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Old February 20th, 2011, 07:35 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I only do my tests when I have 5 full bars 3g in my area, lately it hasnt been good at my house, so I run the tests at work which is 5 miles from here.
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3173/102
2334/103
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11254/723


previous phone iphone 3gs
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695/130
656/160
wifi
8091/139
5485/636


The inspire is definitely faster in my case.

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102 up, that's edge speeds!

Best I've seen is 3.2 down, .35 up.

IPhone best was 4.4 down, 1.4 up.
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When you guys go to Settings- About Phone- and then click network, what is it saying under "mobile network type"? Mine is saying HSDPA? Will it say HSPA+ once it is released for my area?
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And sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, just figured it was somewhat on topic.
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H+ icon 3 bars -
2779 kbps down
332 kbps up
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With my Captivate and a 2.2 ROM, my best speeds are:

5297 kbps down / 1328 kbps up
5108 kbps down / 1309 kbps up
5092 kbps down / 1332 kbps up

My average speeds are more around:

3200 kbps down / 1300 kbps up

In San Diego.
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Live from 32,000 ft on AA wireless 545 down/387 up
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From Charlotte, NC:

2688 kbps down - 395 kbps up
2990 kbps down - 404 kbps up
2744 kbps down - 380 kbps up

Now on wifi it FLIES:
17848 kbps down - 1024 kbps up (my time warner cable speeds kick butt) and to be honest- I'm satisfied with my mobile speeds. It's a little faster than I had with my iPhone 4.
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Well; HSPA+ is just enhanced 3G; so the minimal improvement over 3G is what we should expect I suppose. Generally these are dissapointing speeds for a phone advertised as 4G
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In Louisiana I hit 3129 down and 329 up.
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With Revolution HD rom and Telus kernel. I'm getting

4.3Mbps down
1.1Mbps up

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Well; HSPA+ is just enhanced 3G; so the minimal improvement over 3G is what we should expect I suppose. Generally these are dissapointing speeds for a phone advertised as 4G

And when the hspa+ actually gets here on march 31 st the speeds will double and triple so these speeds won't be dissapointing
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Dallas, Tx off cell tower

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.34M up
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These speeds are the same that I got on my iPhone 4.

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in olympia, wa: 2366 kbps down/278 up
wifi: 10715 down/2003 up
using the speed test.net
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The saddest part is that my non-HSPA+ device, an iPhone 4 murders all the crippled AT&T so called HSPA+ devices..
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The saddest part is that my non-HSPA+ device, an iPhone 4 murders all the crippled AT&T so called HSPA+ devices..
there is no way your iphone4 is getting those speeds lol plus the hsupa being disabled will only affect upload speeds not the download your 6+K uploads is almost 3k more than everyone else has gotten
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But does that icon change? I am curious what happens when I take this phone to Tokyo in a few weeks, if I get the H+ logo considering neither of the providers I will roam with (NTT, Softbank) have a 4G backhaul network that I know of that will seem a bit odd.

I would be curious if like on my old iPhone I could switch 3G on and off, a toggle switch for 2/3/4G so I can compare speeds.

I've never seen the icon change from H+ but I do live in a major metro area so maybe its telling the truth :P
I live in a not so large city and I do get an 'E' there sometimes.
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Just ran a few tests just now on 3 bars of H+, the best I got of the three was:

1.64 Mbps Up / 0.32 Mbps Down.
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Just ran a few tests just now on 3 bars of H+, the best I got of the three was:

1.64 Mbps Up / 0.32 Mbps Down.

Thats exactly what I have been getting on 3 bars at my house.
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Thats exactly what I have been getting on 3 bars at my house.
Yea I'm very disappointed in the Up speeds especially, must be because AT&T has HSUPA disabled right now.....(Terrible choice).

