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Old March 18th, 2013, 07:07 AM   #151 (permalink)
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Great post. In all honesty, I haven't made up my mind between this and the SGS4 yet but here's my thoughts on your list and i'll add anything else I can think of at the bottom. I've never used Sense before as I have never even played with an HTC much less owned one. I've always had iPhones, Samsung and Sony phones in the past.

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Stand up to use- Yes we have all heard about the fantastic build quality of the one and it's aluminum body. However I will leave my final verdict up to myself after some use. What I expect is the phone to just handle some minor wear and tear while being housed in a TPU case. My iphone 5 scratches if you breath on it wrong, and the chamfered edges scratch extremely easy, hopefully HTC's one will do better.
I always case my phones, including my iPhone 5 and SGS2 but it would be great to have this thing without a case as it is so beautiful. Still, i'll probably go for a TPU case like you though.

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Battery use- I'm always near power wherever I am, but I must admit it's very annoying to hear that beeping sound that your phone is almost dead only 5 or so hours into a charge...Especially with light use, ugh drives me nuts. Hopefully HTC has worked some magic with the one and I can get 12-15hrs on a single charge.
My job means that I can be away from a power point for protracted periods of time, so I really hope the battery on this device is sublime. 18 hours on a single charge with low/moderate use would be ideal for me. I easily get that with my iPhone so I hope this isn't a pipe dream. So I guess my wish for this is also a battery with a long life. If I am up at 4am and not in bed again to midnight (which happens quite a lot), I would much prefer it if my phone wasn't dead on its feet before I am.

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Useful camera- Yup I happen to actually use the camera on my phone, and I'm looking forward to actually taking some nice clear crisp shots with my one. I'm not looking to be able to to blow pics up to a poster size image and put them above my fireplace. But I would like to be able to take some nice shots without any camera UI lag and be able to view them on my phone and have them look clear and crisp.
I'd rather have a camera on the phone that can take 8" x 10" crisp shots in good light for those occasions when I don't have my DSLR with me. I've been all over these camera quality/comparison threads recently to see what's what and i'll continue to do so. I think I may be out of luck on this but it isn't a deal breaker if I am though.

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UI lag be a thing of the past- I do not root my phones, or use launchers either, I'm a stock guy and like to pretty much use my phone how it comes out of the box. I must admit I was a little worried about using sense again. However after watching some reviews and seeing blink feed in action, I'm pretty excited and looking forward to using sense again and taking advantage of some of the neat tricks it brings to android. But one thing that does worry me is UI lag, and the fear of HTC's sense overlay slowing the phone down. Hopefully those 2GB of ram and the processor will work well and lag will not rear it's ugly face.
By all accounts from the videos i've seen, there doesn't appear to be any UI lag at all on the One. Interestingly, it would appear that someone else has spotted some lag in the S4 UI in a couple of videos but I can't remember if the thread was on here or Android Central.

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Loud and clear call quality- Something that irritates me is when PHONE manufacturers forget that these devices are in fact PHONES and have to endure the task of making phone calls. It's extremely annoying to have an awesome looking device that has really low call volume, or is just cursed with not having good call quality. Hopefully this won't be an issue with the one.
I've never had a phone with bad call quality yet. I guess I have been lucky. Still, I wholeheartedly agree with you that this is a high priority.

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And lastly, but certainly not least...A good radio inside this beauty! Dropping data and a call signal in areas that have a strong signal is something I will not tollerate. My Galaxy nexus was just terrible, and I would just cringe watching that signal bounce all over the place, up and down, up and down...All while someone with the same carrier but a different phone would have full bars of LTE...Hopefully there's strong radios inside the one and it hold's onto those at&t LTE signals.
And again, like call quality, this is a huge priority. What's the point in having the latest and greatest if the radio means you can't get a signal?

Now, I do like to root my phones and the recent controversy regarding certain apps being loaded into the preload partition rather than the data partition and those apps being permanently deleted upon rooting is a bit of a concern to me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191572 I hope this is something that HTC will look into and fix but somehow I very much doubt it as it appears that many manufacturers want to stop people from rooting their phones. I do think that one of the many extraordinarily clever devs will find a way round this issue at some point soon though as it also transpires that once rooted, the phone will no longer be able to accept any form of official OTA update.

