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Old April 11th, 2012, 06:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Alright Guys,

Now i'm another iPhone convert so please be patient with me.
I thought that it might be useful to start a specific One X thread for the many iPhone converts to list any questions they may have.

I got the new phone on friday and am really pleased that I made the decision so far, however i will add that i think its going to take some getting used to. With that I would like to thank all the members, posters and modds here who have helped me on my new Android journey!

My first query that i cannot seem to find the answer to is when I receive a text message from anyone in my phone book, the home screen only displays the number of the sender and not the name. Is this a normal thing or can it be changed?

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Alright Guys,

Now i'm another iPhone convert so please be patient with me.
I thought that it might be useful to start a specific One X thread for the many iPhone converts to list any questions they may have.

I got the new phone on friday and am really pleased that I made the decision so far, however i will add that i think its going to take some getting used to. With that I would like to thank all the members, posters and modds here who have helped me on my new Android journey!

My first query that i cannot seem to find the answer to is when I receive a text message from anyone in my phone book, the home screen only displays the number of the sender and not the name. Is this a normal thing or can it be changed?

Thanks again.
I have just come over from having an iPhone 4S, my 3rd iPhone so this is a great idea.
I've never owned an Android phone so it's all very new to me too and I have a lot to learn.
I have solved my wi-fi issues and apart from that, have no other issues but I'm sure I will have plenty of queries in the near furture.

As for your query, names are showing up in my messages so I'm sure it's possible to have them show up. Whether you have to c'hange something in your setting's I dont know but hopefully someone else will know for sure. Are you missing not having an iphone at all??
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Not a bad idea for a thread actually, I've seen a few iPhone converts joining up over the past couple of days.

Are the numbers you refer too definitely in your phone book? Were they transfered over to your new phone from your previous SIM?

If you head to the People app, are the numbers there?
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Thanks gents, not missing my iPhone at all to be honest. Other than I knew exactly what I was doing with it, but all will come good i'm sure. Just a matter of time.

Checked the numbers again, they are all definitely in the phone and are in the People App. I did transfer them via bluetooth from my iPhone originally. When they originally pop up on the home screen they are displayed with the +44 number, even if they are saved normally.
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Thanks gents, not missing my iPhone at all to be honest. Other than I knew exactly what I was doing with it, but all will come good i'm sure. Just a matter of time.

Checked the numbers again, they are all definitely in the phone and are in the People App. I did transfer them via bluetooth from my iPhone originally. When they originally pop up on the home screen they are displayed with the +44 number, even if they are saved normally.
Not sure why they would come up with that. I just imported all my contacts from iTunes to google contacts and imported them to the phone from there. They all came through fine without +44 in front of them.
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I have some that have +44 in front, and from experience it is a pain to change and often changes back. Though never had an issue calling them on my old HTC.
It likes to link these things to facebook, so if you log into that it will sync a lot of people and give you the little pics as well as names.

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Is there a chance that you have the number(s) saved twice? Going back to old Nokia days, if a number was saved twice then the system would not know what name to display so didn't display any.

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Hey all,

I'm considering switching to this phone from a 3GS when it becomes available on AT&T. The thing is, this will not be my first attempt at switching to an Android phone. I upgraded to the GSII the week that it came out here in the states and the transition did not go so well. The main issue was with sending and receiving text messages between the GSII and people with iPhones. Also I just wasn't having a good experience with the phone itself. Apps seemed to be crashing all the time and I never got comfortable with it. I ended up returning the phone and going back to my iPhone within the return period. Do you think I will have a better experience if I try the One X? It looks great and I've heard nothing but great things about it. But then again that's how the Galaxy S II was.

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I'm considering switching to this phone from a 3GS when it becomes available on AT&T. The thing is, this will not be my first attempt at switching to an Android phone. I upgraded to the GSII the week that it came out here in the states and the transition did not go so well. The main issue was with sending and receiving text messages between the GSII and people with iPhones. Also I just wasn't having a good experience with the phone itself. Apps seemed to be crashing all the time and I never got comfortable with it. I ended up returning the phone and going back to my iPhone within the return period. Do you think I will have a better experience if I try the One X? It looks great and I've heard nothing but great things about it. But then again that's how the Galaxy S II was.

