERO and their AIRAVE service. I thought this was going to address at least the "known" issue they are aware of which the phone not switching from roaming/airave to Sprint and back correctly.

The ONLY thing this patch addresses is the elimination of the root exploit. This was a SPRINT directed patch and not a HTC one per the Sprint rep and confirmed by two supervisors for what its worth.
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im not updating, gonna root in a few days but just want to see if there are any issues that pop up later just in case
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It is ironic how they can fire off a patch to kill the root exploit, but they have not given us a patch or even a timeline for when we will get a patch that fixes all the issues with the Android 2.1 update. Nice job, Sprint.

So, I guess I should just ignore the update then? I do not plan on rooting my Sprint HTC Hero at the moment anyway.
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I'm still on 1.5 so I'm curious if I got the "update" too and if it would have the same effect, but I'm not checking because I might want to root eventually
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Well, after reading this thead, i decided not to update my phone for a while... I actually wanna br able to root my phone.
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Well, after reading this thead, i decided not to update my phone for a while... I actually wanna br able to root my phone.
Just so everyone knows. If you inadvertently update your phone with today's OTA update and lose the latest root exploit, there is a way back.

Just run the ORIGINAL .5 RUU that came out last month and then you will be able to root using yesterday's exploit.

This works for now, but beware of any future update/RUU from Sprint.
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i updated and the phone's lagginess is gone. It used to take a long time between dialing a contact and the phone call being made. so far, thats the only difference i see.
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It is ironic how they can fire off a patch to kill the root exploit, but they have not given us a patch or even a timeline for when we will get a patch that fixes all the issues with the Android 2.1 update. Nice job, Sprint.

So, I guess I should just ignore the update then? I do not plan on rooting my Sprint HTC Hero at the moment anyway.
This is ridiculous man. I don't have the problems I've been reading about with 2.1 for I haven't installed the official, but I sure have read about the people and their problems. Sprint cares more about the select few people that know what rooting is and attempt to do it (voiding there own warranty mind you) and can't focus labor on useful updates.. why?
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What's funny is that I was on the phone with HTC's tech support when I saw this update and I asked the guy and he goes "Um... I have no idea. What does it say?"
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i updated and the phone's lagginess is gone. It used to take a long time between dialing a contact and the phone call being made. so far, thats the only difference i see.
Yea I noticed this also
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This is ridiculous man. I don't have the problems I've been reading about with 2.1 for I haven't installed the official, but I sure have read about the people and their problems. Sprint cares more about the select few people that know what rooting is and attempt to do it (voiding there own warranty mind you) and can't focus labor on useful updates.. why?
That's so Sprint/HTC can keep you with an issue-plagued phone that you will get so fed up with that you will want to drop more $$$ for the EVO.
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So, basically the update is to plug a security breach that was found on the Sprint HTC EVO and our Sprint HTC Hero. This article explains it: Hackers Find Holes in Sprint’s New 4G Phone - NYTimes.com as does this one: HTC EVO 4G: Nice Hardware, Horrible Sprint Software grack.com: Matt Mastracci's blog .

I am giving props to astrobill and hoos who originally found this information. I just wanted to put it here because it is applicable to this thread as well.
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Not getting my hopes up, but for right now the dialer lag is gone.
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It would be nice if Sprint released some change log notes for this update. A few people are reporting the dialer lag is gone after the update has been applied.

Perhaps there are other minor bug fixes that have not been discovered yet. Of course, the update is only around 3MB, so it cannot be fixing that much.
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So, basically the update is to plug a security breach that was found on the Sprint HTC EVO and our Sprint HTC Hero. This article explains it: Hackers Find Holes in Sprintís New 4G Phone - NYTimes.com as does this one: HTC EVO 4G: Nice Hardware, Horrible Sprint Software grack.com: Matt Mastracci's blog .

I am giving props to astrobill and hoos who originally found this information. I just wanted to put it here because it is applicable to this thread as well.

These!
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Very interesting that we are being kept in the dark about what this update does...
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Very interesting that we are being kept in the dark about what this update does...
Sprint posted what exactly the update did early this afternoon... albeit vague.

Announcements: Software update available for HTC EVO 4G and HTC Hero
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I disabled OTA updates on my phone to make sure I don't accidentally install this.
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Sprint posted what exactly the update did early this afternoon... albeit vague.

Announcements: Software update available for HTC EVO 4G and HTC Hero
I like how the first poster put it ...

"You are kidding right? You patch the Hero and the only thing you can think of "fixing" is an exploit to gain root access? Seriously... You are joking right?"
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Not getting my hopes up, but for right now the dialer lag is gone.
Same here. So far so good....
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This OTA update actually wiped my phone yesterday. I had the "official" 2.1 installed at a Sprint store by their techs the day before, then I saw the OTA update and installed it. About 20 minutes later my phone wouldn't even power on. Thinking it was the battery, I changed out batteries and when it booted up it gave me a weird screen where my only option was to erase all data. Thinking I got here my accidently pressing buttons when changing the battery, I removed and reinstalled the battery. Booted up just fine then, but everything was wiped from my phone. I had to start all over again!! (

Anyone else experience this???
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Just recieved a OTA update for my hero, I'm currently running android 2.1 on it and I would like to know what this update was for. I just installed it.
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There is already an active thread about this OTA update. It is located here: http://androidforums.com/sprint-htc-hero/91019-system-update-2-27-651-6-3-17mb-fota-available.html . Long story short, it is to fix an exploit that is present on the Sprint HTC Hero that allows for a security breach. As a side effect, it also defeats the ability to root your handset.

EDIT: I guess the thread was merged into this one so you can disregard what I said above.
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What the update does...it patches the root for hero/evo .........

so to all of you that are running unrooted hero's ...i suggest you don't update if you are planning on rooting your phone in the next couple of days..
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^ IIRC, it does not patch root for the Evo (at least the unrevoked apk method still works). It only patches root on the Hero.
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I just got an HTC update to 2.27.651.6, I just did a check for HTC updates and it downloaded and installed, I have no idea what it is.
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Old June 7th, 2010, 07:37 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Yup, mine updated to that last night.

Of course, this is the build #, not firmware version.
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Sprint Nav is back, I am soooo thrilled
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Just downloaded it...what does it do? Did it fix any quirks?
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This has been discussed quite a bit already in this thread: http://androidforums.com/sprint-htc-hero/91019-system-update-2-27-651-6-3-17mb-fota-available.html .

The jury is still out, but the consensus so far is that it blocks the root exploit that was discovered last week and it might eliminate dialer lag. Sprint has not released any formal change log notes yet.
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supposedly the only thing the update does is take away your ability to root, so if you want to be able to root your phone then don't install the update
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