I'll run a test again later today when I'm on campus at my University, I usually get full bars there.
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there is no way your iphone4 is getting those speeds lol plus the hsupa being disabled will only affect upload speeds not the download your 6+K uploads is almost 3k more than everyone else has gotten
Would you like more screenshots? I'm not sure what are you trying to say...
On my iPhone 4 HSUPA is maxing out at about 1.7mbps here in NYC and im getting over 6mbps down during the off peak hours, steady.
On my HSPA+ Shockwave modem I see 12mbps off peak.

Let me know if you want more screens... got plenty of them..
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Those are very good numbers. Maybe the "4g" rollout has gone into effect in NYC?

I am able to get about 4mb/s late at night in Atlanta say around 2am..lolol. Rest of the time its more like 1mb/s.
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Those are very good numbers. Maybe the "4g" rollout has gone into effect in NYC?

I am able to get about 4mb/s late at night in Atlanta say around 2am..lolol. Rest of the time its more like 1mb/s.

Not yet that's not till end of march early April
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Depends on your location, weather conditions time of the day... Here in NYC HSUPA was never disabled on iPhone 4. Why? Simply cause Apple would NEVER allow carriers to dictate terms that wouldn't benefit the customers. Apple develops hardware + software and doesn't allow any bloatware. No crippling period.

It's clear as a day that AT&T has their custom roms specifically designed to disable HSUPA so their network doesn't get slammed. To put it in a sentence: They are NOT ready to offer you HSPA+ speeds.
There isn't a single chipset manufacturer that creates HSPA+ chip that at the same time doesn't support HSUPA.
So all the nonsense has to end and they need to either allow users to use the netowrk as it's meant to be used, or stop selling HSPA+ phones immediately!
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Not yet that's not till end of march early April
Oh yeah? Well here is some more for ya:

iPhone 4:


Shockwave USBconnect Modem:

Enjoy.
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Oh yeah? Well here is some more for ya:

iPhone 4:


Shockwave USBconnect Modem:

Enjoy.

What's your point Hspa+ isn't on in nyc area. Your getting those speeds God bless but that's Norway the norm not for any phone even the hsupa having iPhone 4
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What's your point Hspa+ isn't on in nyc area. Your getting those speeds God bless but that's Norway the norm not for any phone even the hsupa having iPhone 4
I think you're not understanding the difference between HSPA+ being available (as a software update on the cell sites) and HSPA+ speeds with enhanced backhaul being available to consumers.

HSPA+ is switched on to nearly 100% AT&T covered area. Enhanced backhaul however is lagging behind very badly.

I'm not sure what are you trying to prove here, I'm giving you my own field tests, and you keep repeating yourself negating my own experience. Have you even tested the data in NYC?
I live in NYC, work in NYC, i have my AT&T devices with me every day. So my advice to you is to stop spreading the unverified rumors and go with the facts. And I mean not the facts that you've heard from someone, but your own experiences.

Now we can talk about AT&T's HSPA+ being limited to 14.4 which sucks especially knowing that the real HSPA+ starts at 21mbps.

iPhone is a non HSPA+ device capped at 7.2mbps down and 5.76mbps up.
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I think you're not understanding the difference between HSPA+ being available (as a software update on the cell sites) and HSPA+ speeds with enhanced backhaul being available to consumers.

HSPA+ is switched on to nearly 100% AT&T covered area. Enhanced backhaul however is lagging behind very badly.

I'm not sure what are you trying to prove here, I'm giving you my own field tests, and you keep repeating yourself negating my own experience. Have you even tested the data in NYC?
I live in NYC, work in NYC, i have my AT&T devices with me every day. So my advice to you is to stop spreading the unverified rumors and go with the facts. And I mean not the facts that you've heard from someone, but your own experiences.

Now we can talk about AT&T's HSPA+ being limited to 14.4 which sucks especially knowing that the real HSPA+ starts at 21mbps.

iPhone is a non HSPA+ device capped at 7.2mbps down and 5.76mbps up.