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Both of your issues have explanations, and one of which is solvable.
  1. The texting issue stems from iMessages refusing to believe that your new phone is not an iPhone, and so requires a removal of the sim from the android/WP7/BB/etc. device, replacement into the original iphone on your account, then sign out of imessage, then turn off the iphone and put the sim back into the new device, and lastly your friends/family with iPhones need to delete the imessage threads with you prior to the change, and send future messages as SMS not as imessages. (escaping the walled garden gets tougher all the time) This works for most people, so hoepfully it would help you as well.
  2. The apps crashing issue is a pain, but is not limited to just Android- iOS apps crash all the time as well, they just do not always tell the user with a handy-dandy popup. A lot of the little stutters/momentary freezes/ or "false launches" where an app opens then kicks you right back to the home screen are actually iOS running into the same fault/memory exceptions, iOS just moves on whereas Android notifies the user that something has happened...
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiogeron/2012/02/02/does-ios-crash-more-than-android-a-data-dive/

So to answer your question, I think you would find the HTC One X to be a far superior device to both the 3GS and the SGS II, but you will still see/have the same complaints you ran into before.
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Both of your issues have explanations, and one of which is solvable.
  1. The texting issue stems from iMessages refusing to believe that your new phone is not an iPhone, and so requires a removal of the sim from the android/WP7/BB/etc. device, replacement into the original iphone on your account, then sign out of imessage, then turn off the iphone and put the sim back into the new device, and lastly your friends/family with iPhones need to delete the imessage threads with you prior to the change, and send future messages as SMS not as imessages. (escaping the walled garden gets tougher all the time) This works for most people, so hoepfully it would help you as well.
  2. The apps crashing issue is a pain, but is not limited to just Android- iOS apps crash all the time as well, they just do not always tell the user with a handy-dandy popup. A lot of the little stutters/momentary freezes/ or "false launches" where an app opens then kicks you right back to the home screen are actually iOS running into the same fault/memory exceptions, iOS just moves on whereas Android notifies the user that something has happened...

So to answer your question, I think you would find the HTC One X to be a far superior device to both the 3GS and the SGS II, but you will still see/have the same complaints you ran into before.
Wellll here is the thing.. I hadn't even updated my iPhone to iOS 5 yet when I switched over, so I'm not sure that's the issue. Your point about the apps crashing makes sense, however I also remember the phone itself locking up quite often. I would have to restart it and at one point it even shut itself off and wouldn't respond to any buttons being pressed. I had to take the battery out and put it back in. I'm not saying other phones don't mess up from time to time. It just seemed to happen way too often within those first 30 days. I'm hoping it was just an issue with that particular phone. I really want to branch out and get away from Apple products.

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Wellll here is the thing.. I hadn't even updated my iPhone to iOS 5 yet when I switched over, so I'm not sure that's the issue. Your point about the apps crashing makes sense, however I also remember the phone itself locking up quite often. I would have to restart it and at one point it even shut itself off and wouldn't respond to any buttons being pressed. I had to take the battery out and put it back in. I'm not saying other phones don't mess up from time to time. It just seemed to happen way too often within those first 30 days. I'm hoping it was just an issue with that particular phone. I really want to branch out and get away from Apple products.

