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Old May 18th, 2013, 08:57 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Also a bit lost... I understand W-CDMA/GSM/LTE but are you referring to the Network app EM referred to??

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No, im not sure what that app is about.
There are a few LTE changer apps and a lot of them just open this menu.
There was a similar app used for the HTC Rezound because Verizon had it disabled to keep people from flipping it into GSM and sticking a foreign sim in

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I've been recording videos of my experiments.. as opposed to my creations and repairs so being destructive is a new thing...

Anyhow i'm about to record a short vid on how to do it for all my One peeps but instead of waiting for the video tour you can do this...

DISCLAIMER:
Mucking about in the radio menu can cause BAD PROBLEMS.
Do NOT do this if you don't feel up to it.
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Again, you do this at your own risk... mucking about with anything else in that menu can cause you bad, bad problems!
Yes, I can be a little slow on the uptake...

The "Network" app that EM mentioned looks to be a shortcut to parts of the phone info (testing) menu.

Looks like the selecting WCDMA preferred may do the trick. Of note, my AT&T phone was set default to "GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto"... I hope that was what it was anyway!

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Yes, I can be a little slow on the uptake...

The "Network" app that EM mentioned looks to be a shortcut to parts of the phone info (testing) menu.

Looks like the selecting WCDMA preferred may do the trick. Of note, my AT&T phone was set default to "GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto"... I hope that was what it was anyway!

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Yes, that is the default setting as you get it out of the box.
Like I said in an earlier post the preference is listed backwards... it goes from right to left... so it likes LTE first, and so forth.
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Yes, that is the default setting as you get it out of the box.
Like I said in an earlier post the preference is listed backwards... it goes from right to left... so it likes LTE first, and so forth.
I am nearly convinced that the 4G/LTE coverage gaps are the reason I am seeing streaming apps choke.

I will shift colors tomorrow to WCDMA preferred tomorrow and take a road test to check. I am just surprised this isn't a selectable option (on ATT phones anyway) or that there isn't a simple widget that would allow you to toggle the setting(s).

Many thanks again for the info!


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As the app says - Just a shortcut to the RadioInfo from com.android.settings.

It's been identical to dialing the 4636 and making the right menu selection on the last four HTC models I've had.

I presume that if this is persistent by using home to get out of the tool, then it must be re-applied after reboot, yeah?
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Mine has persisted across a reboot as I recall but I will reboot and see what it does.

EDIT:
You guys are correct... it's not persisting across a reboot and reverts to GSM/WCDMA/LTE Auto.
I rebooted 3 times to be sure.
Now we know.


I also made a video describing the procedure.
(Only making vids because someone told me that I have a lot to offer in the realm of electronics work.. but I am retired from that )

It's here if interested...

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Both Tunein and the iHeartRadio apps will drop out when on cellular. I have to assume it is due to signal strength but my question is with 4G/LTE service.
To jump back to the crux of why we are discussing turning off LTE...
Since we know it does not persist across a reboot now at least you can
either use the dialer to get into the test menu or the app Early mentioned.

My experience with LTE on Verizon and AT&T have been completely different animals and naturally with different handsets.
AT&T for me has done handoffs to and from LTE seamlessly and I stream while driving to and from the office.
Verizon handoffs to CDMA/eHRPD are -HORRIBLE-
If I am at the office late I will also stream and there are parts of the building that I will drop LTE and go straight to HSPA without issue and my stream never drops.

The antenna and frontend in this phone is phenomenal but that won't help a bad handoff.
What I would suggest is that you try to note where your bad handoffs are physically located. If it's on an interstate note mile markers and exits.
Call AT&T, tell them the locations and they generally get that fixed.

Handoffs are actually set at the sites themselves, and it's possible that it just is not set. That does happen.
If that's the case they usually fix that fairly quickly.
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And for some, turning off LTE in a good 3G area when you don't need high data bandwidth can be a power saver.
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And for some, turning off LTE in a good 3G area when you don't need high data bandwidth can be a power saver.
I actually had that in mind with this phone... to kill LTE when I did not need it.
I have done some testing with that but the results are subjective because I just did not do it properly... I only have one phone so I can't turn LTE off and let it sit there for a day... you get it...

