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Old May 30th, 2013, 11:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up Announcing the One Google Edition - interested?

HTC One “Nexus Experience” Confirmed by Sundar Pichai, Available June 26 for $599 – Droid Life

This has been rumored & is now officially confirmed. Any takers?

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If they make it 64GB and available outside the States, yes. I'm not betting on either though.

Otherwise, it will at least give a good base for AOSP ROMs
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HTC One Google Edition to be offered in very limited quantities, report says | Android Atlas - CNET Reviews

Are they doing this to make the price HIGH ?

That is not fair.

At $600 its high. I wonder what the Nexus 5 price would be.

The Nexus 4 price never came down. Will this One Google Edition stay at this price?
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God it's tempting... it really is.
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Are they doing this to make the price HIGH ?

That is not fair.

At $600 its high. I wonder what the Nexus 5 price would be.

The Nexus 4 price never came down. Will this One Google Edition stay at this price?
$600 is about the going rate SIM-free and off-contract. The dev edition is $650, but that's also 64GB.

The subsidy system distorts perception of prices. With the standard manufacturers margins that's the price of these things. The N4 was unusual in that it was sold at a much lower margin, but it's too much of a niche to have really shaken things up. Now if Moto are serious about lower margins as they said yesterday that might have more effect, but it will take time. But right now this *isn't* a high price, it's the price they are all sold at, just that it's normally hidden in the contract charges.
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And this isn't a nexus device, so you can't really compare it to previous nexiii

Comparing it to manufacturers flagship phones this is right in line
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I have experience with stock android as I have the Nexus 4 as well as HTC phones from the past.

I didnt like the top Google search thing and I thought the icon are too big. Hence I get the Nova launcher and that solves everything.

With the HTC Sense, you get all this done for you. You get notifications on your lock screen, stock Android cant do this.

Beats audio is included in this stock. I read about camera problems with stock. This is yet to be discovered.

And there is Blink feed. Stock dont have.

Oh and stock android the hotspot work.

HTC would super tweak their android to work on their phone. Yes you get faster update with stock. It is ok if I get a slower update.

So right now, I am split on getting the stock or a HTC phone.
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And this isn't a nexus device, so you can't really compare it to previous nexiii

Comparing it to manufacturers flagship phones this is right in line
It's sold by Google, it's stock Android and it's updated by Google - besides the name, and like the SGS4 Google Edition - how is this not a Nexus?

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Sprint will not activate this on their network right?
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Sprint will not activate this on their network right?
Right.

According to Phandroid, this is ATT and T-Mobile only, but does support LTE for both of those -

Google officially unveils Nexus-like HTC One, coming June 26th for $599

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(recycling one of my posts from the Lounge)

So.

Compared to the HTC One standard edition - it's a loser.

Loses the IR feature, loses Zoe, loses the Beats switch (and I don't know what exec they talked to, but Beats threads through the HTC kernel, not sure how they think it will just magically be always-on) and loses the FM radio.

Do. Not. Want.

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Anandtech confirms - like the HTC One Developer Edition - this is the ATT version, so no AWS WCDMA for T-Mobile users.

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Right.

According to Phandroid, this is ATT and T-Mobile only, but does support LTE for both of those -

Google officially unveils Nexus-like HTC One, coming June 26th for $599

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(recycling one of my posts from the Lounge)



So.

Compared to the HTC One standard edition - it's a loser.

Loses the IR feature, loses Zoe, loses the Beats switch (and I don't know what exec they talked to, but Beats threads through the HTC kernel, not sure how they think it will just magically be always-on) and loses the FM radio.

Do. Not. Want.

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AnandTech | HTC One with Nexus Experience Announced
Losing all the above features is a deff no go for me! Going to try my luck with the S4 Google varient.
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No I/R Blaster/ZOE/FM Radio.Oh well,sounded good for about an hour.

Now this on the other hand,could be quite interesting if all the specs pan out:

The HTC Phablet - TheUnlockr
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Nothing proprietary is ever going to be in these Google editions.

HTC and samsung aren't going to give their code to the other side to use
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HTC and samsung aren't going to give their code to the other side to use
Agreed!

IMO the GS4 is just going to be an all around better phone because of the things that will be left out of the ONE.

My number #1 reason for going with the S4 will be the camera, there is no way to compare the Samsung's 13 megapixel shooter against the ONE's stripped down 4 megapixel shooter...No way, no how! And just the lacking of the ZOE feature is enough to turn me away.

Yes we all know the Hardware is top notch on the ONE, especially when compared to the S4. But I'll make due with the fact that the screen is really nice on the S4, the addition of an SD card slot for my pics, nice and lite form factor, and of course the kick ass camera. Combine that with stock android and you pretty much have a top of the line nexus.

Sadly to me the Google version of the ONE is just going to be a severely stripped down version of itself.
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Agreed!

IMO the GS4 is just going to be an all around better phone because of the things that will be left out of the ONE.

My number #1 reason for going with the S4 will be the camera, there is no way to compare the Samsung's 13 megapixel shooter against the ONE's stripped down 4 megapixel shooter...No way, no how! And just the lacking of the ZOE feature is enough to turn me away.