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Of course (we're all here to help- yourself included)! Samsung struggles with that sometimes, I skipped the GS II line but the original Galaxy S was like that quite often. I am seeing some scattered reports of sense crashing on the One X, but no "unexpected reboots" (battery pulls) (which we wouldn't be able to do anyways ). [For general info, apparently to force a shutdown/reboot on the One X one must simply hold down the power button for ten seconds.] At any rate, those flubs USUALLY (except the GS I ) get sorted out in the first couple of OTA's; but they are aggravating, I'll give you that...
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Wellll here is the thing.. I hadn't even updated my iPhone to iOS 5 yet when I switched over, so I'm not sure that's the issue.
It could be a separate issue, but this has been a really common one lately, so it was what was on my mind. It actually affected me, and I have never owned an iPhone! I tried the Mac OS X Mountain Lion Alpha/Beta/Whatever a couple months ago, and it has iMessaging built-in. Once I had played with it for an evening I thought that was cool but ultimately useless to me, so I let it be. Little did I know that I was not receiving texts from my iPhone-wielding sister, because her phone had linked my ML iMessage account with her contact profile for me, and thereby my number as well... It was a pain but ultimately I had to delete the iMessage stuff I had on my iMac, she had to delete her threads of texts with me, and she had to delete my contact profile from her phone, macbook, and icloud, before it would work properly. And there was/is a slew of people having this issue in a couple of other forums, so without thinking too much about it I assumed that was your issue as well.
I remember there was an issue with mms and emoticons from iphones to android devices, were your issues with mms or emoticon-toting texts?
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It could be a separate issue, but this has been a really common one lately, so it was what was on my mind. It actually affected me, and I have never owned an iPhone! I tried the Mac OS X Mountain Lion Alpha/Beta/Whatever a couple months ago, and it has iMessaging built-in. Once I had played with it for an evening I thought that was cool but ultimately useless to me, so I let it be. Little did I know that I was not receiving texts from my iPhone-wielding sister, because her phone had linked my ML iMessage account with her contact profile for me, and thereby my number as well... It was a pain but ultimately I had to delete the iMessage stuff I had on my iMac, she had to delete her threads of texts with me, and she had to delete my contact profile from her phone, macbook, and icloud, before it would work properly. And there was/is a slew of people having this issue in a couple of other forums, so without thinking too much about it I assumed that was your issue as well.
I remember there was an issue with mms and emoticons from iphones to android devices, were your issues with mms or emoticon-toting texts?
Thanks for the info. I'll make sure and take all the right steps when I upgrade! It happened with regular messages but it happened A LOT with mms. I could rarely send or receive pictures. When I did receive pictures they were in a video format for some reason. This only happened when receiving pictures from iPhones.
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Thanks for the info. I'll make sure and take all the right steps when I upgrade! It happened with regular messages but it happened A LOT with mms. I could rarely send or receive pictures. When I did receive pictures they were in a video format for some reason. This only happened when receiving pictures from iPhones.
Sure! I have this MMS issue with my sister as well. I haven't found a good fix for it yet, but I know it happens when she tries to send more than one image in the same message, or tries to send audio with the picture
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I have just come over from having an iPhone 4S, my 3rd iPhone so this is a great idea.
I've never owned an Android phone so it's all very new to me too and I have a lot to learn.
I have solved my wi-fi issues and apart from that, have no other issues but I'm sure I will have plenty of queries in the near furture.
Hey mate, I'm having issues with my WiFi not working after unlocking the phone, was it something similar you were having?
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hi
i was actullay about to start a thread on this lol and saw urs.

anyways.
here are my converting experiences so far to share, hopefully more to add as we go on and may help others.

(free) itune sync
so far i havent come across any good free solution that will let you sync with itune to an adequate level.. >.<. maybe some of the paid app can do but that'll be later.

MUSIC sync

the generic music sync (HTC SYNC) is actually ok as it let you sync your itune playlist. music quality is fine and the interface is pleasant.
Of course, if you cares about your music then you'll feel like some elements are missing. preliminary things for me that were important such as matching song & album art & rating (stars) sync are either mismatching or not available.

initially i resorted to other (free) music players and apps and the closest thing was Double Twist, but its still buggy and requires installation of pc program itself.