Screen quality. I don't want to see any ghosting or tearing on screen at all. I will use the screen for playing film edits and rushes so I absolutely need the highest quality screen I can possibly get and I think the HTC fits that bill, with maybe the S4 running behind slightly (my opinion of course, I could be and very often am, wrong).

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Battery use- I'm always near power wherever I am, but I must admit it's very annoying to hear that beeping sound that your phone is almost dead only 5 or so hours into a charge...Especially with light use, ugh drives me nuts. Hopefully HTC has worked some magic with the one and I can get 12-15hrs on a single charge.
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My job means that I can be away from a power point for protracted periods of time, so I really hope the battery on this device is sublime. 18 hours on a single charge with low/moderate use would be ideal for me. I easily get that with my iPhone so I hope this isn't a pipe dream. So I guess my wish for this is also a battery with a long life. If I am up at 4am and not in bed again to midnight (which happens quite a lot), I would much prefer it if my phone wasn't dead on its feet before I am.
Well i'm currently approaching 37hrs on battery, still have 40% charge left, only light usage on this test, 2hrs screen on, couple of calls, some texting, some browsing, and have been switching to airplane mode while in bed to get maximum out of it that i can.
Looks like i will easily exceed 60hrs out of this test, and then tomorrow sometime when my number is ported i will start again and try a more moderate to heavy use scenario and see where that gets me.
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Well i'm currently approaching 37hrs on battery, still have 40% charge left, only light usage on this test, 2hrs screen on, couple of calls, some texting, some browsing, and have been switching to airplane mode while in bed to get maximum out of it that i can.
Looks like i will easily exceed 60hrs out of this test, and then tomorrow sometime when my number is ported i will start again and try a more moderate to heavy use scenario and see where that gets me.
Thanks mate. Is this on wifi please? I'd be interested to see how long you get with light/moderate use on a 3G network please as I spend all of my working day on 3G and away from plug sockets.
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Seriously, this sucks. For a brief moment I thought I might get this phone over the Galaxy Note 2. The HTC One has a good size screen, great camera, awesome audio, but no micro sd slot? No removable battery? What a way to ruin great potential.

This whole post is just a bit of vented frustration, so forgive me. I really hate the no sd, no removable battery design. It is basically saying, "yeah, we made this phone to be used about a couple years and then thrown in the landfill (ya know, next to the ifruit devices)".

I feel the same way about the Google Nexus. What a horrible waste, especially for a versatile system like Android. Not only is our own use impeded by non-recyclable devices, but it also negatively effects other people as well. Android as an OS has so many recyclable non-phone uses- uses that no other phone OS can match, it's crazy to think that someone would ever throw one of these away. Though, with something like the HTC One, it's like you have no choice. It's a real shame.

I have no resentment toward everyone who buys the HTC One, it's definitely great in many ways. This rant is about the long-term environmental impact of phones like this. I encourage all the people I know personally to avoid it. If you've already bought an HTC One, maybe you could let HTC know what you think about it. That you're not happy it lacks upgradeable storage through sd, and lacks replaceable battery back.

Maybe with some luck, someone will make a mesh up of the HTC One and Note 2 in the future. Now I would be more than happy to jump on board with a phone like that.
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Seriously, this sucks. For a brief moment I thought I might get this phone over the Galaxy Note 2. The HTC One has a good size screen, great camera, awesome audio, but no micro sd slot? No removable battery? What a way to ruin great potential.

This whole post is just a bit of vented frustration, so forgive me. I really hate the no sd, no removable battery design. It is basically saying, "yeah, we made this phone to be used about a couple years and then thrown in the landfill (ya know, next to the ifruit devices)".

I feel the same way about the Google Nexus. What a horrible waste, especially for a versatile system like Android. Android has so many recyclable non-phone uses- uses that no other phone OS can match, it's crazy to think that someone would ever throw one of these away. Though, with something like the HTC One, it's like you have no choice. It's a real shame.