No I understand but being that there is no backhaul you won't see those speeds on your phone
Also its only 14.4 till years end it will be 21 by 2012
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No I understand but being that there is no backhaul you won't see those speeds on your phone
Also its only 14.4 till years end it will be 21 by 2012
I do have AT&T's only 21mbps device, Shockwave USB modem. I cap at about 12-13mbps in the best case scenario. That tells me that AT&T doesn't have a 21mbps capable network. Their backhaul isn't robust enough, or they are simply rate limiting me at 14.4.
Your HSPA+ phones are only 14.4 capable. You would never know if the network is limited to 14.4 or 21mbps.
But they've been selling Shockwave since November last year, and the speeds anywhere in the USA are capped at 14.4 minus the overhead. In most places im in the HSPA 7.2 range.

I can vouch that AT&T at the moment is BY FAR the slowest network among the big four.
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I can vouch that AT&T at the moment is BY FAR the slowest network among the big four.

Not according to this article published on Feb 18 stating AT&T was the faster that Verizon...


AT&T iPhone beats Verizon in nationwide 3G speed tests - CNN.com


Lets see who do i believe...Milan or CNN..

Milan...Cnn.

Milan.....Cnn...


Umm im going to go with CNN.

Also while we are at it, here is AT&Ts mobile broad band coverage map. As you can clearly see the only place in the State of NY that has 4G active is Buffalo.

4G Speed from AT&T - AT&T 4G with HSPA+ and LTE - Wireless from AT&T

Edit; Note to Loiselle...THIS conversation is why i wanted the previous thread here in this forum...nuff said.
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Not according to this article published on Feb 18 stating AT&T was the faster that Verizon...


AT&T iPhone beats Verizon in nationwide 3G speed tests - CNN.com


Lets see who do i believe...Milan or CNN..

Milan...Cnn.

Milan.....Cnn...


Umm im going to go with CNN.

Also while we are at it, here is AT&Ts mobile broad band coverage map. As you can clearly see the only place in the State of NY that has 4G active is Buffalo.

4G Speed from AT&T - AT&T 4G with HSPA+ and LTE - Wireless from AT&T

Edit; Note to Loiselle...THIS conversation is why i wanted the previous thread here in this forum...nuff said.
I would read that carefully. And I mean carefully. Then read it again and tell me if you see Verizon's 3G or 4G LTE being reviewed.
Then read it again to confirm.

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While we are on the subject of reading carefully. Read this quote carefully, then re-read it again and tell me if it differentiates between 3G and 4G.

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I can vouch that AT&T at the moment is BY FAR the slowest network among the big four.
ON the subject of 4g...

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At&t plans to roll out it’s 4G network this spring/summer and it already has devices up and ready for the launch. In the meantime, they are still keeping cool because of their current network- HSPA+ which has significant performance on its own and is said to be almost as good as the other carriers current networks!
“We know about speed. We have the nation’s fastest mobile broadband network. Our largest competitor’s non-LTE wireless network is 60 percent slower on average nationally. We also know that the best mobile broadband experience is based on consistent speed. We’ve delivered five mobile broadband speed upgrades in recent years, including our HSPA+ deployment,” says At&t CTO John Donovan “Our HSPA+ network and upgraded backhaul is expected to deliver speed performance similar to initial LTE deployments. That matters, because when we begin commercial deployment of LTE in mid 2011, customers on our LTE network will be able to fall back to HSPA+. As they do, they’ll receive a more consistent mobile broadband experience that supports simultaneous voice and data connections and higher speeds than the others can provide outside their LTE footprint.”
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Not all 4G is created equal. AT&T is the only carrier that will offer two layers of network technology that deliver 4G speeds: HSPA+ and LTE. Our HSPA+ network combined with enhanced backhaul is expected to enable speeds up to 4x faster than AT&T’s already fast mobile broadband speeds. And we’ll be evolving to even higher speeds with the rollout of our LTE network.
Why does that matter? You’ll enjoy fast 4G speeds both with the HSPA+ network and where LTE is available. That means a smoother, more consistent mobile broadband experience overall.
HSPA: 3G technology powering the nation’s fastest mobile broadband network today.
HSPA+: This technology enables speeds up to 4x faster than AT&T’s already fast mobile broadband network.*
LTE: Long Term Evolution. That’s what we have in mind and why AT&T will continue to boost speed and performance while we drive toward the launch of LTE later in 2011.
http://mediain5.com/2011/02/09/att-4g-network-details-of-upgrade/
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OK. Look I don't care what you want to see or not, I am telling you from my own tests.
Between Verizon's LTE, Sprint's WiMax and T-Mobile's HSPA+, AT&T is by far the slowest major wireless provider.