When I did turn LTE off for most of a day I gained like 30 extra minutes.
That's not really much.... but again my usage patterns for that day surely affected that.

I had a Thunderbolt... if you remember that phone it was a battery killer.
4-5 hours tops on that thing... it was really bad.
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And for some, turning off LTE in a good 3G area when you don't need high data bandwidth can be a power saver.
Thanks - no 4g on Vodafone so I turned it off.
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Question for you on your non-US version...
Does it stay that way when you reboot?
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Ok, odd observation based on my own ignorance.

It looks as if the issue I am experiencing is related to the handoff from LTE.

The reason I say odd is because I guess I mis-understand what exactly WCDMA is within the AT&T network. I was under the impression that it is used for 3G data but I forced my handset to WCDMA only and it identifies if is on "4G" (not LTE). Does AT&T use the WCDMA modulation mode for 4G as well?

Am I operating from a false premise in that WCDMA = 3G?

With that, the data for streaming was more stable/reliable when I forced the handset to WCDMA only or selected WCDMA preferred, leading me to believe the issue is isolated to LTE service (or the lack thereof). My crude observations also suggest that LTE is VERY sensitive to shifts in signal level and becomes unstable quickly.

Please advise...


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Does it stay that way when you reboot?
Me? Yes - it stays that way.
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Ok, odd observation based on my own ignorance.

It looks as if the issue I am experiencing is related to the handoff from LTE.

The reason I say odd is because I guess I mis-understand what exactly WCDMA is within the AT&T network. I was under the impression that it is used for 3G data but I forced my handset to WCDMA only and it identifies if is on "4G" (not LTE). Does AT&T use the WCDMA modulation mode for 4G as well?

Am I operating from a false premise in that WCDMA = 3G?
WCDMA is 3G yes...
AT&T and T-Mobile call that "4G" which is why you will see people refer to it as faux G, fake 4G, and so forth.

IMHO, it's not 4G.
This debate can go on forever but what you were accustomed to as 3G on older devices is what the WCDMA setting changes it to.
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I can report the HTC One works well with the AT&T Microcell (which only supports 3g) that is in my home. Currently AT&T doesn't offer VoLTE, and voice is only carried over 3g or less.

Initially I was worried the Microcell might wrestle away the 4G LTE connection I'm able to get in my home, but this isn't the case. The phone (network?) is smart enough to connect to both the 4G macro-network for data & the 3G Microcell I have at the house for voice calls.






This lockscreen pic shows the One connected to the Microcell- and represented by the bars. The 4G icon shows it's also connected to the 4G LTE network- plus the wifi network I have at the house. Inbound and outbound voice calls are routed to the microcell. Data uses wifi, or LTE if I turn wifi off.

AT&T's Microcell used to be an expensive piece of crap. But with the firmware updates a year ago, it's now just expensive. It actually does work pretty well at this point, and so far is playing nicely with the HTC One. At $199 though, plus the extra fee to not eat your minutes, it's a giant rip-off. I was able to purchase mine 2+ years ago when they first became available in my area @ $99.
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This lockscreen pic shows the One connected to the Microcell- and represented by the bars. The 4G icon shows it's also connected to the 4G LTE network- plus the wifi network I have at the house. Inbound and outbound voice calls are routed to the microcell. Data uses wifi, or LTE if I turn wifi off.
Not trying to burst your bubble... but that's not LTE.
That's HSPA.
AT&T and T-Mobile tell a white lie to users with that "4G" icon.
That's why they have a separate "4G LTE" icon.

You can blame the carriers for bludgeoning the ITU to death to let them redefine "4G" and further confuse users.
So now we have "faux G" (4G) and 4G LTE.

There are no microcells that I know of released for public consumption that do LTE.
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LTE is just as faux G as the others.

LTE Advanced and WiMax 2, both deployed nowhere last I checked, made the actual 4G spec, everything else was negotiated.

They made that spec a moving target and dragged it out to almost no end.
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LTE is just as faux G as the others.