So in the end i went back to generic music player, but instead of using sync i just drag my music files to my storage/music folder manually as HTC sync wont make a different in this case for my needs.

at the moment i m still researching solutions for this and will update again later.

fyi, the following are the list of the apps that i tried, so you may think twice before you install them:

-doubletwist
-winamp
-mymusicon
-tuneagent/notpod
-astro
-cube
-mixzing (good for video stuff tho)
-poweramp (best alternative music player (not itune sync stuff tho), but needs pay version for more functions)


hopefully look into:
-isyncr (PAY)
-mediasync (PAY)

or maybe ppl whos got them can give advice.
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Would just like to apologise on HTC's behalf, for not polishing the software so it's in a reasonable state for iPhone converts. lol

Give it a few months, the updates will come and everything will fall into place.
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i was actullay about to start a thread on this lol and saw urs.

anyways.
here are my converting experiences so far to share, hopefully more to add as we go on and may help others.

(free) itune sync
so far i havent come across any good free solution that will let you sync with itune to an adequate level.. &gt;.&lt;. maybe some of the paid app can do but that'll be later.

MUSIC sync

the generic music sync (HTC SYNC) is actually ok as it let you sync your itune playlist. music quality is fine and the interface is pleasant.
Of course, if you cares about your music then you'll feel like some elements are missing. preliminary things for me that were important such as matching song &amp; album art &amp; rating (stars) sync are either mismatching or not available.

initially i resorted to other (free) music players and apps and the closest thing was Double Twist, but its still buggy and requires installation of pc program itself.

So in the end i went back to generic music player, but instead of using sync i just drag my music files to my storage/music folder manually as HTC sync wont make a different in this case for my needs.

at the moment i m still researching solutions for this and will update again later.

fyi, the following are the list of the apps that i tried, so you may think twice before you install them:

-doubletwist
-winamp
-mymusicon
-tuneagent/notpod
-astro
-cube
-mixzing (good for video stuff tho)
-poweramp (best alternative music player (not itune sync stuff tho), but needs pay version for more functions)


hopefully look into:
-isyncr (PAY)
-mediasync (PAY)

or maybe ppl whos got them can give advice.
have you tried downloading google music, the icon is a pair of headphones, and then on your computer downloading google media manager? they can upload most of your itunes library into the clouds and then sync it to the device, and it works great except some of the d r m locked content. Especially early on the drm content was encoded using apple copyrighted code, and so google or no other programs touch that. The only solution that I know of that works 100 percent of the time is to burn the music that does not show up in google media manager onto a cd and then reading that cd back into your library, then upload it.

Hey dude I just glanced at my laptop and it's called google music uploader, so I'm not sure if the name change or if I just had a confused.

P s sorry if this is a little bit wonky I'm using the voice to text function.
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That would explain why I couldn't find that or Play Movies in the Play store.
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Ah! sorry about that, in the app it doesn't show poster's location like in a browser... and I forgot it is US only...

Years ago some were having success migrating from iTunes with an PC application called "Media Monkey," if it is still around it might be worth a look. I used to use Double Twist, but it was never good at the DRM content stuff...
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Hi, I also come from iphone 4, i wanted to ask a question when i receive a text message on my iphone my screen wakes up but on the one x all i get is the text message sound and the screen does not wake up? I manually have to wake the screen to see who its from? please help if theres a option somewhere? thanks
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That would explain why I couldn't find that or Play Movies in the Play store.
Music is not available in the UK but Movies are

You can actually get Music working in the UK too so you can upload your own tracks but, you can't buy any from the Play Store. I've been using it a few months now and it is brilliant, I can access all of my music from anywhere, as long as there is a signal of course! but, I just make my most popular tracks available offline so I've always got something to listen too even in no signal areas.

I know a lot of people put Google music down a lot for some reason but, from everything I've used in the past this has got to be the biggest step up so far.
I despise iTunes as it just doesn't work that well (never has for me anyway) but the tracks I did download from iTunes a long time ago, I just de-drm'd them so the tracks could be used anywhere. This is one good thing about google music, the tracks you buy off the store (when it's available!) are DRM free.
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Hi, I also come from iphone 4, i wanted to ask a question when i receive a text message on my iphone my screen wakes up but on the one x all i get is the text message sound and the screen does not wake up? I manually have to wake the screen to see who its from? please help if theres a option somewhere? thanks
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Thats just awesome!. thanks mate i dont understand why they dont have this as default.