I can't care less what others think or what you think, I believe what I see.
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Oh and you telling me that the only city in NY state has 4G is Buffalo... Dude, I'm in NYC and I get 12mbps on my HSPA+ laptop USBconnect.
You are really getting served by AT&T's PR, media and other koolaids... Have you tested AT&T's HSPA+ network on a non-Android device? I thought so...
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And to top it off here is more from NYC to hopefully open your eyes.


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here you go, read this article which shows you why your USB modem gets the speeds ( hint release 7) and why most phones dont and why they will after march 31st like i have been saying

AT&T's brewing HSUPA-gate: the inside story -- Engadget
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Makes it sound like us early adapters will need an ota firmware update before being able to complete the handshake to the correct level.
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Makes it sound like us early adapters will need an ota firmware update before being able to complete the handshake to the correct level.
yea its definitely gonna be that. Once the backhaul is out they will send out this update then the real speeds will flow and come summer 2.4 is arriving I'm hearing july and then watch this Inspire fly!
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yea its definitely gonna be that. Once the backhaul is out they will send out this update then the real speeds will flow and come summer 2.4 is arriving I'm hearing july and then watch this Inspire fly!
That's exactly what AT&T want you to think and say. Everything at the moment is paperweight, vapor, but heavily advertised. No backend to support. While other three major provider users are already seeing and enjoying 4G speeds.
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That's exactly what AT&T want you to think and say. Everything at the moment is paperweight, vapor, but heavily advertised. No backend to support. While other three major provider users are already seeing and enjoying 4G speeds.
So basically your agreeing with me? PS my uncle works for AT&T corporate I'm just telling you what I know, in the next few months by mid april you will see a huge increase in speeds even you with your already awesome speeds
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I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you or anyone here. I'm just observing the current situation on the 4G market. Out of 4 major players AT&T unfortunately is the slowest 4G carrier. But they do heavily advertise it, make it look like they are on point and blazing fast. Average consumers get caught up with the PR smoke screens, and bite the bullet, then start hating life. Latest example, AT&T new 14.4mbps phones. The fact that I get faster speeds on Apple phone, in your so called non-4G market tells us that AT&T's map don't mean a thing, and they are selling a thin air.
I've emailed De La Vega a few times since my Shockwave performed like a HSPA 7.2 device for months, and he would rather give me free data than tell me why doesn't his "fastest broadband network in the U.S." perform as advertised.
I'm getting so fed up, I'll probably get Thunderbolt.
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I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you or anyone here. I'm just observing the current situation on the 4G market. Out of 4 major players AT&T unfortunately is the slowest 4G carrier. But they do heavily advertise it, make it look like they are on point and blazing fast. Average consumers get caught up with the PR smoke screens, and bite the bullet, then start hating life. Latest example, AT&T new 14.4mbps phones. The fact that I get faster speeds on Apple phone, in your so called non-4G market tells us that AT&T's map don't mean a thing, and they are selling a thin air.
I've emailed De La Vega a few times since my Shockwave performed like a HSPA 7.2 device for months, and he would rather give me free data than tell me why doesn't his "fastest broadband network in the U.S." perform as advertised.
I'm getting so fed up, I'll probably get Thunderbolt.
Well if you look at AT&T's map it says at the bottom enhanced backhaul coming march 31st. The reason iphone is getting better speeds right now is because it has no hsupa disabled
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Well if you look at AT&T's map it says at the bottom enhanced backhaul coming march 31st. The reason iphone is getting better speeds right now is because it has no hsupa disabled
That's the least what every HSUPA enabled phone should be getting. AT&T doesn't even support HSUPA 5.76mbps but they are capping it at 2mbps ~1.7mbps real world tests.
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That's the least what every HSUPA enabled phone should be getting. AT&T doesn't even support HSUPA 5.76mbps but they are capping it at 2mbps ~1.7mbps real world tests.

