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Old October 28th, 2009, 05:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi guys!


After hearing some good feedback on the Handcent SMS app, I decided to try it out!

It is indeed a great alternative to the "stock" sms app on the Hero, but i have one, yet important, question:

When I press the onscreen button "speak" I get the following message: Recognizer not present"


Why is that?

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I'm unsure of this is right but I beleive you must have "Google Search by voice" from the Android Market installed. If you do have it already installed , Maybe Handcent hasn't made it compatible with the New "Google search by voice" yet ?

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I'm unsure of this is right but I beleive you must have "Google Search by voice" from the Android Market installed. If you do have it already installed , Maybe Handcent hasn't made it compatible with the New "Google search by voice" yet ?

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I believe this is correct (from my research), all you have to do is find it in the market which seems a hit & miss thing. I cant find it
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Works for me on the sprint one and it is amazing accurate. I just voice texted my wife that when I get home she was going to take it in the @#$. hahaha. Her reply was when hell freezes over haha.

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I cant find "Google search by voice" ?
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A few things: First, Google Search by Voice is only available in certain regions right now for beta testing (such as the UK). Second, the Hero doesn't work with voice recognition because it is lacking an importand package, android.speech.

I've been talking with the HTC support people about this, but it seems that I know more about the subject than they do (as it is with most tech support people these days).

It appears that Google Search by Voice includes this package, allowing all apps that rely on the Google Voice Recognition service to work. Hopaefully though, HTC will address this feature in their next update and we wont have to rely on the app.
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So on your phones it doesn't show the mic when you hit the menu button in chat? I'm in the states with the Sprint one and I didn't have to install any google voice or anything of the such. It just works. I even verified on my wife's HTC and she hasnt installed anything yet and it works.
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Ok, my old Hero had this working. My new one (I exchanged it because of dust) does not...I get the "recognizer not present" error. This is frustrating. It DOES work on Hero, but how do I get it back???

My new Hero is exactly the same as my old one (HTC branded, EV-DO rev 0, etc). But the voice recognition no longer works :-(
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maybe it does have the voice extensions installed?
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FYI:

http://androidforums.com/sprint-htc-hero/14183-htc-hero-osgi-management.html

UPDATE: I apparently had an older "advocate" ROM on my Hero (I guess my phone was made earlier and used by advocates to get people excited about the Hero). This older ROM was missing the Google Search by Voice app and extensions. The thread above explains how to update to the official released ROM using a simple updater tool. Worked great for me!
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Damn it, I factory re-set my Hero yesterday & now can no longer find the Google Search by Voice app.

Looks like it may have withdrawn from the UK......not a big loss but I would have liked to install it again
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Ok, there is a TON of confusion about Voice Recognition right now. I strongly encourage you all to read my post to try and clear a few things up.

First and foremost, Google Voice Search and Google Voice Dialer are not intended fixes for the Voice Recognition issue. Plus they are being beta tested in select markets, making them unavailable for the majority of the Marketplace.

The problem with Voice Recognition on the Hero is that HTC did not include the android.speech package in their ROM. I have been personally trying to work with HTC to fix this issue, but very few (basically none) of their support staff know near enough about development to understand a thing I say to them. I've been slowly working my way up the ladder for the past few weeks.

All of the Voice Recognition features rely on a service included in the Android OS, but HTC had it removed (I wish I knew why). The reason installing apps like Google Voice Search fix the issue is because those apps will also install parts of the android.speech package necessary for them to work. They do not install the full Voice Recognition Service though and cannot be relied on as permanent fixes.

I can only assume that HTC will (and is) working on putting the android.speech package back into their ROM, but as I have yet to get in touch with any of their Android Development team, I really can't say anything for certain.

I am also trying to encourage an independent Android Developer to help the cause. There is an App on the Marketplace called Enhanced TTS Library. I am hoping that with enough encouragement, this developer will be willing to create a similar Enchanced Voice Recognition Library as well.
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Hi i hope this link helps, it is the voicesearch.apk by google.
4shared.com - file sharing network - free file search - voicesearch.apk
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quantumrand I'm slightly confused, I have the google search by voice on my Hero and it works perfectly. How can HTC have removed it if it works fine on my device?
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Hi i hope this link helps, it is the voicesearch.apk by google.
4shared.com - file sharing network - free file search - voicesearch.apk
Causes a ForceClose on my Hero
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quantumrand I'm slightly confused, I have the google search by voice on my Hero and it works perfectly. How can HTC have removed it if it works fine on my device?
Because you maybe have an older model?
Because you don't have a sim-free Hero...you have an Orange Hero?
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quantumrand I'm slightly confused, I have the google search by voice on my Hero and it works perfectly. How can HTC have removed it if it works fine on my device?
Google Search By Voice installs SOME of the android.speech package. It's a huge benefit Google has over other developers. They know the inner working of their Voice Recognition Service, while your average Android Dev can only rely on the SDK and hope the device already has the VR package installed.

Because Google Search By Voice installs parts of the android.speech package, other apps that make use of the Google Voice Service can potentially work, but if they rely on the entire android.speech package, they may not.