Yes we all know the Hardware is top notch on the ONE, especially when compared to the S4. But I'll make due with the fact that the screen is really nice on the S4, the addition of an SD card slot for my pics, nice and lite form factor, and of course the kick ass camera. Combine that with stock android and you pretty much have a top of the line nexus.

Sadly to me the Google version of the ONE is just going to be a severely stripped down version of itself.
You cant just look at MP and say the S4s camera is automatically better. Unfortunately, it isn't nearly that simple.

As far as straight up brand preference...I have the last generation flagships from both manufacturers (EVO lte and s3). I prefer htc's build quality, camera, and screen (really don't like AMOLED). Throw in the boom sound speakers and the one has me drooling.

I personally wouldn't be buy either of them right now, though. I'd wait for the next iteration of android (4.3) and see if they make some leaps and bounds in camera software like they said they'd work on. Couple that with a new nexus and the moto x in the next few months and its worth the wait to see all the cards laid out
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You cant just look at MP and say the S4s camera is automatically better. Unfortunately, it isn't nearly that simple.

As far as straight up brand preference...I have the last generation flagships from both manufacturers (EVO lte and s3). I prefer htc's build quality, camera, and screen (really don't like AMOLED). Throw in the boom sound speakers and the one has me drooling.

I personally wouldn't be buy either of them right now, though. I'd wait for the next iteration of android (4.3) and see if they make some leaps and bounds in camera software like they said they'd work on. Couple that with a new nexus and the moto x in the next few months and its worth the wait to see all the cards laid out
I'm not just looking at Megapixels, I'm looking at Samsungs shooter vs The HTC ONE's shooter without any software tweaks.

I happen to really like Samsungs cameras on they're phones. My Fascinate had a very good camera, as did my Droid Charge, S2 & S3.

I don't get sucked into the megapixel wars at all, however the S4's shooter to me is top of the line! IMO it's better then the ONE's camera. And to really seal the deal with this whole Google variant thing is that the ONE's camera will be without alot of the punch it was getting from Sense and HTC.

Lets save the final verdict for when they can go head to head in a few weeks though...Should be a nice throw down!
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I've been told that Google, like HTC, does not give a selection for jpeg quality (compression level).

Higher jpeg compression = better use of pictures for texting and social media = lower details and more compression artifacts (regardless of megapixels).

And higher jpeg compression has been HTC's ImageSense crime of the century.

If Google doesn't fix it, then check out https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moblynx.camerajbplus

And if you go with the SGS4 GE, same deal.

Everyone's talking about details, cropping, pixels, etc etc, but overlooking that most of what's compared between cameras isn't megapixels, it's compression.
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I've been told that Google, like HTC, does not give a selection for jpeg quality (compression level).

Higher jpeg compression = better use of pictures for texting and social media = lower details and more compression artifacts (regardless of megapixels).

And higher jpeg compression has been HTC's ImageSense crime of the century.

If Google doesn't fix it, then check out https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moblynx.camerajbplus

And if you go with the SGS4 GE, same deal.

Everyone's talking about details, cropping, pixels, etc etc, but overlooking that most of what's compared between cameras isn't megapixels, it's compression.
I know you got this stuff down to a science Early!

Which Google edition Phone In your opinion will offer the better Shooter?
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I know you got this stuff down to a science Early!

Which Google edition Phone In your opinion will offer the better Shooter?
Mighty tough call.

This cat is offering to try that same camera app on both phones (ought not matter that they're not the GE versions) and report back -

iPhone 4S to HTC One (or SGS4)

Here's a recycle of a bit of one of my earlier posts comparing some numbers on the two cameras, under hide tags so those not interested can skip over -




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Wow, these products are released tomorrow (and in the UK I hope) and I see absolutely nothing about them anywhere!

There is no marketing, no Play Store "Coming Soon" banners (unless you have them in the US?) and very little activity in the forums.

I will still look to getting an HTC One NE but help, support and chat looks like it will be limited.
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AFAIK these are US only.
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That's the rumour, still haven't actually seen or heard it officially.
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The offering was said to be initially in the US, implying that it's not going to remain exclusive.

http://blog.htc.com/2013/05/htc-one-google-nexus-experience/?gb25

As for a quiet forum, we'll see - this could be the lull before the storm.

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I wonder when Google plans to post it, so they can just take my money
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Me too !!! I would love a less fragile nexus(ish) device with a little more built in memory.
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According to what I have read, it will only be available in the US at first. There was no mention of exclusivity, so it's quite possible that it will come to the UK/EU later on, but I don't think they are going to just up and change specs for the UK folk. You can expect the same thing as we are getting in the US. I'm just hoping that we're able to select between black/silver.
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Is it on Google Play in the US yet?
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If it's anything like when the Nexus 4 got released, start getting in line between 1100 and 1130 and refresh like crazy and expect server issues.