Once again for now.
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Once again for now.
What's the point of 4G phones being sold, 4G being advertised, if you have to wait with your precious device till mid year to not even get 4G speeds guaranteed, but just to have them enable HSUPA that comes loaded already in your hardware???
I'm not sure if AT&T is paying you to defend them or what, but you make absolutely no sense. I've been with them for years, know all their tricks, and I have no reason to be biased. The fact of the matter is their distorted reality PR clearly works as you and a few others are blindly following everything they serve.

Wake up people!
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The best I've gotten is 2104k up and 129k down.

I just got it last night and we've had some pretty heavy storms, so that might be affecting it.

I also asked the rep at our corp store that sold me the phone when the Springfield, MO area would be receiving the backhaul, and if the upload speeds would be fixed, and he said we wouldn't be seeing it 'til the summer time and the upload would be fixed. Not sure on the legitimacy of that, but the guy was nice so I'll give him the benefit. So for anybody in the SWMO area, this is probably looking like the time frame for us.
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Dallas area, 3.18 down and .34 up. I have notice it varies wildly though, with some tests having DL ranging from 1 - 3.2
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What's the point of 4G phones being sold, 4G being advertised, if you have to wait with your precious device till mid year to not even get 4G speeds guaranteed, but just to have them enable HSUPA that comes loaded already in your hardware???
I'm not sure if AT&T is paying you to defend them or what, but you make absolutely no sense. I've been with them for years, know all their tricks, and I have no reason to be biased. The fact of the matter is their distorted reality PR clearly works as you and a few others are blindly following everything they serve.

Wake up people!
Honestly i agree with you. There is nothing worse than vaporware. From the ridiculous Duke Nukem to several video card and cpu releases and on....we all hate it.

However notice this from above:

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Not all 4G is created equal. AT&T is the only carrier that will offer two layers of network technology that deliver 4G speeds: HSPA+ and LTE. Our HSPA+ network combined with enhanced backhaul is expected to enable speeds up to 4x faster than AT&T’s already fast mobile broadband speeds. And we’ll be evolving to even higher speeds with the rollout of our LTE network.
Why does that matter? You’ll enjoy fast 4G speeds both with the HSPA+ network and where LTE is available. That means a smoother, more consistent mobile broadband experience overall.
We have all seen this in tech. AMD vers Intel. Nvidia vers at...well AMD.

Today you roast us for being fans of vaporware..tomorrow we roast you (if you switch) for having only ONE LAYER of 4G at LTE while we have access to LTE in 80% of major markets and HSPA+ in areas you can barely get data in at all...

Its the old "trading licks" tech paridgm.

Can we agree on that?
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Makes sense doesn't it? However, if I keep waiting for AT&T vague time frame deadlines for LTE to come true, I'll grow old. HSPA+ isn't even properly rolled out. I don't mind AT&T speeds on HSPA7.2mbps devices. It's fairly good and in NYC tends to be very good, but they are just not game changers or not even a competitor in the 4G market.
If they weren't throwing out false claims about their 4G I would have absolutely no problem with AT&T. But their recent CES keynote was 1.5hrs of thin air nonsense without a single solid announcement I'm fed up with them.
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