I have no resentment toward everyone who buys the HTC One, it's definitely great in many ways, but I encourage all the people I know personally to avoid it. If you've already bought an HTC One, maybe you could let HTC know what you think about it. That you're not happy it lacks upgradeable storage through sd, and lacks replaceable battery.

Maybe with some luck, someone will make a mesh up of the HTC One and Note 2 some time in the future. Now I would be more than happy to jump on board with a phone like that.
Just because you can't pop the back off doesn't mean you can't replace the battery when/if it goes bad.

I know the evo 4g lte was just a few screws to get to the battery compartment
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Yes wifi on, as of sometime tomorrow i will turn off wifi and start again just on 3g and see where i get with it.

The main reason it is only getting light usage at the moment is because i'm off work (since Xmas) after damaging my knee dancing like an idiot
So i have use of my laptop all day.
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This whole post is just a bit of vented frustration, so forgive me.

I have no resentment toward everyone who buys the HTC One, it's definitely great in many ways, but I encourage all the people I know personally to avoid it. If you've already bought an HTC One, maybe you could let HTC know what you think about it. That you're not happy it lacks upgradeable storage through sd, and lacks replaceable battery
Forgiven, we all get like this sometimes.

However, I am personally not bothered about the lack of a removable battery or an SD card. I've never used the SD Card slot on my S2 and I only think i've removed the battery maybe twice in the 18 months i've had it, and that was very near the beginning before I realised what a PITA it was for me to do so. I now carry a power pack to charge both my phones instead.

It's a bit glib of you to say that because you don't like the fact it doesn't have an SD card slot or a removable battery that you want others to avoid it though. We all have different requirements from a phone.

I haven't bought one yet but I am leaning heavily towards it instead of the S4. If and when I do purchase an HTC One, I will certainly tell HTC what I think of the phone. I'd like to think that it will be a glowing report without mentioning either of the issues above.
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Removable battery isn't a problem, i'm getting good stats out of mine at the moment so can't see it being a factor, as for replacing the battery, the One X was able to have its battery replaced by popping the screen out from the body, i would guess the One can be done in the same way.

Storage is down to personal use, 32Gb is plenty for me, few hundred tunes, 3 or 4 films and not up to half full, films will get deleted/replaced etc.
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Yes wifi on, as of sometime tomorrow i will turn off wifi and start again just on 3g and see where i get with it.

The main reason it is only getting light usage at the moment is because i'm off work (since Xmas) after damaging my knee dancing like an idiot
So i have use of my laptop all day.
Ouch, get well soon then mate.

Thanks for the info and I look forward to seeing what you come up with. I'm chomping at the bit to get my One...
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I agree with you that you're technically right about this. Just because the back doesn't pop off, that doesn't mean the battery can't be replaced. It certainly can by someone with the right tools and a bit of knowledge.

Unfortunately though, this becomes the exception, rather than the rule. As a result of things like this, a lot of perfectly good phones get tossed, when they could easily be recycled to friends and family members. Maybe I care a little too much about our environment, but to me, this is just not good for anyone. :\
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Well as for the States,,,I just received an email from HTC about some $100 rebate that they're doing to trade in your phone, and it says that the ONE has to be purchased no later then April 26th 2013, and that you have to mail in your proof of purchase and your old phone no later then May 31st 2013.

An offer like this should roll for what...30 days? If that is how they do it, we would be looking at a release on Tuesday March 26th? Hmmmm

Unless HTC and these carriers roll with the 1st week of April instead, which would have the ONE arrive after Easter, which is on Sunday March 31st?
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I'm banking on a Friday release, as per usual. It doesn't made a lot of sense (to me) to release it on a Monday. If I were a betting man, I'd say the 29th, but I would have expected to see something leaked by now.... Just hoping there's enough stock come 1 April (upgrade time!) so my wife and I don't have to wait!
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I'm banking on a Friday release, as per usual. It doesn't made a lot of sense (to me) to release it on a Monday. If I were a betting man, I'd say the 29th, but I would have expected to see something leaked by now.... Just hoping there's enough stock come 1 April (upgrade time!) so my wife and I don't have to wait!