LTE Advanced and WiMax 2, both deployed nowhere last I checked, made the actual 4G spec, everything else was negotiated.
Agreed.
The russians already beat everyone to LTE-A
But then again, there are no handsets that can talk LTE-A so I really wonder why they dropped the nodes other than they get to say "we had it first"
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Not trying to burst your bubble... but that's not LTE.
That's HSPA.
AT&T and T-Mobile tell a white lie to users with that "4G" icon.....
What?!? Those bastards!!! Thanks for pointing that out LS- that got by me (and i'm in the industry so it shouldn't have).
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Can't let them get you. They get you with coverage maps... faux tech...
I used to work for Verizon so I know lots of dirty underhanded crap they do.
What do you do?
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Can't let them get you. They get you with coverage maps... faux tech...
I used to work for Verizon so I know lots of dirty underhanded crap they do.
What do you do?
I'm a dev for a company called TIP Solutions and deal with carriers every day. We keep trying, but can't get any traction with US carriers, but we are going gangbusters with foreign carriers.
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Hi guys,

Maybe you can help me finding the right solution to a GPS "issue" on my newly bought HTC One.
Comparing the One's GPS performance against my current phone One X, I discovered that HTC One has some inconsistencies. For example, there are some places where the One X manages to lock to satellites while the One can't or at least, does it very hard (15-20 sec vs 80 sec), especially near buildings or downtown.
In open spaces, both phones perform in the same manner, with a lock time around 5-10 sec. What is interesting is that the One manages to find more satellites than the One X, around 30%.

Can you tell me whether this (sometime) slow performance is indeed a reason to ask for a product change or is it normal and in range with the One GPS performance?

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There was an update to GOOGLE SERVICES lately which messed up location services & a fix/update is in the works.

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Re number of satellites, does the One X have Glonass as well as GPS? I know the One (and One X+) has, but can't remember for the One X. If not might that be a factor in satellite numbers?
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I can't say that I have noticed any issues with the GPS.
Google Maps puts me in a tree in my front yard while another device puts me in the other tree.
Perhaps they are trying to send me a message using GPS....

I haven't had any issues with it myself.
I would say that it's about the same as my other devices have been.
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Has anyone tried a bluetooth speaker while on wifi
the bluetooth connection is total crap till you turn wifi off
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I paired mine up w/an external speaker & have no issues:

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I've read up on BLUETOOTH issues,as I'm experiencing some of my own w/regard to call quality & came across something that might help:

Turn off WI-FI & BLUETOOTH,then turn on BLUETOOTH 1st & then WI-FI.

Some have reported that this works w/some BLUETOOTH issues,but,it does nothing to resolve mine.It's worth a try.

The only other suggestion I have is turn off BEATS & see if that helps.
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Can you guys define how the connection is crap?
Is it a range issue.. quality issue?

One of the things I have wondered is how they are getting all of the various radios on the 2 antennas without killing each others frontends.
Must be some good low/high/bandpass filters on those frontends
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In my BLUETOOTH issues,the person I'm talking to on the other end of a phone call says it's over-amplified/distorted.
I hear the same on my end of the call as well.
All other BLUETOOTH uses are fine,just call quality.
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The signal strength is really low while wifi is in use.
I have one speaker that starts to break up just 8 to 10 inches from the phone. And the other one must be within 8 - 10 feet to work. These same 2 speakers work up to 30 feet with an iPhone or an LG phone I use as an iPod.
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Currently I am using the lg optimus g, which in my eyes is a great device. My question is, how does the One hold up on sprint network? I live in the NYC area.y optimus is pretty good at holding a signal and all and I was wondering from real users what you think of this phone on sprint? I would love to switch carriers but my job pays for my service, so I have to deal with it if I don't want another bill. Any input would be appreciated.
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Ymmv depending on location, but here in southern California I am getting excellent service. Even in these electronic heavy studios (Gower, Paramount, Bronson, Studio City) I'm getting 4G access inside. For me that's fantastic.

Outside I'm getting solid 3g service and nice 4G service in those areas where 4G is running rampant.

