I think I have an exciting discovery here folks and kiddies
This is from the FCC filing of PB31200 which is our previously unknown CDMA2000 device
Notice the model number of the batteries for the device is BTR6300B. The BTR of course refers to "battery" but the 6300 model number matches up with what we now believe is the Incredible from the Verizon Inventory
So I think we can now say PB31200 == Verizon's Incredible. The filing cleared Feb 9 so if it keeps the same FCC->release lead time of the Eris, expect it in early April or late March.
The only other explanation is that the Incredible's battery is the same one used by another device, like the Legend, but I doubt it. The battery is 1300mAh compared to N1's 1400mAh and Eris' 1250mAh. Maybe smaller battery to make room for the bigger camera?
Updating the main FCC thread in the Passion section too.
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I'm beginning to think that there was one big joint agreement...first Motorola has the flagship and HTC gets the second tier. Then they reverse...Seems possible
So I think we can now say PB31200 == Verizon's Incredible. The filing cleared Feb 9 so if it keeps the same FCC->release lead time of the Eris, expect it in early April or late March.
I mentioned this coincidence yesterday, and I agree. The only small hesitation I have of guaranteeing they're the same is the difference in Bluetooth certifications between the PB31200 and the ADR6300
lol... i've been wondering the same thing. everyone wants it to be the incred for vz so it seems like nobody's arguing the sprint references.
All of the pictures that signified the sprint employee in KS were taken by the PC36100 device. All of the ADR6300 pictures seemed to be taken in an HTC testing facility, not in the US.
All of the pictures that signified the sprint employee in KS were taken by the PC36100 device. All of the ADR6300 pictures seemed to be taken in an HTC testing facility, not in the US.
ah, you're right. i lost track with all the pics/excitement...
The pink one looks like the leaked images of the supersonic to me, the other looks like an N1 ... the P3700 (from the "Taken with" info) is a new number to me.
The pink one looks like the leaked images of the supersonic to me, the other looks like an N1 ... the P3700 (from the "Taken with" info) is a new number to me.
Based on a quick Google search, it appears that the HTC P3700 is the HTC Touch Diamond...
Also, besides what appears to be a size difference between the supersonic and that phone, the pink phone's speaker location is offset from the top where the supersonic's appears to be flush with the top of the phone.
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HAHAH I bet all these pictures were taken by HTC reps with regular digital cameras and then changed the device to f*** with us.
But all jokes aside, I'm curious as to why the latest picture was take by an 'htc_bravo', and one we found yesterday was 'HTC Bravo'. I don't know how this stuff works but it just seems odd to me.
I think I have an exciting discovery here folks and kiddies
This is from the FCC filing of PB31200 which is our previously unknown CDMA2000 device
Notice the model number of the batteries for the device is BTR6300B. The BTR of course refers to "battery" but the 6300 model number matches up with what we now believe is the Incredible from the Verizon Inventory
So I think we can now say PB31200 == Verizon's Incredible. The filing cleared Feb 9 so if it keeps the same FCC->release lead time of the Eris, expect it in early April or late March.
The only other explanation is that the Incredible's battery is the same one used by another device, like the Legend, but I doubt it. The battery is 1300mAh compared to N1's 1400mAh and Eris' 1250mAh. Maybe smaller battery to make room for the bigger camera?
Updating the main FCC thread in the Passion section too.
This is not good news...and supports the idea that the Eris being EOL is also not a good sign. The Incredible may not be so incredible....and may just be an upgraded Eris more than it is an upgrade to the N1. If so this totally draws a mean vacuum!
This is not good news...and supports the idea that the Eris being EOL is also not a good sign. The Incredible may not be so incredible....and may just be an upgraded Eris more than it is an upgrade to the N1. If so this totally draws a mean vacuum!
You obviously haven't been following along...no offense.
If a company is going to EOL a phone, it has to replace it with something else. Not too mention all the specs that have been touted - it's much more than eris.
You obviously haven't been following along...no offense.
If a company is going to EOL a phone, it has to replace it with something else. Not too mention all the specs that have been touted - it's much more than eris.
I have to agree, all signs point to this phone being more of a Droid counterpart than an Eris replacement. My real fear still comes to the RAM that they are looking at putting in this thing. If the rumors of 256 are true I can't see this device being a good choice as a long term investment. I notice a lot of people on this board are similar to me in the fact that they purchase a phone, become comfortable and then keep it until it breaks. The only reason I'm looking to upgrade is because I want an Android device and I'm sick of BlackBerry OS. Again, if this thing comes out with less than stellar specs (yes I avoided using the word incredible to make a pun) then I can't see many people really going to pick this up when the N1 is clearly coming and will be a powerful device.