I don't know man, no news to me is not good news. I know there's been some speculation about them being hush because of fear from Apple raining on they're parade, but who knows at this point. Maybe the camera issue is bigger then thought, maybe HTC thinks they can go head to head with the S4 and wants to mirror they're release, maybe maybe maybe! A little annoying at this point to not have a hard date to go on. This is kind of like the first EVO's release, Sprint just released it out of nowhere after a few weeks of pre sales and each store only had like 5 phones to sell...That would just be stupid IMO if that is the kind of release they do this time around with the one.
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I don't know man, no news to me is not good news. I know there's been some speculation about them being hush because of fear from Apple raining on they're parade, but who knows at this point. Maybe the camera issue is bigger then thought, maybe HTC thinks they can go head to head with the S4 and wants to mirror they're release, maybe maybe maybe! A little annoying at this point to not have a hard date to go on. This is kind of like the first EVO's release, Sprint just released it out of nowhere after a few weeks of pre sales and each store only had like 5 phones to sell...That would just be stupid IMO if that is the kind of release they do this time around with the one.
I do agree that every day without at least a leak is rather ominous for a March release, and I've seen some (unofficial) notices state it will be April, maybe even mid-. I think Apple-gate of last year and other (camera) situations have the carriers staying safe rather than sorry, since it's truly their call. I, for one, am sticking with it, unless some REALLY bad news leaks about quality/performance. Don't care for Sammy, and the other offerings don't excite me at all.
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I do agree that every day without at least a leak is rather ominous for a March release, and I've seen some (unofficial) notices state it will be April, maybe even mid-. I think Apple-gate of last year and other (camera) situations have the carriers staying safe rather than sorry, since it's truly their call. I, for one, am sticking with it, unless some REALLY bad news leaks about quality/performance. Don't care for Sammy, and the other offerings don't excite me at all.
Same here man...This will most likely be my next phone unless some really bad news come out about some sort of issues with the device, or for some reason it catches some gint delays till late May/June, if that happens I will just keep on trucking with my iphone 5 & nexus 4, and wait for the nexus 5 or Motorola X/NXT phone
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To me, the black one just looks nicer. However, although I'm not bothered about fingerprints, I would worry about the black chipping off. I am very careful with my phone, but you never know...
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If you have a strong data signal most of a typical day,you'll probably have little to nothing to worry about.

NOTHING sucks the life out of a phone quicker than a weak signal.I've found this to be true,as certain as the sun will rise tomorrow.Until I finally bit the bullet & got an ISP @ home,other than my cellular service,nothing taxed my battery more,not even close.

There isn't a phone out there that will survive on a single charge for a full day if it is constantly looking for a signal,or,dropping/connecting constantly.

If LTE is your concern,I'd sit back & wait for some user experiences from our members here (who have LTE) to start rolling in before taking the plunge,but,I'm speculating that the battery won't take a huge hit from using LTE.

I think I can speak for some members here in that we wish we had that (LTE) to worry about.
I have LTE on Sprint here in Charlotte with pretty good coverage using the Evo LTE. Granted I haven't spent an entire day in LTE coverage but I have gone in and out for hours at a time during the day. The battery life change is noticeable but I didn't find it to be too bad. If you are using it heavily it will drain the battery quick but just normal every day usage seemed to not have a huge impact on the battery.
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If you have a strong data signal most of a typical day,you'll probably have little to nothing to worry about.

NOTHING sucks the life out of a phone quicker than a weak signal.I've found this to be true,as certain as the sun will rise tomorrow.Until I finally bit the bullet & got an ISP @ home,other than my cellular service,nothing taxed my battery more,not even close.

There isn't a phone out there that will survive on a single charge for a full day if it is constantly looking for a signal,or,dropping/connecting constantly.

If LTE is your concern,I'd sit back & wait for some user experiences from our members here (who have LTE) to start rolling in before taking the plunge,but,I'm speculating that the battery won't take a huge hit from using LTE.

I think I can speak for some members here in that we wish we had that ([COLOR="Red"]LTE[/COLOR]) to worry about.