Also, dont confuse Google Search By Voice with Google's Voice Recognition Service. The Voice Recognition Service is sort of like a function Google stuck in Android OS, and Devs can add just a bit of code to their apps in order to get VR instead of coding a VR script into their app from scratch. Google Search By Voice uses the VR Service, but also installs the parts that it needs in order to use it.
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Google Search By Voice installs SOME of the android.speech package. It's a huge benefit Google has over other developers. They know the inner working of their Voice Recognition Service, while your average Android Dev can only rely on the SDK and hope the device already has the VR package installed.

Because Google Search By Voice installs parts of the android.speech package, other apps that make use of the Google Voice Service can potentially work, but if they rely on the entire android.speech package, they may not.

Also, dont confuse Google Search By Voice with Google's Voice Recognition Service. The Voice Recognition Service is sort of like a function Google stuck in Android OS, and Devs can add just a bit of code to their apps in order to get VR instead of coding a VR script into their app from scratch. Google Search By Voice uses the VR Service, but also installs the parts that it needs in order to use it.
Got it, cheers.
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Causes a ForceClose on my Hero
Crashes here too :S
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Thats strange mine seems to work fine, and it even works with handcent sms without any problems. If u want i can look for it somewhere else.
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Thats strange mine seems to work fine, and it even works with handcent sms without any problems. If u want i can look for it somewhere else.
Happy to give it a try.
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You could give this a go, i havent tested it but should work. LATEST MOBILE PHONE NEWS and DOWNLOADS: Download SpeakEasy_ver1.2.0 for Android
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Ok, there is a TON of confusion about Voice Recognition right now. I strongly encourage you all to read my post to try and clear a few things up.

First and foremost, Google Voice Search and Google Voice Dialer are not intended fixes for the Voice Recognition issue. Plus they are being beta tested in select markets, making them unavailable for the majority of the Marketplace.

The problem with Voice Recognition on the Hero is that HTC did not include the android.speech package in their ROM. I have been personally trying to work with HTC to fix this issue, but very few (basically none) of their support staff know near enough about development to understand a thing I say to them. I've been slowly working my way up the ladder for the past few weeks.

All of the Voice Recognition features rely on a service included in the Android OS, but HTC had it removed (I wish I knew why). The reason installing apps like Google Voice Search fix the issue is because those apps will also install parts of the android.speech package necessary for them to work. They do not install the full Voice Recognition Service though and cannot be relied on as permanent fixes.

I can only assume that HTC will (and is) working on putting the android.speech package back into their ROM, but as I have yet to get in touch with any of their Android Development team, I really can't say anything for certain.

I am also trying to encourage an independent Android Developer to help the cause. There is an App on the Marketplace called Enhanced TTS Library. I am hoping that with enough encouragement, this developer will be willing to create a similar Enchanced Voice Recognition Library as well.

So then why does it work fine on my Sprint Hero??
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So then why does it work fine on my Sprint Hero??
Because this is the GSM Hero thread?
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Hope this helps

I had search then reset myphone which lost it. The above apk works on US hero but this one below works on uk gsm 1.5


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Scroll to the faq at the very bottom of the page. I found this link from Google help forum

Hope you guys find it useful. i.ve also kept a copy of the apk on sdcard in case its needed
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Up until Friday I had Voice Search on my Hero, it also worked with Handcent. I don't know what I've done but its gone! I live in the UK and would love to get this back, I tried using the peejay kindly provided but it force closes.

If I factory reset my phone will it come back? I assume I've uninstalled it by mistake. I'd had a few

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Ignore my last post!

If you got to this part of the link mez provided:

The voice search APK file is available here This file active the speech recognition in a Magic with Cupcake (Donut seems not supported)

Download and install via sync it works perfectly on my UK phone running the 1.5 firmware.

Thanks mez for the great link.

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I am currently in South Korea, and the search by voice app is not available here--it has been put on hold until they release a version that supports Korean language. I would be just as happy to find the app with English only for now, but I can't seem to find a mirror anywhere. Does anyone know of somewhere hosting this, or can someone set it up? BTW I'm using 2.1.

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Ignore my last post!

If you got to this part of the link mez provided:

The voice search APK file is available here This file active the speech recognition in a Magic with Cupcake (Donut seems not supported)

Download and install via sync it works perfectly on my UK phone running the 1.5 firmware.

Thanks mez for the great link.

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Hi everybody,

I'm developing an android application to dictate and save the dictation using webservices. But I'm stucking at the first step, it means I can't realy figer out how to code the dictation itself, I found alot of stuf on internet but non of them is working.
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I am in London and put a vodaphone SIM in my Sprint Photon. The voice recognition which worked brilliantly in the US is now so poor as to be useless. Any ideas?

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A few things: First, Google Search by Voice is only available in certain regions right now for beta testing (such as the UK). Second, the Hero doesn't work with voice recognition because it is lacking an importand package, android.speech.

I've been talking with the HTC support people about this, but it seems that I know more about the subject than they do (as it is with most tech support people these days).

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