The PB31200 filing cites bluetooth 2.0, where a search of the exact incredible VZW item ID# cites bluetooth 2.1 certification. I really don't think that our Incredible is the PB31200 filing...could there be another filing that we are not aware of? Also, the EOL of the eris isn't necessarily bad. Its possible that VZW doesn't want to overwhelm their customers with too many confusing android phone choices. Some positive thinking lol
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This is not good news...and supports the idea that the Eris being EOL is also not a good sign. The Incredible may not be so incredible....and may just be an upgraded Eris more than it is an upgrade to the N1. If so this totally draws a mean vacuum!
An average consumer is going to look at the Incredible, see the Sense UI, and instantly link it to the Eris. I wouldnt necessarily call the Incredible an Eris upgrade, but the similarity is there. Not everyone is tech savy like us. So, the Incredible could very well be the N1/Desire competitor but because theres that Eris similarity distinguishable by John Smith, VZW realizes its EoL. Because if given the choice, I think most people will choose the Incredible over the Eris.
The spreadsheet looks like its referring to Friend Stream and mentions that it "does not need to support landscape in Friend list".
I found a youtube account of hers, through her twitter account and look at this find.
UPDATE:
I added my capture of the original video again, so it should be live.
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Reason: to include the edited video since the original was removed, I also removed the user accounts to try to protect the innocent.
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My gut wants to believe that our Incredible will be a version of sprint's supersonic and that the Eris will be replaced with a slightly less incredible version.
For the record, my brain completely disagrees with my gut, but I know I'm not the only one to have mentioned this theory.
The spreadsheet looks like its referring to Friend Stream and mentions that it "does not need to support landscape in Friend list".
I found a youtube account of hers, through her twitter account and look at this find.
I have to say that this certainly does look like the incredible leaked pics that we have seen and it certainly does not look like a screen any smaller than 3.7".
Great find.
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[quote=oneniner;383091]The spreadsheet looks like its referring to Friend Stream and mentions that it "does not need to support landscape in Friend list".
I found a youtube account of hers, through her twitter account and look at this find.
Holy shit man....that's the incredible!!!
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My gut wants to believe that our Incredible will be a version of sprint's supersonic and that the Eris will be replaced with a slightly less incredible version.
For the record, my brain completely disagrees with my gut, but I know I'm not the only one to have mentioned this theory.
Go with your gut....The pictures taken by the adr6300 use the same camera resolution as those taken by the pc36100 and the pictures taken by the pc36100 have pictures which trail back to the Sprint Campus in KS.
Both of the resolutions came out to at least a 6.4 MP camera, and I'm guessing the actual Camera will be an 8MP camera since that seems to be a standard resolution.
Width can be deceiving...look at the incredible's video, the guy holding it had short pudgy fingers that barely made it around the phone...the woman holding the "light test" video had longer narrow fingers that spanned the entire width of the phone
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In the video, look at the space below the screen. The touch buttons look like they're near the top of that area, like on the Incredible, giving room for the optical trackpad. The Supersonic's buttons look very centered
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Also look at the distance between the top of the youtube device and the top of the screen, there's a bigger gap then there is in the supersonic picture.
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Also look at the distance between the top of the youtube device and the top of the screen, there's a bigger gap then there is in the supersonic picture.
Yeah, it looks like almost double the space. And why couldn't the Incredible have a red earpiece? It's got a crazy red back, so the earpiece would fit right in
The earpiece isn't red and no matter what the size of his fingers are the phone in the video clearly looks to be larger.
While I hope I am wrong I must lean with him. The real promise to this video is the fact that it has Chinese characters on that label at the top, thus providing an inkling that this wasn't in the US.
The earpiece isn't red and no matter what the size of his fingers are the phone in the video clearly looks to be larger.
While I hope I am wrong I must lean with him. The real promise to this video is the fact that it has Chinese characters on that label at the top, thus providing an inkling that this wasn't in the US.
For the record, I say that the youtube video is the incredible. The only difference between the two is the color of the ear piece. Optical pad and distance between bottom and top of screen and bottom and top of device point to the incredible, not supersonic.
That definitely looks like the back of the Incredible....
But whats that black box parallel to the camera lens? I dont think that was in the leaked video of the Incredible. Sorry - just acting the devils advocate.