Very pleased overall
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I had a very frustrated problem. I got a brand new HTC ONE from Sprint about two weeks ago. I live in a neighborhood with very strong LTE coverage, official launched area. I used an app to show the signal strength. If I restart my phone or toggle the flight mode, my phone will show 4G icon. However, whenever I tried to use LTE (such as run the speed test), the network will be switched back to EHRPD/Rev.A. I already updated my profile, PRL, and software many times. I began to realize that I may have a phone issue. Any suggestions?
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I had a very frustrated problem. I got a brand new HTC ONE from Sprint about two weeks ago. I live in a neighborhood with very strong LTE coverage, official launched area. I used an app to show the signal strength. If I restart my phone or toggle the flight mode, my phone will show 4G icon. However, whenever I tried to use LTE (such as run the speed test), the network will be switched back to EHRPD/Rev.A. I already updated my profile, PRL, and software many times. I began to realize that I may have a phone issue. Any suggestions?
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WELCOME TO ANDROID FORUMS BONDSEVEN!

How does the phone behave when not using the SPEEDTEST app?
Is this the only time that you have issues?

Also,if you using a 3rd party task killer,get rid of it,unless you're absolutely certain it's set-up properly to not interfere w/connectivity.Even then,until your 4G-LTE issues are resolved,I'd ditch it.

A call to SPRINT CUSTOMER CARE is in order as well.They'll not only be able to troubleshoot your phone,but,also determine if any network issues are affecting your coverage area.

Please keep us posted on your progress & once again,WELCOME TO ONEDERLAND!
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I had a very frustrated problem. I got a brand new HTC ONE from Sprint about two weeks ago. I live in a neighborhood with very strong LTE coverage, official launched area. I used an app to show the signal strength. If I restart my phone or toggle the flight mode, my phone will show 4G icon. However, whenever I tried to use LTE (such as run the speed test), the network will be switched back to EHRPD/Rev.A. I already updated my profile, PRL, and software many times. I began to realize that I may have a phone issue. Any suggestions?
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When connected to 4G, open the Phone Dialer and type in ##DEBUG# and then Enter LTE Engineering. Once in there take a look at RSRP signal strength and take note. Anything under -100 should get at least a Speedtest done. What area are you in? Sprint has been launching markets at around 50% done so even though your area has LTE officially the build out may not be complete. Could also be an issue of tower overload because of inadequate backhaul. Now when your RSRP strength gets to about -115 or so data will be mostly unusable and at around -120 you will switch back to 3G.
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I don't know why the AT&T variant would be different but anything under -110 tends to be very good. Obviously -70 is best but...
At -120 the AT&T variants jump onto HSPA apparently like the Sprint variant does.
I was able to get mine down to -118 and I was still pulling 10 megabits a second down and 5 up with ~60ms latency.

To me that's acceptable... but I have seen people on blogs and forums apply some kind of crazy logic to signal levels... and the fact that Android still has some lingering issues displaying that correctly to a user.
Also note that some apps on the market don't read the LTE signal levels correctly on the HTC One.
They will always display -85 RSRP forever....

In reality unless there is some other issue such as interference a -120 should also get a speedtest done.
It won't be fast but you should not have an issue.
LTE is good to -120 in real world, -140 or so in a lab.
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I don't know why the AT&T variant would be different but anything under -110 tends to be very good. Obviously -70 is best but...
At -120 the AT&T variants jump onto HSPA apparently like the Sprint variant does.
I was able to get mine down to -118 and I was still pulling 10 megabits a second down and 5 up with ~60ms latency.

To me that's acceptable... but I have seen people on blogs and forums apply some kind of crazy logic to signal levels... and the fact that Android still has some lingering issues displaying that correctly to a user.
Also note that some apps on the market don't read the LTE signal levels correctly on the HTC One.
They will always display -85 RSRP forever....