Edit: Should add that those times I listed would be EST. So if you're in a different time zone, adjust accordingly.
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Just noticed that you can't get to devices from the app. C'mon Google lol.

https://play.google.com/store/devices?feature=corpus_selector
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Just noticed that you can't get to devices from the app. C'mon Google lol.

https://play.google.com/store/devices?feature=corpus_selector
I've always found that puzzling, but I'm guessing it's to prevent odd situations where a kid orders a device on their parents device without their knowledge?
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If it's anything like when the Nexus 4 got released, start getting in line between 1100 and 1130 and refresh like crazy and expect server issues.

Edit: Should add that those times I listed would be EST. So if you're in a different time zone, adjust accordingly.
Wowza. I wasn't part of the Nexus 4 fiasco. I'm actually going back to GSM for the first time in over 7 years.
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Good lord I hope that doesn't happen again. The Nexus 7 launch wasn't pretty, but the Nexus 4 launch was an abomination on all scales. Hopefully they don't have there server issues that they had in the past. Supply might be an issue because both companies aren't making a lot of stock, but I'm not expecting a mass exodus of purchases at 600/650 full retail plus tax and shipping.

Are you going AT&T or T-Mobile? I ask because I could have sworn I saw that the One GE didn't support T-Mobile's 1700 HSPA frequency. Then again, you being in NY/LI probably means you have LTE already.
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Good lord I hope that doesn't happen again. The Nexus 7 launch wasn't pretty, but the Nexus 4 launch was an abomination on all scales. Hopefully they don't have there server issues that they had in the past. Supply might be an issue because both companies aren't making a lot of stock, but I'm not expecting a mass exodus of purchases at 600/650 full retail plus tax and shipping.

Are you going AT&T or T-Mobile? I ask because I could have sworn I saw that the One GE didn't support T-Mobile's 1700 HSPA frequency. Then again, you being in NY/LI probably means you have LTE already.
T-Mobile, but yep, we already do have T-Mobile LTE here and it's relatively quick too.

EDIT: I'm actually having a difficult time deciding which GE device I want.
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T-Mobile, but yep, we already do have T-Mobile LTE here and it's relatively quick too.

EDIT: I'm actually having a difficult time deciding which GE device I want.
I don't know how much traveling you do, but if you're going to use T-Mobile, I'd look at their frequencies once Google posts them and see which one, if any, support the 1700MHz HSPA. There's nothing worse than traveling and being stuck on EDGE.
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I don't know how much traveling you do, but if you're going to use T-Mobile, I'd look at their frequencies once Google posts them and see which one, if any, support the 1700MHz HSPA. There's nothing worse than traveling and being stuck on EDGE.
Mostly out of country traveling. Not much inner country jetsetting.
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Mostly out of country traveling. Not much inner country jetsetting.
Europe mostly uses 900 and 1800 if memory serves me correctly. HTC lists the One GE with the following compatibility:

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Europe mostly uses 900 and 1800 if memory serves me correctly.
For GSM (2G) it's 900/1800 only.

3G is mostly 2100, though IIRC there's some 900 in some countries.
LTE is 2600, 1800 or 900, depending on country/network, but roll-out is pretty variable.

So in Europe you'll get 2G and 3G, but not 4G (which I here use in the sense it's used here, ie LTE - HSPA is 3G for this purpose).

If it is ever released in the EU I expect they'll use the European model with the GE ROM - would make no sense to do anything else.
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For GSM (2G) it's 900/1800 only.

3G is mostly 2100, though IIRC there's some 900 in some countries.
LTE is 2600, 1800 or 900, depending on country/network, but roll-out is pretty variable.

So in Europe you'll get 2G and 3G, but not 4G (which I here use in the sense it's used here, ie LTE - HSPA is 3G for this purpose).

If it is ever released in the EU I expect they'll use the European model with the GE ROM - would make no sense to do anything else.
Thanks for the Euro lesson. I haven't been to Europe since I got a smartphone, so I'm use to all the frequencies commonly used on flip/texting phones.
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Google, it's 11:30 AM EST - do you know where your Google Edition devices are? Lol.
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12pm is the official time from what I've read, but that was what it was when google launched the nexus 4. Then they surprised everyone by posting 30 minutes early. Was just hoping to let some people in on that knowledge.
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I'm so pissed with VZW. I pay through the nose and they N E V E R get the hot phones any more? What the hell is wrong with them?
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Quite simply, they bank on the fact that you'll pay through the nose and not care about having a limited phone selection in order to have their stable and huge coverage offered by their network.
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12pm is the official time from what I've read, but that was what it was when google launched the nexus 4. Then they surprised everyone by posting 30 minutes early. Was just hoping to let some people in on that knowledge.
Still nothing posted and it's just about 12:30 lol.

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Which judging by their number of subscribers is giving them all the proof they require to maintain that thought process (for devices).
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Still nothing posted and it's just about 12:30 lol.



Which judging by their number of subscribers is giving them all the proof they require to maintain that thought process (for devices).
Yeah, this is puzzling. Granted, I'm not the one in charge. I'm simply the messenger reporting what I find on blogs.

But regarding Verizon, being number 1 in total number of subscribers is all the proof they need. Sad, but true.
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Times are a changing.

It just takes a lot of time to happen since everyone's tied into contracts


Google fails so hard at device releases
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Well there's now a page there which tells me it's not available in my country

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=htc_one
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