Also i noticed that there is no pinch to zoom in or out in mail app or gmail app? please help on this?
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fyi, the following are the list of the apps that i tried, so you may think twice before you install them:

-doubletwist
-winamp
-mymusicon
-tuneagent/notpod
-astro
-cube
-mixzing (good for video stuff tho)
-poweramp (best alternative music player (not itune sync stuff tho), but needs pay version for more functions)


hopefully look into:
-isyncr (PAY)
-mediasync (PAY)

or maybe ppl whos got them can give advice.
I've been using isyncr for about a year and I think it is great. It won't sync any DRM protected content, but it does a great job with non-DRM music. I loaded the WIFI app add-on and my music syncs with my PC while I'm asleep. I can recommend isyncr as a good solution and for me the convenience more than offsets the cost. Note that isyncr does require a program be loaded on your PC, but it is quite efficient and only uses resources when it needs to.
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Evening All,

In terms of the e-mail app, when I receive an e-mail and open to read it. The text is massive is there anyway to shrink this so it fits on the screen. Pinching the screen doesn't work and i've looked in the settings but can't spot anything.

Any assistance would be appreciated
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Hi all,

I have also just moved over from an iPhone 3GS to an HTC One X and so far am enjoying android and how easy it is to personalize it with the stock apps and free apps without having to 'jailbreak' like I did with the iPhone!

I have one question about the stock email app, on my iPhone I had my work Exchange email setup which would indicate the number of new emails in a sub folder of the inbox, unfortunately the android email app does not do this, does anyone know if there is another app that does show you subfolders that have a new email in it?

Apart from that all is good so far, and the iPhone went straight on eBay.
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Welcome to AF dawkinsmj, glad you're happy to have made the jump!

You can try K9-Mail, that's a pretty popular, feature laden alternative.
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Re: mediamonkey

Yea I tried mediamonkey already but it doesn't sync properly as well.
-You have to set it phone to USB for it to recongnise.
-A lot of the song/album art that I had stored on the song itself showed up incorrectly just like others I tried.
-once u sync with mediamonkey the HTC sync resets
-its a shame coz I always wanted to use mediamonkey on my iPhone my iPad now my android... And it all failed :'(
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Just want to include this info here for previous or current iphone/ipad users.

IPHONE/IPAD wall CHARGERS plug WORKS with the micro usb cable.

so far by my research on the forums etc, it seems that although some other wall plug chargers may not work all the time, but if you own a iphone/ipad, then the wall plug works with the micro usb cable to charge your HTC ONE X, and should not dmg your battery in anyway.

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Got my new HTC one X yesterday...

So far performance is average compared to my iphone.... This thing seems buggy as hell...

Some apps like Stocks... The bottom of screen flickers while it is open...

But I got this phone in the knowledge that I would need to get used to it... And am prepared to give Android a chance... Will see how I go...
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What other issues are you having Nazzy? We might be able to help with some fixes.
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The thing peeving me.off the.most atm.:.

Several times now... I pick up my phone and the ring is stuck at the bottom of the screen...

It responds to my touch but it won't move up the screen to unlock...

I have too restart...
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When surfing the web..

When you resize the page.... It pauses and then jumps across..

The jumps are highly annoying and ruins the experience.... Not too mention slows me down...
Like when you resize then click on a link then because of the lag the page jumps to a different part of the page... And now its sending you to a different link from the one you chose...
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So....

There is no denying the brilliance of the screen on the HTC one X...

However... The iPhone is smoother IMO and a better experience in terms of usability...

If I was apple... Creating something like the htc one x as iPhone 5 would totally rule!!

I'll have to have a good look around this forum... To learn more about the attraction of android...

It is very evident that HTC has Scoped the development of the HTC one x right back from the moment when you very first open the box....

The phone prompts you through the whole setup process including importing contact files... Which is something every new phone owner has to deal with... I liked this very much...

Enuff from me tonight...
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The ring thing is interesting, it's not a problem I've heard before.

Have you checked to see if there are any system updates? Settings -> About -> Software Updates
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The ring thing is interesting, it's not a problem I've heard before.