In reality unless there is some other issue such as interference a -120 should also get a speedtest done.
It won't be fast but you should not have an issue.
LTE is good to -120 in real world, -140 or so in a lab.
Sprint LTE (in my experience) is wholly unusable at that -120 level and degrades rapidly around -110. Penetration on Sprint LTE is not nearly as good so unless you are far away with line of site of the tower (i.e. no building or obstructions) , those levels will make data awful.
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The only variable not in this equation is the RSSI at the BTS.
I guess it's probable that while the phone hears the BTS just fine, the BTS doesn't hear the phone.. the whole 700 vs 1900 issue.
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I've had my HTC One for just over a week and have no problem in giving it 10/10.

The GPS reception is better than any I've had on my previous devices - it picks up the satellites within seconds of switching GPS on and locks on in under 30 seconds, and that is in my house!! The Desire S had to be outside before it would even think about looking for a satellite.

With the addition of GLONASS, the One picks up an amazing 22 to 25 satellites and locks on to 10 to 14 on a regular basis giving me a 3 to 4 metre accuracy.

I know it's early days, but up to now I really can't fault it. I've had the Desire S for two years and have always thought it to be a cracking device, but the One is AWESOME!! It does everything I need it to do, and does it well.





'Settings - Apps - All' shows :- Phone storage 10.79GB/32.00GB

which is as expected.

When looking at 'Settings - Apps - Running', mine shows :- RAM 604MB/1.5GB.

The 604MB varies as apps/tasks open/close but I expected to see 2GB as the total - any ideas??



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I sent in my HTC One black after 3 days because of this problem [see this thread: [Sprint] Anyone with a death grip reception problem?] with very bad reception. After a week i got a brand new one. Same problem. Now i will call them again. This is just sad.
Another wierd thing is when ever i make a call and from the time i press the call button, the signal goes up to full. And as soon as the call is over the signal drops down to 1 or no lines. There it stays. During the call the signal is just fine and there is no problems with the quality and sound of the call. Is it a software issue or some kind of power saving?
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LTE is just as faux G as the others.

LTE Advanced and WiMax 2, both deployed nowhere last I checked, made the actual 4G spec, everything else was negotiated.

They made that spec a moving target and dragged it out to almost no end.
Wimax2? I didn't think anyone would be willing to pursue any form of Wimax after the crappy rollout Sprint had with it. I hadn't even heard of WiMax2. I suppose this discussion doesn't really belong here, but now I will have to go do some google searches. I am curious about WiMax 2. Morbid curiosity I suppose.
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WiMax is more like WiFi whereas LTE is a GSM technology.

Had carriers gone with a good WiMax implementation we'd all have been better off imo, but that train left the station a few years ago. Pity really.

Anyway, sure surprised about what is going on with some of Sprint copies of this phone.
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WiMax is more like WiFi whereas LTE is a GSM technology.

Had carriers gone with a good WiMax implementation we'd all have been better off imo, but that train left the station a few years ago. Pity really.

Anyway, sure surprised about what is going on with some of Sprint copies of this phone.
Well, my wife and I have had our Sprint HTC Ones now for a few weeks. I can't say that we have run into any problems with the phones, either in build or any of the antennae. I get much better 3G throughput than I did on my Evo3D. I can't say whether signel strength is any better. My house is in a fairly dead spot. Just going by signal BARS, my Evo3D is about the same as my One, but based on actual data throughput, my One blows the Evo3D out of the water.

I know people are talking about a deathgrip problem, but neither myself nor my wife have had even an inkling of that problem. For the first several days, I used my phone with no case, and since then it has been in an Otterbox Defender. I didn't see any difference, and I never had a problem no matter how I held the phone.

Actually, let me rephrase that a bit. I never had any issue with 3G or 4G. For the WiFi, I do see some pretty significant swings in signal strength, but I can't seem to narrow it down to anything in particular. At first I thought it was due to how I held the phone, but the more I mess with it, it actually seems like maybe it is actually interference from somewhere else. I have watched my Wifi signal drop by more than half, while it is sitting on the table.