I've got quite the history of past phones! With and without LTE...I agree on the signal being one issue, however I usually don't see that issue posing a huge problem for me as I am usually in areas that have really strong data signals. Unless of course it ends up being a phone like the Galaxy nexus which just had a terribly weak radio inside and suffered with that problem on the LTE variant.

My Droid Charge which also was a Samsung phone had unbelievable battery life for an LTE phone a few years back. That's just one that comes to mind not giving issues with signals or battery life. Next would be the original note which was an at&t LTE variant that gave me zero issues. But the two that stick out as a real battery junkies, both HTC devices... The One X and HTC Thunderbolt...Ughhh, those were two LTE phones that were battery rapists. Of course TB gets a small pass as it was the 1st LTE device like ever...I'm just hoping that a lot of things have changed for HTC and they're batteries.

Just the other day I went 19hrs on my nexus 4 and that's with some pretty healthy use. Granted its not an LTE device but an HSPA+ network device...either way I would be more then happy with anywhere from 12-15 on the ONE....I just won't stand for anything in that 5hr bracket ever again...No way would I go back to the HTC Thunderbolt days...

Hopefully the ONE is a winner in this dept.
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With good coverage in your area,I'd say you'll be OK w/battery. Quite a few phones there in such a relatively short time frame, Sean., which is actually nice for us here, as you can share those experiences & give us something to compare to in what to expect from our phones, be it this, or, other ANDROID handsets

I thought my having 3 different phones (soon to be 4) in less than 2yrs was a lot.
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With good coverage in your area,I'd say you'll be OK w/battery. Quite a few phones there in such a relatively short time frame, Sean., which is actually nice for us here, as you can share those experiences & give us something to compare to in what to expect from our phones, be it this, or, other ANDROID handsets

I thought my having 3 different phones (soon to be 4) in less than 2yrs was a lot.
Heck my wife has had more than that in less than 2 years because I keep switching carriers, hehe. She hates me!!

I have always been bad with switching phones, last year in particular was real bad. I know I have had at least 20 different phones in the last two years on 3 different carriers. Verizon twice, lol
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With good coverage in your area,I'd say you'll be OK w/battery. Quite a few phones there in such a relatively short time frame, Sean., which is actually nice for us here, as you can share those experiences & give us something to compare to in what to expect from our phones, be it this, or, other ANDROID handsets

I thought my having 3 different phones (soon to be 4) in less than 2yrs was a lot.
Yea man...I'm a phone whore...lol
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I pre ordered with phones 4 u. Received an email that my one had been posted Thursday evening the 14th . Phone arrived Friday morning.
Phew not just me then. I was starting to wonder if I was going to be sent the right phone. I pre-ordered a One from EE in the UK on 8th March. I phoned them yesterday to see when it was going to arrive, expecting them to say something like 2nd April (after Easter weekend). They said it's arriving today (21st).
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Phew not just me then. I was starting to wonder if I was going to be sent the right phone. I pre-ordered a One from EE in the UK on 8th March. I phoned them yesterday to see when it was going to arrive, expecting them to say something like 2nd April (after Easter weekend). They said it's arriving today (21st).

Were all so very happy for u...umm Jealous!!! Lol....
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order mine from Handtec last night, its saying on the product page it will be shipped on the 25th (stock depending) so here's to hoping nothing changed on that front, will mean I get to play with it over Easter to my hearts content.
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I ordered mine the other day from Hantec too - cheapest place I coiuld find it - BUT, they say the delivery is week commencing 25th....
Dont get me wrong, if it turns up on the 26th, I`ll be very happy, but with the long bank holiday weekend, I`m not planning to have it until after Easter.
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I ordered mine the other day from Hantec too - cheapest place I coiuld find it - BUT, they say the delivery is week commencing 25th....
Dont get me wrong, if it turns up on the 26th, I`ll be very happy, but with the long bank holiday weekend, I`m not planning to have it until after Easter.
Ohhhhhhh.

THATS what w/c means...couldn't work it out for the life of me...

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International handsets, no problem. Don't yet know about S-Off.