Have you checked to see if there are any system updates? Settings -> About -> Software Updates
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I checked just now... And there are no updates...

I also note that this where I can send feedback to HTC... This should prove to be quite helpful...

Have you tried opening the stock icon by yahoo finance... When the tool bar starts scrolling in the top right hand corner....the bottom of the screen starts shaking and jittering.....

I phones keyboard operates way more effectively and efficiently then this...
Grab an iPhone try out your typing accuracy and speed... Then repeat in android....

I also note that I can feel the phone getting quite hot around the camera lense as I type this....
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I'm wondering if you've got a faulty handset, mine doesn't perform as yours does at all.

As a last resort, have you tried a factory reset?
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yes i totally agree about the keyboard sensitivity and accuracy where iphone seems to be better at imo as well.

Has anyone had the same feel? maybe there have been tweaks or settings to make our android device as effective? anyone know?
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yes i totally agree about the keyboard sensitivity and accuracy where iphone seems to be better at imo as well.

Has anyone had the same feel? maybe there have been tweaks or settings to make our android device as effective? anyone know?
Yep its a usabiliy thing...

If you compare them side by side the iPhone keyboard has smaller keys leaving a gaps between all of the keys.... I would suggest that this greatly adds to typing accuracy...
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I'm wondering if you've got a faulty handset, mine doesn't perform as yours does at all.

As a last resort, have you tried a factory reset?
Cheers mate...

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Re the keyboatrd, you get alternatives: Go Keyboard and the Go Keyboard iPhone theme would probably bring the kb closer to what you're used to.
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Re the keyboatrd, you get alternatives: Go Keyboard and the Go Keyboard iPhone theme would probably bring the kb closer to what you're used to.
Wow... Ok will try this...

Why don't they put this type of keyboard as standard if it is so readily available? It is odd that for such a fundamental aspect... The phone is not developed with a premium keyboard?
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The one great thing about Android is that it's open enough to let you choose.

Don't like the keyboard? Download another one. Don't like the look - get a new theme.

Don't like the email client? Download another one.

Don't like the browser? Download another one.

Don't like the calendar? Download another one.

Don't like the quality of the text-to-speech? Download another TTS engine (e.g. SVOX).

And so on.

That's all before you look at all the widgets you can get to convey information in a range of ways and styles. Many are free, and most are as affordable as anything from the Apple App Store. You even get to try the app out for 15 minutes to check it works, or else get a full refund.

You can even get replacement camera apps, although so far I've not found a way to get handsets with dedicated camera keys to load a different app.
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yea i just tried the go keyboard today and its definitely better than the stock one.
Someone also recommended 'swiftkey' keyboard so i might give that a try in few days.
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Wow... Ok will try this...

Why don't they put this type of keyboard as standard if it is so readily available? It is odd that for such a fundamental aspect...
The reasons are manifold but I think some of the key aspects surrounding this are:
  • Fear of lawsuit for too direct of similarities (which is bunk, but Apple WILL try it)
  • not everyone likes the iPhone keyboard layout (has smaller keys)
  • Development = time = $ to HTC, they are building a device within an operational cost budget, and to load several keyboards (or KB themes) into the ROM for the device simply raises the cost- and is unnecessary because those options are available via the play store if anyone should want them.

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Here again, "premium" can be a matter of perception. Sense has had one of the "best" keyboards on Android for a while (again, this is subjective observation), and I am sure they haven't spent much development on it since it's initial acclaim/success. But to do so would kind of miss the point of the modern smartphone ecosystem, manufacturers just have to maintain and keep their system-level apps (like the keyboard) relevant, and if people want better, better is readily available...
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yea i just tried the go keyboard today and its definitely better than the stock one.
Someone also recommended 'swiftkey' keyboard so i might give that a try in few days.
cheers.
Yeah I like both Swiftkey and "Swype" (if available still), they take getting used to but work miles better than any stock keyboard.

Don't forget you have voice actions and voice-to-text as well. I think I actually use that more than anything (makes me feel important, like I have a secretary to take dictation or something - I should sign all my texts "dictated, not read")
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The one great thing about Android is that it's open enough to let you choose.