Overall, I couldn't be happier with this phone. To be honest, I was seriously considering dropping Sprint, even though we have been with them for somewhere around 12 or 13 years, just because we couldn't even use the internet on our phones because the speeds were so horrible. (not just on our Evo3Ds. Also on my son's E4GT, and on my wife's earlier HTC Hero). I don't know why the One gives me so much more speed with similar signal, but I do know that it finally makes having unlimited data worthwhile.
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Check out "Wifi Analyzer"

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer

Sounds a lot like you're sharing a channel with a neighbor.
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I know people are talking about a deathgrip problem, but neither myself nor my wife have had even an inkling of that problem. For the first several days, I used my phone with no case, and since then it has been in an Otterbox Defender. I didn't see any difference, and I never had a problem no matter how I held the phone.

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If you don't mind, can you tell me where you got your phone? I went to a Sprint store yesterday and the guy there did not have problem with his HTC One either.

Do you have WiFi reception problem only with the HTC One? My HTC One's WiFi performance is *much* better than my previous HTC Evo 4G.

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Sounds a lot like you're sharing a channel with a neighbor.
I use this app on my phone too. But I'd like to note the following. WiFi performance problem can be caused by other WiFi APs or non-WiFi signal sources. One should try to address WiFi AP interference first.

There are only 3 non-overlapping channels in the 2.4GHz band. They are CH1, CH6, and CH11. In other words, APs in CH2 and CH3 can interfere with CH1. APs in CH4, CH5, CH7, and CH8 can interfere with CH6. Finally, APs in CH 9 and CH10 can interfere with CH11. Try to use one of them that does not have other APs which can cause problems.

It is important to note that one would get worse interference from APs in adjacent channels than directly on top of each other. For example, if you are on CH6, an AP in CH4, CH5, CH7, or CH8 can give you worse interference than if that AP is also on CH6. This is because the MAC layer protocol can avoid mid-air collision if the two APs are on the same channel.

Lastly, one has to consider interference from non-WiFi sources as well. In a field trouble shooting project, we found that a wireless surveillance camera greatly impacted the WiFi throughput performance. We had to manually switched the channel to avoid the interference.

Hope this helps.
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I got my One at Best Buy in Wichita, KS. As far as the wi-fi, I haven't really done any troubleshooting yet. I did switch over to the 5g band on my router which seems to working well, so it could have been channel interference. I am within range of 4 other wi-fi signals, so that makes sense.
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I use this app on my phone too. But I'd like to note the following. WiFi performance problem can be caused by other WiFi APs or non-WiFi signal sources. One should try to address WiFi AP interference first.

There are only 3 non-overlapping channels in the 2.4GHz band. They are CH1, CH6, and CH11. In other words, APs in CH2 and CH3 can interfere with CH1. APs in CH4, CH5, CH7, and CH8 can interfere with CH6. Finally, APs in CH 9 and CH10 can interfere with CH11. Try to use one of them that does not have other APs which can cause problems.

It is important to note that one would get worse interference from APs in adjacent channels than directly on top of each other. For example, if you are on CH6, an AP in CH4, CH5, CH7, or CH8 can give you worse interference than if that AP is also on CH6. This is because the MAC layer protocol can avoid mid-air collision if the two APs are on the same channel.

Lastly, one has to consider interference from non-WiFi sources as well. In a field trouble shooting project, we found that a wireless surveillance camera greatly impacted the WiFi throughput performance. We had to manually switched the channel to avoid the interference.

Hope this helps.
I've consistently found slower throughput and terrible voip phone performance with directly overlapping channels, as well as lower signal strength. Collison management seems to always come at price.

In any case, get away from the neighbors.

100% agree about watching out for other radio interference.

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My old Linksys router used to get killed everytime I turned on the microwave. Actually disconnected everyone from the wi-fi no matter what channel I set the router to use.
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If i go in to settings for mobil network and change network modus from default GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto to any of the other options-only WCDMA-only GSM or GSM/WCDMA auto i instantly get full lines in antenna signal. If i dont use the LTE setting i wont get 4G speeds. Damn it this is doing my head in. Also when i use LTE and activate mobil network i get a 4G icon top of the screen, as i should, and still 0 lines in the GSM. But as soon i make a call the GSM lines go to full and the 4G change to 3G and H. As soon as the call is over it goes back to 4G ans 0 lines. Long term evolution my behind.
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Sounds like you need a new microwave!

@BerntBalchen: could it be switching bands to make the call?
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