The existence of the Developer One does suggest that at least some US carrier-supplied sets might be harder - otherwise why bother if you can just go to HTCDev and unlock it anyway, unless it's a publicity stunt? That's just an inference on my part though, not knowledge. Hopefully we'll know soon.
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International handsets, no problem. Don't yet know about S-Off.

The existence of the Developer One does suggest that at least some US carrier-supplied sets might be harder - otherwise why bother if you can just go to HTCDev and unlock it anyway, unless it's a publicity stunt? That's just an inference on my part though, not knowledge. Hopefully we'll know soon.
When the One XL hit on ATT in the US last year, they had HTC restrict that device from being able to use HTCdev to unlock at first.

No idea, this could be a publicity thing, but never put any level of shenanigans past any American cell carrier.
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First, were the rumors.... and we were like . Then the announcement and we were like . Then rumors of the delay , much speculation , worry , and doubt and we were like But, "soon" we'll be like , , and

My point, you ask? Some folks (especially on another forum) seem to be getting stressed over the release of this PHONE (as awesome as it is), when there's so much MORE to be worried about than this THING. So I gotta try to keep things !

Don't kill the messenger (see the above post )

It may be April after all...
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And the Dev One has an ATT set of frequency bands IIRC?

I know enough about US carriers that I'd never put any games past them
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No problem for me,especially if the trade-in allowance for my current phone doesn't tank (Currently $109 w/SPRINT,$350 w/BEST BUY).

Otherwise,I'll just wait until I'm upgrade-eligible in June 2013 & keep/sell my current phone outside of a trade-in program.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/22/htc-one-officially-hits-germany-uk-and-taiwan-next-week/#continued

They are saying by at least the end of April for North America but who knows. So many different reports.

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They are saying by at least the end of April for North America but who knows. So many different reports.

Yup...on Phandroid right now that the one won't hit North America until the end of April, that means May with the way these clowns handle they're business... That also means this will launch right on the heels of the S4...lmaooo! HTC is going to get absolutely creamed by Samsung. Ehhh whatever, I'll keep rolling with my nexus 4 and iPhone 5 for now, and see what Apple and Motorola have in store for the Summer. Sorry HTC I was willing to use my at&t upgrade in March, as in early March, but seeing how you guys can't handle a release just brings me back to reality that software updates are going to come in the same form the release of the phone did...With long and annoying DELAYS! No wonder they're failing as a company.
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Yep just got my "personal" email from Mr Mackenzie, saying it will be out by end of April... Not good news, but not particularly horrible.
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Just got the same email...end of April...doesn't really matter to me because I'm on Verizon...
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Yup...on Phandroid right now that the one won't hit North America until the end of April, that means May with the way these clowns handle they're business... That also means this will launch right on the heels of the S4...lmaooo! HTC is going to get absolutely creamed by Samsung. Ehhh whatever, I'll keep rolling with my nexus 4 and iPhone 5 for now, and see what Apple and Motorola have in store for the Summer. Sorry HTC I was willing to use my at&t upgrade in March, as in early March, but seeing how you guys can't handle a release just brings me back to reality that software updates are going to come in the same form the release of the phone did...With long and annoying DELAYS! No wonder they're failing as a company.

The Android updates seem to take much longer than Apple however it really isn't that much longer. When Apple announces an upgrade it is generally ready for the public and has been undergoing carrier testing for several months behind the scenes. The Google process is different in several ways. Firstly when Google announces an upgrade it is generally code that gets released to the manufacturers who then have to test it with their hardware, write drivers, etc. That generally takes a 6-8 weeks. The real Slow down comes from the carrier testing which can take up to 6 months. The android process definitely takes longer because of so many different types of hardware but not much more than Apple. As far as waiting goes, is 30 more days really that big of a deal? For me the answer is no, I understand for others that answer is yes. HTC's real problem stems from it's lack of marketing which is where Samsung excels (and spends).