Don't like the keyboard? Download another one. Don't like the look - get a new theme.

Don't like the email client? Download another one.

Don't like the browser? Download another one.

Don't like the calendar? Download another one.

Don't like the quality of the text-to-speech? Download another TTS engine (e.g. SVOX).

And so on.

That's all before you look at all the widgets you can get to convey information in a range of ways and styles. Many are free, and most are as affordable as anything from the Apple App Store. You even get to try the app out for 15 minutes to check it works, or else get a full refund.

You can even get replacement camera apps, although so far I've not found a way to get handsets with dedicated camera keys to load a different app.
Agree, this is the great thing about the mobile device world we live in/are about to live in. It is true for other devices as well, but is really the easiest and most advanced with Android. I had a general social commentary to this effect typed up in my response to Nazzy, but I didn't want him/her to feel like I was lecturing at them, so I'll throw it here as it is the same line of thought:

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Here is my perspective on this, beginning with the iPhone and continuing with Android and will extend to all "smart" mobile devices- Gone are the days when the manufacturers have to do anything beyond putting out competitive hardware, working firm/software, and flashy marketing. Think about PC's/Mac's, you buy a computer, and it has some stuff pre-loaded, but that pre-loaded stuff might not (probably won't, actually) do what you want and need it to do; so you turn to the online and brick-and-mortar ecosystem for finding the software (and hardware- think specialty keyboards and mice, etc.) to accomplish your ends. For a long time phones/PDAs/Mobile Devices had a lack of uniformity and so a lack of a reliable ecosystem for doing the same- if a device didn't do what you needed out of the box, you returned it for one that did, didn't buy it, or jumped through hoops (or learned to develop) to make/get what you wanted out of it (Windows mobile and Palm might be exceptions to this, but you had to actively seek the enhancements). And so we had these expectations for mobile devices, separate from our conditioned expectations of computers, to be fully-functional right away. Does anyone remember how miserable the first iPhone was until the app store launched? How about the early days of the G1, before the Android Market had more than ~50 apps? This actually pre-dates Android and iOS both (for some of my fellow math class nerds- Texas Instruments really started this in the late nineties; you could use their calculators as they were, do most of your math long-hand, and use some of their specialty programs they wrote, or they encouraged people to write their own programs and share them on forums on the internet. Windows mobile and Palm also did similarly (but they weren't really sponsored by/encouraged by the manufacturers and they still continued to try to include everything they thought you needed). In this case, HTC was developed a keyboard that they think is what people want and need, and for most people that works; but HTC can also quickly scan the market and see literally at least a thousand of keyboard apps and themes available, many for free, so why be inefficient and waste resources duplicating what is already available? And I don't really see this evolution as a bad thing; personally, I want HTC to spend resources on streamlining Sense, and developing drivers and firmware for the latest and greatest hardware, as I personally use Swiftkey or Swype, or even voice-to-text instead of the stock keyboards from any manufacturer.
Phones and tablets really are slowly replacing PC's/Mac's both in terms of functionality and marketing ecosystem. But we are still right on the cusp of this paradigm shift, and still have a lot of users with the "this works fine" non-innovative settling mentality (and Apple has really kind of hurt the transition to this user-customized world), bucking against the manufacturers trying to keep costs/prices down. This will normalize before too long, just like the PC market (remember when MS Office became the standard for everything, yet wasn't included in the price you paid for PC's), when we as consumers condition ourselves to find and apply what we want (like we do now with cars and computers and houses, etc.), not simply buy it and discard it.
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Brilliant stuff guys... Your perspectives are eye opening to say the least...

Please feel free to adress me directly... I'm more then happy to engage in constructive discussion...

My intent is to learn here... My iphone provided me with 2 awesome years of problem free service... IMO they set the bar very high...

I'm not looking for an iPhone key board per say.... I'm looking for the trouble free Smooth and consistent operation I got... This keyboard sucks...

I'm prepared to put the time in to see where android can take me...
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