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Same here on the email but I am on Sprint.
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this will be the death blow to HTC IF it launches anywhere near thr GS4 release date. Samsung says they have 4 times the amount of pre reg compared to the GS3 launch. If they do not launch in March, it will take a miracle for HTC to survive this. And I'm an HTC fan and owner.
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this will be the death blow to HTC IF it launches anywhere near thr GS4 release date. Samsung says they have 4 times the amount of pre reg compared to the GS3 launch. If they do not launch in March, it will take a miracle for HTC to survive this. And I'm an HTC fan and owner.
It's happening... HTC already confirmed that its launching the phone in the U.S. at the end of April! And that's the same time the S4 is launching... Lol, so ridiculous... You can't help but say, wow HTC...no wonder your failing as a company, because you make realllllly stupid decisions.
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Laugh now, but if HTC does go under, it's going to be a detriment to the industry. HTC, business practices aside, is an innovator for the market, pushing other manufacturers to be at the top of their game. Though I don't care for Sammy's products, and Apple irritates me with their business practice, they are good for the industry with their innovation. I understand brand loyalty, but I've never understood why some just seem to enjoy seeing others fail.
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Laugh now, but if HTC does go under, it's going to be a detriment to the industry. HTC, business practices aside, is an innovator for the market, pushing other manufacturers to be at the top of their game. Though I don't care for Sammy's products, and Apple irritates me with their business practice, they are good for the industry with their innovation. I understand brand loyalty, but I've never understood why some just seem to enjoy seeing others fail.

Its like RIM...errrr Blackberry now! HTC used to put out a ton of handsets a year, just a ridiculous amount, and there was always issues with something, crappy batteries, problems with screens, a year wait for updates, and just really terrible supply shortages .... No matter what, there was always issues. And time after time reviewers, customers, etc...would just cry out loud for HTC to really do things correctly ...And like RIM they just refused to listen to anyone at all from within the industry and they're customer base.

Now almost a few years later after they did so much good with the G series, the EVO-which introduced us to big Android smart phones, the awesome incredible, I mean they were on fire...Fast forward now and after so many mistakes they still can't get it right. The one looks like an awesome phone, it really does, I love it...But here we go again, issues with the launch, issues with a camera nobody else in the industry is using, issues with the build out of the aluminum body, and then the tune starts with if they can't do this right, imagine how long that thing is going to be on 4.1? In 3 months we'll here 5.0 will never see the light of day on this phone because of some nonsense with sense or whatever.

I'm sorry man I was pulling for HTC, and even ordered my Diztronic One case a few days ago, which arrived yesterday. But now when you look at things involving HTC on a broad spectrum and how they handle they're business you wonder why you can sift through these forums and hear a lot of people in a very venomous way say they will never buy an HTC phone again. Some things never change man, and those don't change will find themselves like Palm and web OS, finished and forgotten.
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If the speculation about HTC demands in Asia are correct, they aren't going anywhere. I'm patiently (or not so patiently) waiting for the Verizon release...
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I'm sorry man I was pulling for HTC, and even ordered my Diztronic One case a few days ago, which arrived yesterday. But now when you look at things involving HTC on a broad spectrum and how they handle they're business you wonder why you can sift through these forums and hear a lot of people in a very venomous way say they will never buy an HTC phone again. Some things never change man, and those don't change will find themselves like Palm and web OS, finished and forgotten.
Yeah. Heard worse about LG about a year ago. Now they make the Nexus and we can't live without them.

Honestly, you're repeating internet memes. I respect your opinion, but you're back to extrapolating a lot over this delay this time without using the whole HTC history.

BTW, I notice that HTC suggested by the end of April, indicating perhaps sooner with some plus or minus wiggle room.

Yet the blogosphere is agog with end of April, May, HTC will miss out to Samsung.

Let's review - if the One released this afternoon, the SGS4 will still outsell it. If they put old SGS2s in SGS4 boxes, they'll outsell it. When the SGS4 releases, just like last year with the SGS3 and the One X, the blogosphere is going to stop saying that the HTC is the best and will contend from that point forward that the Sammy is the best.

That's just the way it is.

The glowing pre-review by Anand didn't make it through the first page of comments without bed-wetting of tidal proportions over the fantasticalness of the omgz pwnies SUPER DUPER AMOLED screen! And removable battery! And sd card! Omgz I'm gonna faint.

Etc etc etc.

As for the delay, and the actual arrival date in the US, we'll see.
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Todays web surfing points to a release on verizon, maybe a month or two after it ships here in the states. I am holding on to this, and ignoring the nay sayers

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Yeah. Heard worse about LG about a year ago. Now they make the Nexus and we can't live without them.

Honestly, you're repeating internet memes. I respect your opinion, but you're back to extrapolating a lot over this delay this time without using the whole HTC history.

BTW, I notice that HTC suggested by the end of April, indicating perhaps sooner with some plus or minus wiggle room.

Yet the blogosphere is agog with end of April, May, HTC will miss out to Samsung.

Let's review - if the One released this afternoon, the SGS4 will still outsell it. If they put old SGS2s in SGS4 boxes, they'll outsell it. When the SGS4 releases, just like last year with the SGS3 and the One X, the blogosphere is going to stop saying that the HTC is the best and will contend from that point forward that the Sammy is the best.

That's just the way it is.

The glowing pre-review by Anand didn't make it through the first page of comments without bed-wetting of tidal proportions over the fantasticalness of the omgz pwnies SUPER DUPER AMOLED screen! And removable battery! And sd card! Omgz I'm gonna faint.

Etc etc etc.

As for the delay, and the actual arrival date in the US, we'll see.


I never said I couldn't live without LG...I think the nexus 4 is an ok phone, but it's no world beater...And it's lack of LTE is another conversation. LG makes everything from washing machines to smart phones...They'll be ok even if they bomb on phone sales. As far as HTC though, come on Early...they are going deeper to the back of the bus by releasing on the heels of the S4...You know it, I know it, everybody knows it that releasing along side such a monster as big as the S4 is just plain foolish. If the one released a month before the S4 thats at least a running start to allow the actual android heads as well as consumers to get this phone in they're hands and talk it up quite a bit. Instead of good press, they're getting just plain bad press which will turn into no press when the S4 arrives, and like you said...It would out sell the One no matter what, however before the S4 is better then the same time as the S4 IMO.


And honestly how do we know this phone is coming in April? I'd lean more on May with HTC's track record. See Early I do tend to roll with the neagtive side of things, as you know...But I have good cause with HTC, and that's because I lived through the Original Incredibles launch delay and then the Screen shortages with the original Amoled screen before it was even renamed the Droid Incredible, and then the EVO screen shortages directly after the INC, which transcended into a whole slew of phone issues besides screen shortages.

So when I see such a good opportunity for a company that even with they're short comings I still like...I can't help to think out loud and wonder...What the hell are they thinking???...lol

Oh well man...It is what it is, when it arrives I'll give it a test run, I'm not going towards the S4 either way...At that point I'll weigh my options on whats on the horizon in phone land
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I didn't mean to imply that you did say that.

The blogosphere said that about the LG with reposts from every corner.

That was my analogy, just to give pause.
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I found this video (on YouTube) of this guy giving his reviews on the HTC One.






What do you think? An iOS phan-boy, Android Advocate, definitely not a Sense guy, or just an honest dork.

Regardless of what he is, he definitely isn't being totally fair on what this phone is all about. I guess opinions are what they are, thank God they aren't known as facts.
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I didn't mean to imply that you did say that.

The blogosphere said that about the LG with reposts from every corner.

That was my analogy, just to give pause.
Oh well...as we wait brother

Anyway...Did you order your case yet for the One? My TPU Smoke Dizronic case arrived to make the wait worse...lmaooo
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Yeah. Is this from the article where they had the pre-release model? Others were on about how bright the screen is, and that's backed up by measurements.

Anyway, the guy gets paid for his opinions.

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Oh well...as we wait brother

Anyway...Did you order your case yet for the One? My TPU Smoke Dizronic case arrived to make the wait worse...lmaooo
Nope. Don't know what I'm doing. Getting the One, not decided on when.

One of the clear cases caught my fancy, but my wife had one on a RAZR that ended up looking cheap.

I usually end up with the phone first and can't wait for the case to arrive.
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